From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Feb 1 14:40:08 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Levi Lim) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:40:08 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] Myanmar Bible Message-ID: <003101c3e8d1$4df13c50$20b0bbd2@Levi> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C3E89E.FF8DDD70 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002E_01C3E89E.FF8DDD70" ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C3E89E.FF8DDD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sword team, Greetings. I am introducing to you a new member of the Myanmar Bible = Translation. His name is Anthony Zee (csherine@tm.net.my) and he has = good technical know how regarding software development. He will work = alongside with me and will be in correspondence with the sword team from = time to time. Thanks.=20 Levi ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C3E89E.FF8DDD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Sword team,
 
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Thanks.
Levi
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Hello Levi Sap Nei Thang Lim,
   I'm Khant Thu Myo Aye, currently resides in London.  I'm interested in your project for Software Myanmar Bible Translation.  Could you let me know about the project, please?
   Looking forward to your reply.
 
Yours truely,
KTMAye

BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 --0-2032102187-1075643002=:24421-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 2 07:26:17 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Mentler Gyula) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 08:26:17 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes In-Reply-To: <401B6528.6040908@crosswire.org> References: <401931A7.12481.4C7EBF9@localhost> Message-ID: <401E09A9.28710.F14DE81@localhost> > It seems you have downloaded the windows zip files? You really should > download the raw .zip package to install on your ipaq. Just unzip them > to \Program Files\sword\books\ > > Yes, you should be able to use sword.conf to specify this information. > > Please remember, the app doesn't really close down on clicking the (X). > You must: > > Start|Settings|System|Memory|Running Programs|*SwRd|Stop That was the point! Thanks Gyula From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 2 09:41:41 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 02:41:41 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes In-Reply-To: <000501c3e804$27ba7470$548a5982@DRSOONGVAIO> References: <000501c3e804$27ba7470$548a5982@DRSOONGVAIO> Message-ID: <401E1B55.1030108@crosswire.org> Johan, Have you seen the OPIE handheld application? Maybe the screenshots might give you some idea on how you want to lay out the find dialog box. We splitscreen and use the remaining text display in the top half to show the results. http://www.crosswire.org/qpsword/#ss I think it works out nice, but please design it how you'd like. If you get the shell done with some sample results added, I can hook the UI up the to real search code in sword. I'm just really bad with knowing how the windows controls are designed and populated. -Troy. Johan Gorter wrote: > Troy, > > I got the same problem with the version checked out from CVS. I solved > it by passing the '\program files\sword\books\' to the constructor of > SWMgr. I do not see how it should work otherwise. The sword.conf file > should probably do this, but I do not see where this file gets loaded > anywhere. > > Hope this helps, > > Johan > > -----Original Message----- > From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org > [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 09:23 > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes > > > I have all my books stored on SD mem, so my directories look something > like: > > \SD Card\mods.d\kjv.conf > \SD Card\modules\texts\ztext\kjv\... > > Hope this helps. Basically just unzip the raw module download packages > (maintaining their directory structure) to either the root of the memory > > card, or the \Program Files\sword\books\ > > Don't forget to restart the app as stated in last email. > > Hope this helps, > -Troy. > > > > Dan Bertles wrote: > >>Troy, >> >>Haven't been able to get storage card to work. Do I store modules in >>separate directories on the storage card or at the root. >> >>Do I create/copy kjv.conf to that directory or do I refer to the path >>in a mods.conf or a kjv.conf in the mods.d directory? >> >>Thanks for your help. >> >>Dan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>Griffitts >>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:02 AM >>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>Subject: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes >> >> >>Added very basic support for display of Strong's, Morph, and Footnotes >>in a simple message box. It uses StripText right now, but we probably > > >>should use RenderText and display in an HTML control. But... it works > > >>ok right now. :) Also added an additional AugmentPath= to the .conf >>file. It seems my device uses "\SD Card" as the mount point whereas >>another device I tried the other day uses "\Memory Card". They're > > both > >>in there now. >> >>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >> >> >> -Troy. >> >> >> >>Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >> >> >>>Well, sorry to announce new packages twice so soon. I've redone the >>>utf8->utf16 converters and we seem to get greek now. Hebrew doesn't >>>seem to work yet, but it might be a font issue. I'm taking a break >>>now. >>> >>> Blessings, >>> -Troy. >>> >>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>> >>>Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>One more that should fix the last bug better, and also adds a popup >>>>menu for toggle of simple options like Strong's, etc. >>>> >>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>> >>>>Dan, be sure you're copying BOTH the sword.dll and the gui.exe from >>>>the .zip over your old files, and be sure you stop the process from >>>>running on your device BEFORE attempting to overwrite: >>>> >>>>Start|Settings|System|Memory|Running Programs|*SwRd|Stop >>>> >>>>Hope this helps; keep me posted, >>>> -Troy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Dan Bertles wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Troy, >>>>> >>>>>It acts exactly the same as before. NASB works fine, KJV is >>>>>invisible. >>>>> >>>>>Dan >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>>>>Griffitts >>>>>Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:10 PM >>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test: Windows CE interface >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Ok guys, I have a new CE binary ready for testing. Did some >>>>>debugging on the KJV that indeed wasn't showing up, and found that >> >>we >> >> >>>>>were returning null occasionally from XMLTag::getName() -- must have >> >> >>>>>invalid markup. So, we must check for .getName() == null first >>>>>before sending it to strcmp. >>>>> >>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, the sword libs have been updated and the KJV seems to work >>>>>ok >>>>>now for me. >>>>> >>>>>I think we still have a problem with UTF-16. I'll try to have a >>>>>look at >>>>> >>>>>our UTF8 to UTF16 filters soon and see if we can get things >>>>>resolved. I >>>>> >>>>>figured out that you can specify the font in the HTML source >>>>>stylesheet, >>>>> >>>>>so there is a line commented out that hardcodes code2000 in there. >>>>>Maybe we can make the font selectable for individual modules. >>>>> >>>>>Well, try it out and let us know. If you're programming, be sure to > > >>>>>update both the sword and swordreader cvs modules. >>>>> >>>>> God's blessings, >>>>> -Troy A. Griffitts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Dan Bertles wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Troy, >>>>>> >>>>>>Ok, I followed everything religiously, without my quirks of trying >>>>>>to maintain old file structures. This build won't read KJV where >> >>it >> >> >>>>>>would before. Note: the KJV does have notes that showed in >>>>>>italics. It reads the NASB module fine. >>>>>> >>>>>>Program Files\sword\books has 3 subdirectories (mods.d, nasb and >>>>>>kjv) >>>>>> >>>>>>mods.d has 3 files (nasb.conf, kjv.conf and globals.conf) >>>>>> >>>>>>I need the datapath statement in each modules conf file for them to > > >>>>>>work. >>>>>> >>>>>>The globals.conf file is empty? >>>>>> >>>>>>Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan >>>>>> >>>>>>P.S. http://palmtops.about.com/library/bltips9.htm says to install >>>>>>fonts: >>>>>> >>>>>>Tip: To install new fonts on you iPaq, copy the true type font >>>>>>file >>>>> >>>>>>from you desktop windows\fonts directory into your iPaq's >>>>> >>>>>>windows\fonts directory. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ipaqs are supposed to handle Unicode already. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>>>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >> >>Griffitts >> >> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 PM >>>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Windows CE interface >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan, >>>>>> Yeah, the layout has changed now that we use the SWORD library >>>>>>defaults. Also, it's not the same as the windows frontend. I have >> >> >>>>>>books placed in the 'books' folder now, so sword.conf will be used >>>>>>to find them AND books on SD/MMC cards. If you read the >>>>>>INSTALL.txt in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>zip file, it will explain the preferred layout, and the .zip file >>>>>>contains the correct subdirectories, so you should unzip it and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>preserve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>directories. >>>>>> >>>>>> What you show below includes a few workarounds that should not >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>necessary any longer. So, I would recommend removing \Program >>>>>>Files\sword and starting over with the zip file (and reading the >>>>>>INSTALL.txt) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, I can't confirm that these modules actually work. I've >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>tried >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>BHS, ASV, and WHNU, and all seem to lookup fine. I still have font > > >>>>>>issues, but for the ASV, I get readable text, and the other 2 I get >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>correct number of [] boxes :) Hoping someone can tell me how to >>>>>>use >>>>>>other fonts on CE. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. Keep me posted on your progress, >>>>>> -Troy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>D. Bertles wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Troy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I can't get this version to find the modules. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My mods.conf contains: >>>>>>>[NASB] >>>>>>>DataPath=modules/texts/ztext/nasb/ >>>>>>>... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>[KJV] >>>>>>>DataPath=modules/texts/ztext/kjv/ >>>>>>>... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>sword.conf contains: >>>>>>>[Install] >>>>>>>DataPath=/Program Files/sword/modules >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The build before this one works fine, but not this one. I tried >>>>>>>to >>>>>>>maintain the directory structure for the Windows version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Quoting "Troy A. Griffitts" : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>For anyone interested, I feel I am at a good solid point for >>>>>>>supporting the latest SWORD engine on CE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>All my changes are checked in if anyone wants to play. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Here's a build for testers: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There are install instructions in the zip file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Books should be recognized from SD/MMC cards now, as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for all the great work and effort people have put into >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>this, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>so >>>>>>>far! Hoping developers with better CE UI development skills than >>>>>>>me will make this a really cool application! Johan, thank you so >>>>>>>much! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Troy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Johan Gorter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have just made some progress on the windows CE user interface >>>>>>>>for sword. The text is now displayed through the built-in >>>>>>>>browser, so >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>it can >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>do some more layout-things. I have made a screen shot for >>>>>>>>everyone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>who >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>is interested to see what the program looks like right now. (and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>what an >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>IPAQ looks like) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://home.student.utwente.nl/j.gorter/SwordReader/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have a question about the thml filters: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I use the thmlhtml filter to generate the HTML to display. How >>>>>>>>can >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I get >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>the html formatted in such a way that the notes disappear (or >>>>>>>>move somehow), that red words of Christ are turned on (when >>>>>>>>available), >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>that other features (for example centered text in songs) are also >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>shown? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>I hope someone can help me out here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My (and I have faith it is also His) planning on the rest of the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>is like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>version 0.5 - The first version that I emailed to the list >>>>>>>>version 0.6 - The update version that I sent version 0.7 - this >>>>>>>>version (Source and compiled version in >>>>>>>>http://ozy.student.utwente.nl/~drsoong/SwordReader0.7.zip) >>>>>>>>version 0.8 - The find page implemented >>>>>>>>version 0.9 - The first real beta version: downloadable from a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>webpage, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>a normal installer, an about screen, etc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Greetings from the Netherlands, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Johan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>sword-devel mailing list >>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sword-devel mailing list >>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sword-devel mailing list >>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 2 22:30:28 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Johan Gorter) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 23:30:28 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Windows CE: find page In-Reply-To: <401E1B55.1030108@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <000701c3e9dc$29223350$40895982@DRSOONGVAIO> Hello Troy, Thanks for pointing me to the screenshots. These ideas are pretty good. I am a bit critical though in the choice of the options that this application offers. I think that it would be more useful to give the user the option to specify which part of the bible to search than do regular expressions or case-sensitive searches. But I can be wrong here of course. I was thinking of the following options: Search: - whole bible - this testament - this book And maybe offer the 'multi word' and 'exact phrase' options. Do these options sound likely to be used, and can the api fulfill this? What I also wanted to ask is if there is an alternative way to load a whole chapter. The verse-by-verse approach is very slow and, for example, paragraph-ends are omitted. If you know of a way to upgrade this, please feel free to do so. We are making some good progress. Do you think it is time to start designing a little website? In His grace, Johan PS: The problems I described in my last mail were due to me forgetting to update the sword lib as well. Sorry about that. Everything works fine, even the sword.conf. -----Original Message----- From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts Sent: 02 February 2004 10:42 To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes Johan, Have you seen the OPIE handheld application? Maybe the screenshots might give you some idea on how you want to lay out the find dialog box. We splitscreen and use the remaining text display in the top half to show the results. http://www.crosswire.org/qpsword/#ss I think it works out nice, but please design it how you'd like. If you get the shell done with some sample results added, I can hook the UI up the to real search code in sword. I'm just really bad with knowing how the windows controls are designed and populated. -Troy. Johan Gorter wrote: > Troy, > > I got the same problem with the version checked out from CVS. I solved > it by passing the '\program files\sword\books\' to the constructor of > SWMgr. I do not see how it should work otherwise. The sword.conf file > should probably do this, but I do not see where this file gets loaded > anywhere. > > Hope this helps, > > Johan > > -----Original Message----- > From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org > [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. > Griffitts > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 09:23 > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes > > > I have all my books stored on SD mem, so my directories look something > like: > > \SD Card\mods.d\kjv.conf > \SD Card\modules\texts\ztext\kjv\... > > Hope this helps. Basically just unzip the raw module download > packages > (maintaining their directory structure) to either the root of the memory > > card, or the \Program Files\sword\books\ > > Don't forget to restart the app as stated in last email. > > Hope this helps, > -Troy. > > > > Dan Bertles wrote: > >>Troy, >> >>Haven't been able to get storage card to work. Do I store modules in >>separate directories on the storage card or at the root. >> >>Do I create/copy kjv.conf to that directory or do I refer to the path >>in a mods.conf or a kjv.conf in the mods.d directory? >> >>Thanks for your help. >> >>Dan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>Griffitts >>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:02 AM >>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>Subject: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes >> >> >>Added very basic support for display of Strong's, Morph, and Footnotes >>in a simple message box. It uses StripText right now, but we probably > > >>should use RenderText and display in an HTML control. But... it works > > >>ok right now. :) Also added an additional AugmentPath= to the .conf >>file. It seems my device uses "\SD Card" as the mount point whereas >>another device I tried the other day uses "\Memory Card". They're > > both > >>in there now. >> >>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >> >> >> -Troy. >> >> >> >>Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >> >> >>>Well, sorry to announce new packages twice so soon. I've redone the >>>utf8->utf16 converters and we seem to get greek now. Hebrew doesn't >>>seem to work yet, but it might be a font issue. I'm taking a break >>>now. >>> >>> Blessings, >>> -Troy. >>> >>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>> >>>Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>One more that should fix the last bug better, and also adds a popup >>>>menu for toggle of simple options like Strong's, etc. >>>> >>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>> >>>>Dan, be sure you're copying BOTH the sword.dll and the gui.exe from >>>>the .zip over your old files, and be sure you stop the process from >>>>running on your device BEFORE attempting to overwrite: >>>> >>>>Start|Settings|System|Memory|Running Programs|*SwRd|Stop >>>> >>>>Hope this helps; keep me posted, >>>> -Troy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Dan Bertles wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Troy, >>>>> >>>>>It acts exactly the same as before. NASB works fine, KJV is >>>>>invisible. >>>>> >>>>>Dan >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>>>>Griffitts >>>>>Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:10 PM >>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test: Windows CE interface >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Ok guys, I have a new CE binary ready for testing. Did some >>>>>debugging on the KJV that indeed wasn't showing up, and found that >> >>we >> >> >>>>>were returning null occasionally from XMLTag::getName() -- must >>>>>have >> >> >>>>>invalid markup. So, we must check for .getName() == null first >>>>>before sending it to strcmp. >>>>> >>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, the sword libs have been updated and the KJV seems to work >>>>>ok now for me. >>>>> >>>>>I think we still have a problem with UTF-16. I'll try to have a >>>>>look at >>>>> >>>>>our UTF8 to UTF16 filters soon and see if we can get things >>>>>resolved. I >>>>> >>>>>figured out that you can specify the font in the HTML source >>>>>stylesheet, >>>>> >>>>>so there is a line commented out that hardcodes code2000 in there. >>>>>Maybe we can make the font selectable for individual modules. >>>>> >>>>>Well, try it out and let us know. If you're programming, be sure >>>>>to > > >>>>>update both the sword and swordreader cvs modules. >>>>> >>>>> God's blessings, >>>>> -Troy A. Griffitts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Dan Bertles wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Troy, >>>>>> >>>>>>Ok, I followed everything religiously, without my quirks of trying >>>>>>to maintain old file structures. This build won't read KJV where >> >>it >> >> >>>>>>would before. Note: the KJV does have notes that showed in >>>>>>italics. It reads the NASB module fine. >>>>>> >>>>>>Program Files\sword\books has 3 subdirectories (mods.d, nasb and >>>>>>kjv) >>>>>> >>>>>>mods.d has 3 files (nasb.conf, kjv.conf and globals.conf) >>>>>> >>>>>>I need the datapath statement in each modules conf file for them >>>>>>to > > >>>>>>work. >>>>>> >>>>>>The globals.conf file is empty? >>>>>> >>>>>>Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan >>>>>> >>>>>>P.S. http://palmtops.about.com/library/bltips9.htm says to install >>>>>>fonts: >>>>>> >>>>>>Tip: To install new fonts on you iPaq, copy the true type font >>>>>>file >>>>> >>>>>>from you desktop windows\fonts directory into your iPaq's >>>>> >>>>>>windows\fonts directory. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ipaqs are supposed to handle Unicode already. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>>>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >> >>Griffitts >> >> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 PM >>>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Windows CE interface >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan, >>>>>> Yeah, the layout has changed now that we use the SWORD library >>>>>>defaults. Also, it's not the same as the windows frontend. I >>>>>>have >> >> >>>>>>books placed in the 'books' folder now, so sword.conf will be used >>>>>>to find them AND books on SD/MMC cards. If you read the >>>>>>INSTALL.txt in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>zip file, it will explain the preferred layout, and the .zip file >>>>>>contains the correct subdirectories, so you should unzip it and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>preserve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>directories. >>>>>> >>>>>> What you show below includes a few workarounds that should not >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>necessary any longer. So, I would recommend removing \Program >>>>>>Files\sword and starting over with the zip file (and reading the >>>>>>INSTALL.txt) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, I can't confirm that these modules actually work. I've >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>tried >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>BHS, ASV, and WHNU, and all seem to lookup fine. I still have >>>>>>font > > >>>>>>issues, but for the ASV, I get readable text, and the other 2 I >>>>>>get >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>correct number of [] boxes :) Hoping someone can tell me how to >>>>>>use other fonts on CE. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. Keep me posted on your progress, >>>>>> -Troy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>D. Bertles wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Troy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I can't get this version to find the modules. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My mods.conf contains: >>>>>>>[NASB] >>>>>>>DataPath=modules/texts/ztext/nasb/ >>>>>>>... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>[KJV] >>>>>>>DataPath=modules/texts/ztext/kjv/ >>>>>>>... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>sword.conf contains: >>>>>>>[Install] >>>>>>>DataPath=/Program Files/sword/modules >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The build before this one works fine, but not this one. I tried >>>>>>>to maintain the directory structure for the Windows version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Quoting "Troy A. Griffitts" : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>For anyone interested, I feel I am at a good solid point for >>>>>>>supporting the latest SWORD engine on CE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>All my changes are checked in if anyone wants to play. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Here's a build for testers: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There are install instructions in the zip file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Books should be recognized from SD/MMC cards now, as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for all the great work and effort people have put into >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>this, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>so >>>>>>>far! Hoping developers with better CE UI development skills than >>>>>>>me will make this a really cool application! Johan, thank you so >>>>>>>much! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Troy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Johan Gorter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have just made some progress on the windows CE user interface >>>>>>>>for sword. The text is now displayed through the built-in >>>>>>>>browser, so >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>it can >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>do some more layout-things. I have made a screen shot for >>>>>>>>everyone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>who >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>is interested to see what the program looks like right now. (and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>what an >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>IPAQ looks like) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://home.student.utwente.nl/j.gorter/SwordReader/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have a question about the thml filters: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I use the thmlhtml filter to generate the HTML to display. How >>>>>>>>can >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I get >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>the html formatted in such a way that the notes disappear (or >>>>>>>>move somehow), that red words of Christ are turned on (when >>>>>>>>available), >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>that other features (for example centered text in songs) are >>>>>>>>also >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>shown? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>I hope someone can help me out here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My (and I have faith it is also His) planning on the rest of the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>is like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>version 0.5 - The first version that I emailed to the list >>>>>>>>version 0.6 - The update version that I sent version 0.7 - this >>>>>>>>version (Source and compiled version in >>>>>>>>http://ozy.student.utwente.nl/~drsoong/SwordReader0.7.zip) >>>>>>>>version 0.8 - The find page implemented >>>>>>>>version 0.9 - The first real beta version: downloadable from a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>webpage, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>a normal installer, an about screen, etc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Greetings from the Netherlands, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Johan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>sword-devel mailing list >>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sword-devel mailing list >>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sword-devel mailing list >>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 2 23:44:57 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Barnhart) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:44:57 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules Message-ID: <200402022344.i12NivPW024444@ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3E9BC.A8E8D320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am interested in testing NIV and beta sword software. 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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3E9BC.A8E8D320-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 3 07:03:34 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hugo van der Kooij) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:03:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: [sword-devel] Fedora Core inclusion Message-ID: Hi, I just started the painstaking process to get sword included in the Fedora Core process. In what part it will end up is yet unknown but I will keep you informed while I reshape the spec file into something they want. Hugo. -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 3 18:53:52 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:53:52 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] Windows CE: find page In-Reply-To: <000701c3e9dc$29223350$40895982@DRSOONGVAIO> References: <000701c3e9dc$29223350$40895982@DRSOONGVAIO> Message-ID: <401FEE40.5070707@crosswire.org> Johan Gorter wrote: > Thanks for pointing me to the screenshots. These ideas are pretty good. > I am a bit critical though in the choice of the options that this > application offers. I think that it would be more useful to give the > user the option to specify which part of the bible to search than do > regular expressions or case-sensitive searches. But I can be wrong here > of course. Nope, you are probably correct. I can't think of the last time I did a regex or case-sensitive search on the Z. I was thinking of the following options: > > Search: > - whole bible > - this testament > - this book In the Windows frontend, we allow defining of custom ranges and save them in a .conf. We supply a series of predefined ranges in the .conf file upon install. I don't think we need a facility to let the user define their own range, but we could use the same code for reading the predefined ranges as in the windows frontend. Here is what we ship. [CustomRanges] Gospels=Mat-John History=Jos-Est Letters/Epistles=Rom-Jude Moses/Pentateuch/Torah=Gen-Deu New Testament=mat-rev Old Testament=gen-mal Paul's Epistles=Rom-Phile;Heb Poetry and Wisdom=Job-Song; Lam Prophets=Isa-Mal And having a few hardcoded 'logical' definitions, like 'Current Book' is a great idea, as well. What do you think? > And maybe offer the 'multi word' and 'exact phrase' options. Do these > options sound likely to be used, and can the api fulfill this? Yes, the api has support for all of these options. > What I also wanted to ask is if there is an alternative way to load a > whole chapter. The verse-by-verse approach is very slow I suspect this is not the speed issue. Have you tried turning Strong's numbers on? You will notice the speed greatly degrades. Having Strong's numbers ON actually improves the speed of the engine code. (The numbers are always in the text. Turning them OFF requires stripping them out). My suspision is that the display in the HTML control is the speed problem. I would suggest testing this by changing the final line that populates the HTML control with a small string: - addHtml(htmlControl, text.c_str()); + addHtml(htmlControl, L"Test String"); and, for > example, paragraph-ends are omitted. Paragraph ends should not be omitted. If there is a paragraph break in the text, there should be HTML tags that represent these. If you know of a way to upgrade > this, please feel free to do so. I only see a speed problem on my end where there are a number of links in the text. I was thinking of a few ways to improve this: a) only show strongs/morph on the current verse (and maybe previous/next verse-- so 3 verses). b) show less than 1 chapter at a time I can't think of anything else offhand right now. Keep me posted if you have any ideas. > We are making some good progress. Do you think it is time to start > designing a little website? yes! I hope we can release something public with version 1.5.8 of our engine, which should be in a month or so. Before releasing, I would personally like to add support for all 4 types of books we support: Bibles (already done), Commentaries (very simple, just only show current verse, not the whole chapter), Lexicon, and General Books. The last 2 will require a little thinking. They are easier to display (only the current entry, don't need to iterate and build the display text), but the navigation may be a little harder. In qpsword, we have this concept: a navigation key control. When displaying a Bible or commentary, this is the Book/Chapter/Verse controls. I like your navigation better. It's much easier to jump to a location with your navigator-- I think because it display the entire domain for each subsection, all on the screen. When displaying a lexicon, this is a simple edit box that does an incremental lookup as you type. When displaying a general book, it is a 'path' textbox, with an expand button.. e.g. [Topic 3/Chapter 1/Section V/][*] If the [*] button is pressed, a tree control is displayed that shows the book's table of contents and lets the user navigate and select a new location. This seems like a lot of work, but for me, it would be straightforward to implement if I could have the UI designed and functional. If I had the controls in place, and an example of how to populate/respond to the controls, I should be able to hook them up to the engine with no problems. I understand that you want this to be a basic reading application. I would like to honor this desire and not show any of these controls if these types of books are not installed. I'll try to keep the interface only as cluttered as required for the books that are installed. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. -Troy. > > In His grace, > > Johan > > PS: The problems I described in my last mail were due to me forgetting > to update the sword lib as well. Sorry about that. Everything works > fine, even the sword.conf. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org > [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts > Sent: 02 February 2004 10:42 > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes > > > Johan, > Have you seen the OPIE handheld application? Maybe the > screenshots > might give you some idea on how you want to lay out the find dialog box. > > We splitscreen and use the remaining text display in the top half to > show the results. > > http://www.crosswire.org/qpsword/#ss > > I think it works out nice, but please design it how you'd like. If > you get the shell done with some sample results added, I can hook the UI > > up the to real search code in sword. I'm just really bad with knowing > how the windows controls are designed and populated. > > -Troy. > > > > Johan Gorter wrote: > >>Troy, >> >>I got the same problem with the version checked out from CVS. I solved > > >>it by passing the '\program files\sword\books\' to the constructor of >>SWMgr. I do not see how it should work otherwise. The sword.conf file >>should probably do this, but I do not see where this file gets loaded >>anywhere. >> >>Hope this helps, >> >>Johan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>Griffitts >>Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 09:23 >>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes >> >> >>I have all my books stored on SD mem, so my directories look something >>like: >> >>\SD Card\mods.d\kjv.conf >>\SD Card\modules\texts\ztext\kjv\... >> >>Hope this helps. Basically just unzip the raw module download >>packages >>(maintaining their directory structure) to either the root of the > > memory > >>card, or the \Program Files\sword\books\ >> >>Don't forget to restart the app as stated in last email. >> >>Hope this helps, >> -Troy. >> >> >> >>Dan Bertles wrote: >> >> >>>Troy, >>> >>>Haven't been able to get storage card to work. Do I store modules in >>>separate directories on the storage card or at the root. >>> >>>Do I create/copy kjv.conf to that directory or do I refer to the path >>>in a mods.conf or a kjv.conf in the mods.d directory? >>> >>>Thanks for your help. >>> >>>Dan >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>>Griffitts >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:02 AM >>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>Subject: [sword-devel] New Test, CE: strongs, morph, footnotes >>> >>> >>>Added very basic support for display of Strong's, Morph, and Footnotes > > >>>in a simple message box. It uses StripText right now, but we probably >> >> >>>should use RenderText and display in an HTML control. But... it works >> >> >>>ok right now. :) Also added an additional AugmentPath= to the .conf >>>file. It seems my device uses "\SD Card" as the mount point whereas >>>another device I tried the other day uses "\Memory Card". They're >> >>both >> >> >>>in there now. >>> >>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>> >>> >>> -Troy. >>> >>> >>> >>>Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well, sorry to announce new packages twice so soon. I've redone the >>>>utf8->utf16 converters and we seem to get greek now. Hebrew doesn't >>>>seem to work yet, but it might be a font issue. I'm taking a break >>>>now. >>>> >>>> Blessings, >>>> -Troy. >>>> >>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>> >>>>Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>One more that should fix the last bug better, and also adds a popup >>>>>menu for toggle of simple options like Strong's, etc. >>>>> >>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>> >>>>>Dan, be sure you're copying BOTH the sword.dll and the gui.exe from >>>>>the .zip over your old files, and be sure you stop the process from >>>>>running on your device BEFORE attempting to overwrite: >>>>> >>>>>Start|Settings|System|Memory|Running Programs|*SwRd|Stop >>>>> >>>>>Hope this helps; keep me posted, >>>>> -Troy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Dan Bertles wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Troy, >>>>>> >>>>>>It acts exactly the same as before. NASB works fine, KJV is >>>>>>invisible. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>>>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>>>>>Griffitts >>>>>>Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:10 PM >>>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Test: Windows CE interface >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Ok guys, I have a new CE binary ready for testing. Did some >>>>>>debugging on the KJV that indeed wasn't showing up, and found that >>> >>>we >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>were returning null occasionally from XMLTag::getName() -- must >>>>>>have >>> >>> >>>>>>invalid markup. So, we must check for .getName() == null first >>>>>>before sending it to strcmp. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, the sword libs have been updated and the KJV seems to work >>>>>>ok now for me. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think we still have a problem with UTF-16. I'll try to have a >>>>>>look at >>>>>> >>>>>>our UTF8 to UTF16 filters soon and see if we can get things >>>>>>resolved. I >>>>>> >>>>>>figured out that you can specify the font in the HTML source >>>>>>stylesheet, >>>>>> >>>>>>so there is a line commented out that hardcodes code2000 in there. >>>>>>Maybe we can make the font selectable for individual modules. >>>>>> >>>>>>Well, try it out and let us know. If you're programming, be sure >>>>>>to >> >> >>>>>>update both the sword and swordreader cvs modules. >>>>>> >>>>>> God's blessings, >>>>>> -Troy A. Griffitts. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan Bertles wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Troy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok, I followed everything religiously, without my quirks of trying >>>>>>>to maintain old file structures. This build won't read KJV where >>> >>>it >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>would before. Note: the KJV does have notes that showed in >>>>>>>italics. It reads the NASB module fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Program Files\sword\books has 3 subdirectories (mods.d, nasb and >>>>>>>kjv) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>mods.d has 3 files (nasb.conf, kjv.conf and globals.conf) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I need the datapath statement in each modules conf file for them >>>>>>>to >> >> >>>>>>>work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The globals.conf file is empty? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>P.S. http://palmtops.about.com/library/bltips9.htm says to install >>>>>>>fonts: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Tip: To install new fonts on you iPaq, copy the true type font >>>>>>>file >>>>>> >>>>>>>from you desktop windows\fonts directory into your iPaq's >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>windows\fonts directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ipaqs are supposed to handle Unicode already. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org >>>>>>>[mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. >>> >>>Griffitts >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 PM >>>>>>>To: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Windows CE interface >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dan, >>>>>>> Yeah, the layout has changed now that we use the SWORD library >>>>>>>defaults. Also, it's not the same as the windows frontend. I >>>>>>>have >>> >>> >>>>>>>books placed in the 'books' folder now, so sword.conf will be used > > >>>>>>>to find them AND books on SD/MMC cards. If you read the >>>>>>>INSTALL.txt in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>zip file, it will explain the preferred layout, and the .zip file >>>>>>>contains the correct subdirectories, so you should unzip it and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>preserve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>directories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What you show below includes a few workarounds that should not >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>necessary any longer. So, I would recommend removing \Program >>>>>>>Files\sword and starting over with the zip file (and reading the >>>>>>>INSTALL.txt) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, I can't confirm that these modules actually work. I've >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>tried >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>BHS, ASV, and WHNU, and all seem to lookup fine. I still have >>>>>>>font >> >> >>>>>>>issues, but for the ASV, I get readable text, and the other 2 I >>>>>>>get >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>correct number of [] boxes :) Hoping someone can tell me how to >>>>>>>use other fonts on CE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. Keep me posted on your progress, >>>>>>> -Troy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>D. Bertles wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Troy, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I can't get this version to find the modules. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My mods.conf contains: >>>>>>>>[NASB] >>>>>>>>DataPath=modules/texts/ztext/nasb/ >>>>>>>>... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[KJV] >>>>>>>>DataPath=modules/texts/ztext/kjv/ >>>>>>>>... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>sword.conf contains: >>>>>>>>[Install] >>>>>>>>DataPath=/Program Files/sword/modules >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The build before this one works fine, but not this one. I tried >>>>>>>>to maintain the directory structure for the Windows version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Quoting "Troy A. Griffitts" : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>For anyone interested, I feel I am at a good solid point for >>>>>>>>supporting the latest SWORD engine on CE. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>All my changes are checked in if anyone wants to play. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Here's a build for testers: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://crosswire.org/~scribe/swordce.zip >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There are install instructions in the zip file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Books should be recognized from SD/MMC cards now, as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for all the great work and effort people have put into >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>this, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>so >>>>>>>>far! Hoping developers with better CE UI development skills than >>>>>>>>me will make this a really cool application! Johan, thank you so > > >>>>>>>>much! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Troy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Johan Gorter wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have just made some progress on the windows CE user interface >>>>>>>>>for sword. The text is now displayed through the built-in >>>>>>>>>browser, so >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>it can >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>do some more layout-things. I have made a screen shot for >>>>>>>>>everyone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>who >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>is interested to see what the program looks like right now. (and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>what an >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>IPAQ looks like) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://home.student.utwente.nl/j.gorter/SwordReader/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have a question about the thml filters: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I use the thmlhtml filter to generate the HTML to display. How >>>>>>>>>can >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I get >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>the html formatted in such a way that the notes disappear (or >>>>>>>>>move somehow), that red words of Christ are turned on (when >>>>>>>>>available), >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>that other features (for example centered text in songs) are >>>>>>>>>also >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>shown? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I hope someone can help me out here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>My (and I have faith it is also His) planning on the rest of the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>is like this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>version 0.5 - The first version that I emailed to the list >>>>>>>>>version 0.6 - The update version that I sent version 0.7 - this >>>>>>>>>version (Source and compiled version in >>>>>>>>>http://ozy.student.utwente.nl/~drsoong/SwordReader0.7.zip) >>>>>>>>>version 0.8 - The find page implemented >>>>>>>>>version 0.9 - The first real beta version: downloadable from a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>webpage, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>a normal installer, an about screen, etc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Greetings from the Netherlands, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Johan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>sword-devel mailing list >>>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>sword-devel mailing list >>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>sword-devel mailing list >>>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sword-devel mailing list >>sword-devel@crosswire.org >>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 2 02:29:44 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Adrian Korten) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 09:29:44 +0700 Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible module info In-Reply-To: <1075519122.3899.95.camel@duallie> References: <1075519122.3899.95.camel@duallie> Message-ID: <401DB618.2040601@sil.org> Good day, The NET Bible's authorization for use in the Sword program has stalled a number of times. It has not made it to approved and available as far as I remember from the posts. It would be great to have it! I've thought of this module and would like to see it split into Bible and commentary (footnotes are extensive) modules but include both in the install. I have not had the time to do this for myself although I have and occasionally read the html version. Adrian Jae Stutzman wrote: > Michael, > > Introduction: I'm a SW eng that has been using GnomeSword for awhile and > am familiar with your project, but you don't know me! > > I just found a message in the archives about the NET Bible. What is the > current status as you know it? Is it being worked on as a module? I > contacted BSF about it last week and got a favorable response, but I > don't want to duplicate anything that has already been done. > > It sounds like they are interested in the idea of having it as a SWORD > module. > > I posted a similar question on the forum...but little traffic there. > > Sincerely, > > Jae > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 01:22:11 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Adrian Korten) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:22:11 +0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Wanted: raw help files for v1.5.6 In-Reply-To: <1075519122.3899.95.camel@duallie> References: <1075519122.3899.95.camel@duallie> Message-ID: <40204943.8020703@sil.org> Good day, Are the help files for v1.5.6 available somewhere? The v1.5.4 help files in a raw format are available on the alpha site but not the newer Win version. If not available, could someone upload them. We have a volunteer who will translate the files into Thai. (Then I'll need to figure out how to compile it into a .chm.) ak From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 02:46:32 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Trotz) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 18:46:32 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules References: <200402022344.i12NivPW024444@ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000d01c3eac9$196a9f90$1c02a8c0@NEO> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3EA86.0AF4D2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What page? As far as I know we do not distribute these keys, nor do we = distribute copyrighted texts, not even to beta testers, since there is = nothing to test with these. Sorry for the bad news. In Christ, David Trotz ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Barnhart=20 To: sword-devel@crosswire.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules Hello, =20 I am interested in testing NIV and beta sword software. The page says = to e-mail keys@crosswire.org for unlock codes and download locations but = I get an e-mail error back from the address. I believe the e-mail = address needs updated. Also if someone could point me in the right = direction I would be greatful! =20 Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3EA86.0AF4D2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What page? As far as I know we do not = distribute=20 these keys, nor do we distribute copyrighted texts, not even to beta = testers,=20 since there is nothing to test with these. Sorry for the bad = news.
In Christ,
David Trotz
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I am interested in = testing NIV and=20 beta sword software. The page says to e-mail keys@crosswire.org for unlock = codes and=20 download locations but I get an e-mail error back from the address. I = believe=20 the e-mail address needs updated. Also if someone could point me in = the right=20 direction I would be greatful!

