[sword-devel] PLEASE READ: bounced messages
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The sword-devel list is setup so as to not allow spam to be sent to the
list. One measure that is taken is to only allow messages from
SUBSCRIBED email address. If you try to send to the list from an
address which is not subscribed, the message bounces to me, instead of
the list. Here are several messages that I will forward. Please review
and see if any of these is YOUR message. If you, please use a different
address to send to the list, or email me and I will be happy to change
your subscribed address to the one from which you sent these messages.
Thanks again for all the great comments. Hoping to see everyone that
desires to have the opportunity to contribute to the project.
-Troy.
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From: Christian Renz <crenz@web42.com>
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Subject: New module: Chinese dictionary
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Hello,
first of all -- I discovered the Sword Project a few days ago, and I
am very impressed by the huge amount of modules available. Praise God!
I am working on creating dictionaries for the Sword Project, using the
CEDICT project (a freely available Chinese dictionary; I already
contacted the author about his copyright terms and hope he'll rely
soon). As you might know, the standard Chinese (Mandarin) uses the
Pinyin system for transliteration. Therefore, I created three
dictionaries, so that words can be searched by english translation,
characters and pinyin. (This is for simplified characters, once that
works, I'll do the same for traditional characters.) I converted the
GB2312 dictionary file to UTF-8, then used a perl script to generate
the dictionary files (calling addld).
So far, so good. The dictionary has 15000 to 20000 entries (depening
on direction) and the pinyin and english dictionaries work well. I
still have to do some formatting (tone marks, nice layout etc).
Now, after this lengthy introduction, on to my questions and issues
(anybody still reading?):
(general issues)
- Has anybody come up with an utility to add more than one entry? It
should be easy to modify addld to read its input from a file, but I
don't have the time to do the programming right now, and I was
hoping that somebody already did that. On my slow little Linux
server, creating the dictionaries takes about fifty minutes -- just
because the script has to start tens of thousands of processes!
- What are the ThML tags for formatting available in the Sword Project
viewers? Is there something like a table tag? I'd like to group
entries e.g. by same pronounciation. Also, does the big tag work? It
would be useful to display the characters in a bigger typeface.
(Issues with the windows version of the Sword Project and the Glory
Union Bible, Simplified Characters)
- There is some confusion with the code tables used to display text in
the windows software. Apparently, in the bible text windows the text
is displayed as GB2312 rather than UTF-8. The search combo box uses
the system font, which is not capable of displaying anything else
than iso8859-1 on my machine, so I don't see character at all. (Have
to try out Windows 2000, though. Might be better on that platform.)
What is the situation for other platforms (Linux, Mac OS X)? Is the
text of the Glory Union Bible displayed as GB2312 also? If yes, I
could try to keep the definitions as UTF-8, but encode the search
terms as GB2312.
- When looking up a term, it is displayed in the upper left corner, in
a small, blue typeface. This is not useful for the characters
dictionary, because the term is displayed in a Western encoding, not
in Unicode... if I put the characters inside the definition, they
are displayed just fine. Can the display of the search term in the
definition window somehow be suppressed?
Thanks for your help!
Greetings and blessings,
Christian Renz
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:06, Daniel Freedman wrote:
> I think this discussion is quite hilarious....
I think the followups have been quite informative. Thanks, all!
Cheers; Leon
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Where is the Windows CE sword? I have never seen that before, but that
would be very interesting to try out!
--
Jeremy Bettis, Software Development Manager
HKS Medical Information Systems, Inc.
jeremyb@hksys.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Drake [mailto:b.drake@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:31 AM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] General book
>=20
> Hi there ...
>=20
> This may be well known - I'm only recently back on this list. I have
just
> tried the general book support (WinCE - latest Beta release) and find
it
> incredibly slow to load the books. Worse - if I leave a general book
open
> when closing Sword down, it takes forever to re-start next time I fire
it
> up.
>=20
> Also, after a report that the personal commentary wouldn't work in the
> Beta
> release, I tried it. It won't accept a write. I did check that all
the
> necessary files are not marked read-only - I had that problem once
before.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
>=20
> Barry
>=20
> From Barry Drake (The Revd - minister of the Arnold and the
Netherfield
> United
> Reformed Churches, Nottingham - see http://www.arnold-urc.supanet.com
for
> our
> church homepages).
>=20
> Replies - b.drake@ntlworld.com
> Fax: 0705 069 8746
>=20
>=20
>=20
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Where is the Windows CE sword? I have never seen =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jeremy Bettis, Software Development Manager</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>HKS Medical Information Systems, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>jeremyb@hksys.com</FONT>
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<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: Barry Drake [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:b.drake@ntlworld.com">mailto:b.drake@ntlworld.com</A>]</FO=
NT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:31 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: [sword-devel] General book</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Hi there ...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> This may be well known - I'm only recently back =
on this list. I have just</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> tried the general book support (WinCE - latest =
Beta release) and find it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> incredibly slow to load the books. Worse - =
if I leave a general book open</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> when closing Sword down, it takes forever to =
re-start next time I fire it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> up.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Also, after a report that the personal =
commentary wouldn't work in the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Beta</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> release, I tried it. It won't accept a =
write. I did check that all the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> necessary files are not marked read-only - I had =
that problem once before.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Barry</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From Barry Drake (The Revd - minister of the =
Arnold and the Netherfield</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> United</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Reformed Churches, Nottingham - see <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.arnold-urc.supanet.com">http://www.arnold-urc.supanet.=
com</A> for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> our</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> church homepages).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Replies - b.drake@ntlworld.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Fax: 0705 069 8746</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:58, Daniel Freedman wrote:
>> As for the accuracy of the Torah Scroll here are some basic rules that a
>> sofer (torah scribe) must follow when copying the text.
>> 1. The sofer may not write even one letter by memory. A second kosher
>> scroll must be open to him from which to copy at all times.
>> 2. The sofer must pronounce every word out loud before writing it.
>> 3. Every letter must be surrounded by sufficient white space so that no
>> two letters touch.
>> 4. Each letter must be distinguishable/recognizable to the average
>> schoolchild.
>> 5. The sofer must not alter the design of sections, line lengths,
>> or paragraph configurations.
> These are points that I felt were not necessary to the discussion. They
> are true obviously, but I thought these points were too detailed to be
> posted on this forum.
Really? This tickles my funnybone. Why did you quote them in full to say so?
Cheers; Leon
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Either I haven't noticed it or it may not be present, but I was looking for
the menu item, or what used to be a menu item that controlled the strong's
numbering? This could be a possible bug, when I went to one of my modules
that contained the numbering it was on.
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serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New module: Chinese dictionary
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Thanks for your comments, Steve and Martin. I contacted the current
maintainer of CEDICT (he has taken over the project in 2000 after the
old author disappeared -- probably the guy you contacted, Steve). His
comment was "This sounds like the kind of project CEDICT was created
for." So no copyright issues here. He'll send me some copyright
statement, but the distribution is okay.
>You should encode everything in UTF-8 if possible. The GB2312 (whatever that
OK, I'll leave everything in UTF-8. I'll post a beta version of the
dictionaries in a day or two. Actually, I have it ready, I just don't
have the time to post it now, since I have to move tomorrow ;-)
Greetings,
Christian Renz
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