)
*=20
* This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
*=20
* @author Bobby Nations
* @date $Date: $
* @version $Revision: $
*=20
* @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
* @see some.other.package
*/
public class CanonTest extends TestCase
{
/**
* Constructor (needed for JTest)
* @param name Name of Object
*/
public CanonTest(String name) {
super(name);
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
*/
protected void setUp() {
canon =3D new Canon();
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
*/
protected void tearDown() {
canon =3D null;
}
/**
* Test the constructor: Canon()
*/
public void testCanon() {
}
/**
* Test the old testament books array #1
*/
public void testOTBooks1() {
assertTrue( "Genesis" =3D=3D canon.otbooks[0].name );
assertTrue( 50 =3D=3D canon.otbooks[0].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the old testament books array #2
*/
public void testOTBooks2() {
assertTrue( "Psalms" =3D=3D canon.otbooks[18].name );
assertTrue( 150 =3D=3D canon.otbooks[18].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the old testament books array #3
*/
public void testOTBooks3() {
assertTrue( "Malachi" =3D=3D canon.otbooks[38].name );
assertTrue( 4 =3D=3D canon.otbooks[38].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array length
*/
public void testOTBooksLength() {
assertTrue( 39 =3D=3D canon.otbooks.length );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array #1
*/
public void testNTBooks1() {
assertTrue( "Matthew" =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[0].name );
assertTrue( 28 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[0].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array #2
*/
public void testNTBooks2() {
assertTrue( "Titus" =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[16].name );
assertTrue( 3 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[16].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array #3
*/
public void testNTBooks3() {
assertTrue( "Revelation of John" =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[26].name );
assertTrue( 22 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[26].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array length
*/
public void testNTBooksLength() {
assertTrue( 27 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks.length );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #1
*/
public void testAbbrevs1() {
assertTrue( "1 C" =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].ab );
assertTrue( 46 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].book );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #2
*/
public void testAbbrevs2() {
assertTrue( "PSALMS" =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].ab );
assertTrue( 19 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].book );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #3
*/
public void testAbbrevs3() {
int n =3D canon.builtin_abbrevs.length;
assertTrue( "" =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].ab );
assertTrue( -1 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].book );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #4
*/
public void testAbbrevsLength() {
assertTrue( 184 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs.length );
}
/**
* Main method needed to make a self runnable class
*=20
* @param args This is required for main method
*/
public static void main(String[] args) {
junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(CanonTest.class) );
}
private Canon canon;
}
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Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SWKeyTest.java
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/x-c++; charset=ISO-8859-1
// SWKeyTest.java
package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
import junit.framework.TestCase;
import junit.framework.TestSuite;
/**
* SWKeyTest (Copyright 2001 )
*=20
* This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
*=20
*
Explanation about the tested class and its responsibilities
*=20
* Relations:
* SWKey extends java.lang.Object
* SWKey implements java.lang.Cloneable, java.lang.Comparable
*=20
* @author -
* @date $Date: $
* @version $Revision: $
*=20
* @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
* @see some.other.package
*/
public class SWKeyTest extends TestCase
{
/**
* Constructor (needed for JTest)
* @param name Name of Object
*/
public SWKeyTest(String name) {
super(name);
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
*/
protected void setUp() {
//swkey =3D new SWKey();
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
*/
protected void tearDown() {
swkey =3D null;
}
/**
* Test the constructor: SWKey()
*/
public void testSWKey() {
}
/**
* Test the constructor: SWKey(String)
*/
public void testSWKey_1() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
String str [] =3D {null, "\u0000", " "};
}
/**
* Test the constructor: SWKey(SWKey)
*/
public void testSWKey_2() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
//SWKey;
}
/**
* Test method: int compareTo(Object)
*/
public void testCompareTo() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
Object oValues [] =3D { null };
}
/**
* Test method: java.lang.Object clone()
*/
public void testClone() {
}
/**
* Test method: String toString()
*/
public void testToString() {
}
/**
* Test method: void set(SWKey)
*/
public void testSet() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
//SWKey;
}
/**
* Test method: void next(int)
*/
public void testNext_1() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
int intValues [] =3D {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
}
/**
* Test method: void next()
*/
public void testNext() {
}
/**
* Test method: void previous(int)
*/
public void testPrevious_1() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
int intValues [] =3D {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
}
/**
* Test method: void previous()
*/
public void testPrevious() {
}
/**
* Test method: String getText()
*/
public void testGetText() {
}
/**
* Test method: int getError()
*/
public void testGetError() {
}
/**
* Test method: void position(int)
*/
public void testPosition() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
int intValues [] =3D {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
}
/**
* Test method: boolean isPersist()
*/
public void testIsPersist() {
}
/**
* Test method: void setPersist(boolean)
*/
public void testSetPersist() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
boolean BValues [] =3D { true, false };
}
/**
* Test method: boolean traversable()
*/
public void testTraversable() {
}
/**
* Test method: void setText(String)
*/
public void testSetText() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
String str [] =3D {null, "\u0000", " "};
}
/**
* Main method needed to make a self runnable class
*=20
* @param args This is required for main method
*/
public static void main(String[] args) {
junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(SWKeyTest.class) );
}
private SWKey swkey;
}
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 11:43:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:43:33 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <20020114114356.0C2DC32593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Sunday 13 January 2002 01:39, Chris Little wrote:
> We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
> of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
> Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
> sources?
The JEDP hypothesis?
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/dochypo.html
In point of fact, Gensis does have some ``natural'' subdivisions in it, each
one ``signed'' for the people it relates to, but that's quite a different
concept to JEDP's post-facto amalgamation.
http://www.rae.org/bits10.htm
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 11:49:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:49:33 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <001601c19bcf$ade38830$5c972fc3@vilsterlaptop> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please explain?
> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument over
> this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as facts,
why has debate ensued?
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 13:02:00 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:02:00 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
Message-ID: <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
>
> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
> explain?
I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to spell
out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
messiah.
> > As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument over
> > this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
>
> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as
> facts, why has debate ensued?
Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that
particular custom was well known.
> Cheers; Leon
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7:29am up 33 days, 15:18, 10 users, load average: 0.26, 0.21, 0.08
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 15:48:58 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:48:58 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <3C41F40E.A34E55E0@crosswire.org>
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020114094839.00a7cdd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
That solved the problem. Thanks, Troy.
At 01:54 PM 1/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey guys,
> Sorry for no one responding to you sooner. We seem to be having
>problems with our servlet on the beta site that builds the installer.
>For now, you'll have to use installmgr by pointing it to:
>site:
>sword.cx
>path:
>pub/sword/betaraw
>
>or just download the files directly from that ftp location.
>
> Sorry for the troubles.
>
> -Troy.
>
>
>
>Scott Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Lloyd,
> >
> > I just recently joined the list, and expressed a similar problem
> > installing locked modules. If you find out the solution, I'd appreciate
> > hearing about it, if it isn't published on the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > I sent the following message last Friday, 1/4, and now again today,
> > > Saturday, 1/12. Since I'm new at this, I don't know what protocols
> > > you follow in answering questions/responding to bug reports. If I'm
> > > getting in too big a hurry, I'm sorry, I'm just anxious to be able to
> > > get on with testing this software.
> > >
> > > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> > > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
> > >
> > > Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> > > the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> > > to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> > > translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> > > I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> > > previously).
> > >
> > > The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> > > already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> > > opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> > > entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
> > > At that point, I didn't know what to do: should I click on "TRY" or
> > > "OK"?
> > >
> > > I ended up trying both on different runs. When I clicked on TRY, my
> > > machine simply sat there with no indication of any activity of any
> > > sort (no disk activity, no Internet activity, nothing). After about 7
> > > minutes, I clicked on OK. The installation immediately opened a
> > > window indicating it was ready to try to install NIV (opened the
> > > cipher window). I cancelled the installation.
> > >
> > > I looked at the /modules/texts/ directory to see what had been created
> > > this time since on prior install attempts there was no rawtext
> > > directory, only a ztext directory. This time there was a rawtext
> > > directory containing KJV. I then looked at the mods.d directory to
> > > see what .conf files had been created. There was one for KJV which
> > > pointed to /rawtext/ via DataPath. There was also one for NASB95. It
> > > contained the correct CipherKey and DataPath, but there was no NASB95
> > > directory in /rawtext/.
> > >
> > > I tried unzipping the NASB95 file I had previously downloaded from the
> > > beta section and ran the Setup.Exe. No NASB95 was created under
> > > /rawtext/.
> > >
> > > My conclusion is that the installation works just great using either
> > > InstallMgr or doing it manually by downloading, unzipping, and running
> > > Setup as long as the file is not a locked file. There appears to be a
> > > real problem, however, whenever a locked file is involved.
> > >
> > > Any help you can give me at this point would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 17:50:01 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:50:01 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
Message-ID: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org>
There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
least for now).
In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
see how to use it.
* FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
work.
* WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR sword.conf in
/usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
Usual place:
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/
file: clxSWORD.tar.gz
[KJV][Ephesians 5:2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and
hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
sweetsmelling savour.
Goodnight!
-Troy.
______________________________________
MainForm.pas:
unit MainFrm;
interface
uses
SysUtils, Types, Classes, Variants, QGraphics, QControls, QForms,
QDialogs,
QStdCtrls, QComCtrls, QExtCtrls, Sword;
type
TForm1 = class(TForm)
Panel1: TPanel;
Panel2: TPanel;
Panel3: TPanel;
TreeView1: TTreeView;
Button1: TButton;
Edit1: TEdit;
Label1: TLabel;
TextBrowser1: TTextBrowser;
procedure Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
procedure TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
procedure Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
private
procedure lookup();
public
{ Public declarations }
end;
var
Form1: TForm1;
mgr : SWMgr;
implementation
{$R *.xfm}
procedure TForm1.Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
begin
lookup();
end;
procedure TForm1.lookup();
var
module : SWModule;
node : TTreeNode;
begin
node := TreeView1.Selected;
if (node <> nil) then
begin
module := mgr.getModuleByName(node.Text);
if (module <> nil) then
begin
module.setKeyText(Edit1.Text);
TextBrowser1.Text :=
'' +
'' + module.getKeyText() + ' ' +
module.getRenderText() +
'';
Label1.Caption := ': ' + module.getKeyText();
end;
end;
end;
procedure TForm1.TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
begin
lookup();
end;
procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
begin
Application.Terminate;
end;
procedure TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
begin
mgr := SWMgr.Create;
end;
procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
var
root, node : TTreeNode;
module : SWModule;
modIt : ModIterator;
found : Boolean;
begin
modIt := mgr.getModulesIterator;
module := modIt.getValue;
while (module <> nil) do
begin
node := TreeView1.Items.GetFirstNode;
found := false;
while ((node <> nil) AND (NOT found)) do
begin
if (node.Text = module.getType) then
found := true
else node := node.getNextSibling;
end;
if (node = nil) then
node := TreeView1.Items.AddChild(TreeView1.TopItem,
module.GetType());
TreeView1.Items.AddChild(node, module.GetName());
modIt.Next;
module := modIt.getValue;
end;
end;
end.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 18:45:42 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 14 Jan 2002 13:45:42 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
In-Reply-To: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org>
References: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1011033943.12905.0.camel@office>
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 12:50, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
> exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
> least for now).
>
Troy,
I'm getting this error
flatapi.cpp: In function `long int SWMgr_getModulesIterator (long
int)':
flatapi.cpp:53: warning: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `ModItType'
with no type
> In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
>
> There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
> see how to use it.
>
> * FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
> you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
> experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
> Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
> the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
> of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
> work.
>
> * WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
> over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
> DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR sword.conf in
> /usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
>
> Usual place:
>
> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/
>
> file: clxSWORD.tar.gz
>
>
>
>
> [KJV][Ephesians 5:2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and
> hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
> sweetsmelling savour.
>
> Goodnight!
> -Troy.
>
>
> ______________________________________
> MainForm.pas:
>
> unit MainFrm;
>
> interface
>
> uses
> SysUtils, Types, Classes, Variants, QGraphics, QControls, QForms,
> QDialogs,
> QStdCtrls, QComCtrls, QExtCtrls, Sword;
>
> type
> TForm1 = class(TForm)
> Panel1: TPanel;
> Panel2: TPanel;
> Panel3: TPanel;
> TreeView1: TTreeView;
> Button1: TButton;
> Edit1: TEdit;
> Label1: TLabel;
> TextBrowser1: TTextBrowser;
> procedure Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> procedure TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> procedure Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> private
> procedure lookup();
> public
> { Public declarations }
> end;
>
> var
> Form1: TForm1;
> mgr : SWMgr;
>
> implementation
>
> {$R *.xfm}
>
> procedure TForm1.Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> begin
> lookup();
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.lookup();
> var
> module : SWModule;
> node : TTreeNode;
>
> begin
> node := TreeView1.Selected;
> if (node <> nil) then
> begin
> module := mgr.getModuleByName(node.Text);
> if (module <> nil) then
> begin
> module.setKeyText(Edit1.Text);
>
> TextBrowser1.Text :=
> '' +
> '' + module.getKeyText() + ' ' +
> module.getRenderText() +
> '';
>
> Label1.Caption := ': ' + module.getKeyText();
> end;
> end;
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> begin
> lookup();
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> begin
> Application.Terminate;
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> begin
> mgr := SWMgr.Create;
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> var
> root, node : TTreeNode;
> module : SWModule;
> modIt : ModIterator;
> found : Boolean;
>
> begin
> modIt := mgr.getModulesIterator;
> module := modIt.getValue;
> while (module <> nil) do
> begin
> node := TreeView1.Items.GetFirstNode;
> found := false;
> while ((node <> nil) AND (NOT found)) do
> begin
> if (node.Text = module.getType) then
> found := true
> else node := node.getNextSibling;
> end;
> if (node = nil) then
> node := TreeView1.Items.AddChild(TreeView1.TopItem,
> module.GetType());
>
> TreeView1.Items.AddChild(node, module.GetName());
>
> modIt.Next;
> module := modIt.getValue;
> end;
> end;
>
> end.