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3EA86.0AF4D2C0-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 12:57:47 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 06:57:47 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules In-Reply-To: <000d01c3eac9$196a9f90$1c02a8c0@NEO> References: <200402022344.i12NivPW024444@ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> <000d01c3eac9$196a9f90$1c02a8c0@NEO> Message-ID: <4020EC4B.4090004@crosswire.org> David is right. Sorry about the misleading notice on the Alpha page--I removed it. On occasion, we do have beta builds of Sword to test, as well as beta versions of modules. --Chris David Trotz wrote: > What page? As far as I know we do not distribute these keys, nor do we > distribute copyrighted texts, not even to beta testers, since there is > nothing to test with these. Sorry for the bad news. > In Christ, > David Trotz > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Steve Barnhart > *To:* sword-devel@crosswire.org > *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM > *Subject:* [sword-devel] NIV Modules > > Hello, > > > > I am interested in testing NIV and beta sword software. The page > says to e-mail keys@crosswire.org for > unlock codes and download locations but I get an e-mail error back > from the address. I believe the e-mail address needs updated. Also > if someone could point me in the right direction I would be greatful! > > > > Steve > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 03:25:41 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Barnhart) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:25:41 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules In-Reply-To: <4020EC4B.4090004@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <200402040325.i143PfQH007617@ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Not even if I plan to make future modules or even help develop? I really would like my preferred translation to use the software, otherwise I'll probably just stick to my normal book bible reading an reading a occasional topic note from e-sword. I promise I'm not going to distribute it. Even if I bought a NIV bible I can't use an NIV module? -----Original Message----- From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:58 AM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NIV Modules David is right. Sorry about the misleading notice on the Alpha page--I removed it. On occasion, we do have beta builds of Sword to test, as well as beta versions of modules. --Chris David Trotz wrote: > What page? As far as I know we do not distribute these keys, nor do we > distribute copyrighted texts, not even to beta testers, since there is > nothing to test with these. Sorry for the bad news. > In Christ, > David Trotz > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Steve Barnhart > *To:* sword-devel@crosswire.org > *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM > *Subject:* [sword-devel] NIV Modules > > Hello, > > > > I am interested in testing NIV and beta sword software. The page > says to e-mail keys@crosswire.org for > unlock codes and download locations but I get an e-mail error back > from the address. I believe the e-mail address needs updated. Also > if someone could point me in the right direction I would be greatful! > > > > Steve > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 04:05:16 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Trotz) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:05:16 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules References: <200402040325.i143PfQH007617@ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000d01c3ead4$191fb2e0$1c02a8c0@NEO> Ask Zondervan, if they are willing to give you the sword module to use then we have no problem with it. The bottom line is we cannot distribute it. If the NIV is that important to you then you need to use other software. Thanks for the inquiry. In Christ, David Trotz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barnhart" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NIV Modules > Not even if I plan to make future modules or even help develop? I really > would like my preferred translation to use the software, otherwise I'll > probably just stick to my normal book bible reading an reading a occasional > topic note from e-sword. I promise I'm not going to distribute it. Even if I > bought a NIV bible I can't use an NIV module? > > -----Original Message----- > From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org > [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:58 AM > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NIV Modules > > David is right. Sorry about the misleading notice on the Alpha page--I > removed it. On occasion, we do have beta builds of Sword to test, as > well as beta versions of modules. > > --Chris > > > David Trotz wrote: > > > What page? As far as I know we do not distribute these keys, nor do we > > distribute copyrighted texts, not even to beta testers, since there is > > nothing to test with these. Sorry for the bad news. > > In Christ, > > David Trotz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Steve Barnhart > > *To:* sword-devel@crosswire.org > > *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM > > *Subject:* [sword-devel] NIV Modules > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am interested in testing NIV and beta sword software. The page > > says to e-mail keys@crosswire.org for > > unlock codes and download locations but I get an e-mail error back > > from the address. I believe the e-mail address needs updated. Also > > if someone could point me in the right direction I would be greatful! > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 04:18:38 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Barnhart) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:18:38 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] NIV Modules In-Reply-To: <000d01c3ead4$191fb2e0$1c02a8c0@NEO> Message-ID: <200402040419.i144IfPQ016717@ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Okay I will, thank you for responding and your patience. Maybe I can somehow strike a deal with them. Thanks again. Steve -----Original Message----- From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of David Trotz Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:05 PM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NIV Modules Ask Zondervan, if they are willing to give you the sword module to use then we have no problem with it. The bottom line is we cannot distribute it. If the NIV is that important to you then you need to use other software. Thanks for the inquiry. In Christ, David Trotz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barnhart" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NIV Modules > Not even if I plan to make future modules or even help develop? I really > would like my preferred translation to use the software, otherwise I'll > probably just stick to my normal book bible reading an reading a occasional > topic note from e-sword. I promise I'm not going to distribute it. Even if I > bought a NIV bible I can't use an NIV module? > > -----Original Message----- > From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org > [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:58 AM > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NIV Modules > > David is right. Sorry about the misleading notice on the Alpha page--I > removed it. On occasion, we do have beta builds of Sword to test, as > well as beta versions of modules. > > --Chris > > > David Trotz wrote: > > > What page? As far as I know we do not distribute these keys, nor do we > > distribute copyrighted texts, not even to beta testers, since there is > > nothing to test with these. Sorry for the bad news. > > In Christ, > > David Trotz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Steve Barnhart > > *To:* sword-devel@crosswire.org > > *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM > > *Subject:* [sword-devel] NIV Modules > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am interested in testing NIV and beta sword software. The page > > says to e-mail keys@crosswire.org for > > unlock codes and download locations but I get an e-mail error back > > from the address. I believe the e-mail address needs updated. Also > > if someone could point me in the right direction I would be greatful! > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 1/30/2004 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 14:22:03 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:22:03 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] OSIS 2.0.1 modules available In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040127100615.03076608@127.0.0.1> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20040127100615.03076608@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <4021000B.1050701@crosswire.org> Michael Paul Johnson wrote: > American Standard Version http://eBible.org/asv/asvosis.zip > God's Living Word http://eBible.org/glw/glwosis.zip > Hebrew Names Version http://eBible.org/hnv/hnvosis.zip > King James Version http://eBible.org/kjv/kjvosis.zip > Melanesian Pidgin http://eBible.org/pdg/TokPisinOSIS.zip > World English Bible http://eBible.org/web/webosis.zip Looks good. I saw just a few issues that need some correction. The most important is that eID's need a value matching the preceding sID on another element. I think this is the only issue that actually violates the spec. Aside from that: The book
elements should have an osisID attribute where you used scope. The code for English is "en". You can use "ENG" in the element, however. (This isn't yet clear from the manual, of course, but I expect the final version of the manual will cover this area adequately.) Various other issues, like the format of the , are in flux, and will probably be defined in OSIS 2.1 or the final manual. (My current best guess at the value "Bible.en.Rainbow_Ministries.WEB.2004-01-22".) > If you care to alter the marker and quote marks to strictly comply > with the OSIS 2 documentation, then you face the following > difficulties: > > 1. You MUST provide additional information outside of the OSIS > standard to the users of OSIS text that allows the punctuation to be > EXACTLY recreated as in the original text. The rules of this > recreation and the exact markers used are different for different > languages, different dialects, and even for different translations > within the same dialect. They aren't even the same for all of the > texts above. If you use the marks in the KJV to generate red text, > that is OK, but if you generate quotation marks, you are changing the > text. The KJV has no quotation marks, nor does the ASV. I was sympathetic with this position, since it really does make conversion from other formats easier, but using is undeniably better. It is true that different language, dialects, and translations use different standards of placing quotation marks. However, there are also plenty of instances when the SAME translation demonstrates different standards of placing quotation marks, depending on locale, paragraphing, and contemporary standards. This is part of why OSIS requires marking with rather than typographic quotation marks. (Another benefit is the potential for more richly tagged text, with speaker information.) For example.... Neighboring Francophone and Anglophone regions may allow use of a single vernacular translation, but would still need to be printed in two editions, using French and English quotation mark standards, respectively. Translations may be rendered as paragraph or in verse-per-line format, and will require different numbers of continuation quotation marks, depending on this rendering. And quotation mark standards for the KJV will vary, depending on whether you are rendering a facsimile of the original, a modern UK edition, or a modern US edition. > 2. If you scan a new Bible text that has correct quotation marks, you > probably won't be able to fully automate conversion from those marks > to markup. > > 3. If you fail in doing 1 or 2, above, you may be in violation of > copyright, trademark, and/or common law. Worse yet, you shift > responsibility before God from the translators to yourself for the > accurate transmission of His Word. Copyright, trademark, common law, aren't involved, though contract law might be (depending on your contract). Suggesting that you will somehow have "responsibility before God" (unless you're intentionally rendering incorrectly) would be pretty ridiculous and implies that every typesetter or translator who ever made a mistake while working on a Bible (probably all of them) will be held responsible for those acts. > The OSIS spec should be changed to allow separation of quotation mark > generation markers from words of Jesus markers. We probably won't ever see that, precisely because there already exists a way to express this. There also probably won't ever be anything akin to a note start anchor, since it can already be expressed. The first verse of the WEB reads: In the beginning GodAfter “God,” the Hebrew has the two letters “Aleph Tav” (the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet) as a grammatical marker. created the heavens and the earth. and could instead be encoded with a to indicate the annotant of the : In the beginning GodGod After “God,” the Hebrew has the two letters “Aleph Tav” (the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet) as a grammatical marker. created the heavens and the earth. or with an osisRef with a grain, to explicitly define the range of the annotant: In the beginning GodAfter “God,” the Hebrew has the two letters “Aleph Tav” (the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet) as a grammatical marker. created the heavens and the earth. or: In the beginning GodAfter “God,” the Hebrew has the two letters “Aleph Tav” (the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet) as a grammatical marker. created the heavens and the earth. (The first grain example uses the string matching grain, the second uses character counting. These should be detailed in the manual. If not... they will be in the final. :) --Chris From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 09:35:09 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Christian Renz) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:35:09 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword does not cooperate with Safari 1.2 Message-ID: <20040204093509.GA72087@web42.com> Will, just wanted to let you know I'm having trouble with MacSword 0.4.0 after the update to Safari 1.2. It doesn't show any foreign characters any more (e.g. Chinese, German umlauts) and crashes when I double click a book name. I can only open a book by doing a search and then clicking on a verse found. By the way, the search finds more than intended: If I search for "Whole Words", it will still list verses where the search words are found inside a word. For example, if one of my words is "in", it will also find it in "inside". Greetings, Christian -- crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ "Relying on God has to begin all over again every day as if nothing had yet been done." -- C.S. Lewis, from a letter to "Mrs. L." From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 16:34:32 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lamar Owen) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:34:32 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Fedora Core inclusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200402041134.32252.lamar.owen@wgcr.org> On Tuesday 03 February 2004 02:03 am, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > I just started the painstaking process to get sword included in the Fedora > Core process. In what part it will end up is yet unknown but I will keep > you informed while I reshape the spec file into something they want. > Hugo. I applaud the effort, but I'll have to ask which direction you are going with this. Are you attempting to go through fedora.us (which will become Fedora Extras), or are you trying to get sword directly into Core (not likely to happen, IMO)? -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 17:38:42 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joe Walker) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:38:42 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Module Installation Message-ID: <40212E22.8080903@eireneh.com> Hi, I'm adding a module downloader to JSword, and not being totally sure how to get it to work. The current algorithm goes like this: - download "mods.d.tar.gz" from the given directory - unpack, and select a module - from the config file for a module pick the DataPath element - download all the files from that directory (without recursing down the tree) into a directory of the same name within your sword modules tree. However this fails because many of the DataPath elements point off into space somewhere. Does anyone know the right algorithm? Thanks, Joe. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 18:27:36 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:27:36 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Module Installation In-Reply-To: <40212E22.8080903@eireneh.com> References: <40212E22.8080903@eireneh.com> Message-ID: <40213998.8050704@crosswire.org> Hey Joe, Yeah, we have an attribute stored for a module called: AbsoluteDataPath which will return the directory the fullpath to the datafiles. It's built in SWMgr. There is duplicate code in src/mgr/installmgr.cpp that does the same thing (which should be removed and used AbsoluteDataPath, but give the algorithm more concisely). Hope this helps, -Troy. cf. /RawGenBook ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/source/v1.5/sword-1.5.7/src/mgr/installmgr.cpp cf. /AbsoluteDataPath ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/source/v1.5/sword-1.5.7/src/mgr/swmgr.cpp Joe Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm adding a module downloader to JSword, and not being totally sure how > to get it to work. > > The current algorithm goes like this: > > - download "mods.d.tar.gz" from the given directory > - unpack, and select a module > - from the config file for a module pick the DataPath element > - download all the files from that directory (without recursing > down the tree) into a directory of the same name within your > sword modules tree. > > However this fails because many of the DataPath elements point off into > space somewhere. > > Does anyone know the right algorithm? > > Thanks, > > Joe. > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 18:29:13 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hugo van der Kooij) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:29:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [sword-devel] Fedora Core inclusion In-Reply-To: <200402041134.32252.lamar.owen@wgcr.org> References: <200402041134.32252.lamar.owen@wgcr.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Tuesday 03 February 2004 02:03 am, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > > I just started the painstaking process to get sword included in the Fedora > > Core process. In what part it will end up is yet unknown but I will keep > > you informed while I reshape the spec file into something they want. > > I applaud the effort, but I'll have to ask which direction you are going with > this. Are you attempting to go through fedora.us (which will become Fedora > Extras), or are you trying to get sword directly into Core (not likely to > happen, IMO)? It will go in extras. That is the only place people can contribute. Hugo. -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 18:41:22 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Adams) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:41:22 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Fedora Core inclusion - Curiousity Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002101c3eb4e$7cf9ada0$3c00000a@daninfochi> Will this be including some sort of a version of Diatheke, or whatever command line reference might exist? Dan -----Original Message----- From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Hugo van der Kooij Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:29 AM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Fedora Core inclusion On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Tuesday 03 February 2004 02:03 am, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > > I just started the painstaking process to get sword included in the > > Fedora Core process. In what part it will end up is yet unknown but > > I will keep you informed while I reshape the spec file into > > something they want. > > I applaud the effort, but I'll have to ask which direction you are > going with this. Are you attempting to go through fedora.us (which > will become Fedora Extras), or are you trying to get sword directly > into Core (not likely to happen, IMO)? It will go in extras. That is the only place people can contribute. Hugo. -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 19:17:33 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:17:33 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] Module Installation In-Reply-To: <40212E22.8080903@eireneh.com> References: <40212E22.8080903@eireneh.com> Message-ID: <4021454D.60806@crosswire.org> Joe Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm adding a module downloader to JSword, and not being totally sure how > to get it to work. > > The current algorithm goes like this: > > - download "mods.d.tar.gz" from the given directory > - unpack, and select a module > - from the config file for a module pick the DataPath element > - download all the files from that directory (without recursing > down the tree) into a directory of the same name within your > sword modules tree. No, DO recurse down the tree. Failing to do that will fail to grab all of the files in at least two modules I can think of. --Chris From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 19:32:06 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lamar Owen) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:32:06 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Fedora Core inclusion In-Reply-To: References: <200402041134.32252.lamar.owen@wgcr.org> Message-ID: <200402041432.06029.lamar.owen@wgcr.org> On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01:29 pm, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > It will go in extras. That is the only place people can contribute. Good luck. The fedora.us process is quite involved. If you do get sword included, I may just have to work up to getting BibleTime included. In my case, I may have a little easier time of it, since I'm already a recognized packager with contributions in Core (not Extras) in the form of the PostgreSQL packages. If you need any help let me know. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 19:41:17 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Barnhart) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:41:17 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: NIV Bible Translation Message-ID: <200402041941.i14JfItP004448@ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C3EB2C.F3C3A700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I contacted Zondervan and after them confusing the Sword Project with e-sword, they said it should not be assumed that there is a NIV module = to be =93unlocked=94, because there isn=92t. Of course we know there is one. = Anyway they went on to say that they do not own the copyright but the International Bible Society does. Now I am confused=85 =20 Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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I contacted Zondervan and after them confusing the = Sword Project with e-sword, they said it should not be assumed that there is a = NIV module to be “unlocked”, because there isn’t. Of = course we know there is one. Anyway they went on to say that they do not own the copyright but the International Bible Society does. Now I am = confused…

