[sword-devel] OSIS:What is the future? Who is using it now?

DM Smith dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 7 02:31:58 MST 2006

The <pb/> element is actual <milestone type="pb"/> and the milestone has 
been there for a long time.

Chris Little wrote:
> L.Allan-pbio wrote:
>>> Please, any of you that have the time, read the manual and provide 
>>> revisions and comments. As they are actively working on OSIS 2.5, 
>>> now is a good time.
>> Based on your reading, would the upgraded osis spec be usable to 
>> prepare a module that could be used to generate a printable Sharing 
>> Bible tract, for example? Back in late 2004, I tried to use osis 2.x 
>> to prepare such a tract.
>> From then until now, I don't think the osis spec changed materially 
>> (not including the upcoming spec).
> Please see my 2/7/2006 9:20 PM response to you, where I addressed this 
> issue. If that is insufficient, please ask more explicit questions 
> about your problems. There's no reason I can see why you couldn't have 
> done what you describe as far back as OSIS 1.0.
>> The idea was to have a format from which transforms could be used to 
>> generate webpages and matching .pdf's for printing duplexed bi-fold 
>> output. The content was roughly 2/3rds Bible verses and 1/3 "prose". 
>> My impression was that if it could be done, the markup of the osis 
>> itself wouldn't be all that different from preparing a General Book 
>> ... lots of verses, but not any versification structure.
>> http://www.bibleinverse.org/sharingbibles/sb12/Sb2FrontPage.html  
>> (draft)
> Verses still go in <verse> elements. Other text (and the verse 
> containers themselves) go in <p> and <div> elements.
>> At that time, it seemed osis wasn't appropriate because that 
>> functionality wasn't available yet, at least based on the feedback I 
>> got from the osis list. Has that changed?
> What functionality?
>> The more general question would be ... is the upgraded spec 
>> appropriate for things like commentaries and "General Books" such as 
>> SAOA, SME, and/or "The Practice the Presence of God"? Does it have 
>> capabilites for "page markup" to guide a transform for printing?
> Some of these books were OSIS 1.0/1.1 example documents. There is no 
> special difficulty in encoding any of them in OSIS.
> OSIS has an element <pb> for marking page breaks (and I believe it has 
> since 1.0). I believe it is a suggestion for where to produce a 
> printed page break or an indication of where page breaks occurred in a 
> printed edition. That is as much typesetting-oriented markup as you 
> are ever likely to see in OSIS (or ThML, I believe). Typesetting 
> markup is WAY outside the proper scope of OSIS.
>> Or am I uninformed and is osis not intended for that kind of module? 
>> Was the "missing pieces" more a matter of transforms? Can GBF do a 
>> General Book? Can osis be used to convert much of the content of CCEL 
>> which uses (mostly?) ThmL?
> OSIS can be used to encode all of the content at CCEL--and it was, via 
> style sheets, at the time of OSIS 1.1 (IIRC). I don't know the current 
> status, but at that time, all ThML content was available as OSIS too.
>> If not, is such capability envisioned for osis 2.5 or subsequent 
>> versions?
> If none of that answered your questions (or if you have follow-ups), 
> feel free to ask.
> --Chris
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