[sword-devel] Re: Kjv2006 markup

L.Allan-pbio paraclete at bibleinverse.org
Mon May 15 10:35:20 MST 2006

Also, the NET has <l /> for poetic line breaks (see Ps 23 for 

DM Smith wrote:
> On May 13, 2006, at 8:39 AM, L.Allan-pbio wrote:
>> * paragraph grouping
>> <lg> ... </lg>
>>> DM Smith wrote:
>>> The paragraph markers are represented with <milestone type=\"x-p\"
>>> marker=\"¶\"/>
>> Several comments:
>> * After doing mod2vpl on Kjv2006, a hex viewer showed these to have
>> an extra character: an 0xC2 before the ¶
> Try a unicode viewer.
>> * Which will the final Kjv2006 have? <lg> or <milestone type=\"x-p
>> \" marker=\"¶\"/>
> The latter. <lg> is a line group, and is not indicative of a
> paragraph. The 1769 KJV had each verse starting on a new line. In 
> the
> OT, Gospels and Acts, some verses began with a paragraph marker. 
> This
> milestone is meant to carry that information.
>> * Can the paragraph tag be at the end of the previous verse, rather
>> than the beginning of the verse? This is how the GBF <CM> tag and
>> the NET's "double milestone" is done (see below). LcdBible geneates
>> the RTF superscript verse number at the start of the verse, so Ps
>> 23 is rendered as:
>> 1
>> The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.2 He maketh me to lie
>> down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He
>> restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for
>> his name's sake.4 Yea,
>> and Gen 1 is rendered:
>> 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.2 And the
>> earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of
>> the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.3
>> And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.4 And God saw
>> the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the
>> darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he
>> called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. 6
>> And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters,
>> and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the
>> firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament
>> from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.8 And
>> God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning
>> were the second day. 9
>> And God said,
> This element is meant to be nothing more than a paragraph character.
> It can be taken as the beginning of a paragraph if you like. But 
> make
> sure you output the break before the verse number.
>> I can fuss with the code to rectify this, but wanted to check if
>> the markup can be done similarly to GBF <CM>. Also, the NET Bible
>> seems to use <milestone type="line" /><milestone type="line" /> (or
>> <milestone type="line" /> <milestone type="line" />) at the end of
>> the verse that completes a paragraph, rather than the start of the
>> verse that starts a paragraph. The ESV doesn't seem to have
>> paragraph markup.
> In OSIS, <p> probably would typically surround <verse> elements
>  osis2mod cannot handle this. There is a bug report on this problem.
> The paragraph begin would be "preverse" so a SWORD module cannot
> handle it either, without changes.
> Until OSIS 2.1 <lb/> was not allowed anywhere except within <lg>. 
> Now
> it is allowed anywhere. So using <milestone type="line"/> was a 
> "work
> around".
> Since blank lines are a common visual clue for paragraphs, it is not
> surprising that two line breaks are representative of a paragraph
> end. However, it is not very accurate and it does not allow for
> different styles of paragraphs (e.g. indented).
> In my opinion, SWORD needs a more robust handling of OSIS 
> paragraphs.
> It appears that <CM> is used as a break between paragraphs. If so, 
> it
> makes sense to render it as a paragraph end. If so, this is 
> different
> than <p>...</p>, which indicates both the start and the end.
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