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 20:09:28 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:09:28 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
References: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org> <1011033943.12905.0.camel@office>
Message-ID: <3C433AF8.B2EAEBBD@crosswire.org>
Terry,
Sorry, just commited the latest header.
Also, there seems to be symlink errors in the tarball. You'll need to
point them to the current directory, NOT /usr/local/kylix/bin
-Troy.
Terry Biggs wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 12:50, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
> > exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
> > least for now).
> >
> Troy,
> I'm getting this error
>
> flatapi.cpp: In function `long int SWMgr_getModulesIterator (long
> int)':
> flatapi.cpp:53: warning: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `ModItType'
> with no type
>
> > In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
> >
> > There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
> > see how to use it.
> >
> > * FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
> > you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
> > experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
> > Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
> > the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
> > of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
> > work.
> >
> > * WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
> > over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
> > DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR sword.conf in
> > /usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
> >
> > Usual place:
> >
> > http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/
> >
> > file: clxSWORD.tar.gz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [KJV][Ephesians 5:2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and
> > hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
> > sweetsmelling savour.
> >
> > Goodnight!
> > -Troy.
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________
> > MainForm.pas:
> >
> > unit MainFrm;
> >
> > interface
> >
> > uses
> > SysUtils, Types, Classes, Variants, QGraphics, QControls, QForms,
> > QDialogs,
> > QStdCtrls, QComCtrls, QExtCtrls, Sword;
> >
> > type
> > TForm1 = class(TForm)
> > Panel1: TPanel;
> > Panel2: TPanel;
> > Panel3: TPanel;
> > TreeView1: TTreeView;
> > Button1: TButton;
> > Edit1: TEdit;
> > Label1: TLabel;
> > TextBrowser1: TTextBrowser;
> > procedure Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> > procedure TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> > procedure Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> > procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> > procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> > private
> > procedure lookup();
> > public
> > { Public declarations }
> > end;
> >
> > var
> > Form1: TForm1;
> > mgr : SWMgr;
> >
> > implementation
> >
> > {$R *.xfm}
> >
> > procedure TForm1.Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> > begin
> > lookup();
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.lookup();
> > var
> > module : SWModule;
> > node : TTreeNode;
> >
> > begin
> > node := TreeView1.Selected;
> > if (node <> nil) then
> > begin
> > module := mgr.getModuleByName(node.Text);
> > if (module <> nil) then
> > begin
> > module.setKeyText(Edit1.Text);
> >
> > TextBrowser1.Text :=
> > '' +
> > '' + module.getKeyText() + ' ' +
> > module.getRenderText() +
> > '';
> >
> > Label1.Caption := ': ' + module.getKeyText();
> > end;
> > end;
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> > begin
> > lookup();
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> > begin
> > Application.Terminate;
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> > begin
> > mgr := SWMgr.Create;
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> > var
> > root, node : TTreeNode;
> > module : SWModule;
> > modIt : ModIterator;
> > found : Boolean;
> >
> > begin
> > modIt := mgr.getModulesIterator;
> > module := modIt.getValue;
> > while (module <> nil) do
> > begin
> > node := TreeView1.Items.GetFirstNode;
> > found := false;
> > while ((node <> nil) AND (NOT found)) do
> > begin
> > if (node.Text = module.getType) then
> > found := true
> > else node := node.getNextSibling;
> > end;
> > if (node = nil) then
> > node := TreeView1.Items.AddChild(TreeView1.TopItem,
> > module.GetType());
> >
> > TreeView1.Items.AddChild(node, module.GetName());
> >
> > modIt.Next;
> > module := modIt.getValue;
> > end;
> > end;
> >
> > end.
> >
> --
>
> Terry
>
> Rev 1:5
> "...Unto him that loved us, and washed
> us from our sins in his own blood."
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 20:14:49 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:14:49 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
In-Reply-To: <3C4323BF.10771.1F38C47@localhost>
References: <3C4323BF.10771.1F38C47@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201142021.NAA30523@www.crosswire.org>
> There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
> exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
> least for now).
>
> In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
>
> There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
> see how to use it.
>
> * FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
> you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
> experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
> Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
> the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
> of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
> work.
>
> * WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
> over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
> DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR
> sword.conf in
> /usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
distro Debian testing/unstable
after a few twiddles it worked
the symlinks for libqt and libqtinf are wrong /usr/local/kylix2
need to link
libqtintf-6.5-qt2.3.so -> libqtintf-6.5.0-qt2.3.so
remove the libqt link, works ok with the system library
need to link libstdc++ as it is named differently on debian
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 -> /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.so
it had to be run as
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./ ./test1
(dunno why the script clxSWORD didn't work)
Looking great, great work :)
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 21:03:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Allen Foster)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:03:27 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Software Tester - Graphic Artwork
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I would like to be primarily a software tester but also if you have any =
graphic artwork that needs to be done I can do that as well. I have =
downloaded and installed the NIV text and it does not allow me to get in =
to see that. Is there a way that I can get the key for that.=20
Thanks,
Allen Foster
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 23:21:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Michael Rempel)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:21:23 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
> On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> >
> > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
> > apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
> > explain?
>
> I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
spell
> out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> messiah.
Your choices are your own, but why then do you concern yourself with this
group?
Shalom,
Michael
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 23:40:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Overcash)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:40:43 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID:
> > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> >
> > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
> spell
> > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> > messiah.
So, you are saying that Jesus is a God? And because Jewish and Christian
believe together in one true God, you are saying that Jesus is God? Just
curious, seemed very contradictory.
-Dave Overcash
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 06:25:11 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:25:11 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote:
> On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
>> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
>>>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
>> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
>> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
>> explain?
> I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to spell
> out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> messiah.
Hmm... I guess you'd onkly be interested in OT modules then. I've always
wondered, who does someone in your situation identify as the beaten, bruised,
plain-looking and murdered but peaceful servant/saviour of Isaiah 53
(referred to in 1Peter 2:24, quoted here from the KJV):
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry
ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is
no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a
man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces
from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our
griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of
God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised
for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his
stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned
every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us
all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he
is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is
dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from
judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the
land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And
he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he
had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the
LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul
an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and
the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the
travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my
righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore
will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil
with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was
numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made
intercession for the transgressors.
>>> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument
>>> over this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
>> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as
>> facts, why has debate ensued?
> Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that
> particular custom was well known.
Ruthless, yes, but not totally, and politically he did have some clues.
Washing his hands of Jesus was a believable attempt at compromise, pacifying
one band the irate locals without a potentially offensive (to other locals)
direct act.
Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
Judaic circles?
It has the ring of one of those assumed-truth arguments, the ``but of
course'' or ``as everyone knows'' throwaway. I'd check, if I were you.
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 14:35:56 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:35:56 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse> <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <0201150935560B.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Monday 14 January 2002 18:21, you wrote:
> > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> > > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> > >
> > > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew
> > > but apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold.
> > > Please explain?
> >
> > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
>
> spell
>
> > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> > messiah.
>
> Your choices are your own, but why then do you concern yourself with this
> group?
>
> Shalom,
>
> Michael
Uhhh, there are modules other than "nt". Hebrew even.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 14:46:47 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:47 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <0201150946470C.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Monday 14 January 2002 18:40, you wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> > >
> > > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
> >
> > spell
> >
> > > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> > > messiah.
>
> So, you are saying that Jesus is a God? And because Jewish and Christian
> believe together in one true God, you are saying that Jesus is God? Just
> curious, seemed very contradictory.
No, I said a god. Little g as in false.
Jew's believe in HaShem and in HaShem only. The Almighty is one. He has never
been a man and never will since He does not change.
Most (not all) xians believe in some form of "trinity" and that jes-s was
G-d. Believing that any man was/is G-d is idolatry. Since the name jes-s has
become associated with a foreign xian god that was not known from the
beginning it is not said/written.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 14:53:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:53:19 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net>
Message-ID: <0201150953190D.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 01:25, you wrote:
> On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote:
> > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> >> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> >>>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> >>
> >> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
> >> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
> >> explain?
> >
> > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
> > spell out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is
> > the messiah.
>
> Hmm... I guess you'd onkly be interested in OT modules then. I've always
> wondered, who does someone in your situation identify as the beaten,
> bruised, plain-looking and murdered but peaceful servant/saviour of Isaiah
> 53 (referred to in 1Peter 2:24, quoted here from the KJV):
The servant referred to is Israel. Notice that the servant is identified many
times in the text of Isaiah (ch 41, 44, 49, others).
> >>> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument
> >>> over this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
> >>
> >> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as
> >> facts, why has debate ensued?
> >
> > Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that
> > particular custom was well known.
>
> Ruthless, yes, but not totally, and politically he did have some clues.
> Washing his hands of Jesus was a believable attempt at compromise,
> pacifying one band the irate locals without a potentially offensive (to
> other locals) direct act.
It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of
releasing a prisoner on pesach.
> Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
> Judaic circles?
No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel.
> It has the ring of one of those assumed-truth arguments, the ``but of
> course'' or ``as everyone knows'' throwaway. I'd check, if I were you.
I have.
> Cheers; Leon
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 15:16:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:16:15 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net> <0201150953190D.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <3C4447BF.70104@bitmead.com>
>
>
>It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of
>releasing a prisoner on pesach.
>
>>Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
>>Judaic circles?
>>
>
>No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel.
>
Oh, well if it was on TV it MUST be right.
Josephus records a possibly similar incident. A group of Assasins
kidnapped a scribe belonging to the retinue of the High Priest, and held
him hostage. This happened JUST BEFORE THE FESTIVAL. They then informed
the High Priest that they wanted him to persuade the governor to release
ten of their number who were being held prisoner. The governor, Albinus,
agrees, and the prisoners are released. (Josephus, 'Antiquities', XX 9.3).
Of course, this doesn't necessarily indicate the existence of a
regular custom during a festival, but it is possibly suggestive.
Similarly, there is a mention in the Mishnah (Pes. 8.6) that a
seder may be prepared for one 'whom they have promised to bring out of
prison' , and who presumably can't prepare one for himself. Some
scholars think this presupposes some kind of regular amnesty for
Pesach. So, while there isn't proof of a custom, neither is it
possible to assume that such a custom 'couldn't' have existed, or
'didn't' exist, or that the release of a prisoner by the Roman governor
at a festival period was never practiced.
And one may ask why, if there was no such custom, the writer of a
gospel should mention it, since it would be easily disproven by any of
those alive at the time who could have very simply refuted it.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 17:38:54 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:38:54 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <3C4447BF.70104@bitmead.com>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201150953190D.17871@webserver.house.hse> <3C4447BF.70104@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <0201151238540G.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:16, you wrote:
> >It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of
> >releasing a prisoner on pesach.
> >
> >>Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
> >>Judaic circles?
> >
> >No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel.
>
> Oh, well if it was on TV it MUST be right.
I think you know what i meant.
>
> Josephus records a possibly similar incident. A group of Assasins
> kidnapped a scribe belonging to the retinue of the High Priest, and held
> him hostage. This happened JUST BEFORE THE FESTIVAL. They then informed
> the High Priest that they wanted him to persuade the governor to release
> ten of their number who were being held prisoner. The governor, Albinus,
> agrees, and the prisoners are released. (Josephus, 'Antiquities', XX 9.3).
This happened according to Josephus around the time of 62-65ce. The sicarii
had kidnapped Eleazar and the whole ordeal is described as a kind of "hostage
trade".
> Of course, this doesn't necessarily indicate the existence of a
> regular custom during a festival, but it is possibly suggestive.
Nothing of the sort actually. I certainly wasn't the governors idea to
release the ten prisoners.
> Similarly, there is a mention in the Mishnah (Pes. 8.6) that a
> seder may be prepared for one 'whom they have promised to bring out of
> prison' , and who presumably can't prepare one for himself. Some
> scholars think this presupposes some kind of regular amnesty for
> Pesach. So, while there isn't proof of a custom, neither is it
> possible to assume that such a custom 'couldn't' have existed, or
> 'didn't' exist, or that the release of a prisoner by the Roman governor
> at a festival period was never practiced.
I will check this reference an let you know what it is refering to asap.
> And one may ask why, if there was no such custom, the writer of a
> gospel should mention it, since it would be easily disproven by any of
> those alive at the time who could have very simply refuted it.
How many years later was this written? By whom? For what audience?
I think we'd better move this discussion to the news server.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 18:27:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:27:13 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <0201151238540G.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse
for theological debates:
> NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
So, that said, you have three options:
1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
anywhere you like that is not on this list.
2) Continue your discussion and be removed from this mailing list.
3) Unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list and save us the trouble of
removing you if you can't display the self control required to NOT press
that reply button.
Here's what you should be asking yourself before you press that send
button: "Does my message have anything to do with Sword development?"
If your answer is no, please don't send it. There are about 250 people
on this mailing list, none of whom signed up to hear your off-topic
discussion.
Please don't make us have to start removing people from the list or make
the list moderated.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 19:04:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:04:14 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <0201151404140I.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 13:27, you wrote:
> Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse
>
> for theological debates:
> > NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
>
> argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
>
> So, that said, you have three options:
> 1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
> anywhere you like that is not on this list.