 

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------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C3EB2C.F3C3A700-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 19:43:17 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chad Uretsky) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:43:17 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright Message-ID: <004701c3eb57$246d70a0$e610150a@us.netiq.corp> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C3EB24.D8132830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know what the task list looks like for the NASB, or what = progress (if any) has been made toward obtaining rights from the Lockman = Foundation to use the NASB. If anyone would care to get approval for = it's use, as a test (my first attempt at working with Sword modules), I = have created an NASB (1995) module for Sword. I'd be happy to release it if rights to it were granted by the Lockman = Foundation. Does anyone know where this stands? Thanks. In Christ, Chad ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C3EB24.D8132830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know what the task list looks = like for the=20 NASB, or what progress (if any) has been made toward obtaining rights = from the=20 Lockman Foundation to use the NASB.  If anyone would care to get = approval=20 for it's use, as a test (my first attempt at working with Sword = modules), I have=20 created an NASB (1995) module for Sword.
 
I'd be happy to release it if rights to = it were=20 granted by the Lockman Foundation.
 
Does anyone know where this = stands?
 
Thanks.
 
In Christ,
Chad
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C3EB24.D8132830-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 20:17:00 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:17:00 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] Proposed BibleCS Toolbar Icons References: <40212E22.8080903@eireneh.com> <4021454D.60806@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <03e901c3eb5b$d8e54040$6401a8c0@dkv6pe0iben68t> I have created some toolbar icons for BibleCS. http://elbourne.org/sword/toolicons/ If you are using MS Internet Exploder, you will not be able to see the bmp images on the html page, and so I put them all in one image below that, just for demo purposes. demot.htm I've tried, but I do not know C++ well enough to place them in a working toolbar. Would anyone be interested in adding this? by grace alone, Don A. Elbourne Jr. http://elbourne.org From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 20:53:43 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:53:43 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: NIV Bible Translation In-Reply-To: <200402041941.i14JfItP004448@ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> References: <200402041941.i14JfItP004448@ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Message-ID: <200402041554.10120.davidslists@gmx.net> On Wednesday 04 February 2004 02:41 pm, Steve Barnhart wrote: > I contacted Zondervan and after them confusing the Sword Project with > e-sword, they said it should not be assumed that there is a NIV module to > be “unlockedâ€, because there isn’t. Of course we know there is one. Anyway > they went on to say that they do not own the copyright but the > International Bible Society does. Now I am confused… Zondervan only handles the copyrights in the United States and they do this on behalf of the IBS. -- --David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver Keeping me (relatively) spam free since 2003 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 21:37:39 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:37:39 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright In-Reply-To: <004701c3eb57$246d70a0$e610150a@us.netiq.corp> References: <004701c3eb57$246d70a0$e610150a@us.netiq.corp> Message-ID: <40216623.1010805@crosswire.org> Troy is already working with Lockman on the NASB95. Chad Uretsky wrote: > I don't know what the task list looks like for the NASB, or what > progress (if any) has been made toward obtaining rights from the Lockman > Foundation to use the NASB. If anyone would care to get approval for > it's use, as a test (my first attempt at working with Sword modules), I > have created an NASB (1995) module for Sword. > > I'd be happy to release it if rights to it were granted by the Lockman > Foundation. > > Does anyone know where this stands? > > Thanks. > > In Christ, > Chad From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 21:50:19 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chad Uretsky) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:50:19 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright References: <004701c3eb57$246d70a0$e610150a@us.netiq.corp> <40216623.1010805@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <007101c3eb68$e22a6060$e610150a@us.netiq.corp> Excellent! If he does manage to get rights, I'm sure my module would work well, as I produced it from their electronic version (unless they made mistakes in their own text :-) ). If it would benefit Sword for any other developers to begin testing it, I will be happy to make it available. In Christ, Chad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Little" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright > Troy is already working with Lockman on the NASB95. > > > Chad Uretsky wrote: > > I don't know what the task list looks like for the NASB, or what > > progress (if any) has been made toward obtaining rights from the Lockman > > Foundation to use the NASB. If anyone would care to get approval for > > it's use, as a test (my first attempt at working with Sword modules), I > > have created an NASB (1995) module for Sword. > > > > I'd be happy to release it if rights to it were granted by the Lockman > > Foundation. > > > > Does anyone know where this stands? > > > > Thanks. > > > > In Christ, > > Chad > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 22:02:21 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Adams) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:02:21 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright In-Reply-To: <007101c3eb68$e22a6060$e610150a@us.netiq.corp> Message-ID: <002a01c3eb6a$90bc5bf0$3c00000a@daninfochi> I know I do not have any defined tests of what to look for in the text, but I am often looking up things for friends and I sometimes find typos that are in the text. In other words, I am saying that I would be a person to help with the testing stuff if it is desired. Dan -----Original Message----- From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org [mailto:sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Chad Uretsky Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:50 PM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright Excellent! If he does manage to get rights, I'm sure my module would work well, as I produced it from their electronic version (unless they made mistakes in their own text :-) ). If it would benefit Sword for any other developers to begin testing it, I will be happy to make it available. In Christ, Chad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Little" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NASB Copyright > Troy is already working with Lockman on the NASB95. > > > Chad Uretsky wrote: > > I don't know what the task list looks like for the NASB, or what > > progress (if any) has been made toward obtaining rights from the > > Lockman Foundation to use the NASB. If anyone would care to get > > approval for it's use, as a test (my first attempt at working with > > Sword modules), I have created an NASB (1995) module for Sword. > > > > I'd be happy to release it if rights to it were granted by the > > Lockman Foundation. > > > > Does anyone know where this stands? > > > > Thanks. > > > > In Christ, > > Chad > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 22:45:39 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hastings) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:45:39 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: NIV Bible Translation In-Reply-To: <200402041941.i14JfItP004448@ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com > References: <200402041941.i14JfItP004448@ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040204154056.020d2eb0@mail.dancris.com> Steve Barnhart wrote: >I contacted Zondervan and after them confusing the Sword Project with >e-sword, they said it should not be assumed that there is a NIV module to >be “unlocked”, because there isn’t. Of course we know there is one. Anyway >they went on to say that they do not own the copyright but the >International Bible Society does. Now I am confused… Zondervan does not own any of the copyrights on it, however, they have the publishing rights for the US. Which means that world wide publishing is going to be a problem. One could get agreements from all the interested parties, but it may be harder than just dealing with a copyright holder. Jerry From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 01:24:25 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (William Thimbleby) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:24:25 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta Message-ID: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> I think I've finally squashed all my bugs. Which worries me slightly as I'm not sure what I've done. :) Anyway for all you mac users out there it'd be really great if you could put the latest version of MacSword 0.4 though it's paces. All feedback welcome, just don't tell me that there are any bugs. :) My aim is to concentrate on writing a comprehensive read-me at the moment. Get it released and then move onto internationalisation, and then the next version. http://www.heathmoor.plus.com/downloads/MacSword0.4beta.dmg Thanks -Will From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 01:43:25 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Casey West) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:43:25 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta In-Reply-To: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> References: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20040205014325.GC21830@geeknest.com> It was Thursday, February 05, 2004 when William Thimbleby took the soap box, saying: : I think I've finally squashed all my bugs. Which worries me slightly as : I'm not sure what I've done. :) Anyway for all you mac users out there : it'd be really great if you could put the latest version of MacSword : 0.4 though it's paces. All feedback welcome, just don't tell me that : there are any bugs. :) Crashed on startup. Below my sig is the crash log. Anything else you need, let me know. Casey West -- We all agree that some kids should not be allowed near sharp (linguistic) tools. The problem is, we don't all agree on who the kids are and how sharp is too sharp. ********** Host: barista.local Date/Time: 2003-12-02 18:10:18 -0500 OS Version: 10.3.1 (Build 7C107) Command: MacSword (/Applications/MacSword.app/Contents/MacOS/MacSword) PID: 660 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x00025c00 in sword::SWMgr::augmentModules(char const*) (swmgr.cpp:621) #1 0x00007554 in -[SwordManager initWithPath:] (SwordManager.mm:99) #2 0x00007ae0 in +[SwordManager initManagersWithPath:] (SwordManager.mm:178) #3 0x000096c0 in -[AppDelegate loadManager] (AppDelegate.m:84) #4 0x000094c4 in -[AppDelegate applicationDidFinishLaunching:] (AppDelegate.m:56) #5 0x909f7804 in _nsnote_callback (_nsnote_callback + 176) #6 0x901aa7f0 in __CFXNotificationPost (__CFXNotificationPost + 436) #7 0x901af200 in _CFXNotificationPostNotification (_CFXNotificationPostNotification + 832) #8 0x909f5650 in -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] (-[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 116) #9 0x92ee362c in -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] (-[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 112) #10 0x92ee3518 in -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] (-[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 92) #11 0x92ee3748 in -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] (-[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 120) #12 0x90a4aa98 in -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] (-[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 356) #13 0x90a5117c in _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler (_NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 120) #14 0x91674af8 in aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) (aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 208) #15 0x91677914 in dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) (dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 44) #16 0x91674d38 in aeProcessAppleEvent (aeProcessAppleEvent + 284) #17 0x928c4290 in AEProcessAppleEvent (AEProcessAppleEvent + 60) #18 0x92dd2c58 in _DPSNextEvent (_DPSNextEvent + 856) #19 0x92de93fc in -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] (-[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116) #20 0x92dfd730 in -[NSApplication run] (-[NSApplication run] + 540) #21 0x92eb9a1c in NSApplicationMain (NSApplicationMain + 464) #22 0x00002d44 in _start (crt.c:267) #23 0x00002bc4 in start (start + 48) PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00025c00 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0x24002222 xer: 0x00000003 lr: 0x00025bf0 ctr: 0x900011c0 r0: 0x00025bf0 r1: 0xbfffe9b0 r2: 0x000027c2 r3: 0x00000000 r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x02825538 r7: 0x00000001 r8: 0x00000001 r9: 0xa00011ac r10: 0x00000d26 r11: 0x00c02004 r12: 0x900011c0 r13: 0x00b67c10 r14: 0x000c0000 r15: 0x000c0000 r16: 0x00b67d10 r17: 0x000c0000 r18: 0x000c0000 r19: 0x000c0000 r20: 0x000c0000 r21: 0x000c0000 r22: 0x00000001 r23: 0x00b683c0 r24: 0x000c0000 r25: 0x000c0000 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x00b681d0 r28: 0x00b681d4 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x00b68170 r31: 0x00025aa8 ********** Host: barista.local Date/Time: 2003-12-02 18:10:41 -0500 OS Version: 10.3.1 (Build 7C107) Command: MacSword (/Applications/MacSword.app/Contents/MacOS/MacSword) PID: 664 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x00025c00 in sword::SWMgr::augmentModules(char const*) (swmgr.cpp:621) #1 0x00007554 in -[SwordManager initWithPath:] (SwordManager.mm:99) #2 0x00007ae0 in +[SwordManager initManagersWithPath:] (SwordManager.mm:178) #3 0x000096c0 in -[AppDelegate loadManager] (AppDelegate.m:84) #4 0x000094c4 in -[AppDelegate applicationDidFinishLaunching:] (AppDelegate.m:56) #5 0x909f7804 in _nsnote_callback (_nsnote_callback + 176) #6 0x901aa7f0 in __CFXNotificationPost (__CFXNotificationPost + 436) #7 0x901af200 in _CFXNotificationPostNotification (_CFXNotificationPostNotification + 832) #8 0x909f5650 in -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] (-[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 116) #9 0x92ee362c in -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] (-[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 112) #10 0x92ee3518 in -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] (-[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 92) #11 0x92ee3748 in -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] (-[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 120) #12 0x90a4aa98 in -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] (-[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 356) #13 0x90a5117c in _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler (_NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 120) #14 0x91674af8 in aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) (aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 208) #15 0x91677914 in dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) (dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 44) #16 0x91674d38 in aeProcessAppleEvent (aeProcessAppleEvent + 284) #17 0x928c4290 in AEProcessAppleEvent (AEProcessAppleEvent + 60) #18 0x92dd2c58 in _DPSNextEvent (_DPSNextEvent + 856) #19 0x92de93fc in -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] (-[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116) #20 0x92dfd730 in -[NSApplication run] (-[NSApplication run] + 540) #21 0x92eb9a1c in NSApplicationMain (NSApplicationMain + 464) #22 0x00002d44 in _start (crt.c:267) #23 0x00002bc4 in start (start + 48) PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00025c00 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0x24002222 xer: 0x00000003 lr: 0x00025bf0 ctr: 0x900011c0 r0: 0x00025bf0 r1: 0xbfffe9b0 r2: 0x000027c1 r3: 0x00000000 r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x02826538 r7: 0x00000001 r8: 0x00000001 r9: 0xa00011ac r10: 0x00000d26 r11: 0x00c02004 r12: 0x900011c0 r13: 0x00b67bf0 r14: 0x000c0000 r15: 0x000c0000 r16: 0x00b67cf0 r17: 0x000c0000 r18: 0x000c0000 r19: 0x000c0000 r20: 0x000c0000 r21: 0x000c0000 r22: 0x00000001 r23: 0x00b683a0 r24: 0x000c0000 r25: 0x000c0000 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x00b681b0 r28: 0x00b681b4 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x00b68150 r31: 0x00025aa8 ********** Host: barista.local Date/Time: 2003-12-02 18:14:41 -0500 OS Version: 10.3.1 (Build 7C107) Command: MacSword (/Applications/MacSword.app/Contents/MacOS/MacSword) PID: 671 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x00025c00 in sword::SWMgr::augmentModules(char const*) (swmgr.cpp:621) #1 0x00007554 in -[SwordManager initWithPath:] (SwordManager.mm:99) #2 0x00007ae0 in +[SwordManager initManagersWithPath:] (SwordManager.mm:178) #3 0x000096c0 in -[AppDelegate loadManager] (AppDelegate.m:84) #4 0x000094c4 in -[AppDelegate applicationDidFinishLaunching:] (AppDelegate.m:56) #5 0x909f7804 in _nsnote_callback (_nsnote_callback + 176) #6 0x901aa7f0 in __CFXNotificationPost (__CFXNotificationPost + 436) #7 0x901af200 in _CFXNotificationPostNotification (_CFXNotificationPostNotification + 832) #8 0x909f5650 in -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] (-[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 116) #9 0x92ee362c in -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] (-[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 112) #10 0x92ee3518 in -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] (-[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 92) #11 0x92ee3748 in -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] (-[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 120) #12 0x90a4aa98 in -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] (-[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 356) #13 0x90a5117c in _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler (_NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 120) #14 0x91674af8 in aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) (aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 208) #15 0x91677914 in dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) (dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 44) #16 0x91674d38 in aeProcessAppleEvent (aeProcessAppleEvent + 284) #17 0x928c4290 in AEProcessAppleEvent (AEProcessAppleEvent + 60) #18 0x92dd2c58 in _DPSNextEvent (_DPSNextEvent + 856) #19 0x92de93fc in -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] (-[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116) #20 0x92dfd730 in -[NSApplication run] (-[NSApplication run] + 540) #21 0x92eb9a1c in NSApplicationMain (NSApplicationMain + 464) #22 0x00002d44 in _start (crt.c:267) #23 0x00002bc4 in start (start + 48) PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00025c00 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 cr: 0x24002222 xer: 0x00000003 lr: 0x00025bf0 ctr: 0x900011c0 r0: 0x00025bf0 r1: 0xbfffe9b0 r2: 0x000027bf r3: 0x00000000 r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x02826538 r7: 0x00000001 r8: 0x00000001 r9: 0xa00011ac r10: 0x00000d24 r11: 0x00c02004 r12: 0x900011c0 r13: 0x00b67b30 r14: 0x000c0000 r15: 0x000c0000 r16: 0x00b67c30 r17: 0x000c0000 r18: 0x000c0000 r19: 0x000c0000 r20: 0x000c0000 r21: 0x000c0000 r22: 0x00000001 r23: 0x00b682e0 r24: 0x000c0000 r25: 0x000c0000 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x00b680f0 r28: 0x00b680f4 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x00b68090 r31: 0x00025aa8 ********** Host Name: barista.local Date/Time: 2004-02-04 20:39:39 -0500 OS Version: 10.3.2 (Build 7D24) Report Version: 2 Command: MacSword Path: /Applications/MacSword.app/Contents/MacOS/MacSword Version: ??? 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0x964e6fff com.apple.JavaScriptCore 1.2 (124) /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/JavaScriptCore.framework/Versions/A/JavaScriptCore 0x968d0000 - 0x969b2fff libicucore.A.dylib /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib 0x96a20000 - 0x96ae2fff libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib 0x96b40000 - 0x96b6efff libssl.0.9.7.dylib /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib 0x96bf0000 - 0x96c7ffff ATS /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS 0x96cb0000 - 0x96d9efff libiconv.2.dylib /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib 0x97b60000 - 0x97d81fff com.apple.WebCore 1.2 (125) /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/WebCore From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 01:54:46 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Casey West) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:54:46 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta In-Reply-To: <20040205014325.GC21830@geeknest.com> References: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> <20040205014325.GC21830@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20040205015446.GD21830@geeknest.com> It was Wednesday, February 04, 2004 when Casey West took the soap box, saying: : It was Thursday, February 05, 2004 when William Thimbleby took the soap box, saying: : : I think I've finally squashed all my bugs. Which worries me slightly as : : I'm not sure what I've done. :) Anyway for all you mac users out there : : it'd be really great if you could put the latest version of MacSword : : 0.4 though it's paces. All feedback welcome, just don't tell me that : : there are any bugs. :) : : Crashed on startup. Below my sig is the crash log. Anything else you : need, let me know. Ack. I sent you an ongoing list of crashes... only the last one is relavent. Sorry about that. : ********** : : Host Name: barista.local : Date/Time: 2004-02-04 20:40:20 -0500 : OS Version: 10.3.2 (Build 7D24) : Report Version: 2 : : Command: MacSword : Path: /Applications/MacSword.app/Contents/MacOS/MacSword : Version: ??? 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I saw just a few issues that need some correction. The >most important is that eID's need a value matching the >preceding >sID on another element. I think this is the only issue that >actually violates the spec. Oops! Sorry about that. I have corrected the error in my source code that did that, and will be uploading updates when I can. (I'm trying not to be envious of broadband Internet connections available all over the USA & other more developed nations.) Of course, this does bring up a question. Should overlapping verses ever be allowed? I would hope not, but the syntax would seem to allow it. Perhaps something should be said in the documentation about that. Actually, the content of sID and eID markers on verse elements are entirely redundant (assuming you don't overlap verses), but someone might actually look at them, so I would rather have them be useful. My intention was to make them the same as the osisID of the first verse of the verse bridge set (which is the only verse in the case of most normal verses), as you suggested. >Aside from that: >The book
elements should have an osisID attribute where you >used >scope. I'll add an osisID attribute to those and leave the scope. Redundancy is obviously not a problem in OSIS. I rather think it is regarded as a virtue. >The code for English is "en". You can use "ENG" in the type="SIL"> element, however. (This isn't yet clear from the manual, >of >course, but I expect the final version of the manual will cover this >area adequately.) I did use "en" for English texts in , but since I am most interested in minority languages without two-letter codes, I'd prefer to stick with the SIL Ethnologue codes wherever practical. For now, "ENG" is good in the language element. The type is supplied, so it is not ambiguous. If I nudge people towards supporting Ethnologue language codes, that would be a good thing. >Various other issues, like the format of the type="OSIS">, >are in flux, and will probably be defined in OSIS 2.1 or the final >manual. (My current best guess at the value >"Bible.en.Rainbow_Ministries.WEB.2004-01-22".) Actually, that should be "Rainbow_Missions" instead of "Rainbow_Ministries" for the publisher name. That is easy to adjust, as it is just a constant in the GBF -> OSIS converter code. >> If you care to alter the marker and quote marks to strictly >> comply >> with the OSIS 2 documentation, then you face the following >> difficulties: >> >> 1. You MUST provide additional information outside of the OSIS >> standard to the users of OSIS text that allows the punctuation to >> be >> EXACTLY recreated as in the original text. The rules of this >> recreation and the exact markers used are different for different >> languages, different dialects, and even for different translations >> within the same dialect. They aren't even the same for all of the >> texts above. If you use the marks in the KJV to generate red >> text, >> that is OK, but if you generate quotation marks, you are changing >> the >> text. The KJV has no quotation marks, nor does the ASV. > >I was sympathetic with this position, since it really does make >conversion from other formats easier, but using is undeniably >better. I still deny that it is better. I remain unconvinced that use of to generate punctuation should be mandatory. Maybe I just don't like computer geeks telling linguists & Bible translators what to do. Maybe I have some valid reasons that you should consider. I do concede that it is good to allow to be used to generate quotation marks where it makes sense -- and in some places it makes lots of sense. I still disagree that it should be mandatory. I might want to use this feature if I were drafting an entirely new translation in OSIS (or something that converted more directly to OSIS, which is more likely), and if I had software in hand to insert the quotation marks the way they should go for this language and style. I still think that once that insertion was done, I would prefer to distribute the resulting text with quotation marks already generated, and tags, if present, serving only to indicate who the speaker was. That way OSIS readers don't have to know all language & style rules pertaining to punctuation for every language (not likely to happen, really), and OSIS doesn't have to be extended to specify all of these rules. >It is true that different language, dialects, and translations use >different standards of placing quotation marks. However, there are >also >plenty of instances when the SAME translation demonstrates different >standards of placing quotation marks, depending on locale, >paragraphing, >and contemporary standards. This is part of why OSIS requires >marking >with rather than typographic quotation marks. This is NOT a benefit. Rather it is a serious defect in OSIS. The reason it is a defect is that there is no way to unambiguously specify how quotation marks must be generated for each language, and if variants are allowed, then how. As a Bible publisher, I don't like this. As a Bible translator, this bothers me. It takes control of the punctuation away from the translators and publishers. It provides more opportunities to make mistakes. Making reliable software is hard enough. As a computer geek, I think it is cool that I could change the way quotation marks are rendered. I could render the NIV in verse list format with quotation mark reminders starting at every verse like the NASB, or render the NASB like the NIV. I could force English punctuation rules on Spanish or Italian, or vice versa. When extracting a scripture passage from the middle of a quotation, punctuation could be adjusted to fit the quotation (i. e. putting quotation marks around one of the Beatitudes when that is all you quote). The first option is great if you ARE the publisher. If you aren't, then I have a gut feeling that it is a good way to further alienate IBS & Zondervan from us. (They consider the poetry & prose formatting a translational issue not to be mucked with by the computer geeks.) The second option is totally without practical merit, and is really a disadvantage. The third option may be useful, but it would be a problem if you extracted adjacent sections of Scripture, then concatenated them. The bottom line is that until I am convinced that proper punctuation will ALWAYS be reconstituted by OSIS-compliant software, and that OSIS itself provides enough information to do that for EVERY language, dialect, and style variant, I will not support this feature of OSIS as a mandatory item, nor will I recommend that anyone else does that. If you want to make it optional, and if you allow me to tag who is making a quotation without generating punctuation, then I would be happy with that. > (Another benefit is >the potential for more richly tagged text, with speaker information.) This can be a benefit, when it is done. It can also be a royal pain to provide, and it isn't worth the effort of doing so for every translation. I suppose that for translations that are close enough to each other (i. e. based on the same source text and not too loosely paraphrased), you could use a clever program to transfer the speaker tags from one translation to another automatically. Better yet, maybe you could just do that as a separate database, and merge the information on demand in the display engine (i. e. in Sword). That would be better, and wouldn't require everyone to tag their Bibles that way. >> 2. If you scan a new Bible text that has correct quotation marks, >> you >> probably won't be able to fully automate conversion from those >> marks >> to markup. >> >> 3. If you fail in doing 1 or 2, above, you may be in violation of >> copyright, trademark, and/or common law. Worse yet, you shift >> responsibility before God from the translators to yourself for the >> accurate transmission of His Word. > >Copyright, trademark, common law, aren't involved, though contract >law >might be (depending on your contract). I beg to differ. Copyright and contract law are combined with the GLW text, in that the text is copyrighted, but you have permission to do pretty much anything reasonable with it for free PROVIDED THAT you don't alter the text. Period. If you change the punctuation, you have altered the text, and therefore have no permission to make copies (beyond whatever "fair use" rights you might have, which are pretty limited these days). With the WEB & HNV, the text is in the Public Domain, but if you use the trademarked names, then you are bound to not alter the text as a condition of using the trademarked names. Otherwise, you have to call it something different. Again, this is a combination of trademark & contract law. In reality, I'm not very likely to sue anyone for screwing up the quotation marks in the GLW text, but I do have the legal right to do so. > Suggesting that you will somehow >have "responsibility before God" (unless you're intentionally >rendering >incorrectly) would be pretty ridiculous and implies that every >typesetter or translator who ever made a mistake while working on a >Bible (probably all of them) will be held responsible for those acts. It would be foolish to not be careful in dealing with God's Word, don't you think? No, I don't think God will strike everyone dead who makes an honest mistake, but I don't want to be one who intentionally mis-handles God's Word or takes it lightly. On the other hand, the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts had no quotation marks. We only put them in translations because the target languages require them. They are derived entirely from the context. In a few cases (especially in the Prophets), it is a judgement call as to where exactly the quotation marks should go. Therefore, I'm not going to make a holy war of this issue. Let your Holy-Spirit-sanctified conscience be your guide. >> The OSIS spec should be changed to allow separation of quotation >> mark >> generation markers from words of Jesus markers. > >We probably won't ever see that, precisely because there already >exists >a way to express this. Sure-- the way I did it. Just change the documentation to say that is OK. Alternatively, you could redefine to always generate punctuation and to never generate punctuation, but allow either to specify who is speaking or writing. Both are milestoneable markers used for approximately the same thing, right now. >There also probably won't ever be anything akin to a note start >anchor, >since it can already be expressed. The first verse of the WEB reads: > >In the beginning type="x-noteStartAnchor" />GodAfter “God,” >the >Hebrew has the two letters “Aleph Tav” (the first and last letters of >the Hebrew alphabet) as a grammatical marker. created the >heavens >and the earth. > >and could instead be encoded with a to indicate the >annotant >of the : ... >or with an osisRef with a grain, to explicitly define the range of >the >annotant: ... Those approaches could work. They are quite contorted to my way of thinking, but you could spend many man-months making it work in OSIS generation, conversion, and display for HTML. Even for print, some printed Bibles use footnote start & end markers. A start marker would be MUCH easier to convert to HTML hyperlinks, don't you think? I'll probably never support those methods you suggest. I even cut corners in that I made no distinction between kinds of notes, because I don't distinguish between them in the source text format (GBF). Maybe if I ever used OSIS for a native Bible text format to start editing in, and if good quality conversions to HTML and other formats already existed, I might. Of course, only a hard-core computer geek would manually edit OSIS Scripture texts (i. e. for a new translation) with nothing but a text editor, so I'll wait to see if anyone generates a Scripture editor that generates OSIS text that is easier to use than the current alternatives. Don't get me wrong. I almost like OSIS. I love the idea of a good Scripture interchange format standard. OSIS seems to have more support than XSEM, and it is XML, unlike USFM, GBF, or the old STEP format. If I were starting from scratch, I would do some things differently, but at this point, I'd rather ride on your octagonal wheel than reinvent a round one. If I seem to whine a bit about it, I'm just trying to get you to round off some of the corners so that my passengers and I can have a smoother ride. Take it for what it is worth... ... I'll let you know when I have the (almost) OSIS texts updated & posted. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) Comment: http://eBible.org/mpj/gpg.htm iD8DBQFAIep0RI/gxxfXR7sRAjhKAKDz8OSB3LtSn85dup7i7L3ye7g45ACfZvfO QHkWqWHkSpSYZsb43+Gf3iA= =KhyB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 10:22:34 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:22:34 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] systemLocaleMgr change Message-ID: <1075976553.1819.10.camel@ekonomikrisis> Hi, I've changed systemLocaleMgr from a static object in the LocaleMgr class to a function. The way it was was potentially unsafe (ok, more than potentially, I was bitten by it) because the order of creation of static objects is unspecified. If you create a static VerseKey then its initialisation uses systemLocaleMgr but there is no guarrantee that systemLocaleMgr has been initialised first. The only thing you have to worry about is that you have to change systemLocaleMgr to systemLocaleMgr() in the source of frontends for 1.5.8 Regards, Daniel P.S. The same issue is there with FileMgr but I can't see anything being static instantiated that uses it or depends on it so I haven't fixed that in this commit. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 10:37:04 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Christian Renz) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:37:04 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta In-Reply-To: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> References: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20040205103704.GA85970@web42.com> Will, I can now double-click a book name again to open a new window (which previously didn't work). However, Unicode still doesn't work for me (Safari 1.2/v125 here) :(. But there are no crashes on my machine. Also, as another suggestion, could you name your betas consecutively? It is a bit confusing to have multiple 0.4.0beta versions around - maybe name them 0.3.9.1, 0.3.9.2 or something like that. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news :) Christian PS. Let me know if you need help on localization. -- crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ "Real theology is always rather shocking to people who already think they know what they think. I'm still shocked myself." -- Larry Wall From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 11:57:26 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (William Thimbleby) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:57:26 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta In-Reply-To: <20040205103704.GA85970@web42.com> References: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> <20040205103704.GA85970@web42.com> Message-ID: <774B680C-57D2-11D8-8AF3-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> Christian, Try the new beta: http://www.heathmoor.plus.com/downloads/MacSword0.4beta2.dmg -Will On 5 Feb 2004, at 10:37, Christian Renz wrote: > Will, > > I can now double-click a book name again to open a new window (which > previously didn't work). However, Unicode still doesn't work for me > (Safari 1.2/v125 here) :(. But there are no crashes on my machine. > Also, as another suggestion, could you name your betas consecutively? > It is a bit confusing to have multiple 0.4.0beta versions around - > maybe name them 0.3.9.1, 0.3.9.2 or something like that. > > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news :) > Christian > > PS. Let me know if you need help on localization. > > -- > crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ > > "Real theology is always rather shocking to people who already think > they know what they think. I'm still shocked myself." -- Larry Wall > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 17:11:55 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hastings) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:11:55 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] OSIS 2.0.1 modules available In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040204175652.02fbb510@127.0.0.1> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20040127100615.03076608@127.0.0.1> <4021000B.1050701@crosswire.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20040204175652.02fbb510@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040205094827.036ec200@mail.dancris.com> At 12:02 AM 2/5/2004, Michael Paul Johnson wrote: >I still deny that it is better. I remain unconvinced that use of >to generate punctuation should be mandatory. Maybe I just don't like >computer geeks telling linguists & Bible translators what to do. Maybe >I have some valid reasons that you should consider. What if the rendering of quote markings was a user option. One option would be to render the markings just as they were in the source/printed document. Or, the user could select a quoting style. This way the linguists & translators would have their say, and the user could either accept them or ignore them if the user so desires. Put another way, the user could be inspired to go with what the linguists & translators provided or the user could be inspired to use one of the options the computer geeks were inspired to provide. On the other hand, we could have some guy be a world wide overseer who would have ultimate authority to determine what quoting method would be correct for each document and we could all submit to him. Jerry From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 19:17:14 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Christian Renz) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:17:14 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta In-Reply-To: <774B680C-57D2-11D8-8AF3-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> References: <08C56665-577A-11D8-93C2-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> <20040205103704.GA85970@web42.com> <774B680C-57D2-11D8-8AF3-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20040205191714.GA72003@web42.com> William, thank you so much. You're really fast! The module text display works fine now (just like it did earlier), but the module info still doesn't show unicode. Also, I forgot to mention something: When I click on the book names and chapter list, they flip open and immediately close again. I can only select a book by entering the name or selecting it with the cursor keys. Once I select the book name, I have to press return twice to show the book. Same goes for chapter. Greetings, Christian -- crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ "A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -- C.S. Lewis From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 21:50:12 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:50:12 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 Message-ID: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I uploaded two new modules into the beta section. 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation which definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the data to me said the translation is out of copyright. 2. Jubilee2000, english translation. Permissions granted as far as I know. Was discussed on sword-devel some months ago. I hope the modules work for everybody, Joachim - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIrqUEyRIb2AZBB0RAg/UAJoD6i0rrXSPcX9XBaleJ/3pOhFSBQCgnN0+ w4dVXYdEesMyKs+zYZfYWTU= =zemr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 22:00:31 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hugo van der Kooij) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:00:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation which > definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the data to me > said the translation is out of copyright. Is there a way to verify this? Hugo. -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 22:13:05 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:13:05 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> Message-ID: <200402052313.11024.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation > > which definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the > > data to me said the translation is out of copyright. > > Is there a way to verify this? We could ask the US copyright office beacuse the author was US citizen to my knowledge. The person who send the text to me is Eric Podico, he forwarded an eMail which had information collected by somebody else about the module's copyright. But he said to send me something written so I can be sure about the copyright. Joachim - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIr/1EyRIb2AZBB0RAsEQAJ9SqF5PwC2l4Tu5M1J4AFFQ0P7ncQCeOszt T6Xb0g25o3HCLbuN2/e29kE= =PdE9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 22:34:01 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 17:34:01 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> Message-ID: <200402051734.02890.davidslists@gmx.net> On Thursday 05 February 2004 04:50 pm, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation > which definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the > data to me said the translation is out of copyright. My German is very minimal at this point, any particular reason it belongs in the Cult section? -- --David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver Keeping me (relatively) spam free since 2003 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 22:37:31 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hugo van der Kooij) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:37:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402052313.11024.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> <200402052313.11024.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > > > 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation > > > which definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the > > > data to me said the translation is out of copyright. > > > > Is there a way to verify this? > > We could ask the US copyright office beacuse the author was US citizen to my > knowledge. The person who send the text to me is Eric Podico, he forwarded an > eMail which had information collected by somebody else about the module's > copyright. But he said to send me something written so I can be sure about > the copyright. I think the paper statement will do just fine. (At least in my opinion.) Hugo. -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 22:47:42 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:47:42 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402051734.02890.davidslists@gmx.net> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> <200402051734.02890.davidslists@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200402052347.44814.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The author was a cathalic who is also author or "Verkehr mit der Geisterwelt Gottes" which is in english "Contact with the spirit world of God" and the book was written at the instigation of an Arch angel (this is in the title of the book). I had a short look into the book and it's full of spiritism. So his Bible translation belongs into Cults, too. Joachim > On Thursday 05 February 2004 04:50 pm, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > > 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation > > which definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the > > data to me said the translation is out of copyright. > > My German is very minimal at this point, any particular reason it belongs > in the Cult section? - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIsgOEyRIb2AZBB0RAvdyAKCEKWdYsRLDfnR2diLetL1VZ86TtQCgrrJt fICmfvr4zEhCvbDgqPg/cZc= =w28T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 5 23:18:04 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:18:04 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] OSIS 2.0.1 modules available In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040204175652.02fbb510@127.0.0.1> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20040127100615.03076608@127.0.0.1> <4021000B.1050701@crosswire.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20040204175652.02fbb510@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <4022CF2C.3090006@crosswire.org> Michael Paul Johnson wrote: >>Looks good. I saw just a few issues that need some correction. The >>most important is that eID's need a value matching the >>preceding >>sID on another element. I think this is the only issue that >>actually violates the spec. > > Oops! Sorry about that. I have corrected the error in my source code > that did that, and will be uploading updates when I can. (I'm trying > not to be envious of broadband Internet connections available all over > the USA & other more developed nations.) Don't be envious of me, all I have is 9.6kbps, at the moment. :) > Of course, this does bring up a question. Should overlapping verses > ever be allowed? I would hope not, but the syntax would seem to allow > it. Perhaps something should be said in the documentation about that. > Actually, the content of sID and eID markers on verse elements are > entirely redundant (assuming you don't overlap verses), but someone > might actually look at them, so I would rather have them be useful. My > intention was to make them the same as the osisID of the first verse > of the verse bridge set (which is the only verse in the case of most > normal verses), as you suggested. In most cases, you won't have overlapping verses. However, if you mark multiple versification schemes in a single document, you can have overlapping verse containers. There may even be some cases where you find verses embedded within other verses, in the deuterocanonicals, depending on how you do translation. >>Aside from that: >>The book
elements should have an osisID attribute where you >>used >>scope. > > I'll add an osisID attribute to those and leave the scope. Redundancy > is obviously not a problem in OSIS. I rather think it is regarded as a > virtue. scope and the osisID mean slightly different things (though both would be accurate in this case). So it's not exactly redundancy (which is not regarded a virtue) but verbosity (which might be :). >>The code for English is "en". You can use "ENG" in the >type="SIL"> element, however. (This isn't yet clear from the manual, >>of >>course, but I expect the final version of the manual will cover this >>area adequately.) > > > I did use "en" for English texts in osisRefWork="Bible" xml:lang="en">, but since I am most interested in > minority languages without two-letter codes, I'd prefer to stick with > the SIL Ethnologue codes wherever practical. For now, "ENG" is good in > the language element. The type is supplied, so it is not ambiguous. If > I nudge people towards supporting Ethnologue language codes, that > would be a good thing. I saw an "x-SIL-ENG" in the element of the WEB. I'd like to release a nice, complete (at least for the language portion of the code) list of what code to use for which language by the time we have OSIS 2.1 ready. If everyone kind of sticks to that, we'll all be speaking the same language. Since SIL (and maybe LINGUIST) codes are being adopted into ISO, the whole issue should go away relatively soon. >>Various other issues, like the format of the >type="OSIS">, >>are in flux, and will probably be defined in OSIS 2.1 or the final >>manual. (My current best guess at the value >>"Bible.en.Rainbow_Ministries.WEB.2004-01-22".) > > > Actually, that should be "Rainbow_Missions" instead of > "Rainbow_Ministries" for the publisher name. That is easy to adjust, > as it is just a constant in the GBF -> OSIS converter code. Sorry, my mistake. But again... this format is not set in stone yet. >>>If you care to alter the marker and quote marks to strictly >>>comply >>>with the OSIS 2 documentation, then you face the following >>>difficulties: >>> >>>1. You MUST provide additional information outside of the OSIS >>>standard to the users of OSIS text that allows the punctuation to >>>be >>>EXACTLY recreated as in the original text. The rules of this >>>recreation and the exact markers used are different for different >>>languages, different dialects, and even for different translations >>>within the same dialect. They aren't even the same for all of the >>>texts above. If you use the marks in the KJV to generate red >>>text, >>>that is OK, but if you generate quotation marks, you are changing >>>the >>>text. The KJV has no quotation marks, nor does the ASV. >> >>I was sympathetic with this position, since it really does make >>conversion from other formats easier, but using is undeniably >>better. > > > I still deny that it is better. I remain unconvinced that use of > to generate punctuation should be mandatory. Maybe I just don't like > computer geeks telling linguists & Bible translators what to do. Maybe > I have some valid reasons that you should consider. > > I do concede that it is good to allow to be used to generate > quotation marks where it makes sense -- and in some places it makes > lots of sense. I still disagree that it should be mandatory. I might > want to use this feature if I were drafting an entirely new > translation in OSIS (or something that converted more directly to > OSIS, which is more likely), and if I had software in hand to insert > the quotation marks the way they should go for this language and > style. I still think that once that insertion was done, I would prefer > to distribute the resulting text with quotation marks already > generated, and tags, if present, serving only to indicate who the > speaker was. That way OSIS readers don't have to know all language & > style rules pertaining to punctuation for every language (not likely > to happen, really), and OSIS doesn't have to be extended to specify > all of these rules. I think most of us who've worked on the standard are only part-time computer geeks. We manage to pack an unusually high percentage of linguists and people who work in translation into the room when we talk about this stuff. (I don't know that he have any translators, but we have translation checkers from UBS, folks from IPUB at SIL, and such.) Using typographic quotes isn't invalid. It just fails to meet one of the lower levels of conformance. > Of course, only a hard-core computer geek would manually edit > OSIS Scripture texts (i. e. for a new translation) with nothing but a > text editor, so I'll wait to see if anyone generates a Scripture > editor that generates OSIS text that is easier to use than the current > alternatives. There's going to be an MS Word 2003-based OSIS export facility (developed by CCEL). Also, an upcoming version of Paratext should support OSIS export (and notably, should support at least some degree of note type specification, since USFM has the facility for that). --Chris From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 00:03:45 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:03:45 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew Unicode Conversion Message-ID: <4022D9E1.5050807@crosswire.org> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/nasec/ Hey guys. Looking for a chart or some source to convert these tables to their unicode values. Any help would be appreciated. -Troy. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 00:31:46 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Michael Paul Johnson) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:31:46 +1000 Subject: [sword-devel] OSIS 2.0.1 modules available In-Reply-To: <4022CF2C.3090006@crosswire.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20040127100615.03076608@127.0.0.1> <4021000B.1050701@crosswire.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20040204175652.02fbb510@127.0.0.1> <4022CF2C.3090006@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040206101020.0325dec0@127.0.0.1> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 09:18 06-02-04, Chris Little wrote: >Michael Paul Johnson wrote: ... >> Of course, this does bring up a question. Should overlapping verses >> ever be allowed? I would hope not, but the syntax would seem to >> allow >> it. Perhaps something should be said in the documentation about >> that. >> Actually, the content of sID and eID markers on verse elements are >> entirely redundant (assuming you don't overlap verses), but someone >> might actually look at them, so I would rather have them be useful. >> My >> intention was to make them the same as the osisID of the first >> verse >> of the verse bridge set (which is the only verse in the case of >> most >> normal verses), as you suggested. > >In most cases, you won't have overlapping verses. However, if you >mark >multiple versification schemes in a single document, you can have >overlapping verse containers. There may even be some cases where you >find verses embedded within other verses, in the deuterocanonicals, >depending on how you do translation. Interesting... 3 John 14-15 is a good example of an overlap between two schemes. (Check the NIV vs. the CEV, for example.) I had thought that the way to do that was to just choose one scheme per translation, and then use an external mapping back to and from a "standard" scheme to facilitate synchronized viewing of multiple translations. For example, if I selected 3 John 15 in the CEV (or NRSV, or UBS4 Greek NT, etc.), I would expect to see 3 John 14 in parallel windows showing the KJV, ASV, WEB, etc. The last part of verse 14 should be the same as verse 15, in this case. Most of the time, the variant schemes are the same (or maybe off by one in the case of some Hebrew verse numbering in the Psalms), so it would probably be easier to stick with an external versification scheme. I guess this is an area that could use some more clarification in OSIS. >I saw an "x-SIL-ENG" in the element of the WEB. I'd like >to >release a nice, complete (at least for the language portion of the >code) >list of what code to use for which language by the time we have OSIS >2.1 >ready. If everyone kind of sticks to that, we'll all be speaking the >same language. > >Since SIL (and maybe LINGUIST) codes are being adopted into ISO, the >whole issue should go away relatively soon. "Complete" is the key word. >I think most of us who've worked on the standard are only part-time >computer geeks. We manage to pack an unusually high percentage of >linguists and people who work in translation into the room when we >talk >about this stuff. (I don't know that he have any translators, but we >have translation checkers from UBS, folks from IPUB at SIL, and >such.) I live, work, and breathe Bible translation in a field setting in Papua New Guinea. Perhaps that colors my perception of things. I rather hope it does. >Using typographic quotes isn't invalid. It just fails to meet one of >the lower levels of conformance. Great. I need to be a nonconformist, here. It would be nice if I felt like I could fully support the OSIS standard, and if I could regard higher level of conformance as better, but I don't right now. >> Of course, only a hard-core computer geek would manually edit >> OSIS Scripture texts (i. e. for a new translation) with nothing but >> a >> text editor, so I'll wait to see if anyone generates a Scripture >> editor that generates OSIS text that is easier to use than the >> current >> alternatives. > >There's going to be an MS Word 2003-based OSIS export facility >(developed by CCEL). Also, an upcoming version of Paratext should >support OSIS export (and notably, should support at least some degree >of >note type specification, since USFM has the facility for that). I look forward to testing those, and if they work well enough, helping people here put them into practice. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) Comment: http://eBible.org/mpj/gpg.htm iD8DBQFAIuBxRI/gxxfXR7sRAnolAKDgQ4gju5BKfZq3kivMjjJ3UThnGACdEZKf bJvAlMo50pG6eM93dYWOQPs= =mlQ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 13:35:14 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (sword-devel@crosswire.org) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:35:14 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Gnome Sword Seg. Fault Message-ID: <28b02228727c.28727c28b022@columbus.rr.com> Hello everyone. I am having trouble getting gnomesword 2 to work. I wasusing the Fedora core 1 rpms from here: http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/software/sword.html and after gnomeswordinstalls (even bibletime after a few runs), I get a segmentation faulteverytime. The debugging symbols from bug buddy are attached...hope wecan fix this! Steve From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 14:12:38 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Griswold) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 09:12:38 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Gnome Sword Seg. Fault In-Reply-To: <28b02228727c.28727c28b022@columbus.rr.com> (sbarnhart@neo.rr.com's message of "Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:35:14 -0500") References: <28b02228727c.28727c28b022@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <87brocuwix.fsf@cantor.griswold.home> I, too, have found it buggy of late. Regretably, I don't get error messages sufficient to help me track down the problem. But I can run it, as it doesn't die right away. Dan -- _______________________________ /\ \ \_| Dan Griswold | | dgriswol@rochester.rr.com | | __________________________|_ \_/____________________________/ From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 14:34:11 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (sword-devel@crosswire.org) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 09:34:11 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Gnome Sword Seg. Fault Message-ID: <28e7c828ebfc.28ebfc28e7c8@columbus.rr.com> Sorry about that for some reason they didn't attach. Here's what i have tried (these are all rpms): reinstall sword and gnomesword delete .gnomesword (or whatever it is) directory Debugging Information: Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/gnomesword2' (no debugging symbols found)...Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". (no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1084652896 (LWP 17627)] 0x00a7bc32 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 #0 0x00a7bc32 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 #1 0x00d27963 in __waitpid_nocancel () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 #2 0x0087d7f4 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #3 #4 0x00b08b50 in strcpy () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #5 0x08074ec9 in gui_add_history_Item () #6 0x08072fd6 in frontend_display () #7 0x08090fbb in main () Thread 1 (Thread -1084652896 (LWP 17627)): #0 0x00a7bc32 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 No symbol table info available. #1 0x00d27963 in __waitpid_nocancel () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #2 0x0087d7f4 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #3 No symbol table info available. #4 0x00b08b50 in strcpy () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #5 0x08074ec9 in gui_add_history_Item () No symbol table info available. #6 0x08072fd6 in frontend_display () No symbol table info available. #7 0x08090fbb in main () No symbol table info available. #0 0x00a7bc32 in _dl_sysinfo_int80 () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Griswold Date: Friday, February 6, 2004 9:12 am Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Gnome Sword Seg. Fault > I, too, have found it buggy of late. Regretably, I don't get error > messages sufficient to help me track down the problem. But I can run > it, as it doesn't die right away. > > Dan > > -- > _______________________________ > /\ \ > \_| Dan Griswold | > | dgriswol@rochester.rr.com | > | __________________________|_ > \_/____________________________/ > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 14:50:09 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Andy Piper) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:50:09 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Gnome Sword Seg. Fault References: <28e7c828ebfc.28ebfc28e7c8@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <4023a9a15a47c0.45568685@freeuk.com> sbarnhart wrote: > Debugging Information: > > Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/gnomesword2' > [snip] > #4 0x00b08b50 in strcpy () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 > #5 0x08074ec9 in gui_add_history_Item () > #6 0x08072fd6 in frontend_display () > #7 0x08090fbb in main () This is the infamous "history bug". It is fixed in our CVS version (which also has a module manager and tabbed passage browsing as bonus features). If you can't use the CVS version for any reason... I've been meaning to make a 2.0.1 release available to fix this issue as it is our #1 reported bug about the 2.0 version, but I've had problems with my workstation at home (overheating Athlon...). No ETA for releasing the bugfix version yet, sorry. BTW, you may want to subscribe to the gnomesword-users and / or gnomesword-devel lists. Andy -- Andy Piper - Farnborough, Hampshire (UK) andy.piper@freeuk.com http://www.andypiper.co.uk/ From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 16:04:49 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Eeli Kaikkonen) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:04:49 +0200 Subject: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew Unicode Conversion In-Reply-To: <4022D9E1.5050807@crosswire.org> References: <4022D9E1.5050807@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <200402061804.49427.eekaikko@mail.student.oulu.fi> On Friday 06 February 2004 02:03, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > http://crosswire.org/~scribe/nasec/ > > > Hey guys. Looking for a chart or some source to convert these tables to > their unicode values. Any help would be appreciated. I don't know what you mean exactly, because I think that everyone here knows about unicode charts already: http://www.unicode.org/charts . But if this is what you need, then there you are. Eeli Kaikkonen From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 16:29:39 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Christian Renz) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:29:39 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew Unicode Conversion In-Reply-To: <4022D9E1.5050807@crosswire.org> References: <4022D9E1.5050807@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <20040206162939.GA10691@web42.com> Troy, seems that Antioch is able to convert a least the greek stuff, if you have Word and Antioch: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/biblical-languages/2001-November/000306.html Greetings, Christian -- crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ "It's so much easier to pray for a bore than to go and see one." -- C.S. Lewis From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 16:37:23 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:37:23 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Greek/Hebrew Unicode Conversion In-Reply-To: <200402061804.49427.eekaikko@mail.student.oulu.fi> References: <4022D9E1.5050807@crosswire.org> <200402061804.49427.eekaikko@mail.student.oulu.fi> Message-ID: <1076085442.1817.2207.camel@ekonomikrisis> For this you probably want to use TECKit http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&cat_id=TECkit Haven't tried it myself but I know someone that has used it to convert from legacy fonts to unicode. Regards, Daniel On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:04, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > On Friday 06 February 2004 02:03, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > http://crosswire.org/~scribe/nasec/ > > > > > > Hey guys. Looking for a chart or some source to convert these tables to > > their unicode values. Any help would be appreciated. > > I don't know what you mean exactly, because I think that everyone here knows > about unicode charts already: http://www.unicode.org/charts . But if this is > what you need, then there you are. > > Eeli Kaikkonen > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 16:41:55 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (William Thimbleby) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:41:55 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] MacSword Beta 3 and sword changes Message-ID: <5FEA5801-58C3-11D8-8AF3-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> Right fixed Casey's bug now (I think). Some classes such as rawstr make use of a short buffer for file paths. I've converted all the relevant ones to SWBuf. Is this the best way to do this the rawgenbook makes use of a char buffer it creates itself. A standard way of doing this is probably a good idea, then it can be committed to CVS. http://www.heathmoor.plus.com/downloads/MacSword0.4beta3.dmg Christian: can you expand on your problems opening the book/chapter pop-ups, I've never heard of this or seen any problems. Cheers -Will From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 6 19:23:56 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 12:23:56 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] sword changes and 1.5.8 In-Reply-To: <5FEA5801-58C3-11D8-8AF3-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> References: <5FEA5801-58C3-11D8-8AF3-003065B2931A@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4023E9CC.4020301@crosswire.org> Ugh. Sorry 'bout that. Horrible code. Right, now that we have SWBuf, we sould probably just do something like: SWBuf buf; buf = path; buf += ".idx"; ... or buf = ""; buf.appendFormatted("%s.idx", path); the second looks more like the existing code, but the first is probably faster. You're welcome to commit your changes. If we're just storing a char *, which isn't to be manipulated (like path in the above code), we have a library of standard string functions. stdstr(&path, "value") will delete the pointer if it is not null, allocate the necessary space, then copy "value" to the string. You can call stdstr to change the value of char * pointers all you'd like, but at the end of the day, you'll have to, eg. delete [] path in your d-tor. Hope that helps. Thanks for tracking this down! Oh, one more thing. Per Daniel's discovery of static initialization ambiguities, we're planning to change access to our 3 major system statics to a common get/set interface: systemFileMgr systemLog systemLocaleMgr will all be like: SWLog::setSystemLog(new MyMacintoshOSXDialogBoxSWLog()); SWLog::getSystemLog()->logError("You have not installed any books!"); currently you have to: delete SWLog::systemLog; SWLog::systemLog = new MyMacintoshOSXDialogBoxSWLog(); SWLog::systemLog->logError("You have not installed any books!"); Changing it to a property syntax with normal get/set names allows us to be sure the statics are ready to be used before they are accessed by the API client. All this to say. We hope to have a 1.5.8 release out shortly with these minory API changes, and it would be nice to have your new release work against it. (shortly = likely, 1-2 weeks) -Troy. William Thimbleby wrote: > Right fixed Casey's bug now (I think). Some classes such as rawstr make > use of a short buffer for file paths. I've converted all the relevant > ones to SWBuf. Is this the best way to do this the rawgenbook makes use > of a char buffer it creates itself. A standard way of doing this is > probably a good idea, then it can be committed to CVS. > > http://www.heathmoor.plus.com/downloads/MacSword0.4beta3.dmg > > Christian: can you expand on your problems opening the book/chapter > pop-ups, I've never heard of this or seen any problems. > > Cheers -Will > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 7 02:09:17 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (William Thimbleby) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 02:09:17 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Final MacSword beta :) Message-ID: Well. I hope anyway. Sorry to keep bugging you guys with new betas, but I thought I'd take the majority of these last two days to get it all finished. I've polished a few edges a removed a couple of small bugs. The main new feature is that it now includes help. Which I've just finished hacking out. Feedback is most welcome. Here it is: http://www.heathmoor.plus.com/downloads/MacSword0.4beta4.dmg -enjoy Will From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 7 04:06:15 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Christian Renz) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 05:06:15 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Final MacSword beta :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040207040615.GA56318@web42.com> Will, the (About) section of the modules is still not displayed correctly (Unicode doesn't work), the rest is fine. Regarding my problems with the drop-down boxes: I found out it only happens when I use my Wacom pad. Using my PowerBook's trackpad, everything is fine. It's still weird since it doesn't happen with any other application, but I guess it's nothing serious. Greetings, Christian -- crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ "The computer should be doing the hard work. That's what it's paid to do, after all." -- Larry Wall From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 7 04:22:22 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Christian Renz) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 05:22:22 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Final MacSword beta :) In-Reply-To: <20040207040615.GA56318@web42.com> References: <20040207040615.GA56318@web42.com> Message-ID: <20040207042222.GA63492@web42.com> Correction: It _does_ happen in other apps as well. I confused the combo box with another UI element. Sorry :). -- crenz@web42.com - http://www.web42.com/crenz/ - http://www.web42.com/ "We don't think that televisions and personal computers are going to merge. We think basically you watch television to turn your brain off, and you work on your computer when you want to turn your brain on." -- Steve Jobs From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 7 21:47:34 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (sword-devel@crosswire.org) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 16:47:34 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 Message-ID: <26918248D0F94E4698F3CD807F90F28F01BD82@exch.connections.com> ----=_RS_04038165338089_1076190818089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message While the Jubilee Bible 2000 is copyrighted, we have permission from the co= pyright holder to make this Bible into a SWORD module. I still have the e-= mail (which is in the sword-devel archives) from Russell Stendal stating re= asons for the copyright and giving the development team the go-ahead. jth=20 -----Original Message----- From: sword-devel-admin@crosswire.org on behalf of Joachim Ansorg Sent: Thu 05-Feb-04 12:50 To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 =20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I uploaded two new modules into the beta section. 1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation wh= ich=20 definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the data to m= e=20 said the translation is out of copyright. 2. Jubilee2000, english translation. Permissions granted as far as I know. = Was=20 discussed on sword-devel some months ago. I hope the modules work for everybody, Joachim ----=_RS_04038165338089_1076190818089 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Untitled While the Jubilee Bible 2000 is copyrighted, we have permission from the co= pyright holder to make this Bible into a SWORD module. I still have the e-= mail (which is in the sword-devel archives) from Russell Stendal stating re= asons for the copyright and giving the development team the go-ahead.
jth




