[sword-devel] HTML Designers / Papyri Database
Troy A. Griffitts
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Thu Sep 7 04:07:25 MST 2006
Per some of DM's wonderful suggestions, there is a new rev available
(with a smaller image for people using dialup modems (David)). :)
Thanks for all who commented:
PS. I realize the workspace links don't do anything yet.
PPS. I still don't have IE readily available, so I've probably diverged
even more from IE saneness.
Anyone with HTML/CSS artistic design perfectionism is encouraged to
submit a replacement for the sad styles and div structure.
DM Smith wrote:
> Looks good under Mac's Safari, but needs help for a crippled, one
> button mouse!
> Some comments and thoughts, realizing that much of what I mention
> might be due to the developmental nature of the prototype:
> When it first comes up the image is in blue. Clicking on "Edit"
> removed the blue. And it never came back.
> There are no zoom controls available with a 1-button mouse.
> There should be another way to do it.
> Also, should be present as an "assistive" technology for those that
> don't use a mouse for input.
> The mouse would do well to change as the mouse moves over points of
> interest and be an appropriate pointer. For example,
> [Pan] [Edit] always show the text insertion cursor. As these are
> button placeholders, it will probably change naturally.
> When the mouse is over a box it could become a location sensitive
> grow or move cursor.
> I'm not sure how the "box" is supposed to be used.
> Is it to surround each word in turn or each line or each letter?
> You might change "Button" wording to indicate the operation,
> "Previous Word", "Next Word".
> Is the ordering of the boxes important?
> If it is each line, it would be good to add "Next Line"
> When the image is zoomed such that the right edge of the current box
> is near or past the edge, adding a box "after" positions the box in
> such a way that it is not obvious what happened.
> Also, the canvas seems to be infinitely bigger than the image.
> It might be nice to ensure that part of the image is always on the
> It might be nice to border the image on the canvas.
> It might be nice to constrain the box to the image.
> My guess is that the box is to surround each word. If so, I would
> find it easier to box each line and then draw a line between each
> word. Then adding a box would be a "Line Tool" and splitting a box
> with a line would be a "Word Tool" I don't know if there would be a
> need for a "Vertical Line Tool" and a "Horizontal Line Tool" but if
> so there might be a Text orientation choice.
> If it is to be a line of letters, then I would want a "Line Tool",
> "Word Tool" and a "Letter Tool"
> There should be some assistive way to create a box without the mouse.
> (I'd rather use a keyboard exclusively if I could)
> I think it might be neat that as letters are typed for a "Word" that
> the "Word" box is automatically subdivided into equally sized
> regions, which can later be adjusted.
> It would be cool that when a box is not active that the typed text is
> visible in the box, perhaps with text autosized to the dimensions of
> the box but tunable by the user, giving an easy way to compare.
> Anyway, enough rambling.
> -- DM
> On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Been slow going still, but have updated the demo a little. It uses
>> something more interesting: P46, page 1, recto.
>> It now auto-zooms the image to the width of your browser, on load.
>> can still use the mouse-wheel to zoom as you'd like.
>> New boxes duplicate the dimensions of the last box and are initially
>> positioned to something sane based on which (before/after) link was
>> You can actually type the letter on your keyboard to perform the
>> transcription (provided you can switch to a Unicode keyboard IME--
>> in GNOME).
>> The current image is about 6 megs, so it might take a little while to
>> load the page. Something in production would probably initially
>> load a
>> lower res images until zoom level required more... but this is just a
>> concept app.
>> I think I still need to redo the design to work well in IE.
>> Anyway, have a look if you're interested.
>> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> Just added support for the [Add After] button.
>>> David, could you try adding and sizing a few region boxes, and
>>> then use
>>> your mouse wheel to zoom the image in and out? On my copy of IE, the
>>> boxes neither position themselves nor size correctly with the image.
>>> DavidTroidl at aol.com wrote:
>>>> In a message dated 8/12/2006 11:56:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> dmsmith555 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>> I loaded the page in IE-7 beta 2, it shows "Level 1
>>>> Transcription" and a
>>>> shadowed rock shape, with controls for [pan] and , and
>>>> links to
>>>> _load_ and _save_. When I use the browser's Zoom In and Zoom Out,
>>>> everything is smooth.
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