Done...
--
2:03pm up 34 days, 21:53, 10 users, load average: 0.80, 0.24, 0.12
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 19:23:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Overcash)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:23:17 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID:
Sorry Chris, I think they may have received your request after they sent
their messages as email servers tend to be slow in delivery.
-Dave O
************************************************
Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse
for theological debates:
> NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
So, that said, you have three options:
1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
anywhere you like that is not on this list.
2) Continue your discussion and be removed from this mailing list.
3) Unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list and save us the trouble of
removing you if you can't display the self control required to NOT press
that reply button.
Here's what you should be asking yourself before you press that send
button: "Does my message have anything to do with Sword development?"
If your answer is no, please don't send it. There are about 250 people
on this mailing list, none of whom signed up to hear your off-topic
discussion.
Please don't make us have to start removing people from the list or make
the list moderated.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 20:58:22 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:58:22 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Coptic font
Message-ID: <000c01c19e07$5ec08700$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Do any of you know of a Unicode font with Coptic-style glyphs for
Greek/Coptic? (Not one that simply covers the Greek/Coptic range, since
most fonts do this using Greek-style glyphs.)
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 00:10:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:10:18 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] [possibly OT, certainly META] fireside
In-Reply-To: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <20020116001100.5333D325220@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 02:27, Chris Little wrote:
>> NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
>> argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
> So, that said, you have three options:
> 1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
> anywhere you like that is not on this list.
> 2) Continue your discussion and be removed from this mailing list.
> 3) Unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list and save us the trouble of
> removing you if you can't display the self control required to NOT press
> that reply button.
The bug in this is that generally only one side of a debate goes to fireside,
which is then left to languish unless two people of similar views settle down
to discussing fine points.
IMHO there would be a lot more value in the fireside discussions if they were
also accessible as a mailing list, then potential participants would not need
to acquire a new toolset or at least skillset in order to continue working
through differences together.
I find I generally (not always) get far more value from disagreements between
people of widely divergent views than from people patting each other on the
back, provided that those people are committed enough to what they're saying
to hang around and address the answers to their broadcasts.
If nothing else, fireside could be the foundation of a FAQ-ish module, a
collection of more-or-less-lay people's comments on and in relation to
specific Bible texts.
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 02:45:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:45:37 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
Message-ID: <000601c19e37$e0b2ab00$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Four new modules have been released publicly:
ACV (A Conservative Version)
ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
Plus an updated version of:
RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
necessary):
RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
RusGN (Russian NT)
RusWOL (Russian NT)
RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
subscribers.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 04:03:20 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (J. Patrick Smith)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:03:20 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Commandline Bible Reader?
Message-ID:
First, I'd like to thank Chris Little for ending the "To Jesus or not to
Jes-s" debate... I was just about to opt out of the mailing list before I'd
even mailed a message to say "Hi."
Now on to my message:
Hi.
I'm a linux user looking to get my feet wet with a little programing. I
honestly have very little experience in the field, but this looked like a
good project to contribute something to, and I have long wanted to write
software.
Is there currently a project to produce a command-line only bible reader
based on the sword libraries? If there is, can some one point me to the
source so I can have a look?
Thanks.
- Patrick Smith
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 04:09:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Franklin Bratcher)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:09:43 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
References: <000601c19e37$e0b2ab00$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <008201c19e43$a0ec6950$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized greek text
modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek texts for my eggdrop.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Little"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:45 PM
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
> Four new modules have been released publicly:
>
> ACV (A Conservative Version)
> ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
> ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
> ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
>
> Plus an updated version of:
>
> RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
>
>
>
> Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
> been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
> of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
> necessary):
>
> RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
> RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
> RusGN (Russian NT)
> RusWOL (Russian NT)
> RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
>
> UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
> UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
>
> CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
>
> The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
> full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
> rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
>
> Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
> subscribers.
>
> --Chris
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 05:20:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:20:32 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <008201c19e43$a0ec6950$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
Message-ID: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
> -----Original Message-----
> speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> texts for my eggdrop.
No, but you can use the LXX with the Basic Latin transliteration filter
turned on to achieve the same effect. I'll have this working with
Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 06:33:41 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:33:41 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Commandline Bible Reader?
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000101c19e57$bd092100$0200000a@DIASPORA>
> Is there currently a project to produce a command-line only
> bible reader
> based on the sword libraries? If there is, can some one point
> me to the
> source so I can have a look?
Welcome to the project Patrick. We have a couple of command-line tools
to try.
The diatheke homepage is at http://www.crosswire.org/sword/diatheke but
the version in CVS is much more up to date. We use it for Eggdrop, CGI,
SOAP, etc. interfaces.
There's also irenaeus at http://sourceforge.net/projects/irenaeus/,
which is primarily an ncurses frontend but has a command line interface
too I believe. Unfortunately it hasn't been maintained in about a year.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 07:22:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:22:05 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <000601c19e37$e0b2ab00$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <000d01c19e5e$803ed380$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
What is "A Conservative Version?" Do you have any info on it?
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:46 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
>
>
> Four new modules have been released publicly:
>
> ACV (A Conservative Version)
> ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
> ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
> ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
>
> Plus an updated version of:
>
> RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
>
>
>
> Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
> been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
> of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
> necessary):
>
> RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
> RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
> RusGN (Russian NT)
> RusWOL (Russian NT)
> RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
>
> UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
> UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
>
> CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
>
> The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
> full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
> rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
>
> Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
> subscribers.
>
> --Chris
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 08:15:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Barry Drake)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:15:16 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] [possibly OT, certainly META] fireside
In-Reply-To: <20020116001100.5333D325220@mail.old-firestation.net>
References: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <3C453694.14306.14541A@localhost>
Hi everybody .....
On 16 Jan 2002 at 8:10, Leon Brooks wrote:
> IMHO there would be a lot more value in the fireside discussions if they
> were also accessible as a mailing list
Please can this happen? The last two off-topic threads were ones I'd have
loved to join in, but I quite agree with the policy - this list ought to be
confined to developmental issues. And personally I find newsgroups too
cumbersome to use for lively discussion.
God bless,
Barry
>From Barry Drake (The Revd - minister of the Arnold and the Netherfield
United
Reformed Churches, Nottingham - see http://www.arnold-urc.supanet.com for
our
church homepages).
Replies - b.drake@ntlworld.com
Fax: 0705 069 8746
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 15:08:25 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:08:25 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <000d01c19e5e$803ed380$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c19e9f$a57b6280$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
Nevermind, I will answer my own question. :)
The info states:
A Conservative Version (ACV) was translated by Dr. Walter L. Porter. The ACV
is in the public domain. The translation can be accessed online at
http://www.stillvoices.org. This copy of the ACV text came from there.
If you want a copy of the ACV, contact Joshua Holman at hoshie@hotpop.com.
You have to poke around the guys web site for a while, but if you do you
will find the article
http://www.stillvoices.org/Essays/Search4Word.asp
It looks like his ACV is his corrections to the ASV based upon his use of
bibleWorks and the built in lexicons in that program.
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:22 AM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: RE: [sword-devel] New modules
>
>
>
> What is "A Conservative Version?" Do you have any info on it?
>
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:46 PM
> > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
> >
> >
> > Four new modules have been released publicly:
> >
> > ACV (A Conservative Version)
> > ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
> > ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
> > ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
> >
> > Plus an updated version of:
> >
> > RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
> >
> >
> >
> > Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
> > been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
> > of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
> > necessary):
> >
> > RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
> > RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
> > RusGN (Russian NT)
> > RusWOL (Russian NT)
> > RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
> >
> > UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
> > UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
> >
> > CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
> >
> > The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
> > full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
> > rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
> >
> > Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
> > subscribers.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 17:42:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Franklin Bratcher)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:42:36 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
References: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <002401c19eb5$2fbb2e70$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Little"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] New modules
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> > greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> > texts for my eggdrop.
>
> No, but you can use the LXX with the Basic Latin transliteration filter
> turned on to achieve the same effect. I'll have this working with
> Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
>
> --Chris
Are you sure? I tried that on the command line on a greek text and it still
came out a bunch of unicode.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 19:03:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:03:32 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <002401c19eb5$2fbb2e70$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
Message-ID: <000f01c19ec0$7dc6e220$0f01a8c0@didymus>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old
> romanized greek
> > > text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> texts for my
> > > eggdrop.
> >
> > No, but you can use the LXX with the Basic Latin transliteration
> > filter turned on to achieve the same effect. I'll have
> this working
> > with Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
>
> Are you sure? I tried that on the command line on a greek
> text and it still came out a bunch of unicode.
I'm mostly sure. :) You will need to compile Sword with ICU support
(and install icu-sword from CVS). I'm not certain that everything is
working right now, but I think it is. In any case, I'll get it working
before 1.5.3 ships.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 21:53:12 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:53:12 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
References: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <200201162153.g0GLrC002065@jerrykreps.athome>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 23:20, you wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> > greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> > texts for my eggdrop.
>
> No, but you can use the LXX with the
"Basic Latin transliteration filter turned on " <--- What's this? I
don't find a menu option for 'filters' ???
JLK
>to achieve the same effect. I'll have this
> working with Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
>
> --Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 17 01:21:46 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joshua Holman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:21:46 -1000
Subject: [sword-devel] B.W. Johnson's People's New Testament: Philemon missing!
Message-ID: <004901c19ef5$56c82d20$714a4140@computer>
Dear friends,
Who in the SWORD project can I send B.W. Johnson's Commentary on Philemon
to? It's part of the People's New Testament, and it's not in the current
build of the module.
Joshua Holman
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 17 01:50:45 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:50:45 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <200201162153.g0GLrC002065@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA> <200201162153.g0GLrC002065@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <200201170150.g0H1oj003264@jerrykreps.athome>
Duh!
Never mind..
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 15:53, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 January 2002 23:20, you wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> > > greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> > > texts for my eggdrop.
> >
> > No, but you can use the LXX with the
>
> "Basic Latin transliteration filter turned on " <--- What's this?
> I don't find a menu option for 'filters' ???
> JLK
>
> >to achieve the same effect. I'll have this
> > working with Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
> >
> > --Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 02:10:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Wilson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:10:06 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To: <200201170150.g0H1oj003264@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID:
I posted a bug report on the SourceForge, but wasn't sure if it would be
sent out or not. I decided to send a note myself. In addition, I have found
two more modules that trap on installation and crash the Install Manager.
The suspect modules are:
[Gill] John Gill's Expositor (locked)
[CathEn] The Catholic Encyclopedia (unlocked)
[ISBE] International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (unlocked)
The Install Manager crashes immediately after selecting Install. The remote
site that I have been installing from is ftp.sword.cx, Repository Directory,
/pub/sword/betaraw
My system is a 450 Mhz running MS Win Me. I get the following message on the
BSOD:
Filename: VWIN32 (05) + 000012D0 ERROR : 0E : 0028 : C02A44A8
Steve Wilson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 02:58:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:58:19 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000401c19fcb$fc2846c0$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Grab the latest InstallMgr beta from
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/Ins
tallMgr.exe . This should fix the CathEn and ISBE errors. I'm not
aware of the Gill module having ever caused a problem, so let us know if
that one still isn't working. And if I'm wrong in assuming you aren't
using the latest beta, let us know that too, of course. :) But the
crashes caused by downloading RawLD4 modules (like CathEn and ISBE) was
the main reason for updating InstallMgr.
--Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Steve Wilson
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:10 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
>
>
>
> I posted a bug report on the SourceForge, but wasn't sure if
> it would be sent out or not. I decided to send a note myself.
> In addition, I have found two more modules that trap on
> installation and crash the Install Manager. The suspect modules are:
>
> [Gill] John Gill's Expositor (locked)
> [CathEn] The Catholic Encyclopedia (unlocked)
> [ISBE] International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (unlocked)
>
> The Install Manager crashes immediately after selecting
> Install. The remote site that I have been installing from is
ftp.sword.cx, Repository Directory, /pub/sword/betaraw
My system is a 450 Mhz running MS Win Me. I get the following message on
the
BSOD:
Filename: VWIN32 (05) + 000012D0 ERROR : 0E : 0028 : C02A44A8
Steve Wilson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 03:05:29 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:05:29 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] B.W. Johnson's People's New Testament: Philemon missing!
In-Reply-To: <004901c19ef5$56c82d20$714a4140@computer>
Message-ID: <000501c19fcc$fc4a0a20$0200000a@DIASPORA>
I'll fix this in early February, as soon as I get back from the OSIS
meeting in Dallas. I've got the data here, I just need to reformat the
Philemon section, add it to the rest, and reprocess the source doc.
--Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Holman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:22 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] B.W. Johnson's People's New Testament:
> Philemon missing!
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Who in the SWORD project can I send B.W. Johnson's Commentary
> on Philemon to? It's part of the People's New Testament, and
> it's not in the current build of the module.
>
> Joshua Holman
>
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 03:28:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Wilson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:28:05 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To: <000401c19fcb$fc2846c0$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID:
Chris, Thanks for the info.
I think I have found the problem with the Gill module. The gill[1].conf has
the following:
[Gill]
DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/gill/
ModDrv=RawCom
SourceType=GBF
CipherKey=
Lang=en
Version=1.1
History_1.1=enciphered module
Description=John Gill's Expositor
There is no 'rawcom' directory that I see. There is a 'raw' directory. This
may very well be the problem, of course I guessing here.