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I uploaded two new modules into the beta section.
1. GerGrebber1936, an NT only module. This is a German Bible translation w= hich
definitely belongs into the Cult section. The person who sent the = data to me
said the translation is out of copyright.
2. Jubilee2000,= english translation. Permissions granted as far as I know. Was
discuss= ed on sword-devel some months ago.

I hope the modules work for every= body,
Joachim

----=_RS_04038165338089_1076190818089-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 7 22:34:32 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Sveinung Kvilhaugsvik) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 23:34:32 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 4 questions Message-ID: <1076193270.14533.1758.camel@localhost> Hello! I have been using SWORD for a while, but I have some problems getting modules for it. (The companyes that have the rights will not sell me a SWORDmodule) So, insted of giving up, I and a friend are considering creating a company selling sutch modules, and also SWORDsoftware together on a CD. (now those companyes at least let us talk to the right people) I have some questions about SWORD, and I hope you can help me... (Yes, I have been looking arround the webpage, but it was stuff I just could not find. You dont have to answer all the questions at once, I just found it practical to place all in one mail. Hope it is the correct list, and sorry about my spellling...) 1) Encryption/Locked modules How does the system work? Is it possible to encrypt modules that we sell, and give the buyers a key? 2) Translation (UI) We would like to translate the frontends we are using. For Bibletime, it seems trivial, but how does this work for other UI's (we are currently only interested in Bibletime, GnomeSWORD and "The SWORD Project for Windows, since we don't have other hardware to test on)? Do they support gettext to? (If no localisationcode exists, will you be intrested if we write it?) 3) "GPL-blockers" in packages stopping commersial distrubution Is there anything in the frontends or in the libary that blocks commersial distribution? And what? (The copyright for every module is in the configfile, we know, so we are only asking for the frontends mentioned above) 4) What are the rules to publish modules here? (the "for free"-part we are avare of) How famous must the author be, and is that in general, or only for those speaking the language the module is for? What licensing is requred? (In case those distribuating the modules are realy cooperative, and will allow you to publish them as well) 5) The bible module "Norsk Bibelen" contain some errors in the configuration file's info. Firs of all, the name is bad norwegian, and it almoust infrigments the trademark of norwegian biblecompany ("Norsk Bibel", not the ones publishing this bible). The bible you got is translated by "Det norske bibelselskap", or shorter "Bibelselskapet" in 1930, and is usually just called "1930 utgaven". "Det norske bibelselskap's oversettelse av 1930" I think would be the most correct, but it is to long. Other used names is "DNB 1930", "Bibelselskapet's 1930 utgave" etc. (often in Norway, a translation is named by the year it was translated, mabe also with the company's name + the year) If you need other name-suggestions, I'm at youre service... Secund, it is not public domain any longer. Norwegian copyrightlaw has changed, so it is still copyrighted, at least in Norway. However, I have heard that non-commersiall distribution is legal (I can check it with them if you want me to) Sincerly Sveinung Kvilhaugsvik From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 7 23:01:41 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hugo van der Kooij) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 00:01:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [sword-devel] 4 questions In-Reply-To: <1076193270.14533.1758.camel@localhost> References: <1076193270.14533.1758.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Sveinung Kvilhaugsvik wrote: > 2) Translation (UI) > We would like to translate the frontends we are using. For Bibletime, it > seems trivial, but how does this work for other UI's (we are currently > only interested in Bibletime, GnomeSWORD and "The SWORD Project for > Windows, since we don't have other hardware to test on)? Do they support > gettext to? (If no localisationcode exists, will you be intrested if we > write it?) GnomeSword uses gettext. I am working on a Dutch translation of GnomeSword which is by now past halfway. But gnomesword development takes place on the gnomesword development mailinglist (and IRC in some part) and may escape attention here alltogether. > 3) "GPL-blockers" in packages stopping commersial distrubution > Is there anything in the frontends or in the libary that blocks > commersial distribution? And what? (The copyright for every module is in > the configfile, we know, so we are only asking for the frontends > mentioned above) As far as I know you can ship GPL programs on a CD with copyrighted and payed modules as long it is clear that these programs are just there as a courtesy to the reader. But I am not a lawyer and I think you need to consult one on this subject. Hugo. -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 3 13:50:39 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (xm0use) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:50:39 +1100 Subject: [sword-devel] help please Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C3EAB8.E8863F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, do you have a bible bot for mirc? thank you very much ben. ________________________________________ www.reuel.com.au ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C3EAB8.E8863F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi, do you have a bible bot for = mirc?
thank you=20 very much
ben.
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= ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C3EAB8.E8863F20-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 4 18:26:32 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Minh Nguyen) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:26:32 +0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: Beyond impressed by mvnForum References: <001c01c3e3ea$57b9c270$0200a8c0@k2> Message-ID: <001001c3eb4c$99f0c1c0$4115f5d2@minh> Hi all, I am very glad that you found mvnForum is useful, and I believe your support will make mvnForum better and better. Regards, Minh Nguyen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Allan" To: "Chris Little" ; Cc: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: Beyond impressed by mvnForum > Hi Chris and sword-develop'ers, > > Bluntly, I was initially concerned about some of the features offered by > mvnForum, and whether it was mature software or not. > > Just as a check, I posted a question about whether mvnForum can match the > Macromedia FuseTalk capability to: > "Report This To Moderator" > as a feature that can alleviate the amount of "spam/scams" showing up in a > forum. > > I'm definitely ignorant about what is the norm for modern forum software, > but I was pessimistic about the answer: > > * Within hours had response that answer is YES > > * Inadvertantly got answer that very desireable feature for "activity on > watched post generates eMail" is implemented > > * Inadvertantly get answer that totally unexpected but very desireable > feature for "allow edit on previous post by author" is implemented. > > I'm beyond impressed! I have a feeling that the more a person uses mvnForum, > the more "goodies" will turn up. "Aweful" in the 1611 sense :-) > > For His glory and honor, > Lynn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:46 PM > Subject: [mvnForum] - Mail update from Jan 24, 2004 7:37:59 PM to Jan 26, > 2004 4:46:00 AM > > > > mvnForum Watch Summary > > New Threads since: Jan 24, 2004 7:37:59 PM > > Compiled at: Jan 26, 2004 4:46:00 AM > > --------------------------------------- > > For the latest Forum updates, visit : > http://www.mvnForum.com/mvnforum/index > > --------------------------------------- > > [Category: mvnForum] [Forum: Feature Suggestions] > > Thread [Does mvnForum have "Report This To Moderator" > feature?] given to us by jr_scribbler > > last posted by sdstx.de on Jan 26, 2004 4:10:08 AM > > http://www.mvnForum.com/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=1604 > > > > > > > > > > > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 9 21:35:35 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Richard & Kristi Guay) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:35:35 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Swig and Diatheke Message-ID: <4027B6D7.26645.1EB80D@localhost> --Message-Boundary-19641 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-description: Attachment information. 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I have attached the command line for compiling and the output from the command line given. I have never used swig bindings before, so this is new to me. Also, does diatheke access generic books? Thanks for your help. Richard Guay From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 9 21:35:34 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Richard & Kristi Guay) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:35:34 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Swig and Diatheke Message-ID: <4027B6D6.935.1EB611@localhost> --Message-Boundary-1821 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-description: Attachment information. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. 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H. Walther) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:09:25 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402051734.02890.davidslists@gmx.net> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> <200402051734.02890.davidslists@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200402100109.25532.K.Walther@christen.net> Hello Am Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2004 23:34 schrieb David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver: > My German is very minimal at this point, any particular reason it belongs > in the Cult section? I found a web-page (in German) with an Introduction (written by Greben himself) to the New Testament translated by Johannes Greber ("Einleitung zum Neuen Testament nach der Übersetzung von Johannes Greber") http://www.gott-und-christus.de/greberbibel.htm Greber "proofs" that the New Testament is *not* inspired by God (exept of the Revelation). And a lot of mistakes should have been made copying the books of the Bible (Old and New Testament). But spirits of God revealed him the correct greek text, which he translated into German. Yes, it belongs in the Cult section :-( Shalom, Klaus From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 04:27:35 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:27:35 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Help Wanted Message-ID: <40285DB7.7040704@crosswire.org> Just a reminder for the newcomers: Our current todo list is at: http://crosswire.org/ucgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/SWORDTodo From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 05:02:01 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Michael Paul Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:02:01 +1000 Subject: [sword-devel] OSIS 2.0.1 modules updated Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040210144310.030669a0@pop3.sil.org.pg> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 American Standard Version http://eBible.org/asv/asvosis.zip God's Living Word http://eBible.org/glw/glwosis.zip Hebrew Names Version http://eBible.org/hnv/hnvosis.zip King James Version http://eBible.org/kjv/kjvosis.zip Melanesian Pidgin http://eBible.org/pdg/TokPisinOSIS.zip World English Bible http://eBible.org/web/webosis.zip GBF to OSIS conversion program (LGPL or CPL open source) with source code is at http://ebt.cx/translation/gbf.htm. Changes: Corrected verse end eID to match its corresponding sID. Corrected scope element processing in gbf2osis converter (and therefore in GLW & WEB texts). Removed Apocrypha from HNV. WEB & HNV updates reflect continued editing of those texts. Added more useful revision status comments to the OSIS files. We have no plans to support the use of replacing typographic quote characters for any of our uses of OSIS, because the current standard provides no way to ensure that the generated punctuation would be correct for each translation and language. The OSIS standard should represent the Bible text, not change it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) Comment: http://eBible.org/mpj/gpg.htm iD8DBQFAKGWzRI/gxxfXR7sRAlyUAJsF/OWo6VpjcMUqWY0jTgWDQ1DYwwCgl3V3 dKL3YBNiVFD9udly+tXjbbg= =6tK/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 10:20:38 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:20:38 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Swig and Diatheke In-Reply-To: <4027B6D7.8292.1EB9BE@localhost> References: <4027B6D7.8292.1EB9BE@localhost> Message-ID: <200402101120.45069.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I will have a look. It works well with Perl, I have not tried yet to make it work with Python. Joachim > Hi, > > Has anyone gotten the Sword libraries to compile with Python? I am > trying to use the swig bindings to compile for python, but have not > been able to get it to work. I have attached the command line for > compiling and the output from the command line given. I have never > used swig bindings before, so this is new to me. > > Also, does diatheke access generic books? Thanks for your help. > > Richard Guay > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKLB7EyRIb2AZBB0RArUQAJ9stJaxNMc/20DusK0zJ/THyaWdxgCePjjB dpmP6uhwEWAjcxpDPK6uuL0= =Q9mr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 12:13:38 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:13:38 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Swig and Diatheke In-Reply-To: <4027B6D7.8292.1EB9BE@localhost> References: <4027B6D7.8292.1EB9BE@localhost> Message-ID: <200402101313.45216.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, got the Python bindings working now. Here are some short steps to get it working: 1. Install latest Swig (1.3.20) 2. Checkout Sword's CVS 3. Build and install Sword from this CVS 4. cd bindings/swig/package/ 5. ./autogen.sh; ./configure 6. make pythonswig python_make 7. cd python; python setup.py install This should work (I hope :) Since I don't know python I just tested if the extension could be loaded with import Sword In bindings/swig/examples/ is a Perl script which shows how you can use the bindings. Let me know if you need help, Joachim > Hi, > > Has anyone gotten the Sword libraries to compile with Python? I am > trying to use the swig bindings to compile for python, but have not > been able to get it to work. I have attached the command line for > compiling and the output from the command line given. I have never > used swig bindings before, so this is new to me. > > Also, does diatheke access generic books? Thanks for your help. > > Richard Guay > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKMr2EyRIb2AZBB0RAgiDAJ9BgynW0CD32pb/kLMdbEc2VVs+2ACggCB5 SuWeDTQZyidb7mzqTojxQJ8= =egDt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 17:21:07 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:21:07 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] htmlhref filters Message-ID: <1076433667.25172.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-i29jilXjqQ4N3lV5IaTn Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Troy and Joachim, Could you guys look at these these diff and see if they cause you any grief. Let me know if it's ok to commit or not. Thanks Terry -- --=-i29jilXjqQ4N3lV5IaTn Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gbfhtmlhref.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=gbfhtmlhref.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: gbfhtmlhref.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/src/modules/filters/gbfhtmlhref.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -r1.27 gbfhtmlhref.cpp --- gbfhtmlhref.cpp 31 Jan 2004 00:09:31 -0000 1.27 +++ gbfhtmlhref.cpp 10 Feb 2004 17:09:33 -0000 @@ -24,6 +24,12 @@ SWORD_NAMESPACE_START +GBFHTMLHREF::MyUserData::MyUserData(const SWModule *module, const SWKey *key) : BasicFilterUserData(module, key) { + if (module) { + version = module->Name(); + } +} + GBFHTMLHREF::GBFHTMLHREF() { setTokenStart("<"); setTokenEnd(">"); @@ -143,9 +149,9 @@ } } - else if (!strncmp(token, "WG", 2) || !strncmp(token, "WH", 2)) { // strong's numbers - buf += " <"; @@ -154,10 +160,36 @@ buf += *tok; buf += ">"; } - - else if (!strncmp(token, "WTG", 3) || !strncmp(token, "WTH", 3)) { // strong's numbers tense - buf += " ("; for (tok = token + 2; *tok; tok++) + //if(token[i] != '\"') + buf += *tok; + buf += ">"; + } + + else if (!strncmp(token, "WTG", 3)) { // strong's numbers tense + + buf += " ("; + for (tok = token + 3; *tok; tok++) + if(*tok != '\"') + buf += *tok; + buf += ")"; + } + + else if (!strncmp(token, "WTH", 3)) { // strong's numbers tense + + buf += " ("; @@ -168,7 +200,7 @@ } else if (!strncmp(token, "WT", 2) && strncmp(token, "WTH", 3) && strncmp(token, "WTG", 3)) { // morph tags - buf += " ((*%c ", vkey->getText(), 'n', footnoteNumber.c_str(), 'n'); + buf.appendFormatted("*%c ", u->version.c_str(), vkey->getText(), 'n', footnoteNumber.c_str(), 'n'); } u->suspendTextPassThru = true; } --=-i29jilXjqQ4N3lV5IaTn Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=osishtmlhref.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=osishtmlhref.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: osishtmlhref.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/src/modules/filters/osishtmlhref.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 osishtmlhref.cpp --- osishtmlhref.cpp 24 Jan 2004 18:42:40 -0000 1.21 +++ osishtmlhref.cpp 10 Feb 2004 17:11:57 -0000 @@ -25,6 +25,8 @@ OSISHTMLHREF::MyUserData::MyUserData(const SWModule *module, const SWKey *key) : BasicFilterUserData(module, key) { osisQToTick = ((!module->getConfigEntry("OSISqToTick")) || (strcmp(module->getConfigEntry("OSISqToTick"), "false"))); + if (module) + version = module->Name(); } @@ -95,12 +97,17 @@ if (i < 0) i = 0; // to handle our -1 condition val = strchr(attrib, ':'); val = (val) ? (val + 1) : attrib; + SWBuf gh; + if(*val == 'G') + gh = "Greek"; + if(*val == 'H') + gh = "Hebrew"; const char *val2 = val; if ((strchr("GH", *val)) && (isdigit(val[1]))) val2++; if ((!strcmp(val2, "3588")) && (lastText.length() < 1)) show = false; - else buf.appendFormatted(" <%s> ", val, val2); + else buf.appendFormatted(" <%s> ", (gh.length()) ? gh.c_str() : "", val2, val2); } while (++i < count); } if ((attrib = tag.getAttribute("morph")) && (show)) { @@ -118,7 +125,7 @@ const char *val2 = val; if ((*val == 'T') && (strchr("GH", val[1])) && (isdigit(val[2]))) val2+=2; - buf.appendFormatted(" (%s) ", tag.getAttribute("morph"), val, val2); + buf.appendFormatted(" (%s) ", tag.getAttribute("morph"), val, val2); } while (++i < count); } } @@ -149,7 +156,7 @@ SWCATCH ( ... ) { } if (vkey) { char ch = ((tag.getAttribute("type") && ((!strcmp(tag.getAttribute("type"), "crossReference")) || (!strcmp(tag.getAttribute("type"), "x-cross-ref")))) ? 'x':'n'); - buf.appendFormatted("*%c ", vkey->getText(), ch, footnoteNumber.c_str(), ch); + buf.appendFormatted("*%c ", u->version.c_str(), vkey->getText(), ch, footnoteNumber.c_str(), ch); } } u->suspendTextPassThru = true; --=-i29jilXjqQ4N3lV5IaTn Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=thmlhtmlhref.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=thmlhtmlhref.diff; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: thmlhtmlhref.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/src/modules/filters/thmlhtmlhref.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.48 diff -u -r1.48 thmlhtmlhref.cpp --- thmlhtmlhref.cpp 24 Jan 2004 18:42:40 -0000 1.48 +++ thmlhtmlhref.cpp 10 Feb 2004 17:11:35 -0000 @@ -53,27 +53,19 @@ if (tag.getName() && !strcmp(tag.getName(), "sync")) { SWBuf value = tag.getAttribute("value"); if (tag.getAttribute("type") && !strcmp(tag.getAttribute("type"), "morph")) { //> - buf += "("; + buf.appendFormatted("(",(value.length()) ? value.c_str() : ""); buf += (value.length()) ? value.c_str() : ""; buf += ") "; } else if (tag.getAttribute("type") && !strcmp(tag.getAttribute("type"), "Strongs")) { - buf += "<"; - value<<1; + if(*value == 'H') { + value<<1; + buf.appendFormatted("<",(value.length()) ? value.c_str() : ""); + } + else if(*value == 'G') { + value<<1; + buf.appendFormatted("<",(value.length()) ? value.c_str() : ""); + } buf += (value.length()) ? value.c_str() : ""; buf += "> "; } @@ -99,7 +91,7 @@ if (vkey) { // leave this special osis type in for crossReference notes types? Might thml use this some day? Doesn't hurt. char ch = ((tag.getAttribute("type") && ((!strcmp(tag.getAttribute("type"), "crossReference")) || (!strcmp(tag.getAttribute("type"), "x-cross-ref")))) ? 'x':'n'); - buf.appendFormatted("*%c ", vkey->getText(), ch, footnoteNumber.c_str(), ch); + buf.appendFormatted("*%c ", u->version.c_str(), vkey->getText(), ch, footnoteNumber.c_str(), ch); } u->suspendTextPassThru = true; } @@ -110,7 +102,7 @@ } // tag else if (!strcmp(tag.getName(), "scripRef")) { - if (!tag.isEndTag()) { + if (!tag.isEndTag()) { if (!tag.isEmpty()) { u->suspendTextPassThru = true; } @@ -120,16 +112,8 @@ SWBuf refList = u->startTag.getAttribute("passage"); if (!refList.length()) refList = u->lastTextNode; - SWBuf version = tag.getAttribute("version"); - buf += " "; + SWBuf version = u->startTag.getAttribute("version"); + buf.appendFormatted(" ",(version.length()) ? version.c_str() : "",(refList.length()) ? refList.c_str() : ""); buf += u->lastTextNode.c_str(); buf += " "; } @@ -143,7 +127,7 @@ SWCATCH ( ... ) {} if (vkey) { // leave this special osis type in for crossReference notes types? Might thml use this some day? Doesn't hurt. - buf.appendFormatted("*x ", vkey->getText(), footnoteNumber.c_str()); + buf.appendFormatted("*x ",u->version.c_str(), vkey->getText(), footnoteNumber.c_str()); } } --=-i29jilXjqQ4N3lV5IaTn-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 22:14:27 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:14:27 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] debian packaging change Message-ID: <7DBEA1F9-5C16-11D8-90F7-000A95AB6C48@ntlworld.com> Hi guys, I'm in the process of changing the way I'm doing the debian packaging for CrossWire related packages. I've started a collaborative site so that the debian packaging can be version controlled outside the official cvs for each project. If you would like to help you need to create an account on alioth.debian.org and email me your id so I can add you to the project. http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-crosswire/ If this would be useful for packaging for any other distribution then you would be welcome to use this too. You do _not_ need to be a Debian developer to help with this. Regards, Daniel P.S. In the process of changing means I haven't got anything in cvs yet. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 10 03:31:37 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Adrian Korten) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:31:37 +0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Search and utf-8 bugs In-Reply-To: <4027B6D7.8292.1EB9BE@localhost> References: <4027B6D7.8292.1EB9BE@localhost> Message-ID: <40285099.6090208@sil.org> Good day, We have also found some problems with the way the Search window handles book names (utf-8). It can get confused when the GUI has been set to Thai and some book names use Thai script and others use Roman script. The roman script may appear as a jumbled utf-8 set of characters or vice versa. I can give more details when the v1.5.8 development begins. Soon, I'll also try to do up a set of mini-modules with Thai script for testing with Windows and Linux. Adrian From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 11 02:01:47 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:01:47 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-cvs] sword/include config.h,1.1,1.2 swversion.h,1.16,1.17 In-Reply-To: <200402101815.i1AIFxG25232@www.crosswire.org> References: <200402101815.i1AIFxG25232@www.crosswire.org> Message-ID: <3F7CB1B1-5C36-11D8-AFE8-000A95AB6C48@ntlworld.com> Let's discuss this. The API has changed in cvs since 1.5.7 IMHO this makes it a bad idea to compile and build cvs as 1.5.7 since 1.5.7 is what it isn't. Personally I think it is reasonable to label cvs as the next version, but it's not a big deal imho as long as it is labelled as something newer than the released version. Alternative possible names 1.5.8pre or 1.5.8cvs or 1.5.7+cvs or ... er, there must be something that works better than these. However I don't know what these will do for the version check macros and other things like that. Oops, it's too late now. I'll try and be more coherent later today. Regards, Daniel P.S. Please identify yourself in cvs commit messages as cvs doesn't to the mailing list On 10 Feb 2004, at 18:15, sword@www.crosswire.org wrote: > Update of /cvs/core/sword/include > In directory www:/tmp/cvs-serv25215/include > > Modified Files: > config.h swversion.h > Log Message: > fix > > Index: config.