[sword-devel] Most 3rd world children can learn a little Python but not a huge C++ Re: OLPC interest still?
jtgalyon at gmail.com
Sat Jan 19 09:47:30 MST 2008
I too will be at PyCon08, I will look you up.
avolunteer DrStovallFoundation wrote:
> If you want a project in the 3rd world
> to be a success, involve the local people from the start and at
> every phase possible instead of just handing them something.
> I have said it before, Most 3rd world children can learn Python,
> but C++ is unrealistic.
> Olpc has inspired the Asus Eee, the classmate, and many other
> imitations and innovations. When can we get a group of sword-devel
> people to be inspired with what we should have been working
> together to do a long time ago? The Bible has plenty of
> linguistics, psychology, sociology, and other educational
> materials. When can we get a team as interested in these things
> as sword-devel has been interested in searching words in commentaries,
> and dictionaries? A few suggestions have been made on this list
> for text to speech and other things which could be of great benefit
> to 3rd world children. Now that we have two versions of the sword
> available on Python, let's move on to more important things.
> Pycon.org registration is open for staff now and will be open
> for everyone soon. There will be a OLPC tutorial March 13 and
> then some talks. From March 15 p.m. until March 20 there will
> be OLPC development sprints. Last year I was told that anyone
> with decades of experience in the third world was not needed
> and that experience in team leadership was plan B. With such
> attitudes, OLPC may continue to make less impact than their
> excellent technology deserves. Perhaps the same could be said
> for many other excellent technologies.
> Anyone who is interested in technology and serving children should
> keep on showing their interest on this list. I was able to work
> with the Rapier developer one weekend in Paris. Because he knew
> a lot of things I did not know how to do and because I understood
> some things he did not, we were able to do something that neither
> one of us could have done alone. Anyone who can go to Chicago
> for pycon.org largest regional meeting in March should do so.
> Everyone else who is interested should sprint with us via eMail
> and IRC. It costs money to dispose of computers in Europe. It
> is better to send them to me in Indonesia. If people will help
> to develop the appropriate studies in Python and Scala we can
> help many children and adults. OLPC here would be great. But
> we can do a lot with other technologies as long as they are not
> dependent on C++, huge data files, and things that are not
> realistic for the undeveloping part of the 3rd world. BTW please
> Google Nias site: TheJakartaPost.com and see how much progress
> has been made among the hardest hit tsunami/earthquake victims
> after 3+ years and the largest foreign contributions ever given
> to a 3rd world country. The Jakarta Post says there is still
> traffic of children, 1.2 million children drop out of school
> each year, and the majority of the houses have not yet been
> rebuilt so many people are still living in tents. Nias, the predominatly
> Christian island is worse off than Muslim areas that got more
> aid. But I am still working in Muslim areas with people who
> live still with great trauma and little hope for the future
> although they again have a brick home.
> I will be at Pycon in Chicago. But please contact me and others
> who are interested if you really want to do something appropriate
> for 3rd world children.
> Johnny Stovall - a volunteer
> The Dr. Stovall Foundation
> --- "Zachary M. Oglesby" <zoglesby at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am still learning Python but I think this is a great idea. OLPC is
>> designed for children in developing nations and that would be a great
>> resource for people trying to spread God's word to them.
>> On Jan 14, 2008 12:38 PM, DJ Ortley <djortley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Having started at least one of those conversations, I still mildly
>>> have an interest. Especially as I've learned Python since then. :)
>>> It seemed that the conversation ended with people thinking the intent
>>> was to get sword stuck on the the laptops before they ship, which
>>> obviously isn't going to happen (and definatly weren't my original
>>> As I said, I'm still mildly interested, but I don't know how involved
>>> I can be in the short term as I have many other plates spinning (and
>>> falling down.)
>>> On Jan 14, 2008 10:02 AM, Jason Galyon <jtgalyon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> There were various conversations in the past relating to Bible related
>>>> software for the One Laptop Per Child or XO project. I would like to
>>>> start the discussion back up if anyone is interested.
>>>> At my local Python Users Group meeting (http://dfwpython.org) we had
>>>> three of the units and played around with them including messing with
>>>> the mesh networking and collaborative activities.
>>>> These are very cool, I can't say enough good about them.
>>>> While large amounts of text are out due to storage (and RAM) is there
>>>> interest in developing client or server software for and lesson
>>>> management applications?
>>>> For example, you could still have bible reading assignments (including
>>>> the follow along in the class) using either the browser or just the
>>>> normal pyGTK interface receiving its information from the class (school)
>>>> There have been some great ideas generated already however having seen
>>>> some of these, I can say that the potential for teaching the world the
>>>> Word is limitless. Combining these with general education setup
>>>> missions would be a great boon for witnessing.
>>>> Some resources:
>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Home - general website
>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers - development info
>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_with_sugar-jhbuild - development
>>>> checkout of the sugar environment
>>>> note that with sugar, you have the latest development versions available
>>>> (my preference) with sugar-jhbuild, downloadable packages for many
>>>> platforms, and vm images such as for VMWare, Parallels, and QEMU.
>>>> Download a copy and see what the potential is!
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