Steve Wilson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
[mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:58 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
Grab the latest InstallMgr beta from
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/Ins
tallMgr.exe . This should fix the CathEn and ISBE errors. I'm not
aware of the Gill module having ever caused a problem, so let us know if
that one still isn't working. And if I'm wrong in assuming you aren't
using the latest beta, let us know that too, of course. :) But the
crashes caused by downloading RawLD4 modules (like CathEn and ISBE) was
the main reason for updating InstallMgr.
--Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Steve Wilson
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:10 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
>
>
>
> I posted a bug report on the SourceForge, but wasn't sure if
> it would be sent out or not. I decided to send a note myself.
> In addition, I have found two more modules that trap on
> installation and crash the Install Manager. The suspect modules are:
>
> [Gill] John Gill's Expositor (locked)
> [CathEn] The Catholic Encyclopedia (unlocked)
> [ISBE] International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (unlocked)
>
> The Install Manager crashes immediately after selecting
> Install. The remote site that I have been installing from is
ftp.sword.cx, Repository Directory, /pub/sword/betaraw
My system is a 450 Mhz running MS Win Me. I get the following message on
the
BSOD:
Filename: VWIN32 (05) + 000012D0 ERROR : 0E : 0028 : C02A44A8
Steve Wilson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 04:04:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:04:05 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000601c19fd5$2bd64e40$0200000a@DIASPORA>
> There is no 'rawcom' directory that I see. There is a 'raw'
> directory. This may very well be the problem, of course I
> guessing here.
Yep, you were right. There was just the raw directory with the Gill
files inside. I moved them into rawcom/gill, where the should have
been. Thanks for pointing that out.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 12:44:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (W. Simpson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:44:18 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
References: <000601c19fd5$2bd64e40$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <004401c1a01d$d9e8e860$c2c568d5@tinypc>
Hi,
This may not be the right place to post this as, strictly speaking, this
e-mail isn't about The Sword. However, I think this is in keeping with the
'ethos' of the Sword Project, so bear with me :-)
I should like RISC OS users to be able to make use of the Bible texts freely
available for download at
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles. It is by
far the largest selection of translations in one place that I have seen
anywhere!
One suggestion I have heard from a Sword developer is to port The Sword to
RISC OS. I'm unable to do that (perhaps there are other RISC OS programmers
who might be able to, but are all too busy) .
I do have a RISC OS conversion tool which can put the verse numbers back
into the text (making it readable again), so it can be read in a text editor
or using a RISC OS Bible program, but some of the modules appear to deviate
from the architecture of, say, the KJV module. The RSV is one that comes to
mind - it isn't "locked", but it appears encrypted, and its contents appear
in the ZTEXT folder as opposed to the RAWTEXT folder. I presume it is
compressed.
It's modules like this one that cause problems. Could someone enlighten me
on how to decompress them (simpson.general@ntlworld.com), or is it vastly
difficult?
I suppose, in the end, you could say "tough, just use the Sword", and that's
fair enough, but I'm just asking the question all the same ;-) - I don't
want to distract anyone, but if someone has a few ideas they think might
help, I'd be interested to hear them.
Many Thanks,
W.Simpson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 14:53:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:53:48 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
Message-ID: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
According to this bug on sourceforge
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&group_i
d=9516&atid=109516
gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would be best to
rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr, rawstr4.
It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not convinced
this is the most intuitive name it could be.
getText is another option though that would be very prone to typos.
Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
Maybe readtext describes what it does better, reading the text into a
provided buffer rather than returning it?
(fwiw I'd go for readtext)
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 15:49:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:49:05 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
In-Reply-To: <004401c1a01d$d9e8e860$c2c568d5@tinypc>
Message-ID: <001301c1a037$a8f3a5f0$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Hi,
I think you answered yourself, actually. The best answer is "tough,
just use Sword". And that shouldn't be too difficult, if RISC OS has
GNU tools (like gmake and gcc). About all you should need to do is
modify the Makefile.cfg file to set GNUBIGENDIAN as the target machine
(I think that's an option, but maybe only in the CVS version) and issue
a make.
Failing that, you will have to use code from Sword, which is probably
more difficult. Specifically, you need the ZText class and everything
it inherits and imports.
Maybe someone else has a better answer, if there's another way, but I'm
doubtful. :) It's not even a good idea to assume the RawText modules
are ordered, because some of them may not be.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 16:21:31 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:21:31 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
In-Reply-To: <004401c1a01d$d9e8e860$c2c568d5@tinypc>
Message-ID: <3C484B8B.5034.5AF8E40@localhost>
I don't know how good it is but the RISCOS gcc is here
http://hard-mofo.dsvr.net/gcc/. It and zlib (www.zlib.org) are all you will need to compile
sword
I'm cc'ing a friend that I think still has a RISCOS machine to see if he has used it at all
or can help or has any other ideas. Steve?
If it would help and I get time I might try out the gccsdk that looks as though it would
work for cross-compiling on linux.
It would be great to get sword working on another OS :) (ok, so it would still need
someone to write a RISCOS frontend but it would be a good start).
Regards,
Daniel
On 18 Jan 2002 at 12:44, W. Simpson sent forth the message:
> Hi,
>
> This may not be the right place to post this as, strictly speaking, this
> e-mail isn't about The Sword. However, I think this is in keeping with the
> 'ethos' of the Sword Project, so bear with me :-)
>
> I should like RISC OS users to be able to make use of the Bible texts freely
> available for download at
> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles. It is by
> far the largest selection of translations in one place that I have seen
> anywhere!
>
> One suggestion I have heard from a Sword developer is to port The Sword to
> RISC OS. I'm unable to do that (perhaps there are other RISC OS programmers
> who might be able to, but are all too busy) .
>
> I do have a RISC OS conversion tool which can put the verse numbers back
> into the text (making it readable again), so it can be read in a text editor
> or using a RISC OS Bible program, but some of the modules appear to deviate
> from the architecture of, say, the KJV module. The RSV is one that comes to
> mind - it isn't "locked", but it appears encrypted, and its contents appear
> in the ZTEXT folder as opposed to the RAWTEXT folder. I presume it is
> compressed.
>
> It's modules like this one that cause problems. Could someone enlighten me
> on how to decompress them (simpson.general@ntlworld.com), or is it vastly
> difficult?
>
> I suppose, in the end, you could say "tough, just use the Sword", and that's
> fair enough, but I'm just asking the question all the same ;-) - I don't
> want to distract anyone, but if someone has a few ideas they think might
> help, I'd be interested to hear them.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> W.Simpson
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 22:15:08 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Aivo_Pr=FCkk?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:15:08 -0200 (GMT+2)
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
Message-ID:
18.1.2002 Daniel Glassey wrote:
>>According to this bug on sourceforge
>>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&group_i
>>d=9516&atid=109516
>>
>>gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
>>src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would be best to
>>rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr, rawstr4.
>>
>>It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not convinced
>>this is the most intuitive name it could be.
Thank You!
I renamed gettext to swgettext, and build was successful.
But what problem is, when I can't see any texts with frontend
programs(BibleTime,GnimeSword)? Only in bible modules are verse numbers
shown, and book information too as tooltips. So modules are loaded, but no
body text.
aivo.
*********************************
Aivo Prükk
URL: http://aivo.bik.ee
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 22:44:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:44:24 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201182244.g0IMiOT01762@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 18 January 2002 08:53, you wrote:
> According to this bug on sourceforge
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&gro
>up_i d=9516&atid=109516
>
> gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
> src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would
> be best to rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr,
> rawstr4.
Why design to a specific distro, or against one?
>
> It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not
> convinced this is the most intuitive name it could be.
>
> getText is another option though that would be very prone to typos.
> Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
These approaches can lead to confusion...
Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
Also, I notice that in 11 source files and 6 headers 'extern "C" '
wraps are being used so g++ won't mangle the C code being wrapped.
Why not rewrite the C code so it is C++ compliant?
JLK
> Maybe readtext describes what it does better, reading the text into
> a provided buffer rather than returning it?
>
> (fwiw I'd go for readtext)
>
> Daniel
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 19 14:50:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (W. Simpson)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:50:18 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
References:
Message-ID: <001a01c1a0f8$9e6f1c60$aac668d5@tinypc>
In reply to Chris Little:
Hi,
>> Like I said, I can't port anything. Whether or not I can solicit someone
to
>> do the work is another matter. One particular objection I see is that
>> RISC OS prides itself on its own distinctive style, expecting very
different
>> desktop behaviour from its programs than that of something built for
>> windows. I can't see Sword working acceptably in a RISC OS environment,
>> (though I know very little about porting anything to anywhere).
>Sword itself is just a library. Once you have that compiled, you could
>just call it and write whatever exporter or viewer you like.
I see.
>> Hmmm, I was hoping there might be some relatively simple decompression
>> algorithm I could apply to each file.
>They are compressed in a simple decompression algorithm, namely zip. But
>it isn't simply zipped as a whole, we compress blocks (chapters or books)
>and place them in a file, then index the location in a second file.
Which would account for why the RSV appears encrypted having been
extracted from its ZIP file, and contains more files than the KJV module.
RSV:
nt.bzs
nt.bzc
nt
ot.bzs
ot.bzv
ot
rsv.sgm
Yes, I see what you mean. It isn't a perfectly straightforward decompression
of each file. All the same, if anyone is willing to attach the relevant
pieces of source code to an e-mail for me (or someone else) to examine now
or in the future, with any other useful remarks, I would be grateful.
Thank you all once again :-)
Shalom,
W.Simpson
www.logosword.co.uk
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 19 21:50:26 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Todd Pedlar)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:50:26 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
Message-ID: <004b01c1a133$4e73a3d0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
The Geneva notes seem to be badly formatted. Does
anyone know what might cause this? By 'badly formatted'
I mean that it seems that there are hard-coded spaces
in words where no space should be placed :) also, there
are obvious hard coded double spaces between words as
if there is an intended hard return.
I'd like to help on fixing this, but don't know if anyone
is already working on it, or if anyone's seen the issue.
Todd
PS - also, does anyone have Gill's expositor working? Mine
won't install - or rather, it installs, but even though my CONF
files correctly point to ./rawcom/, I don't get a Gill tab.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 11:36:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Stephen Denne)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:36:15 +1300
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
In-Reply-To: <004b01c1a133$4e73a3d0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
Message-ID:
> The Geneva notes seem to be badly formatted.
I hadn't seen these problems, and can't find any with a quick look - do you
have some references?
I don't like the appearance of the footnote letters as normal letters - this
isn't what you are referring to is it?
I'm not sure how much effort it is worth spending tidying up this module
until after we move to a html renderer. (Are we going to do such a thing?
Does anyone know when? Are there things that can be done to this module that
will be of benefit both now, and when we use an html renderer?)
> PS - also, does anyone have Gill's expositor working? Mine
> won't install - or rather, it installs, but even though my CONF
> files correctly point to ./rawcom/, I don't get a Gill tab.
Mine is showing up - it was a while ago that I downloaded it, but the
DataPath in my .conf file is:
DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/gill/
The current windows program doesn't show enciphered modules that do not have
the CipherKey entered (It does list it in the "Hide/Show modules" window
though.)
Stephen.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 12:36:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:36:13 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Problem with SAOA module
Message-ID: <200201201439.HAA04580@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
I have a problem with the SAOA module (BTW, nice and interesting module).
The first entry shown in the entry list of BibleTime is "ASS". But if I open
the module for the first time BibleTime displays the module heading entry
(normally blank entry).
This heading entry is the entry "ANT", which does not occur in the list so I
think somethings wrong with the index file of the SAOA module.
BTW, the text of the SAOA module mentiones images of the animals at some
places. Are these images available? Will the work with Sword in the future?
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 18:13:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Todd Pedlar)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:13:16 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
References:
Message-ID: <002901c1a1de$2259b2c0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Denne
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
> > The Geneva notes seem to be badly formatted.
>
> I hadn't seen these problems, and can't find any with a quick look - do
you
> have some references?
>
> I don't like the appearance of the footnote letters as normal letters -
this
> isn't what you are referring to is it?
>
> I'm not sure how much effort it is worth spending tidying up this module
> until after we move to a html renderer.
Maybe so. There is the problem with the footnotes - they're
pretty awful as single letters set apart only by spaces.
The other thing, though, is I do find that it seems to have
hardcoded returns in the text... such that if you open up
the commentary window wider, sometimes you get the
paragraphs to line up reasonably so that there are none
of what appear to be double and triple spaces between
words.
> (Are we going to do such a thing?
> Does anyone know when? Are there things that can be done to this module
that
> will be of benefit both now, and when we use an html renderer?)
> > PS - also, does anyone have Gill's expositor working? Mine
> > won't install - or rather, it installs, but even though my CONF
> > files correctly point to ./rawcom/, I don't get a Gill tab.
>
> Mine is showing up - it was a while ago that I downloaded it, but the
> DataPath in my .conf file is:
> DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/gill/
>
> The current windows program doesn't show enciphered modules that do not
have
> the CipherKey entered (It does list it in the "Hide/Show modules" window
> though.)
Man! I'm sure that's what it is. I never entered the unlock.
Now if only I can find that file with the keys in it. :(
Todd
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 23:03:40 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:03:40 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
Message-ID:
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This is just a brief message to announce the launch of the ChristianSource
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Free Software enthusiasts. If you would like to learn more about CS-FSLUG,
please take a look at http://cs.uninetsolutions.com .
Thanks,
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:34:53 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Flemming Vilster)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:34:53 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <005701c1a213$74208090$0df0fea9@asus>
downloading and installing locked modules:
> On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> previously).
>
> The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
>
I have now been able to download and installing locked modules from the ftp site, and they appear
on the program, but the text is unreadable. How do I get access to the 'supersecret'
file to get hold on the unlock code??