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/include/config.h,v > retrieving revision 1.1 > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -d -r1.1 -r1.2 > --- config.h 10 Feb 2004 17:59:46 -0000 1.1 > +++ config.h 10 Feb 2004 18:15:54 -0000 1.2 > @@ -44,19 +44,19 @@ > #define PACKAGE_NAME "sword" > > /* Define to the full name and version of this package. */ > -#define PACKAGE_STRING "sword 1.5.8" > +#define PACKAGE_STRING "sword 1.5.7" > > /* Define to the one symbol short name of this package. */ > #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "sword" > > /* Define to the version of this package. */ > -#define PACKAGE_VERSION "1.5.8" > +#define PACKAGE_VERSION "1.5.7" > > /* Define to 1 if you have the ANSI C header files. */ > #define STDC_HEADERS 1 > > /* Version number of package */ > -#define VERSION "1.5.8" > +#define VERSION "1.5.7" > > /* Define to 1 if your processor stores words with the most > significant byte > first (like Motorola and SPARC, unlike Intel and VAX). */ > > Index: swversion.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/include/swversion.h,v > retrieving revision 1.16 > retrieving revision 1.17 > diff -u -d -r1.16 -r1.17 > --- swversion.h 10 Feb 2004 16:35:59 -0000 1.16 > +++ swversion.h 10 Feb 2004 18:15:54 -0000 1.17 > @@ -19,8 +19,6 @@ > * > */ > > -#include "config.h" > - > #ifndef SWVERSION_H > #define SWVERSION_H > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-cvs mailing list > sword-cvs@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 11 03:48:15 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:48:15 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-cvs] sword/include config.h,1.1,1.2 swversion.h,1.16,1.17 In-Reply-To: <3F7CB1B1-5C36-11D8-AFE8-000A95AB6C48@ntlworld.com> References: <200402101815.i1AIFxG25232@www.crosswire.org> <3F7CB1B1-5C36-11D8-AFE8-000A95AB6C48@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200402102248.17383.davidslists@gmx.net> On Tuesday 10 February 2004 09:01 pm, Daniel Glassey wrote: > Alternative possible names 1.5.8pre or 1.5.8cvs or 1.5.7+cvs or ... er, > there must be something that works better than these. That's how gaim does it. For example, current released stable version is 0.75. Cvs is 0.76cvs. When 0.76 is released, cvs becomes 0.77cvs and so on. It works quite well, and gaim even has a release notification plugin that checks your version against the website version and tells you if you are out of date (even works if your cvs is behind the current release) -- --David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver Keeping me (relatively) spam free since 2003 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 11 13:21:38 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:21:38 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-cvs] sword/include config.h,1.1,1.2 swversion.h,1.16,1.17 In-Reply-To: <3F7CB1B1-5C36-11D8-AFE8-000A95AB6C48@ntlworld.com> References: <200402101815.i1AIFxG25232@www.crosswire.org> <3F7CB1B1-5C36-11D8-AFE8-000A95AB6C48@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200402111421.44034.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Daniel, I did that commit. I think it's a good idea to change the version in CVS. BTW, I changed the swversion class to use the version in config.h which is from the auto-tools. The only place where the version is defined is configure.ac, so we won't forget to change other places if the version changes, I also enhanced the Makefile.am stuff a bit to include more files in make dist, e.g. the Kylix and BCPP project files for the lib, the utils and tools. Joachim > Let's discuss this. The API has changed in cvs since 1.5.7 IMHO this > makes it a bad idea to compile and build cvs as 1.5.7 since 1.5.7 is > what it isn't. > > Personally I think it is reasonable to label cvs as the next version, > but it's not a big deal imho as long as it is labelled as something > newer than the released version. > > Alternative possible names 1.5.8pre or 1.5.8cvs or 1.5.7+cvs or ... er, > there must be something that works better than these. > > However I don't know what these will do for the version check macros > and other things like that. > > Oops, it's too late now. I'll try and be more coherent later today. > > Regards, > Daniel > > P.S. Please identify yourself in cvs commit messages as cvs doesn't to > the mailing list > > On 10 Feb 2004, at 18:15, sword@www.crosswire.org wrote: > > Update of /cvs/core/sword/include > > In directory www:/tmp/cvs-serv25215/include > > > > Modified Files: > > config.h swversion.h > > Log Message: > > fix > > > > Index: config.h > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/include/config.h,v > > retrieving revision 1.1 > > retrieving revision 1.2 > > diff -u -d -r1.1 -r1.2 > > --- config.h 10 Feb 2004 17:59:46 -0000 1.1 > > +++ config.h 10 Feb 2004 18:15:54 -0000 1.2 > > @@ -44,19 +44,19 @@ > > #define PACKAGE_NAME "sword" > > > > /* Define to the full name and version of this package. */ > > -#define PACKAGE_STRING "sword 1.5.8" > > +#define PACKAGE_STRING "sword 1.5.7" > > > > /* Define to the one symbol short name of this package. */ > > #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "sword" > > > > /* Define to the version of this package. */ > > -#define PACKAGE_VERSION "1.5.8" > > +#define PACKAGE_VERSION "1.5.7" > > > > /* Define to 1 if you have the ANSI C header files. */ > > #define STDC_HEADERS 1 > > > > /* Version number of package */ > > -#define VERSION "1.5.8" > > +#define VERSION "1.5.7" > > > > /* Define to 1 if your processor stores words with the most > > significant byte > > first (like Motorola and SPARC, unlike Intel and VAX). */ > > > > Index: swversion.h > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /cvs/core/sword/include/swversion.h,v > > retrieving revision 1.16 > > retrieving revision 1.17 > > diff -u -d -r1.16 -r1.17 > > --- swversion.h 10 Feb 2004 16:35:59 -0000 1.16 > > +++ swversion.h 10 Feb 2004 18:15:54 -0000 1.17 > > @@ -19,8 +19,6 @@ > > * > > */ > > > > -#include "config.h" > > - > > #ifndef SWVERSION_H > > #define SWVERSION_H > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sword-cvs mailing list > > sword-cvs@crosswire.org > > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKixmEyRIb2AZBB0RAo1aAJ40e4+9TQEh2Km2TX3sMXJwqUz2nQCgraMn fqRPlpfGuWsHMYrXg13fa4Q= =1MUm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 12 17:12:38 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Griswold) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:12:38 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Incomplete verses in BHS Message-ID: <87u11wgr21.fsf@cantor.griswold.home> Hi there, I have discovered a problem in the book of Isaiah in the sword module for the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (BHS). I noticed it first with chapter 6. There, several verses are incomplete. Verse 2 ends after the second radical ("letter") of the third word. Only part of the first word of verse 4 is present. Verse 5 ends partway through the ninth word. There are similar problems with verses 9 and 13. Incomplete verses are relatively easy to spot, even for those who can't read Hebrew: ends of verses are marked by a colon (:). When a verse does not end with a colon in the module, then this is a strong indicator that the verse is probably incomplete. That is confirmed by a comparison with the printed text. Glancing through the nearby chapters in Isaiah, I find problems in other chapters. I noticed it, by quickly checking, in chapters 1, 5, and 7. It's probably throughout the whole text, but proving that is more effort than it's worth, unless I find out otherwise. I believe that it is a problem with the module rather than with the program used to display the text, because I get the same results whether I use GnomeSword (2) or BibleTime. I do not know if this problem originates with the packaging of this module or further "upstream." So, if this bug is best reported elsewhere, I'd be happy to know that. Peace, Dan _______________________________ /\ \ \_| Dan Griswold | | dgriswol@rochester.rr.com | | __________________________|_ \_/____________________________/ From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 12 18:11:05 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Johan Gorter) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:11:05 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Windows CE: application layout In-Reply-To: <401FEE40.5070707@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <000b01c3f193$94e15df0$633ea8c0@DRSOONGVAIO> Hello Troy and other people interested in the windows CE application, About Troys latest remarks: >When displaying a lexicon, this is a simple edit box that does an >incremental lookup as you type. >When displaying a general book, it is a 'path' textbox, with an expand >button.. e.g. [Topic 3/Chapter 1/Section V/][*] >If the [*] button is pressed, a tree control is displayed that shows the >book's table of contents and lets the user navigate and select a new >location. >This seems like a lot of work, but for me, it would be straightforward >to implement if I could have the UI designed and functional. If I had >the controls in place, and an example of how to populate/respond to the >controls, I should be able to hook them up to the engine with no problems. >I understand that you want this to be a basic reading application. I >would like to honor this desire and not show any of these controls if >these types of books are not installed. I'll try to keep the interface >only as cluttered as required for the books that are installed. >Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I do think that these would be valuable extensions to the windows CE application, but the current design is aimed at an audience who just want to read the bible instead of studying it. I think that just extending the current program would not lead to an optimal application, therefore I suggest the following approach: We make two applications, one for just reading the bible and one, more complicated, to also study the bible. In practice this only means having two gui's for the same dll. The best way implement this, I think, is to have a new compile-option (like -DSIMPLE) which, when turned on, results in the simple application. The current code is modular enough to support this. We can simply use all the current code when we design a second 'navigator' object (or do something with inheritance). You-guys should realize that I am not an expert on bibly-study tools. In fact, I do not even know what a 'Strongs number' is. This is why the complicated application requires a lot of cooperation. I think that the idea of using the menu-bar as a tab control is a very powerful method, which we can easily extend. If we replace the text of the menu-items by icons (only in the study gui), we can add more pages. My first suggestion, based on the remarks above, would be to add the following pages: - A page displaying the greek/hebrew (accessed by clicking on a link in the normal text) - A lexicon page - A books table of contents. - A books text. - An options page containing several available options. I can do the work on the gui (providing I have the time) while other people work on hooking in the engine parts. I am looking forward to feedback and additions to this idea Greetings, Johan From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 12 18:36:56 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Stephen Denne) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:36:56 +1300 Subject: [sword-devel] Incomplete verses in BHS In-Reply-To: <87u11wgr21.fsf@cantor.griswold.home> Message-ID: Hello Dan, > I have discovered a problem in the book of Isaiah in the sword module > for the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (BHS). I noticed it first with > chapter 6. There, several verses are incomplete. Verse 2 ends after > the second radical ("letter") of the third word. Only part of the > first word of verse 4 is present. Verse 5 ends partway through the > ninth word. There are similar problems with verses 9 and 13. Mine looks fine. Not that I can read Hebrew, nor have a printed text to compare it to, but each verse ends with a colon. Is 6:2 has about 16 words in it. > I believe that it is a problem with the module rather than with the > program used to display the text, because I get the same results > whether I use GnomeSword (2) or BibleTime. Just because mine works ok doesn't mean that there isn't a problem in the module... it could be the case that there are some mistakes that are non-consequential in my setup (I'm using The Sword Project for Windows, v1.5.6 on Windows XP Home edition) but cause problems on some other setups. Or it could be just your copy of the module. Have you tried deleting and reinstalling it? Or perhaps a font handling issue? I couldn't spot any particular similarities between the spots you said the verses ended, but I only took a cursory look. You're probably better waiting to hear from other GnomeSword or BibleTime users, as I know that "it works for me" usually isn't terribly useful for solving the problem, but in this case it says something about the when the module does work. Stephen. -- Datacute - Acute Information Revelation Tools http://www.datacute.co.nz/ From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 12 19:26:02 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:26:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [sword-devel] Incomplete verses in BHS In-Reply-To: <87u11wgr21.fsf@cantor.griswold.home> Message-ID: There is no problem on my end either, with either BibleCS 1.5.6 or The Bible Tool and the latest version of BHS. I would try downloading a new copy. Your may be either old or corrupted. If that doesn't fix the problem, there's an error in Sword 1.5.7 or, less likely, in both BibleTime and GnomeSword. --Chris On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Dan Griswold wrote: > Hi there, > > I have discovered a problem in the book of Isaiah in the sword module > for the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (BHS). I noticed it first with > chapter 6. There, several verses are incomplete. Verse 2 ends after > the second radical ("letter") of the third word. Only part of the > first word of verse 4 is present. Verse 5 ends partway through the > ninth word. There are similar problems with verses 9 and 13. > > Incomplete verses are relatively easy to spot, even for those who > can't read Hebrew: ends of verses are marked by a colon (:). When a > verse does not end with a colon in the module, then this is a strong > indicator that the verse is probably incomplete. That is confirmed by > a comparison with the printed text. > > Glancing through the nearby chapters in Isaiah, I find problems in > other chapters. I noticed it, by quickly checking, in chapters 1, 5, > and 7. It's probably throughout the whole text, but proving that is > more effort than it's worth, unless I find out otherwise. > > I believe that it is a problem with the module rather than with the > program used to display the text, because I get the same results > whether I use GnomeSword (2) or BibleTime. > > I do not know if this problem originates with the packaging of this > module or further "upstream." So, if this bug is best reported > elsewhere, I'd be happy to know that. > > > Peace, > > Dan > > _______________________________ > /\ \ > \_| Dan Griswold | > | dgriswol@rochester.rr.com | > | __________________________|_ > \_/____________________________/ > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 12 19:40:55 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:40:55 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Fwd: [sword-support] A Sword in the Chamorro Language: The Chamorro Bible Message-ID: <200402121440.55328.davidslists@gmx.net> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [sword-support] A Sword in the Chamorro Language: The Chamorro Bible Date: Thursday 12 February 2004 02:15 pm From: "Clarence L. Thomas IV" To: "The SWORD Project, Crosswire Bible Society" Cc: "Editor, ChamorroBible.org" Coordinators of The SWORD Project, The 1908 Chamorro Bible, whose long title is Chamorro and English Scriptures: Y Cuatro Ebangelio Sija Yan Y Checho Y Apostoles Sija Gui Testamento Nuebo Y Señotta Yan Y Satbadotta Si Jesucristo Yan Y Salmo Sija, is ready for free distribution and publication in The SWORD Project's "vs" format. The Bible has one Old Testament book (The Psalms) and five New Testament books (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Acts of the Apostles). The text was converted from RTF to GBF; then with the help of GNU AWK was converted to IMP. From there "imp2vs.exe" was successful used. An "uilocales.d/ch.conf" and "locales.d/ch.conf" have been prepared, which I expect will be updated in the future, as well as the required "mods.d/chamorro.conf" The Chamorro language (language code "ch") is spoken, read, and written in the US Territory of Guam and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. And with the anticpated distribution with The SWORD Project, the Chamorro Bible will for the first time in its history be part of a Bible Software package. The story of this Bible is an interesting one and is documented at (see "Chamorro Bible Project", "Francis Marion Price", "The Resurrection of the (1908) Chamorro Bible) and at the Rlene "Live" Productions media site, http://RleneLive.com, for additional articles and audio ("Audio Transcripts"). The Guam based KUAM TV (http://KUAM.com) station recently ran another story related to the Chamorro Bible and the Pacific Daily News recently (http://www.GuamPDN.com) printed two stories. Search , as well as for "chamorro bible" with and without the quotes. (And no, the 1908 Chamorro Bible *was not* collected and burned as has been reported. See the statement at ChamorroBible.org and the archived Rlene"Live" Wednesday, February 11, 2004 talk show (K57, http://K57.com) at RleneLive.com -> "Audio Archive". The 1908 Chamorro Bible's present significance and importance in Chamorro history was recently recognized by I Mina'Bente Siete Na Liheslaturan Guåhan – The 27th Guam Legislature in the form of three simultaneous full legislative session resolutions. This honor, to my knowledge, is a first for any Bible in the history of the United States. The Resolutions texts, with very important accompanying Commentary, are at ChamorroBible.org; photos and audio of the offical presentation at . In conclusion, here are a few questions: 1. What files are needed and where does the Editor of ChamorroBible.org (who is being CC'd and is solely responsible for the text) send them? 2. Can they be placed on the Crosswire Bible Society's site today? 3. Is there a way for the "chapter heading" for the Psalms to read "Psalm 1" instead of "Chapter 1"? Looking forward to hearing from you soon. Thanks. --- Clarence Thomas IV E-mail: clt4@compuserve.com _______________________________________________ sword-support mailing list sword-support@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-support ------------------------------------------------------- -- --David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver Keeping me (relatively) spam free since 2003 From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 12 21:33:17 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Griswold) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:33:17 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Incomplete verses in BHS In-Reply-To: (Chris Little's message of "Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:26:02 -0700 (MST)") References: Message-ID: <87isic3rvm.fsf@cantor.griswold.home> Chris Little writes: > I would try downloading a new copy. Your may be either old or > corrupted. Thank you, Chris and Stephen. That indeed appears to have been the case. Re-installing BHS solves the problem. Doh! I should have thought of this. My previous installation of the module dated from 2001. Many thanks, Dan -- _______________________________ /\ \ \_| Dan Griswold | | dgriswol@rochester.rr.com | | __________________________|_ \_/____________________________/ From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 14 13:54:02 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Adrian Frost) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:54:02 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Error in ESV Message-ID: <001301c3f302$01c863e0$3a9fc850@skynet.be> Hello, Still around despite not posting for a little while now... Just found an error in the ESV module in Genesis 29:24. Simply a typo: "Laban gavehis female servant Zilpah to his daughter Leah to be her servant" Hope that's of some help to someone. Regards Adrian From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 13 01:05:10 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Derek Viljoen) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:05:10 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] I am a developer Message-ID: <1076634309.8632.22.camel@apu> Hello, I'm writing to offer (a little) help with the development process of GnomeSword. Here's what you've asked for: Spiritual background (briefly): I've been saved since I was 10. My father is a retired Pastor/School Teacher. I'm a deacon in my church (Fellowship Alliance Chapel, Medford, NJ). (Is that too brief?) Skills and experience: I'm a professional programmer, currently working for an R&D company (Sarnoff Corporation, Princeton, NJ). I've been working in the industry for about 13 years. Linux related: Yes. Lots and for a long time. I go back to the Slackware install from diskette days on a 486. Windows: Yes. I go way back to TurboPascal/TurboBasic on DOS (Ctrl-K, Ctrl-D!). I've done lots of cross-platform stuff as well. I really don't enjoy Windows coding as much as Linux though. Programming tools: C, C++, Java, SQL, x86 asm, CORBA, (D)COM, MFC, MSVC 4.x through .NET, gdb, ddd, SNavigator, Purify, CVS, (g)vi(m), (ba)sh, Linux kernel development (device drivers, and modules), multi-threading, TCP/IP, SNA, SNMP, ... shall I stop now? Non-techie skills (testing, documentation, etc.) I have no non-techie skills, as my wife will attest. How much SWORD software experience and how recent: I've been using it for a couple of years, on and off. On the Windows side I've gotten used to OnlineBible. I've been using that one since DOS days. I've actually written my own bible study software for Windows, although I gave up on it because my preferred translation is NASB and Lockman Foundation gave me such grief getting a license to sell it. It was very much like a scaled down version of GnomeSword, which is what originally drew me to it. What might interest you? One feature I had that I really liked on my app was a VERY easy to use cross-reference system. You could right-click and select a verse for cross referencing. You then went to another verse and pasted it as a reference. You could then just right click and get a child popup menu listing all of the cross references to a verse. Although, I have a problem, which may not be a real bug, but I can't get the personal module to save any of my text. I'm sure its a configuration issue. If not, I'd love to get that feature working for you. I'd really use it. I used it a lot in OnlineBible. Also, maybe a utility to convert my OnlineBible notes to sword. Problems/shortcomings you've observed with The SWORD Project software you might be willing to work: (see above) Ideas for improvements: Good user documentation, and better online support docs. Time availability: Hit and miss. I really don't have a lot of free time, but what I have I'll give. (a couple of hours a week perhaps?) My complete contact info: Derek Viljoen work: dviljoen@sarnoff.com home: dviljoen@comcast.net home: 609-267-6831 work: 609-734-3061 -- Derek Viljoen From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Feb 13 13:28:35 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (sword-devel@crosswire.org) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:28:35 EST Subject: [sword-devel] Question regarding Bible? Message-ID: <7a.50cfb9f3.2d5e2b03@aol.com> --part1_7a.50cfb9f3.2d5e2b03_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good morning!!!! I am writing in hope that you may be able to direct me, I read your web posting and saw you requested information regarding an AJ Holman and Company Bible, my mother was given the same Bible by her father, can you direct me to where I might find additional information regarding this bible? Thank you for your help and have a blessed day!!!! Best regards, Rhonda Collins --part1_7a.50cfb9f3.2d5e2b03_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good morning!!!! I am writing in ho= pe that you may be able to direct me, I read your web posting and saw you re= quested information regarding an AJ Holman and Company Bible, my mother was=20= given the same Bible by her father, can you direct me to where I might find=20= additional information regarding this bible? Thank you for your help and hav= e a blessed day!!!!

