[sword-devel] New development on Mac

Jónatas Ferreira jonatas at gmail.com
Sat Sep 8 15:45:07 MST 2007

Hi Manfred,

I understand your thoughts on the subject. I didn't knew about all  
problems (I only knew about some of them) and I didn't want to sound  
critical about the way you and Will have been conducting the  

I agree with you that the app should have a new look&feel too. And I  
absolutely love the idea of including ability to work with all those  
kinds of modules. Count me on the boat, at least for testing. If you  
feel I can do more than that, please ask and I'll do my best.

Another thing I can possibly do is to give ideas. You mention that a  
lot of things need to be discussed, so let's start: have you thought  
about using the same name for the app? MacSword seems a good name and  
I believe there is a WinSword too. Couldn't we use the same name?  
Apple did just that with iMovie, remember? It's a new app, but the  
same name. Is the name registered in any kind by someone? I beleive  
this could make the app popularity grow rapidly. What are your  
thoughts about it?


Em 2007/09/08, às 23:02, Manfred Bergmann escreveu:

> Hi Jónatas.
> The problem with MacSword is that it is not so easy to add new  
> features and enhance the application.
> I've spend many many hours over the last one and a half years to  
> cleanup the code. Actually a lot under the hood has been done and  
> some bugs have been fixed.
> After the compiler flag -Wall has been turned on, over 500 compiler  
> warnings were across the whole code and over 300 of them have been  
> fixed. To be honest I can't continue with MacSword, it is just boring.
> I want a clean and good design and clean code, this is not possible  
> anymore with MacSword.
> The new application uses Cocoa bindings where possible and also  
> will be able to show images, maps, animations and has easier text  
> rendering. All types of books should be creatable by the user.
> I'm also thinking of a iTunes/Numbers/Pages style like GUI design  
> which is state of the art of Mac applications.
> Minimum requirement should be Mac OSX Tiger.
> Just to give you an overview of what I and maybe also the others  
> have in mind.
> Manfred
> Am 08.09.2007 um 23:15 schrieb Jónatas Ferreira:
>> Hi Manfred,
>> I'm very pleased to hear that something new is being started for  
>> the Mac. I hope you can reunite a good workgroup. I doubt I can  
>> help building the app because I'm not a programmer. But I can  
>> certainly help with testing.
>> I've used MacSword for 3 years now and I'd love to see it evolve,  
>> but I'm very concerned about it being almost dead for a while now  
>> (I mean it hasn't been evolving).
>> Yours,
>> Jónatas Ferreira
>>> De: Manfred Bergmann <bergmannmd  yahoo.de>
>>> Data: 8 de setembro de 2007 15:14:38 GMT+01:00
>>> Para: SWORD Collaboration Forum Developers' <sword- 
>>> devel  crosswire.org>
>>> Assunto: [sword-devel] New development on Mac
>>> Responder A: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword- 
>>> devel  crosswire.org>
>>> Hi.
>>> I want to starting a new frontend on the Mac platform and would  
>>> like to invite everyone who is willing to help.
>>> From UI developers to icon designers everyone is welcome to  
>>> participate.
>>> Please write to my email address if you are interested.
>>> The MacSword application has gotten quite old by the time. It  
>>> still has Jaguar support which is fine but now that Leopard is  
>>> coming, the time is right to start something new with new  
>>> features and new technologies.
>>> Some things like the Sword backend and the SearchKit search/ 
>>> indexing stuff can be taken from MacSword.
>>> The backend has been cleaned up to make it KVO kompliant.
>>> Additionally a new backend wrapper to Sword InstallMgr has been  
>>> created and is working.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Manfred
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