Flemming
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:43:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:43:06 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <005701c1a213$74208090$0df0fea9@asus>
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184026.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Hi, Flemming.
I'm new enough at this that I'm not sure who can authorize what, so I'll
simply tell you what I did to get the file. I sent a note to the owner of
the distribution list and asked how to get it. I was sent back a reply
with the URL to the file.
Good luck with your testing.
Blessings on you as you seek to serve our LORD.
At 01:34 AM 1/21/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>downloading and installing locked modules:
>
> > On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
>
>Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> > the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> > to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> > translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> > I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> > previously).
> >
> > The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> > already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> > opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> > entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
> >
>I have now been able to download and installing locked modules from the
>ftp site, and they appear
>on the program, but the text is unreadable. How do I get access to the
>'supersecret'
>file to get hold on the unlock code??
>
>Flemming
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:49:09 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Blake)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:49:09 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
References: <002901c1a1de$2259b2c0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c1a215$70871b40$0e00a8c0@tcdr.net>
> Now if only I can find that file with the keys in it. :(
I have the same problem.
I needed to reinstall my computer and have misplaced the file with the keys
in it and I haven't been able to find it on the website anymore. Can anyone
please send me this file or let me know where to get it?
Thanks
Daniel Blake
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:53:59 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:53:59 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Tim,
I have gone to the site and read the Statement of Faith. As an
evangelical, conservative Christian (and ordained Southern Baptist
minister) I have absolutely no problems with it.
I do have a question, however. I have not taken the plunge and tried out
Linux, though I have thought very seriously about it; my "tentmaking" job
is that of IT Director for the Voice of the Martyrs. When you talk about
"Free Software," are you referring to software that only runs on Linux or
are you referring to software that runs on Windows?
At 05:03 PM 1/20/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
> This is just a brief message to announce the launch of the ChristianSource
>Free Software and Linux Users Group, a mailing list for Christian Linux and
>Free Software enthusiasts. If you would like to learn more about CS-FSLUG,
>please take a look at http://cs.uninetsolutions.com .
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 01:18:39 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:18:39 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:
Hello Lloyd,
> I do have a question, however. I have not taken the plunge and tried out
> Linux, though I have thought very seriously about it; my "tentmaking" job
> is that of IT Director for the Voice of the Martyrs. When you talk about
> "Free Software," are you referring to software that only runs on Linux or
> are you referring to software that runs on Windows?
Free Software ("open source") is a reference to
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html which includes Windows software
such as The Sword Project for Windows, however our main focus is on Linux. As
long as you are interested in Linux anyway though (even though you haven't
"taken the plunge"), and going by your membership on Sword-devel, free
software in Windows too, you probably would enjoy the list.
We'd be glad to have you. :-)
-Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 08:02:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Markus Peuhkuri)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:02:06 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [sword-devel] locales.d/fi.conf with some questions
Message-ID: <200201210802.g0L826T22434@keskus.tct.hut.fi>
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Here is attached locale for Finnish; but I have some questions.
The book names are according 1992 version of Finnish Bible and there
are some differences to 1933,1938 version of "Pyhä Raamattu" (yes,
there is some 8bit>7bit conversion error at list: in 7bit HTML it
should read "Pyhä Raamattu"; the Old Testament was taken in use
in 1933, the New Testament 1938). For example:
- Song of Solomon is "Laulujen Laulu" in 1992 version and "Korkea
Veisu" (Kork.v) in 1933 version.
- There is no prefix "Paavalin" (Paulus') in letters to
Romans--Philemon in 1992 version.
There may be other differences also which I do not remember anymore.
How these differences should be marked in locales?
Another question is about converting Bible (the 1992 version). The
1992 version is formated as running text i.e. it has multi-verse
paragraphs (with breaks possibly in middle of verse), poems (and
songs) do have line structure and there are informative headings
(again possibly in middle of verse). How these should be handled in
conversion?
The 1992 version has some copyright issues, but I think they are not a
big problem as in 1994 we got right to publish text in HTML format for
personal study, this is mainly an extension. And in worst case, we
can just provide conversion script and one downloads the HTML version
by oneself and runs the converter.
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[Meta]
Name=fi
Description=Finnish
[Text]
Genesis=Ensimmäinen Mooseksen kirja
Exodus=Toinen Mooseksen kirja
Leviticus=Kolmas Mooseksen kirja
Numbers=Neljäs Mooseksen kirja
Deuteronomy=Viides Mooseksen kirja
Joshua=Joosuan kirja
Judges=Tuomarien kirja
Ruth=Ruutin kirja
I Samuel=Ensimmäinen Samuelin kirja
II Samuel=Toinen Samuelin kirja
I Kings=Ensimmäinen kuninkaiden kirja
II Kings=Toinen kuninkaiden kirja
I Chronicles=Ensimmäinen aikakirja
II Chronicles=Toinen aikakirja
Ezra=Esran kirja
Nehemiah=Nehemian kirja
Esther=Esterin kirja
Job=Jobin kirja
Psalms=Psalmien kirja
Proverbs=Sananlaskujen kirja
Ecclesiastes=Saarnaajan kirja
Song of Solomon=Laulujen kirja
Isaiah=Jesajan kirja
Jeremiah=Jeremian kirja
Lamentations=Valitusvirret
Ezekiel=Hesekielin kirja
Daniel=Danielin kirja
Hosea=Hoosean kirja
Joel=Joelin kirja
Amos=Aamoksen kirja
Obadiah=Obadjan kirja
Jonah=Joonan kirja
Micah=Miikan kirja
Nahum=Nahumin kirja
Habakkuk=Habakukin kirja
Zephaniah=Sefanjan kirja
Haggai=Haggain kirja
Zechariah=Sakarjan kirja
Malachi=Malakian kirja
Matthew=Evankeliumi Matteuksen mukaan
Mark=Evankeliumi Markuksen mukaan
Luke=Evankeliumi Luukkaan mukaan
John=Evankeliumi Johanneksen mukaan
Acts=Apostolien teot
Romans=Kirje roomalaisille
I Corinthians=Ensimminen kirje korinttilaisille
II Corinthians=Toinen kirje korinttilaisille
Galatians=Kirje galatalaisille
Ephesians=Kirje efesolaisille
Philippians=Kirje filippiläisille
Colossians=Kirje kolossalaisille
I Thessalonians=Ensimmäinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
II Thessalonians=Toinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
I Timothy=Ensimmäinen kirje Timoteukselle
II Timothy=Toinen kirje Timoteukselle
Titus=Kirje Titukselle
Philemon=Kirje Filemonille
Hebrews=Kirje heprealaisille
James=Jaakobin kirje
I Peter=Ensimmäinen Pietarin kirje
II Peter=Toinen Pietarin kirje
I John=Ensimmäinen Johanneksen kirje
II John=Toinen Johanneksen kirje
III John=Kolmas Johanneksen kirje
Jude=Juudaksen kirje
Revelation of John=Johanneksen ilmestys
[Book Abbrevs]
1 C=46
1 CHRONICLES=13
1 CORINTHIANS=46
1 JN=62
1 JOHN=62
1 KGS=11
1 KINGS=11
1 PETER=60
1 PTR=60
1 SAMUEL=9
1 THESSALONIANS=52
1 TIMOTHY=54
1C=46
1CHRONICLES=13
1CORINTHIANS=46
1JN=62
1JOHN=62
1KGS=11
1KINGS=11
1PETER=60
1PTR=60
1SAMUEL=9
1THESSALONIANS=52
1TIMOTHY=54
2 C=47
2 CHRONICLES=14
2 CORINTHIANS=47
2 JN=63
2 JOHN=63
2 KGS=12
2 KINGS=12
2 PETER=61
2 PTR=61
2 SAMUEL=10
2 THESSALONIANS=53
2 TIMOTHY=55
2C=47
2CHRONICLES=14
2CORINTHIANS=47
2JN=63
2JOHN=63
2KGS=12
2KINGS=12
2PETER=61
2PTR=61
2SAMUEL=10
2THESSALONIANS=53
2TIMOTHY=55
3 JN=64
3 JOHN=64
3JN=64
3JOHN=64
ACTS=44
AMOS=30
APOCALYPSE OF ST. JOHN=66
C=51
CANTICLE OF CANTICLES=22
COC=22
COLOSSIANS=51
D=5
DANIEL=27
DEUTERONOMY=5
E=49
ECCLESIASTES=21
EPHESIANS=49
ESTER=17
ESTHER=17
EXODUS=2
EZEKIEL=26
EZRA=15
G=1
GALATIANS=48
GENESIS=1
H=58
HABAKKUK=35
HAGGAI=37
HEBREWS=58
HOSEA=28
I C=46
I CHRONICLES=13
I CORINTHIANS=46
I JN=62
I JOHN=62
I KGS=11
I KINGS=11
I PETER=60
I PTR=60
I SAMUEL=9
I THESSALONIANS=52
I TIMOTHY=54
IC=46
ICHRONICLES=13
ICORINTHIANS=46
II C=47
II CHRONICLES=14
II CORINTHIANS=47
II JN=63
II JOHN=63
II KGS=12
II KINGS=12
II PETER=61
II PTR=61
II SAMUEL=10
II THESSALONIANS=53
II TIMOTHY=55
IIC=47
IICHRONICLES=14
IICORINTHIANS=47
III JN=64
III JOHN=64
IIIJN=64
IIIJOHN=64
IIJN=63
IIJOHN=63
IIKGS=12
IIKINGS=12
IIPETER=61
IIPTR=61
IISAMUEL=10
IITHESSALONIANS=53
IITIMOTHY=55
IJN=62
IJOHN=62
IKGS=11
IKINGS=11
IPETER=60
IPTR=60
ISA=23
ISAIAH=23
ISAMUEL=9
ITHESSALONIANS=52
ITIMOTHY=54
J=43
JAMES=59
JAS=59
JEREMIAH=24
JN=43
JO=43
JOB=18
JOEL=29
JOHN=43
JONAH=32
JOSHUA=6
JUD=7
JUDE=65
JUDGES=7
L=42
LAMENTATIONS=25
LEVITICUS=3
LK=42
LUKE=42
MA=40
MALACHI=39
MARK=41
MATTHEW=40
MICAH=33
MK=41
MR=41
MT=40
N=4
NAHUM=34
NEHEMIAH=16
NUMBERS=4
OBADIAH=31
P=19
PH=50
PHILEMON=57
PHILIPPIANS=50
PHM=57
PHP=50
PROVERBS=20
PSALMS=19
PSM=19
PSS=19
REVELATION OF JOHN=66
ROMANS=45
RUTH=8
SONG OF SOLOMON=22
SONG OF SONGS=22
SOS=22
TITUS=56
ZECHARIAH=38
ZEPHANIAH=36
1. MOOS=1
2. MOOS=2
3. MOOS=3
4. MOOS=4
5. MOOS=5
JOOS=6
TUOM=7
RUUT=8
1. SAM=9
2. SAM=10
1. KUN=11
2. KUN=12
1. AIK=13
2. AIK=14
ESRA=15
NEH=16
EST=17
JOB=18
PS=19
SANANL=20
SAARN=21
LAULL=22
JES=23
JER=24
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DAN=27
HOOS=28
JOEL=29
AAM=30
OB=31
JOONA=32
MIIKA=33
NAH=34
HAB=35
SEF=36
HAGG=37
SAK=38
MAL=39
MATT=40
MARK=41
LUUK=42
JOH=43
APT=44
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2. KOR=47
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EF=49
FIL=50
KOL=51
1. TESS=52
2. TESS=53
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2. TIM=55
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FILEM=57
HEPR=58
JAAK=59
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2. PIET=61
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2. JOH=63
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 12:03:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Tero Favorin)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:03:38 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] locales.d/fi.conf with some questions
References: <200201210802.g0L826T22434@keskus.tct.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <3C4C039A.5020409@favorin.com>
I've made a simple Finnish 1992 bible module. I simply split the
multi-verses to single verses and indicated with special tag the
different verse numbering since SWORD cannot handle these yet and I
didn't bother to do anything with poetic lines and headings, although
I've seen headings atleast in the ISV module. The module may be read at
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net, but since I only asked for permission
to publish it at one site I couldn't publish the actual module.
I've got a Java program which converts the original files to SWORD module.
Contact me for more info.
--
Tero Favorin
Email: tero@favorin.com
Markus Peuhkuri wrote:
>Here is attached locale for Finnish; but I have some questions.
>
>The book names are according 1992 version of Finnish Bible and there
>are some differences to 1933,1938 version of "Pyhä Raamattu" (yes,
>there is some 8bit>7bit conversion error at list: in 7bit HTML it
>should read "Pyhä Raamattu"; the Old Testament was taken in use
>in 1933, the New Testament 1938). For example:
>
>- Song of Solomon is "Laulujen Laulu" in 1992 version and "Korkea
> Veisu" (Kork.v) in 1933 version.
>
>- There is no prefix "Paavalin" (Paulus') in letters to
> Romans--Philemon in 1992 version.
>
>There may be other differences also which I do not remember anymore.
>How these differences should be marked in locales?
>
>Another question is about converting Bible (the 1992 version). The
>1992 version is formated as running text i.e. it has multi-verse
>paragraphs (with breaks possibly in middle of verse), poems (and
>songs) do have line structure and there are informative headings
>(again possibly in middle of verse). How these should be handled in
>conversion?