Best regards,
Rhonda Collins --part1_7a.50cfb9f3.2d5e2b03_boundary-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 14 18:57:12 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Schultz) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:57:12 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> Message-ID: <402E6F88.4050001@netscape.net> Joachim Ansorg schrieb: >I uploaded two new modules into the beta section. > Hi all, where is the beta section? greetings wolfgang FREE BIBLE SOFTWARE GROUP http://www.zefania.de From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 14 20:55:31 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Martin Gruner) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:55:31 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <402E6F88.4050001@netscape.net> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> <402E6F88.4050001@netscape.net> Message-ID: <200402142155.31426.mg.pub@gmx.net> Wolfgang, it is here: ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/betaraw. Blessings, Martin Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2004 19:57 schrieb Schultz: > Joachim Ansorg schrieb: > >I uploaded two new modules into the beta section. > > Hi all, > > > where is the beta section? > > greetings > wolfgang > FREE BIBLE SOFTWARE GROUP > http://www.zefania.de > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Feb 15 20:35:26 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Schultz) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:35:26 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] 2 new modules GerGrebber1936 and Jubilee2000 In-Reply-To: <200402142155.31426.mg.pub@gmx.net> References: <200402052250.17213.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> <402E6F88.4050001@netscape.net> <200402142155.31426.mg.pub@gmx.net> Message-ID: <402FD80E.9070100@netscape.net> Martin Gruner schrieb: >Wolfgang, > >it is here: ftp://ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/betaraw. > >Blessings, > >Martin > Thank you ! BTW I have made a Zefania XML module from Greber 1936. https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89078&package_id=109617 Greetings wolfgang FREE BIBLE SOFTWARE GROUP http//www.zefania.de MyBible http://www.mybible.de From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Feb 15 23:06:32 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Bertles) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:06:32 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Windows CE Message-ID: <000301c3f418$5b98aa30$1ad008c7@bertles> Troy, Have you been able to get BDB to work on Windows CE? Every lookup in Hebrew yields the same definition "Tiphel A rare..." I've been following the conversation on the options for the extent of the CE version development. Though I don't rely much on commentaries, I love to do word studies. Morphology, Strong's, a good search engine, a verse lookup history and copying Bible text would make my IPAQ all I need. I so wish I had the ability to implement these things myself, but I've never had any training on compiling programs, etc. I do some traveling, and frequently have to yield the computer to others in my family. That along with the fact that I may be headed for some lengthy hospital stays, makes me really want a self contained study aide. I so appreciate all that everyone has done so far on this project. In His Holy Name! Dan From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 16 05:35:37 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Overcash) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:35:37 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] CE Reader: Instructions? Message-ID: <001001c3f44e$b516c2a0$5001a8c0@dave> Hey ya'all (mainly Troy), I recently gave the link to my friend with a palm to download the windows CE client. But he has been having some trouble getting it working. Since I do not have a palm pilot myself I was wondering if we could setup a page to explain how to install modules and everything on the palm itself. I think that by now, with the file reaching the maturity it is at, that there should be a dev page dedicated to the CE reader anways... Anyone agree/disagree? -Dave Overcash From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 16 07:05:15 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Hugo van der Kooij) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:05:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: [sword-devel] CE Reader: Instructions? In-Reply-To: <001001c3f44e$b516c2a0$5001a8c0@dave> References: <001001c3f44e$b516c2a0$5001a8c0@dave> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, David Overcash wrote: > I recently gave the link to my friend with a palm to download the windows CE > client. Duhhh???? The Palm is NOT Winows CE so Windows CE programs will not run! It's like trying to install a windows programm on my Linux machine. (Which you might get away with if you add WINE.) Hugo. (Who owns a Palm for years.) -- All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger. From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 16 16:13:24 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Overcash) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:13:24 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] CE Reader: Instructions? References: <001001c3f44e$b516c2a0$5001a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <000b01c3f4a7$d04674e0$5001a8c0@dave> I know that. I was just substituting the word palm for handheld. -Dave > On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, David Overcash wrote: > > > I recently gave the link to my friend with a palm to download the windows CE > > client. > > Duhhh???? > > The Palm is NOT Winows CE so Windows CE programs will not run! > > It's like trying to install a windows programm on my Linux machine. (Which > you might get away with if you add WINE.) > > Hugo. (Who owns a Palm for years.) > > -- > All email sent to me is bound to the rules described on my homepage. > hvdkooij@vanderkooij.org http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/ > Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, > for they are subtle and quick to anger. > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Feb 16 20:27:04 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:27:04 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Windows CE: application layout In-Reply-To: <000b01c3f193$94e15df0$633ea8c0@DRSOONGVAIO> References: <000b01c3f193$94e15df0$633ea8c0@DRSOONGVAIO> Message-ID: <40312798.7070500@crosswire.org> Johan, I like your ideas, and very much like the role you have requested to play. I would love to have the gui done with skeleton functions for me to add code to interface with the engine! What a blessing! To try out some of the lexicon and greek help that already works, try installing the latest: KJV, Strongsgreek, Robinsons, Strongshebrew modules. Then turn on Strongs and Morphology. You should be able to click on these numbers or codes and see the Greek word definitions and tense (to be oversimplistic) of the original language text. I think adding a page for these is fine. The popup boxes were a temporary solution and don't provide for display very large entries. The Cross-References in, say, the NASB or ESV are also something we should think about supporting. Currently the popup boxes show the references, but they would be more useful if they were in some kind of verselist where the user could chose each one and see the verse, then possibly jump to the verse in context in the normal text display screen. What do you think of having a general VerseList page and it could double for this purpose, and also for the search results? We could use it maybe for other stuff in the future, as well. Thanks again! I'm excited to work together with you! You want to do all the parts that I don't know how! -Troy. > - A page displaying the greek/hebrew (accessed by clicking on a link in > the normal text) > - A lexicon page > - A books table of contents. > - A books text. > - An options page containing several available options. > > I can do the work on the gui (providing I have the time) while other > people work on hooking in the engine parts. > > I am looking forward to feedback and additions to this idea > > Greetings, > > Johan > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list > sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 18 08:25:30 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Barry Drake) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:25:30 -0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-support] action message: NETBible permissions In-Reply-To: <4032E9F7.3030203@bible.org> Message-ID: <4033217A.28266.3A4963@localhost> On 17 Feb 2004 at 23:28, David Austin wrote: > WE have had requests to make our bible available so it can be used by > sword users I am the permissions director and I am interested in > exploring if someone already has taken our text and our 60000+ notes > and made locked modules so all I have to do is to work with you on what > are the conditions for issueing unlock keys? Thank you for your message. I believe that one of the Sword contributors has produced a locked module already of both the NET bible and the accompanying notes - obviously this has not been released. If I am incorrect in this understanding, I can say that modules could be produced by contributors and supplied to you. There would be no charge for this service, or for any upgrading or modification that was subsequently required by you. The locking system supported by the Sword project is in the form of a twelve character alphanumeric key unique to the module in question. The Sword Project is unable to sell modules or keys for a price. We simply have no means of doing this. Any transactions involving money would thus need to be carried out by yourselves or your agent. We would make no restriction on the use of the software with modules that had to be paid for, and we would require no percentage of the copyright fees received. We would be happy to host the module as a downloadable locked module, or to supply it to you for download from your site. You or your agent would need to deal with the question of the issue of the unlock key. The Sword Project leader is Troy Griffitts - you can e-mail him at: scribe@crosswire.org Many supporters and contruibutors on the Sword Project use the NET bible and would welcome any arrangement that is able to be made to make this translation and the notes available in Sword format. God bless, Barry -- From Barry Drake (The Revd) minister of the Netherfield United Reformed church, Nottingham see http://www.jesusinnetherfield.org.uk for our church homepages). Replies - b.drake@ntlworld.com From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 18 11:57:50 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lynn Allan) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 04:57:50 -0700 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: I am a developer Message-ID: <00a901c3f616$6ee01b00$0200a8c0@k2> Hello Derek Viljoen, > I'm writing to offer (a little) help with the development process of GnomeSword. I saw your post to sword-develop, and thought I'd check if you would be interested in contributing to several projects I've been working on: LcdBible (potential "front-end" to sword-api) InVerse Scripture memorization freeware Sharing Bible The first two are Visual C++ MFC projects. The last is a Publisher document. For His glory and honor, Lynn Allan From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 18 12:17:59 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Andy Piper) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:17:59 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] I am a developer References: <1076634309.8632.22.camel@apu> Message-ID: <403357f7873fd7.38299694@freeuk.com> Derek Viljoen wrote: > I'm writing to offer (a little) help with the development process of > GnomeSword. Great - note that the majority of GnomeSword discussion goes on at gnomesword-developers@lists.sf.net, however. > What might interest you? > > One feature I had that I really liked on my app was a VERY easy to use > cross-reference system. You could right-click and select a verse for > cross referencing. You then went to another verse and pasted it as a > reference. You could then just right click and get a child popup menu > listing all of the cross references to a verse. > > Although, I have a problem, which may not be a real bug, but I can't get > the personal module to save any of my text. I'm sure its a > configuration issue. If not, I'd love to get that feature working for > you. I'd really use it. I used it a lot in OnlineBible. Also, maybe a > utility to convert my OnlineBible notes to sword. Do you have the Personal module installed in your user directory? Do you have permissions to update it? > Problems/shortcomings you've observed with The SWORD Project software > you might be willing to work: > > (see above) > > Ideas for improvements: > > Good user documentation, and better online support docs. We definitely need to improve our docs, any help you can provide in this area would certainly be appreciated. Andy -- Andy Piper - Farnborough, Hampshire (UK) andy.piper@freeuk.com http://www.andypiper.co.uk/ From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 19 22:41:00 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Willem van Engen) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:41:00 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] FreeBSD, installmgr & namespace Message-ID: <20040219234100.7a7ce522.wvengen@stack.nl> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart_Thu__19_Feb_2004_23:41:00_+0100_08333770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've been trying to get sword-1.5.7 to compile on FreeBSD, but I just can't get it done. When compiling installmgr.cpp, it says: In file included from /usr/include/sys/stat.h:50, from ../include/filemgr.h:25, from ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp:16: /usr/include/sys/time.h:156: field `tc_nanotime' has incomplete type and the same message about st_[amc]timespec in sys/stat.h. After having given up on it several times, I finally have an idea what it's cause is. See attachment for a stripped file that shows the problem. time.h is included (from ftpparse.h) inside the sword namespace. When sys/time.h is included later on outside the sword namespace, things like time_t are not known there, but the #define's that do their magic inside the header files are still defined and think it's already done. I can get around it by replacing time_t by long and including time.h in ftpparse.c. I see a comment before the ftpparse #include directive in installmgr.h: // move this include to cpp once struct ftpparse isn't exposed anymore It should be solved when this is done. I might take some time to look into it, but I'm not overly familiar with the plusses in c++. Regards, - Willem --Multipart_Thu__19_Feb_2004_23:41:00_+0100_08333770 Content-Type: text/x-c++src; name="installmgr-stripped.cpp" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="installmgr-stripped.cpp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 LyoKICogVGhpcyBpcyBpbnN0YWxsbWdyLmNwcAogKi8KIAovLwovLyBpbnN0YWxsbWdyLmggLT4g c3didWYuaAovLwojaW5jbHVkZSA8c3RkbGliLmg+CgovLwovLyBpbnN0YWxsbWdyLmgKLy8KbmFt ZXNwYWNlIHN3b3JkIHsgICAgICAgLy9TV09SRF9OQU1FU1BBQ0VfU1RBUlQKCmV4dGVybiAiQyIg ewojaW5jbHVkZSA8dGltZS5oPgkvLyBmdHBwYXJzZS5oCn0KCn0gLy8gU1dPUkRfTkFNRVNQQUNF X0VORAoKLy8KLy8gZmlsZW1nci5oCi8vCiNpbmNsdWRlIDxzeXMvc3RhdC5oPgoK --Multipart_Thu__19_Feb_2004_23:41:00_+0100_08333770-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 18 12:24:35 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Derek Viljoen) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:24:35 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Re: I am a developer In-Reply-To: <00a901c3f616$6ee01b00$0200a8c0@k2> References: <00a901c3f616$6ee01b00$0200a8c0@k2> Message-ID: <1077107074.13322.11.camel@milhouse.sarnoff.com> Lynn, Well, I've had an idea rolling round in my head for a couple of years regarding a Scripture memorization system. The problem is it requires speech recognition technology, and while we could just use SAPI for a windows port, there's nothing really up to speed on Linux (IBM seems to have only half-hearted support for ViaVoice on Linux). There are some promising open source technologies (ISIP, etc.) but they are really immature. My idea stems from a pen and paper technique that I use to memorize scripture. You write the first letter of each word in a verse like this: John 3:16 F G s l t w t H g H o b s t w s b i H w h e l I typically do a whole chapter at a time with one verse per line. Then when I can read through it without problems, I fold over the paper and cover up everything but the first letter of the first word in each verse (this helps me with the transitions from verse to verse). Eventually, I've got the whole chapter memorized. I want to computerize that process. Just like the little apps you run to "teach" a voice recognition system your voice, where it highlights the words you say as you read through it. I'd like to have the three stages I just described (1- full text, 2- first letter of each word, 3- first letter of each verse) and have it display the full words as you say them. I've really been wanting to build this thing, but haven't had the time. What do you think? Derek On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 06:57, Lynn Allan wrote: > Hello Derek Viljoen, > > > I'm writing to offer (a little) help with the development process of > GnomeSword. > > I saw your post to sword-develop, and thought I'd check if you would be > interested in contributing to several projects I've been working on: > > LcdBible (potential "front-end" to sword-api) > InVerse Scripture memorization freeware > Sharing Bible > > The first two are Visual C++ MFC projects. The last is a Publisher document. > > For His glory and honor, > Lynn Allan -- ___ __ _ * dviljoen@sarnoff.com / ) _ _ _ / / / . / . _ _ _ * (609) 734-3061 (W) (_/__/ (/_/__(/__/< (_/ /_/_/_(_)_(/_( )__ * ICBM Addr: 39N 58' 21" _/ * 74W 47' 49" From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Feb 22 18:47:43 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Geoffrey W Hastings) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:47:43 -0800 Subject: [sword-devel] Latest ISO Message-ID: <20040222.104743.3264.2.geoffreyhastings@juno.com> Does the late ISO contain the KJV2003 complete. The latest ISO listed is still from last fall. Unless you consider the Beta as the latest ISO. The last time I checked the latest ISO was earlier in the week. Geoff ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Feb 24 05:34:22 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Sherine) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:34:22 +0800 Subject: [sword-devel] Fw: Myanmar Bible Message-ID: <003601c3fa97$dc374040$106fc897@sherine1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C3FADA.E94D07E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sword team, Hello. I am Anthony Zee, a new member of the Myanmar Bible Translation = team introduced by Levi in a mail sent early Feb.=20 We were discussing about the possibility of database merging to ease the = Myanmar Bible Database compilation. As of now, we have multiple part of = Myanmar Bible in individual files which need to be compiled into Sword = database. Currently, we use to cut and paste Myanmar Bible text from = individual files to Sword program but it is quite time consuming.=20 Will it be difficult to import these files from Sword database? Please = advise if there are any other methods we can use to compile the Myanmar = Bible text to Sword database.=20 Thanks. B.Rgds, Anthony -----Original Message----- From: Sherine [mailto:sherine@e.com.my]=20 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 2:04 PM To: Anthony Zee Subject: Fw: Myanmar Bible ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Levi Lim=20 To: sword-devel@crosswire.org=20 Cc: Lay Kheng=20 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Myanmar Bible Dear Sword team, Greetings. I am introducing to you a new member of the Myanmar Bible = Translation. His name is Anthony Zee (csherine@tm.net.my) and he has = good technical know how regarding software development. He will work = alongside with me and will be in correspondence with the sword team from = time to time. Thanks.=20 Levi ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C3FADA.E94D07E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Sword=20 team,
 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C3FADA.E94D07E0-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 25 03:49:20 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Levi Lim) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:49:20 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] Updates- Myanmar Bible Project. References: <003601c3fa97$dc374040$106fc897@sherine1> Message-ID: <011101c3fb56$e6cc1700$0100a8c0@levi> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C3FB20.0F1BA0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sword Team & KMTAye, Greetings. Sorry for the late reply. I have been on the road for some = missions trip. I have recently revisited Myanmar was out internet communication for a = while. Updates on the Myanmar Bible Project: Phase 1: Complete Burmese Language Bible Software. 1. New Testament (Judson Version) has been completed typed and in the = process of editing. 2. Old Testament (Judson Version) has begun and will take 1-3 months to = complete typing. Began to interface this soft copy of Judson Version Burmese Bible with = the Sword Project Platform. Have 8 volunteers in Myanmar, Malaysia and USA helping right now. Target to complete the Beta version of Burmese Bible by December 2004. = New Testament by July 2004. Need Help: (1) To produce Burmese Unicode for the software..... so that the entire = software can be operated by Burmese literate people with no English = functionality. There is currently Myanmar fonts and the "ability to do = word processing using this true type fonts." PHASE 2: Complete Chin, Kachin, Karen and other Myanmar languages . 1. Many of these tribal languages used Roman alphabets and therefore = post lesser technical challenges. I am confident to be able to secure = permission for various Bible Societies to install the Bible into the = sword project. PHASE 3: Bible Commentaries, Bible Dictionary, Sermons and other helps = in Burmese language. PHASE 4: Making the Myanmar Bible Software available to the Myanmar = churches world-wide. PHASE 5: Continual Research and Development of more Myanmar Bible = Reference Materials. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C3FB20.0F1BA0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear  Sword Team &=20 KMTAye,
 
