[sword-devel] KJV2006 - 4th Beta

Sat Mar 25 14:07:38 MST 2006

Hi,
thank you for your continued work on the KJV module.

I tested beta4 in BibleTime.
I fixes BibleTime to support milestones with type x-p. The paragraph marker is 
now shown correctly in the text. Should that milestone also start a newline 
or a new paragraph or just insert the marker?

Multiple strongs for one word (e.g. created in Gen.1.1) are split by space. I 
think the old module (other modules?) use | as split marker. Is there any 
official guideline for the split marker?

The NT contains the morph prefix robinson. I ever thought this should be used 
as a module name, at least we do in BT =)
Since it's lower case (the old one was Robinson I think) this doesn't work.
What is the right handling of a morph prefix? Are there any official types 
defined (can't remember if there are some in the specs right now).

Thank you for you help and work,
Joachim

> L.Allan-pbio wrote:
> > Thanks for working on this.
> >
> > I would add a vote for providing KjvLite (with all or most of the
> > embedded tags removed.)
>
> Here you go: http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2006/kjvlite.zip (If
> it is not there, check back later)
>
> I created it by running the following xsl. I left divineName,
> transChange, notes and q.
>
> If you don't want these, it is a trivial change from match="osis:w" to
> match="osis:w|osis:q" (or what ever you don't want.)
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> <xsl:stylesheet
>   version="1.0"
>   xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"
>   xmlns:osis="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace"
>
>
>   <xsl:output method="xml" indent="no"/>
>
>   <xsl:template match="osis:w"><xsl:apply-templates /></xsl:template>
>
>   <!-- ignore markup notes -->
>   <xsl:template match=" osis:note[@type = 'x-strongsMarkup'] |
> osis:milestone[@type = 'x-strongsMarkup']"/>
>
>   <!-- Copy all remaining nodes -->
>   <xsl:template match="@*|node()">
>     <xsl:copy>
>       <xsl:apply-templates select="@*"/>
>       <xsl:apply-templates/>
>     </xsl:copy>
>   </xsl:template>
>
> </xsl:stylesheet>
>
> > LcdBible does a one-time detagging of verses with a one-pass
> > state-machine defilter, and puts the entire contents in a 4 meg buffer
> > .... and "brute-force" strstr searches are about 10x - 50x faster.
> > I've been working on Boyer-Moore-Horspool searching, which can be
> > quite a bit faster once the search word(s) are four characters or longer.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "DM Smith" <dmsmith555 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] KJV2006 - 4th Beta
> >
> >> L.Allan-pbio wrote:
> >>> DM,
> >>>
> >>> I tried out the "raw" KJV2006-Beta-4 with sword.exe rc1 ....
> >>>
> >>> drum roll, please <g>
> >>>
> >>> Well, nothing shows up. Am I providing "dummy checking" or otherwise
> >>> doing something wrong?
> >>
> >> I guess you are providing "dummy checking". (I'm the *dummy* for not
> >> actually testing this module! ;)
> >>
> >>> The KJV2006-ztext shows up ok, but not the raw vpl.
> >>>
> >>> When I try to look at nt and ot with a text editor, I'm getting a
> >>> message:
> >>> "nt" contains characters that do not exist in code page 1252 (ANSI -
> >>> Latin I). They will be converted to the system defualt character, if
> >>> you click ok."
> >>>
> >>> After clicking ok, I'm still not seeing anything.
> >>>
> >>> I looked at kjvraw.conf, and see that it is trying to use ztext:
> >>> [KJVraw]
> >>> DataPath=./modules/texts/rawtext/kjvraw/
> >>> ModDrv=zText
> >>> BlockType=BOOK
> >>> CompressType=ZIP
> >>>
> >>> I changed that to WEB settings, and it shows up ok.
> >>
> >> It was a cut and paste error in the conf. I fixed the conf and
> >> re-zipped the file. It should work now (still haven't tested it! :)
> >>
> >>> Mark 1:9 seems to be a reasonable length (was over 15000 before).
> >>>
> >>> Line 7972 and 8275 are about 3800 characters long. There are a
> >>> number of verses that are nearly 3000 characters long.
> >>
> >> I took a look at the verse at line 7972 in the raw NT module and it
> >> seems reasonable. It is just the by-product of deep, rich markup.
> >>
> >> The nature of the strong's markup for the NT portion of the KJV2003
> >> module and preserved here is that every word in the TR is represented
> >> with a <w> tag.
> >> The form of the w tag supplies the following attributes:
> >>    src="n" where n contains the position of the Greek word in the TR.
> >>    lemma="strong:G1234" where it provides the strong's number that
> >> can be looked up in Strongs.
> >>    morph="robinson:T-ASM" where it provides the morphology code that
> >> can be looked up in Robinsons
> >> If the word is translated into a phrase and some of the words in the
> >> phase are not from it then the <w> tag is split into several
> >> non-adjacent parts and each of these has extra attributes:
> >>    type="x-split"
> >>    subType="x-n" where n is the "split" number. (Not sure what it
> >> means or how it was derived, or how it is used, if at all)
> >> For Greek words that are not translated, the <w> element is fully
> >> attributed but empty. Its position in the verse may be anywhere.
> >> Additionally, in the KJV words that are in italics in the print
> >> version are represented with <transChange type="added">added
> >> words</transChange>
> >> And if the verse contains a quote from Jesus, it is marked up as well.
> >> Most verses in the NT part of the module also have elements
> >> representing an audit trail.
> >> There may be other markup.
> >>
> >> There are over 50 word from the Greek being represented in the verse.
> >> There are a lot of italic words.
> >> The verse contains a quote  of Jesus.
> >>
> >> So yes, length seems long, but it is very reasonable.
> >>
> >>> HTH,
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DM Smith" <dmsmith555 at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:22 AM
> >>> Subject: [sword-devel] KJV2006 - 4th Beta
> >>>
> >>>> YAB (yet another beta) (downloadable from the links at the bottom
> >>>> of http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2006)
> >>>>
> >>>> Again, I really value your input and the time you take to evaluate
> >>>> these betas.
> >>>
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