>
>The 1992 version has some copyright issues, but I think they are not a
>big problem as in 1994 we got right to publish text in HTML format for
>personal study, this is mainly an extension. And in worst case, we
>can just provide conversion script and one downloads the HTML version
>by oneself and runs the converter.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[Meta]
>Name=fi
>Description=Finnish
>
>[Text]
>Genesis=Ensimmäinen Mooseksen kirja
>Exodus=Toinen Mooseksen kirja
>Leviticus=Kolmas Mooseksen kirja
>Numbers=Neljäs Mooseksen kirja
>Deuteronomy=Viides Mooseksen kirja
>Joshua=Joosuan kirja
>Judges=Tuomarien kirja
>Ruth=Ruutin kirja
>I Samuel=Ensimmäinen Samuelin kirja
>II Samuel=Toinen Samuelin kirja
>I Kings=Ensimmäinen kuninkaiden kirja
>II Kings=Toinen kuninkaiden kirja
>I Chronicles=Ensimmäinen aikakirja
>II Chronicles=Toinen aikakirja
>Ezra=Esran kirja
>Nehemiah=Nehemian kirja
>Esther=Esterin kirja
>Job=Jobin kirja
>Psalms=Psalmien kirja
>Proverbs=Sananlaskujen kirja
>Ecclesiastes=Saarnaajan kirja
>Song of Solomon=Laulujen kirja
>Isaiah=Jesajan kirja
>Jeremiah=Jeremian kirja
>Lamentations=Valitusvirret
>Ezekiel=Hesekielin kirja
>Daniel=Danielin kirja
>Hosea=Hoosean kirja
>Joel=Joelin kirja
>Amos=Aamoksen kirja
>Obadiah=Obadjan kirja
>Jonah=Joonan kirja
>Micah=Miikan kirja
>Nahum=Nahumin kirja
>Habakkuk=Habakukin kirja
>Zephaniah=Sefanjan kirja
>Haggai=Haggain kirja
>Zechariah=Sakarjan kirja
>Malachi=Malakian kirja
>Matthew=Evankeliumi Matteuksen mukaan
>Mark=Evankeliumi Markuksen mukaan
>Luke=Evankeliumi Luukkaan mukaan
>John=Evankeliumi Johanneksen mukaan
>Acts=Apostolien teot
>Romans=Kirje roomalaisille
>I Corinthians=Ensimminen kirje korinttilaisille
>II Corinthians=Toinen kirje korinttilaisille
>Galatians=Kirje galatalaisille
>Ephesians=Kirje efesolaisille
>Philippians=Kirje filippiläisille
>Colossians=Kirje kolossalaisille
>I Thessalonians=Ensimmäinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
>II Thessalonians=Toinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
>I Timothy=Ensimmäinen kirje Timoteukselle
>II Timothy=Toinen kirje Timoteukselle
>Titus=Kirje Titukselle
>Philemon=Kirje Filemonille
>Hebrews=Kirje heprealaisille
>James=Jaakobin kirje
>I Peter=Ensimmäinen Pietarin kirje
>II Peter=Toinen Pietarin kirje
>I John=Ensimmäinen Johanneksen kirje
>II John=Toinen Johanneksen kirje
>III John=Kolmas Johanneksen kirje
>Jude=Juudaksen kirje
>Revelation of John=Johanneksen ilmestys
>
>[Book Abbrevs]
>
>1 C=46
>1 CHRONICLES=13
>1 CORINTHIANS=46
>1 JN=62
>1 JOHN=62
>1 KGS=11
>1 KINGS=11
>1 PETER=60
>1 PTR=60
>1 SAMUEL=9
>1 THESSALONIANS=52
>1 TIMOTHY=54
>1C=46
>1CHRONICLES=13
>1CORINTHIANS=46
>1JN=62
>1JOHN=62
>1KGS=11
>1KINGS=11
>1PETER=60
>1PTR=60
>1SAMUEL=9
>1THESSALONIANS=52
>1TIMOTHY=54
>2 C=47
>2 CHRONICLES=14
>2 CORINTHIANS=47
>2 JN=63
>2 JOHN=63
>2 KGS=12
>2 KINGS=12
>2 PETER=61
>2 PTR=61
>2 SAMUEL=10
>2 THESSALONIANS=53
>2 TIMOTHY=55
>2C=47
>2CHRONICLES=14
>2CORINTHIANS=47
>2JN=63
>2JOHN=63
>2KGS=12
>2KINGS=12
>2PETER=61
>2PTR=61
>2SAMUEL=10
>2THESSALONIANS=53
>2TIMOTHY=55
>3 JN=64
>3 JOHN=64
>3JN=64
>3JOHN=64
>ACTS=44
>AMOS=30
>APOCALYPSE OF ST. JOHN=66
>C=51
>CANTICLE OF CANTICLES=22
>COC=22
>COLOSSIANS=51
>D=5
>DANIEL=27
>DEUTERONOMY=5
>E=49
>ECCLESIASTES=21
>EPHESIANS=49
>ESTER=17
>ESTHER=17
>EXODUS=2
>EZEKIEL=26
>EZRA=15
>G=1
>GALATIANS=48
>GENESIS=1
>H=58
>HABAKKUK=35
>HAGGAI=37
>HEBREWS=58
>HOSEA=28
>I C=46
>I CHRONICLES=13
>I CORINTHIANS=46
>I JN=62
>I JOHN=62
>I KGS=11
>I KINGS=11
>I PETER=60
>I PTR=60
>I SAMUEL=9
>I THESSALONIANS=52
>I TIMOTHY=54
>IC=46
>ICHRONICLES=13
>ICORINTHIANS=46
>II C=47
>II CHRONICLES=14
>II CORINTHIANS=47
>II JN=63
>II JOHN=63
>II KGS=12
>II KINGS=12
>II PETER=61
>II PTR=61
>II SAMUEL=10
>II THESSALONIANS=53
>II TIMOTHY=55
>IIC=47
>IICHRONICLES=14
>IICORINTHIANS=47
>III JN=64
>III JOHN=64
>IIIJN=64
>IIIJOHN=64
>IIJN=63
>IIJOHN=63
>IIKGS=12
>IIKINGS=12
>IIPETER=61
>IIPTR=61
>IISAMUEL=10
>IITHESSALONIANS=53
>IITIMOTHY=55
>IJN=62
>IJOHN=62
>IKGS=11
>IKINGS=11
>IPETER=60
>IPTR=60
>ISA=23
>ISAIAH=23
>ISAMUEL=9
>ITHESSALONIANS=52
>ITIMOTHY=54
>J=43
>JAMES=59
>JAS=59
>JEREMIAH=24
>JN=43
>JO=43
>JOB=18
>JOEL=29
>JOHN=43
>JONAH=32
>JOSHUA=6
>JUD=7
>JUDE=65
>JUDGES=7
>L=42
>LAMENTATIONS=25
>LEVITICUS=3
>LK=42
>LUKE=42
>MA=40
>MALACHI=39
>MARK=41
>MATTHEW=40
>MICAH=33
>MK=41
>MR=41
>MT=40
>N=4
>NAHUM=34
>NEHEMIAH=16
>NUMBERS=4
>OBADIAH=31
>P=19
>PH=50
>PHILEMON=57
>PHILIPPIANS=50
>PHM=57
>PHP=50
>PROVERBS=20
>PSALMS=19
>PSM=19
>PSS=19
>REVELATION OF JOHN=66
>ROMANS=45
>RUTH=8
>SONG OF SOLOMON=22
>SONG OF SONGS=22
>SOS=22
>TITUS=56
>ZECHARIAH=38
>ZEPHANIAH=36
>
>
>1. MOOS=1
>2. MOOS=2
>3. MOOS=3
>4. MOOS=4
>5. MOOS=5
>JOOS=6
>TUOM=7
>RUUT=8
>1. SAM=9
>2. SAM=10
>1. KUN=11
>2. KUN=12
>1. AIK=13
>2. AIK=14
>ESRA=15
>NEH=16
>EST=17
>JOB=18
>PS=19
>SANANL=20
>SAARN=21
>LAULL=22
>JES=23
>JER=24
>VALIT=25
>HESL=26
>DAN=27
>HOOS=28
>JOEL=29
>AAM=30
>OB=31
>JOONA=32
>MIIKA=33
>NAH=34
>HAB=35
>SEF=36
>HAGG=37
>SAK=38
>MAL=39
>MATT=40
>MARK=41
>LUUK=42
>JOH=43
>APT=44
>ROOM=45
>1. KOR=46
>2. KOR=47
>GAL=48
>EF=49
>FIL=50
>KOL=51
>1. TESS=52
>2. TESS=53
>1. TIM=54
>2. TIM=55
>TIT=56
>FILEM=57
>HEPR=58
>JAAK=59
>1. PIET=60
>2. PIET=61
>1. JOH=62
>2. JOH=63
>3. JOH=64
>JUUD=65
>ILM=66
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 14:29:57 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:29:57 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <20020121143023.1D45F3251E2@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Monday 21 January 2002 08:53, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
> When you talk about
> "Free Software," are you referring to software that only runs on Linux or
> are you referring to software that runs on Windows?
Straight from the horses' (er, gnus') mouths:
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 18:34:21 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jonathan Hughes)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:34:21 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Message-ID: <02012110342201.02327@laptop>
Hey Everyone,
I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about why we don't have the
NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from www.netbible.org in
html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to format
the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out in the
efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
Jonathan Hughes
jhughes@crosswire.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 19:16:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Darren DeMeulenaere)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:16:37 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Message-ID: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain. I believe
there is a copywrite on it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hughes [mailto:jhughes@crosswire.org]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:34 AM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Hey Everyone,
I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about why we don't
have the
NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from www.netbible.org in
html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to format
the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out in the
efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
Jonathan Hughes
jhughes@crosswire.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 20:53:01 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jonathan Hughes)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:53:01 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
In-Reply-To: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
References: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
Message-ID: <02012112530107.02327@laptop>
Hey Everyone,
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain. I believe
> there is a copywrite on it.
Yeah, I believe it is copyrighted however if they are willing to provide it
for anyone to download for free in HTML format as well as some other useful
formats, then I believe they would be willing to let us distribute it also.
Just wondering about the packaging of the module.
Jonathan
jhughes@crosswire.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 23:05:20 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:05:20 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
In-Reply-To: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
Message-ID: <000001c1a2d0$1bffa2c0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> I believe there is a copywrite on it.
Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
any other text I know of. There are I believe only two software
packages being allowed to license the text (Logos & OliveTree) and
you're not allowed to copy the text from their webpage to post on your
own webpage.
> I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about
> why we don't have the
> NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from
> www.netbible.org in
> html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to
format
> the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out
in the
> efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
So, like I said, the NET is not very (libre) free and is not easily
downloaded from netbible.org. That said, I have the text in a pair of
modules (a Bible for the text & a commentary for the notes) but don't
expect it to be posted publicly soon, if ever.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 21:14:42 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Darren DeMeulenaere)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:14:42 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Message-ID: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF468@SDGSYS2>
Has anyone approached them about our project. I believe I sent an email to
them a couple of years ago, but never heard back. Is there anyone willing
to approach them?
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Little [mailto:chrislit@chiasma.org]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:05 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> I believe there is a copywrite on it.
Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
any other text I know of. There are I believe only two software
packages being allowed to license the text (Logos & OliveTree) and
you're not allowed to copy the text from their webpage to post on your
own webpage.
> I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about
> why we don't have the
> NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from
> www.netbible.org in
> html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to
format
> the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out
in the
> efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
So, like I said, the NET is not very (libre) free and is not easily
downloaded from netbible.org. That said, I have the text in a pair of
modules (a Bible for the text & a commentary for the notes) but don't
expect it to be posted publicly soon, if ever.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 23:25:03 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:25:03 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
In-Reply-To: <000001c1a2d0$1bffa2c0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <001801c1a2d2$da8ba020$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
I met the guy behind the NET Bible several years ago. I was excited about
the project because the main selling point was that it was going to be a
solid translation that was FREELY distributed. I do not know what changed or
why.
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
>
>
>
>
> > I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> > I believe there is a copywrite on it.
>
>
> Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
> distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
> any other text I know of. There are I believe only two software
> packages being allowed to license the text (Logos & OliveTree) and
> you're not allowed to copy the text from their webpage to post on your
> own webpage.
>
> > I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about
> > why we don't have the
> > NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from
> > www.netbible.org in
> > html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to
> format
> > the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out
> in the
> > efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
>
> So, like I said, the NET is not very (libre) free and is not easily
> downloaded from netbible.org. That said, I have the text in a pair of
> modules (a Bible for the text & a commentary for the notes) but don't
> expect it to be posted publicly soon, if ever.
>
> --Chris
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 16:44:26 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Anthony & Kylie Kerr)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:44:26 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] help with step2vpl
Message-ID: <3C4D96E9.2F483EFF@pacific.net.au>
Hi
I have just discovered this fantastic project, my thanks to you all for
your work in the Lord. I am a newish Linux user (not developer) and
have abandoned Microsoft completely. On discovering the Sword project I
was overjoyed because the one hole in my Linux system was no bible
software.
I am in training for fulltime ministry in Sydney Australia and would
love to convert my Quickverse 4.0 modules to Sword. I have compiled the
utilities and copied them to usr/bin/ but I can't quite get the step2vpl
utility to go. Could someone please help? Alternatively could I become
a software tester to gain access to NIV, NASB, NKJV etc? (I would much
rather learn more about the project and Linux in general and do the
converting if possible.
Thanks, hope you don't mind my newbie-ish-ness.
Your brother in the Lord Jesus Christ
Anthony Kerr
PS Mandrake 8.1
Sword 1.5.2
Bibletime 1.02
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 13:48:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:48:23 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] SWModule:Lang working?
Message-ID: <200201221417.HAA24639@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
At the moment I'm doing some work on the API documentation of Sword. I came
across SWModule::Lang in swmodule.h.