Greetings. Sorry for the late reply. I have been = on the=20 road for some missions trip.
I have recently revisited Myanmar was out = internet=20 communication for a while.
 
Updates on the Myanmar Bible=20 Project:
 
Phase 1: Complete Burmese Language = Bible=20 Software.
1. New Testament (Judson Version) has been = completed typed=20 and in the process of editing.
2. Old Testament (Judson Version) has begun and = will take=20 1-3 months to complete typing.
 
Began to interface this soft copy of Judson = Version=20 Burmese Bible with the Sword Project Platform.
Have 8 volunteers in Myanmar, Malaysia and = USA=20 helping right now.
Target to complete the Beta version of Burmese = Bible by=20 December 2004. New Testament by July 2004.
 
Need Help:
(1) To produce Burmese Unicode for the = software..... so=20 that the entire software can be operated by Burmese literate people with = no=20 English functionality. There is currently Myanmar fonts and the "ability = to do=20 word processing using this true type fonts."
 
PHASE 2: Complete Chin, Kachin, = Karen and=20 other Myanmar languages .
1.  Many of these tribal languages used = Roman=20 alphabets and therefore post lesser technical challenges. I am confident = to be=20 able to secure permission for various Bible Societies to install the = Bible into=20 the sword project.
 
PHASE 3: Bible Commentaries, Bible = Dictionary,=20 Sermons and other helps in Burmese language.
 
PHASE 4: Making the Myanmar Bible = Software=20 available to the Myanmar churches = world-wide.
 
PHASE 5: Continual Research and = Development of=20 more Myanmar Bible Reference Materials.
 
------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C3FB20.0F1BA0E0-- From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Feb 25 14:39:34 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Frank Yung-Fong Tang) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:39:34 -0500 Subject: [sword-devel] Updates- Myanmar Bible Project. In-Reply-To: <011101c3fb56$e6cc1700$0100a8c0@levi> References: <003601c3fa97$dc374040$106fc897@sherine1> <011101c3fb56$e6cc1700$0100a8c0@levi> Message-ID: <403CB3A6.9060109@aol.com> Are you using UTF-8 encoding for all these text?

Levi Lim wrote:

Dear  Sword Team & KMTAye,
 
Greetings. Sorry for the late reply. I have been on the road for some missions trip.
I have recently revisited Myanmar was out internet communication for a while.
 
Updates on the Myanmar Bible Project:
 
Phase 1: Complete Burmese Language Bible Software.
1. New Testament (Judson Version) has been completed typed and in the process of editing.
2. Old Testament (Judson Version) has begun and will take 1-3 months to complete typing.
 
Began to interface this soft copy of Judson Version Burmese Bible with the Sword Project Platform.
Have 8 volunteers in Myanmar, Malaysia and USA helping right now.
Target to complete the Beta version of Burmese Bible by December 2004. New Testament by July 2004.
 
Need Help:
(1) To produce Burmese Unicode for the software..... so that the entire software can be operated by Burmese literate people with no English functionality. There is currently Myanmar fonts and the "ability to do word processing using this true type fonts."
 
PHASE 2: Complete Chin, Kachin, Karen and other Myanmar languages .
1.  Many of these tribal languages used Roman alphabets and therefore post lesser technical challenges. I am confident to be able to secure permission for various Bible Societies to install the Bible into the sword project.
 
PHASE 3: Bible Commentaries, Bible Dictionary, Sermons and other helps in Burmese language.
 
PHASE 4: Making the Myanmar Bible Software available to the Myanmar churches world-wide.
 
PHASE 5: Continual Research and Development of more Myanmar Bible Reference Materials.
 
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 26 08:01:01 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (R.Ignatov) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:01:01 +0200 Subject: [sword-devel] I want help you... Message-ID: <20040226100101.1f2bd820@romanus.loc> Hi, my name is Roman. I am web-developer from Ukraine. Also I am preacher in a baptist churche :) I very good knowing ukrainian and russian languages :) and good understend the englesh language ;), but so-so for writing in englesh Therefore, I think I can be translator for "Correspondence Translation" and "Software Translation", for the time being, I think so. May God bless you and your ministry, Roman From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Feb 26 12:55:53 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (R.Ignatov) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:55:53 +0200 Subject: [sword-devel] I want help you... Message-ID: <403DECD9.6050409@infocreek.com> Hi, my name is Roman. I am web-developer from Ukraine. Also I am preacher in a baptist churche :) I very good knowing ukrainian and russian languages :) and good understend the englesh language ;), but so-so for writing in englesh Therefore, I think I can be translator for "Correspondence Translation" and "Software Translation", for the time being, I think so. May God bless you and your ministry, Roman From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 28 05:15:16 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chuck Bearden) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 23:15:16 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] Making module from non-Biblical OSIS text? Message-ID: <20040228051516.GA6429@hal-pc.org> First, to the developers: God bless you for the work you've done on Sword. It's pretty wonderful to be able fire up BibleTime in WindowMaker. Second, I'm trying to understand how to make modules out of theological texts marked up in OSIS. The instructions at seem to be a bit out of sync with the utilities provided in the current distribution. As a test, I downloaded the OSIS file containing Augustine's "Sermon on the Mount; Harmony of the Gospels; Homilies on the Gospels" and ran the osis2mod utility against it. It seems to assume Scripture as input, because it produced four files: nt, nt.vss, ot, and ot.vss. nt and ot are empty, the .vss files contain binary data. How should I handle input texts that don't fall naturally into OT & NT? Third, is there any documentation of the target format for the modules? I'm curious as to what features it supports. I'm interested in manually adding markup for internal links from e.g. a TOC to chapters & sections listed in the TOC. Fourth, I tried to build sword-1.5.7 on my Debian box, and it seems to have choked on installmgr: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -DUSE_AUTOTOOLS -DUNIX -DGLOBCONFPATH=\"/opt/local/sword-1.5.7/etc/sword.conf\" -g -O2 -ftemplate-depth-25 -DCURLAVAILABLE -DUSELUCENE -MT installmgr.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/installmgr.Tpo -c ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp -fPIC -DPIC ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp: In member function `char sword::InstallMgr::FTPURLGetFile(void*, const char*, const char*)': ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp:153: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use this function) ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp:153: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [installmgr.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cbearden/apps/sword-1.5.7/lib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cbearden/apps/sword-1.5.7' make: *** [all] Error 2 'configure' was only invoked with the '--prefix' argument (didn't want to conflict with the Debian package), after which I typed 'make'. I'm running Sarge, and I think I have just about everything one would need to build most things. I don't know C or C++, so I'm not sure of the significance of this error. Again, thanks for all your hard work! Best wishes, Chuck Bearden From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 28 08:33:23 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:33:23 +0000 Subject: [sword-devel] Making module from non-Biblical OSIS text? In-Reply-To: <20040228051516.GA6429@hal-pc.org> References: <20040228051516.GA6429@hal-pc.org> Message-ID: <1077957203.3895.3.camel@ekonomikrisis> On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 05:15, Chuck Bearden wrote: > Fourth, I tried to build sword-1.5.7 on my Debian box, and it seems to > have choked on installmgr: > > g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -DUSE_AUTOTOOLS -DUNIX > -DGLOBCONFPATH=\"/opt/local/sword-1.5.7/etc/sword.conf\" -g -O2 > -ftemplate-depth-25 -DCURLAVAILABLE -DUSELUCENE -MT installmgr.lo -MD > -MP -MF .deps/installmgr.Tpo -c ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp -fPIC -DPIC > ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp: In member function `char > sword::InstallMgr::FTPURLGetFile(void*, const char*, const char*)': > ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp:153: error: `TRUE' undeclared (first use this > function) > ../src/mgr/installmgr.cpp:153: error: (Each undeclared identifier is > reported > only once for each function it appears in.) > make[2]: *** [installmgr.lo] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cbearden/apps/sword-1.5.7/lib' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cbearden/apps/sword-1.5.7' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > 'configure' was only invoked with the '--prefix' argument (didn't > want to conflict with the Debian package), after which I typed > 'make'. I'm running Sarge, and I think I have just about everything one > would need to build most things. I don't know C or C++, so I'm not sure > of the significance of this error. This part I can answer :) Just 'apt-get install libsword-dev'. 1.5.7 is already in sarge. If you still want to build it you need to change TRUE to 1 (the curl API has changed since 1.5.7 was released). Regards, Daniel From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Feb 28 16:44:49 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chuck Bearden) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:44:49 -0600 Subject: [sword-devel] Making module from non-Biblical OSIS text? In-Reply-To: <1077957203.3895.3.camel@ekonomikrisis> References: <20040228051516.GA6429@hal-pc.org> <1077957203.3895.3.camel@ekonomikrisis> Message-ID: <20040228164449.GA4300@hal-pc.org> On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 08:33:23AM +0000, Daniel Glassey wrote: > On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 05:15, Chuck Bearden wrote: [...] > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cbearden/apps/sword-1.5.7/lib' > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cbearden/apps/sword-1.5.7' > > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > > > 'configure' was only invoked with the '--prefix' argument (didn't > > want to conflict with the Debian package), after which I typed > > 'make'. I'm running Sarge, and I think I have just about everything one > > would need to build most things. I don't know C or C++, so I'm not sure > > of the significance of this error. > > This part I can answer :) Just 'apt-get install libsword-dev'. 1.5.7 is > already in sarge. > > If you still want to build it you need to change TRUE to 1 (the curl API > has changed since 1.5.7 was released). Many thanks, Daniel. I already have libsword-dev. I did want to build my own copy and install it in an alternate location. A few of the utilities are not included (e.g. (thml|xml)2gbs), and I wanted to try to build them for experimentation. I realize they may be broken. I will try your suggestion. Chuck From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Feb 29 15:40:10 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Johan Gorter) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:40:10 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] Windows CE: application layout In-Reply-To: <40312798.7070500@crosswire.org> Message-ID: <000401c3feda$509b0c50$cd8a5982@DRSOONGVAIO> Hello Troy and other people interested in the windows CE version, I successfully made the second gui to the windows CE version. There is a new project added to the workspace which generates a simple gui for just reading a bible. The original project generates a gui which we can extend further. I already added a page which can contain a second translation for instance. I also left instructions in the abstract NavPage class on how to make a new page. I abbreviated the menu-descriptions, but I think that we should use icons here. The next step I think is to come up with which pages should be added to contain all the sword functionality. Any suggestions here? If a user wants to read a book next to the bible, or read the same text in two translations, he should be able to switch between them using just one 'click'. There are some minor issues to address as well: - When a new testament is opened, I get three error messages complaining that error 32 occurs (The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.) for every file used by the testament. After clicking these away, the program works fine. I think that these files maybe get opened twice or something. - When compiling the dll, I get an error in 'osisref'. I used some creativity to make it compile again, but I do not know if what I did was correct. Also two annoying warnings occur in SWBuf, which I fixed. I did not check this in, but I can send the patches. By the way, what are the differences between a SWBuf and a std::string? I could not come up with any. Troy, can you put the files you used to have greek, hebrew and a lexicon into a zip file (and maybe add instructions like in our first zipfile)? That should make it much easier for me to understand what the application should do. In Him, Johan From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Feb 29 23:43:36 2004 From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:43:36 +0100 Subject: [sword-devel] GerLut as OSIS module now Message-ID: <200403010043.50524.junkmail@joachim.ansorgs.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I uploaded a new GerLut module now, it's in OSIS now and was converted from our old GBF module. It's hopefully one of the very few left non-OSIS modules with strongs included. Of course, searching is now ten times slower :=) The GBFOSIS filter was fixes for this, too. The THMLOSIS filter still needs fixing, but this shouldn't be that hard any more, it's almost the same as GBFHTML. Please test, if everything seems right I'll upload to the public area in two week or so. Joachim - -- <>< Re: deemed! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQnk0EyRIb2AZBB0RAiTjAJ9ItorWGP04jQwRw4b9XiDAI3mGlACcCV75 CMYHRQNJXEMwm0pKgyBoNNw= =GVzI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

 

Hello. I am = Anthony=20 Zee, a new member of the Myanmar Bible Translation team introduced by = Levi in a=20 mail sent early Feb.

 

We were = discussing=20 about the possibility of database merging to ease the Myanmar Bible = Database=20 compilation. As of now, we have multiple part of Myanmar Bible in = individual=20 files which need to be compiled into Sword database. Currently, we use = to cut=20 and paste Myanmar Bible text from individual files to Sword program but = it is=20 quite time consuming.

 

Will it be = difficult to=20 import these files from Sword database? Please advise if there are any = other=20 methods we can use to compile the Myanmar Bible text to Sword database.=20

 

Thanks.

 

B.Rgds,

Anthony

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Sherine=20 [mailto:sherine@e.com.my]
Sent: Monday, = February 02,=20 2004 2:04=20 PM
To: Anthony Zee
Subject: Fw: Myanmar=20 Bible

 

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Levi Lim=20

To: sword-devel@crosswire.org=20

Cc: Lay = Kheng=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 February 01, 2004 10:40 PM

Subject: Myanmar=20 Bible

 

Dear = Sword=20 team,

 

Greetings. I am=20 introducing to you a new member of the Myanmar Bible Translation. His = name is=20 Anthony Zee (csherine@tm.net.my) and he=20 has good technical know how regarding software development. He will work = alongside with me and will be in correspondence with the sword team from = time to=20 time.

 

Thanks.=20

Levi