Is this function doing anything except copying the language name to
SWModule::modlang?
I'm dreaming that this function can be used to let the modules appear have
the book names in the language of the module if the user likes it.
Another question: Wouldn't it be useful to put the Sword API documentation
online? Maybe using webcvs?
Thanks!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 14:19:44 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:19:44 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org/stats/ not working properly
Message-ID: <200201221426.HAA24725@www.crosswire.org>
I had a look at the staticstics, because I was curious how many modules are
downloaded each month.
But somehow the stats are not working properly.
For example http://www.crosswire.org/stats/usage_200112.html shows only the
last two days. The other months don't show correctly, too.
Does somebody know how to fix this?
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 14:22:45 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:22:45 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Bad Byte Count in Refresh from Remote Source
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020122081926.00a7f808@pop3.norton.antivirus>
I know it's a very small, almost insignificant thing, but the byte count
being transferred and the % complete are incorrect in the Install
Manager. If you click on "Refresh from Remote Source" to get the
up-to-date listing, once the download starts, the total number of bytes is
0 and the % complete is humongous, to say the least.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 15:49:56 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:49:56 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] BUG: VerseKey::setLocale doesn't work properly
Message-ID: <200201221650.JAA25529@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
While working on BibleTime's verse parsing I noticed some bad behaviour of
VerseKey::setLocale.
Have a look at this piece of code:
VerseKey bla;
bla = "James 1:19";
bla.setLocale("de");
cout << bla << endl;
bla = "Johannes 1:1";
cout << bla << endl;
The output of this is:
Jakobus 1:19
Offenbarung 22:21
The first one (Jakobus 1:1, which is James 1:19 in english) is correct. But
if I equate the VerseKey object after changing the locale with a german book
name (Johannes 1:1, which is John 1:1 in english) is returns all the time
Revelation 22:21.
Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?
Thank you very much for your support!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 19:58:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:58:16 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org/stats/ not working properly
In-Reply-To: <200201221426.HAA24725@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000101c1a37f$36d5a630$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> I had a look at the staticstics, because I was curious how
> many modules are
> downloaded each month.
>
> But somehow the stats are not working properly.
> For example http://www.crosswire.org/stats/usage_200112.html
> shows only the
> last two days. The other months don't show correctly, too.
>
> Does somebody know how to fix this?
I think this is happening because the log parsing and the log expiration
are out of sync, causing the logs to be expired before they've been
parsed (entirely or at all).
The other stats page: http://www.crosswire.org/stats.html is a little
better according to Troy. For module stats, just go to the Sword
homepage. Those stats are a lot more accurate because they take into
account all methods of downloading modules and they update about 3 times
daily. They only list the top 20 modules, but I could post a complete
list somewhere if you like.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 21:19:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Grove, Michael)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:19:16 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] unsubscribe sword-devel
Message-ID: <635D99946833D4118AFF00508B4AB44E01934753@pcsprodms04.gsm1900.org>
unsubscribe sword-devel
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 23:10:34 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:10:34 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] help with step2vpl
References: <3C4D96E9.2F483EFF@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <3C4DF16A.7101551A@crosswire.org>
Anthony,
Thanks for your interest and encouragement. It's been some time since
working on the step utils. I believe the step2vpl should output a good
vpl (1 verse per line) file, that you should then be able to run thru
vpl2mod to create a working sword module. I used it on a free NKJV step
module that Parson's posted on their site a while back. That was my
target-- to get it to work with this test step module, and that was the
last time I touched it. Please let me know what you tried, and the
result, so I might remember a little more to help, if I can.
-Troy.
Anthony & Kylie Kerr wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have just discovered this fantastic project, my thanks to you all for
> your work in the Lord. I am a newish Linux user (not developer) and
> have abandoned Microsoft completely. On discovering the Sword project I
> was overjoyed because the one hole in my Linux system was no bible
> software.
>
> I am in training for fulltime ministry in Sydney Australia and would
> love to convert my Quickverse 4.0 modules to Sword. I have compiled the
> utilities and copied them to usr/bin/ but I can't quite get the step2vpl
> utility to go. Could someone please help? Alternatively could I become
> a software tester to gain access to NIV, NASB, NKJV etc? (I would much
> rather learn more about the project and Linux in general and do the
> converting if possible.
>
> Thanks, hope you don't mind my newbie-ish-ness.
>
> Your brother in the Lord Jesus Christ
>
> Anthony Kerr
>
> PS Mandrake 8.1
> Sword 1.5.2
> Bibletime 1.02
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 23 18:12:07 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Anthony & Kylie Kerr)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:12:07 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Re:help with step2vpl
References: <3C4D96E9.2F483EFF@pacific.net.au> <3C4DF16A.7101551A@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4EFCF7.BA04938E@pacific.net.au>
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Thanks for your email Troy.
This is how I executed step2vpl (as root)
step2vpl /home/oozle-r/bibles/nasb/ /home/oozle-r/anton/
a message came up something like
error couldn't open file Book.dat
I checked step2vpl.cpp and at approx line 130 was the following
fileName = bookpath + "Book.dat";
however the Quickverse file I think it was looking for was called
books.dat
So I changed the name in step2vpl to books.dat, did a "make", copied to /usr/bin
and then ran step2vpl as per above. Then I got a message Aborted (core dump)
Core dump file as attached (it isn't that big 6k)
thanks in anticipation of your help.
yours in Christ
Anthony
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Thanks for your email Troy.
This is how I executed step2vpl (as root)
step2vpl /home/oozle-r/bibles/nasb/
/home/oozle-r/anton/
a message came up something like
error couldn't open
file Book.dat
I checked step2vpl.cpp and at approx line 130 was the following
fileName = bookpath
+ "Book.dat";
however the Quickverse file I think it was looking for was called
books.dat
So I changed the name in step2vpl to books.dat, did a "make", copied
to /usr/bin and then ran step2vpl as per above. Then I got a message
Aborted (core dump)
Core dump file as attached (it isn't that big 6k)
thanks in anticipation of your help.
yours in Christ
Anthony
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 23 13:04:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Trandahl, Steve)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:04:35 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Re:help with step2vpl
Message-ID: <916EA44D78B4D2118FE100805FBB8A2EC2CC9C@sfa-phl-1.cotelligent.com>
Anthony,
Seeing your email triggered a memory from a while back. Here's what Paul
Gear sent me when I briefly worked on the STEP portion over a year ago...
QuickVerse 4.x and earlier were not STEP-based. Try QV 5.0 or later.
See for the gory details. If you
poke around or search Craig's site, you'll find quite a bit of
information on QuickVerse and STEP.
Parsons have a free STEP NKJV on their FTP server:
. Gotta use Windows to
install it, though. :-(
Craig has also offered to me in the past to explain the 4.x and earlier
data format if anyone is interested in writing a driver for it. I would
certainly be interested in this, as it would let me use the NIV with
BibleTime! I understand that the format is a very simple binary
encoding where every word was given a 16-bit code.
Steve Trandahl
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony & Kylie Kerr [mailto:anton_kylie@pacific.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:12 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: [sword-devel] Re:help with step2vpl
Thanks for your email Troy.
This is how I executed step2vpl (as root)
step2vpl /home/oozle-r/bibles/nasb/ /home/oozle-r/anton/
a message came up something like
error couldn't open file Book.dat
I checked step2vpl.cpp and at approx line 130 was the following
fileName = bookpath + "Book.dat";
however the Quickverse file I think it was looking for was called
books.dat
So I changed the name in step2vpl to books.dat, did a "make", copied to
/usr/bin and then ran step2vpl as per above. Then I got a message Aborted
(core dump)
Core dump file as attached (it isn't that big 6k)
thanks in anticipation of your help.
yours in Christ
Anthony
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 23 15:16:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:16:48 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bible search
In-Reply-To: <3C4DF16A.7101551A@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <004201c1a420$fa5a1180$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Thought you all might enjoy this:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cx/uc/20020115/ft/ft020115.html?u
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 09:20:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:20:32 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
Message-ID: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
that should be of interest. Try something like:
cd sword/tests
mkdir yoyo
./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
?
The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
at the printTree method in the test program to see.
There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
possible thought is for bookmark data.
NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
it right!
Blessings,
-Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 11:23:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:23:13 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4FEEA1.1315.FF6F6C1@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
done and checked in (I think I got everything, one way to find out).
d
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 11:23:04 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:23:04 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] debian users have it easy
Message-ID: <3C4FEE98.12613.FF6D501@localhost>
well, it's on a par with installmanager at least :)
If there is anyone else out there on the list using Debian you can now install your
modules with apt etc.
Just add
deb http://www.crosswire.org/~glasseyes/debian unstable main
to your sources.list and away you go.
Note that the debs are built with an autoscript and are mostly untested. Bug reports
appreciated.
Ta,
Daniel
P.S. I don't know how to word it as a news item but it would be great if it could be
an item on the websites.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 11:56:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:56:16 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4FF660.22914.1015380E@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
just a quickie. rawstr.cpp gave a compiler warning saying that preptext shouldn't be
static there. I changed it locally and it was ok, and still static in the header. I checked
it in by mistake, so I hope that is ok.
after changing that it compiles straight through.
d
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 12:08:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:08:33 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4FF941.107.1020785D@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
er, trying this on crosswire ...
[glasseyes@www tests]$ mkdir yoyo
[glasseyes@www tests]$ ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[glasseyes@www tests]$ ls
H (@H (@ybook.dat compzip indextest listtest.o romantest
H (@H (@ybook.idx compzip.o indextest.o localetest romantest.o
Makefile configtest introtest localetest.o swaptest
casttest configtest.o introtest.o mgrtest swaptest.o
casttest.o core keycast mgrtest.o testblocks
complzss filtertest keycast.o modtest testblocks.o
complzss.o filtertest.o keytest modtest.o treeidxtest
compnone genbooktest keytest.o parsekey treeidxtest.o
compnone.o genbooktest.o listtest parsekey.o yoyo
[glasseyes@www tests]$ ls yoyo
mybook.bdt
[glasseyes@www tests]$
[glasseyes@www .libs]$ !gdb
gdb ./genbooktest
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"...
(gdb) set args ./yoyo/mybook
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/glasseyes/cvs/sword/build/tests/.libs/./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x40144525 in
__as__t12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b1i0PCc
(this=0x4011b53c, s=0x0)
at ../../../libstdc++/std/straits.h:125
125 ../../../libstdc++/std/straits.h: No such file or directory.
(gdb) bt
#0 0x40144525 in
__as__t12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b1i0PCc
(this=0x4011b53c, s=0x0)
at ../../../libstdc++/std/straits.h:125
#1 0x40081127 in TreeKeyIdx::getFullName (this=0x80522a0)
at ../../src/keys/treekeyidx.cpp:133
#2 0x804ca12 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbffffc64)
at ../../tests/genbooktest.cpp:122
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 13:44:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Martin Gruner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:44:19 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201241351.GAA28483@www.crosswire.org>
Troy,
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
Thank you so much. This is really awesome and will have a huge impact on the
Sword project, I guess.
Some quick questions:
-how can I find out how many levels a treekey has?
-could you please post a GBS module (content doesn't matter) for testing,
with a difficult/complicated tree layout with many levels?
-when do you expect sword 1.5.3 to be released? (Sorry for my nagging, but we
are close to a BT release. Please do the bookmarking later.)
Again, many thanks for all your efforts, the time and energy you invest, from
the whole BibleTime project. I really hope that God will reward you.
May His Word be spread through the Sword and related projects!
Martin
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 14:09:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:09:38 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201241423.HAA28711@www.crosswire.org>
Troy and Chris!
You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to spread Gods word
in the world!
I'll test this now!
Joachim
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
>
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
>
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
>
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
>
> Blessings,
> -Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 15:01:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:01:27 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000401c1a4e7$ff9d8b00$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Troy,
As a non-programming hipster-dufus, I am not sure what all that means, but
it sounds cool. I think that general book support will explode the
usefulness of Sword beyond comprehension. We are cheering for you guys. Keep
up the great work.
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:21 AM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
>
>
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
>
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
>
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
>
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
>
> Blessings,
> -Troy.
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 16:10:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:10:27 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <200201241423.HAA28711@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C5031F3.30665.574C82@localhost>
I should've said earlier but I'll add my thanks to the chorus :)
Daniel
P.S. Doesn't work for me on cygwin either. I think I might have traced the problem to these lines in
genbooktest.cpp
RawGenBook *book = new RawGenBook(argv[1]);
TreeKeyIdx root = *(TreeKeyIdx *)(SWKey *)(*book);
treeKey = (TreeKeyIdx *)(SWKey *)(*book);
string input;
char line[1024];
do {
cout << "[" << treeKey->getFullName() << "] > ";
afaict it is crashing on the getFullName.
ah,
//TreeKeyIdx *root = *(TreeKeyIdx *)(SWKey *)(*book);
TreeKeyIdx root = *((TreeKeyIdx *)((SWKey *)(*book)));
if I use brackets to explicitly do the cast it works, checking that in
P.P.S. (now it's working) Wow!
On 24 Jan 2002 at 15:09, Joachim Ansorg sent forth the message:
> Troy and Chris!
>
> You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to spread Gods word
> in the world!
> I'll test this now!
>
> Joachim
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 17:16:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:16:18 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] debian users have it easy
In-Reply-To: <3C4FEE98.12613.FF6D501@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C504162.29819.9398AB@localhost>
P.S. Forgot to say, more details on www.crosswire.org/~glasseyes
On 24 Jan 2002 at 11:23, Daniel Glassey sent forth the message:
> well, it's on a par with installmanager at least :)
>
> If there is anyone else out there on the list using Debian you can now install your
> modules with apt etc.
> Just add
> deb http://www.crosswire.org/~glasseyes/debian unstable main
> to your sources.list and away you go.
> Note that the debs are built with an autoscript and are mostly untested. Bug reports
> appreciated.
>
> Ta,
> Daniel
>
> P.S. I don't know how to word it as a news item but it would be great if it could be
> an item on the websites.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 18:09:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:09:17 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C504DCD.14373.C4192C@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
what can I say but great :) Thanks guys.
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
ok, couple of things after playing with genbooktest
did you mean this instead? (set text doesn't work unless you enter "." ;) )
genbooktest: 56:
-if ((buf[0] != '.') || (buf[1] != 0))
+if ((buf[0] == '.') && (buf[1] == 0))
when you get the text back after entering it, the newlines are stripped, dunno if this is good or
bad.
In RawGenBook::getRawEntry
there is a local variable key as well as the class variable key. This is confusing. (at least I think
that is what is happening, I think this may be causing problems but I'm not sure).
The rest is working great.
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
Hope you had a good sleep :)
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
btw, I haven't noticed you saying. What are you out there for, what are the meetings about if
you can say?
Regards,
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 22:39:10 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:39:10 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <200201241423.HAA28711@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000001c1a527$f3b15fc0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> Troy and Chris!
>
> You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to
> spread Gods word
> in the world!
> I'll test this now!
Just to clarify. Troy did all the real work. All I did was play
solitaire and complain that Troy hadn't finished GBS & zLD. I'll
concentrate my continued complaints on zLD's non-completion. :)
I'll try to get a ThML importer written tonight, assuming I can figure
it all out.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 21:43:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:43:05 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201242150.OAA32094@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
Tested it. It's not working, sorry! Even with Daniel's fix it works not in
all cases.
If I run "treeindextest yoyo" it creates some data files. Only if the data
files were created by treeindextest "genbooktest yoyo" works (starting
without crash). Otherwise I get
./genbooktest yoyo
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Segmentation fault
Thank you!
Joachim
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
>
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
>
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
>
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
>
> Blessings,
> -Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 21:46:42 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:46:42 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <000001c1a527$f3b15fc0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
References: <000001c1a527$f3b15fc0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <200201242153.OAA32131@www.crosswire.org>
Well done, Chris ;)
But don't force Troy to write code if he's so tired. Code may get worse :)
Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used? Would be cool.
Joachim
> > Troy and Chris!
> >
> > You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to
> > spread Gods word
> > in the world!
> > I'll test this now!
>
> Just to clarify. Troy did all the real work. All I did was play
> solitaire and complain that Troy hadn't finished GBS & zLD. I'll
> concentrate my continued complaints on zLD's non-completion. :)
>
> I'll try to get a ThML importer written tonight, assuming I can figure
> it all out.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 22:02:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Hastings)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:02:35 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Transliterations
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020124142531.00a38590@mail.dancris.com>
Chris and Troy.
Here is a rough draft of the help for the new transliteration feature in
BibleCS:
Transliteration changes a text from the script that would be displayed into
a transliteration of it. If the text was Greek, an alpha would become an
"A" or "a", and a beta would become a "B" or "b". This is useful when
documents are prepared for sharing with others that may not be able to
display the native script. For posting text to a newsgroup or an email
list, a transliteration is often the standard format. Transliteration works
for Greek, Hebrew and many other languages.
Comments or suggestions?
After looking at the B-Greek right click copy feature you told me about. It
seems to me that generalizing the B-Greek right click copy feature to a
Copy as Transliteration feature, where one could select any of the
transliterations and use it on many modules, would often be better than
turning transliteration on and off. I would keep the on/off option but add
the copy as transliteration.
JerryPH
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 23:07:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:07:14 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
References: <001a01c1a0f8$9e6f1c60$aac668d5@tinypc>
Message-ID: <3C5093A2.9DA4A5C3@crosswire.org>
accessing a module is fairly straight forward. something like this
should work:
SWMgr mgr;
SWModule *module = mgr.Modules["KJV"];
for ((*module) = TOP; !module->Error(); (*module)++) {
// do something like:
cout << (const char *)(*module);
}
Hope this helps
There is also a utility in the utilities directory called mod2vpl that
will output a 'verse per line' text file from a module.
In Christ's blessings,
-Troy.
"W. Simpson" wrote:
>
> In reply to Chris Little:
>
> Hi,
>
> >> Like I said, I can't port anything. Whether or not I can solicit someone
> to
> >> do the work is another matter. One particular objection I see is that
> >> RISC OS prides itself on its own distinctive style, expecting very
> different
> >> desktop behaviour from its programs than that of something built for
> >> windows. I can't see Sword working acceptably in a RISC OS environment,
> >> (though I know very little about porting anything to anywhere).
>
> >Sword itself is just a library. Once you have that compiled, you could
> >just call it and write whatever exporter or viewer you like.
>
> I see.
>
> >> Hmmm, I was hoping there might be some relatively simple decompression
> >> algorithm I could apply to each file.
>
> >They are compressed in a simple decompression algorithm, namely zip. But
> >it isn't simply zipped as a whole, we compress blocks (chapters or books)
> >and place them in a file, then index the location in a second file.
>
> Which would account for why the RSV appears encrypted having been
> extracted from its ZIP file, and contains more files than the KJV module.
>
> RSV:
>
> nt.bzs
> nt.bzc
> nt
> ot.bzs
> ot.bzv
> ot
> rsv.sgm
>
> Yes, I see what you mean. It isn't a perfectly straightforward decompression
> of each file. All the same, if anyone is willing to attach the relevant
> pieces of source code to an e-mail for me (or someone else) to examine now
> or in the future, with any other useful remarks, I would be grateful.
>
> Thank you all once again :-)
>
> Shalom,
>
> W.Simpson
> www.logosword.co.uk
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 23:23:58 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:23:58 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] locales.d/fi.conf with some questions
References: <200201210802.g0L826T22434@keskus.tct.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <3C50978E.48AA3AF3@crosswire.org>
Thank you for the FINNISH locale! I'm not sure your question about
different book names. But... Our locales files REQUIRE you to have a
[Book Abbrevs] entry that resolves to EXACTLY the book name translation
run thru toupper() (whatever that produces :)). If you would like both
these references. then you could do something like:
[Book Abbrevs]
LAULUJEN LAULU=22
KORKEA VEISU=22
NOTE: The first one is REQUIRED for SWORD to use your locale
correctly. This is because the first is how you translated 'Song of
Solomon' on your locale that you attached. The second (and any number
of additional variants) may be added, optionally.
Hope this helps.
-Troy.
PS. Thanks again! Please send updates as you refine. You may use the
parsekey test tool to try your locale out!
Markus Peuhkuri wrote:
>
> Here is attached locale for Finnish; but I have some questions.
>
> The book names are according 1992 version of Finnish Bible and there
> are some differences to 1933,1938 version of "Pyhä Raamattu" (yes,
> there is some 8bit>7bit conversion error at list: in 7bit HTML it
> should read "Pyhä Raamattu"; the Old Testament was taken in use
> in 1933, the New Testament 1938). For example:
>
> - Song of Solomon is "Laulujen Laulu" in 1992 version and "Korkea
> Veisu" (Kork.v) in 1933 version.
>
> - There is no prefix "Paavalin" (Paulus') in letters to
> Romans--Philemon in 1992 version.
>
> There may be other differences also which I do not remember anymore.
> How these differences should be marked in locales?
>
> Another question is about converting Bible (the 1992 version). The
> 1992 version is formated as running text i.e. it has multi-verse
> paragraphs (with breaks possibly in middle of verse), poems (and
> songs) do have line structure and there are informative headings
> (again possibly in middle of verse). How these should be handled in
> conversion?
>
> The 1992 version has some copyright issues, but I think they are not a
> big problem as in 1994 we got right to publish text in HTML format for
> personal study, this is mainly an extension. And in worst case, we
> can just provide conversion script and one downloads the HTML version
> by oneself and runs the converter.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Meta]
> Name=fi
> Description=Finnish
>
> [Text]
> Genesis=Ensimmäinen Mooseksen kirja
> Exodus=Toinen Mooseksen kirja
> Leviticus=Kolmas Mooseksen kirja
> Numbers=Neljäs Mooseksen kirja
> Deuteronomy=Viides Mooseksen kirja
> Joshua=Joosuan kirja
> Judges=Tuomarien kirja
> Ruth=Ruutin kirja
> I Samuel=Ensimmäinen Samuelin kirja
> II Samuel=Toinen Samuelin kirja
> I Kings=Ensimmäinen kuninkaiden kirja
> II Kings=Toinen kuninkaiden kirja
> I Chronicles=Ensimmäinen aikakirja
> II Chronicles=Toinen aikakirja
> Ezra=Esran kirja
> Nehemiah=Nehemian kirja
> Esther=Esterin kirja
> Job=Jobin kirja
> Psalms=Psalmien kirja
> Proverbs=Sananlaskujen kirja
> Ecclesiastes=Saarnaajan kirja
> Song of Solomon=Laulujen kirja
> Isaiah=Jesajan kirja
> Jeremiah=Jeremian kirja
> Lamentations=Valitusvirret
> Ezekiel=Hesekielin kirja
> Daniel=Danielin kirja
> Hosea=Hoosean kirja
> Joel=Joelin kirja
> Amos=Aamoksen kirja
> Obadiah=Obadjan kirja
> Jonah=Joonan kirja
> Micah=Miikan kirja
> Nahum=Nahumin kirja
> Habakkuk=Habakukin kirja
> Zephaniah=Sefanjan kirja
> Haggai=Haggain kirja
> Zechariah=Sakarjan kirja
> Malachi=Malakian kirja
> Matthew=Evankeliumi Matteuksen mukaan
> Mark=Evankeliumi Markuksen mukaan
> Luke=Evankeliumi Luukkaan mukaan
> John=Evankeliumi Johanneksen mukaan
> Acts=Apostolien teot
> Romans=Kirje roomalaisille
> I Corinthians=Ensimminen kirje korinttilaisille
> II Corinthians=Toinen kirje korinttilaisille
> Galatians=Kirje galatalaisille
> Ephesians=Kirje efesolaisille
> Philippians=Kirje filippiläisille
> Colossians=Kirje kolossalaisille
> I Thessalonians=Ensimmäinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
> II Thessalonians=Toinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
> I Timothy=Ensimmäinen kirje Timoteukselle
> II Timothy=Toinen kirje Timoteukselle
> Titus=Kirje Titukselle
> Philemon=Kirje Filemonille
> Hebrews=Kirje heprealaisille
> James=Jaakobin kirje
> I Peter=Ensimmäinen Pietarin kirje
> II Peter=Toinen Pietarin kirje
> I John=Ensimmäinen Johanneksen kirje
> II John=Toinen Johanneksen kirje
> III John=Kolmas Johanneksen kirje
> Jude=Juudaksen kirje
> Revelation of John=Johanneksen ilmestys
>
> [Book Abbrevs]
>
> 1 C=46
> 1 CHRONICLES=13
> 1 CORINTHIANS=46
> 1 JN=62
> 1 JOHN=62
> 1 KGS=11
> 1 KINGS=11
> 1 PETER=60
> 1 PTR=60
> 1 SAMUEL=9
> 1 THESSALONIANS=52
> 1 TIMOTHY=54
> 1C=46
> 1CHRONICLES=13
> 1CORINTHIANS=46
> 1JN=62
> 1JOHN=62
> 1KGS=11
> 1KINGS=11
> 1PETER=60
> 1PTR=60
> 1SAMUEL=9
> 1THESSALONIANS=52
> 1TIMOTHY=54
> 2 C=47
> 2 CHRONICLES=14
> 2 CORINTHIANS=47
> 2 JN=63
> 2 JOHN=63
> 2 KGS=12
> 2 KINGS=12
> 2 PETER=61
> 2 PTR=61
> 2 SAMUEL=10
> 2 THESSALONIANS=53
> 2 TIMOTHY=55
> 2C=47
> 2CHRONICLES=14
> 2CORINTHIANS=47
> 2JN=63
> 2JOHN=63
> 2KGS=12
> 2KINGS=12
> 2PETER=61
> 2PTR=61
> 2SAMUEL=10
> 2THESSALONIANS=53
> 2TIMOTHY=55
> 3 JN=64
> 3 JOHN=64
> 3JN=64
> 3JOHN=64
> ACTS=44
> AMOS=30
> APOCALYPSE OF ST. JOHN=66
> C=51
> CANTICLE OF CANTICLES=22
> COC=22
> COLOSSIANS=51
> D=5
> DANIEL=27
> DEUTERONOMY=5
> E=49
> ECCLESIASTES=21
> EPHESIANS=49
> ESTER=17
> ESTHER=17
> EXODUS=2
> EZEKIEL=26
> EZRA=15
> G=1
> GALATIANS=48
> GENESIS=1
> H=58
> HABAKKUK=35
> HAGGAI=37
> HEBREWS=58
> HOSEA=28
> I C=46
> I CHRONICLES=13
> I CORINTHIANS=46
> I JN=62
> I JOHN=62
> I KGS=11
> I KINGS=11
> I PETER=60
> I PTR=60
> I SAMUEL=9
> I THESSALONIANS=52
> I TIMOTHY=54
> IC=46
> ICHRONICLES=13
> ICORINTHIANS=46
> II C=47
> II CHRONICLES=14
> II CORINTHIANS=47
> II JN=63
> II JOHN=63
> II KGS=12
> II KINGS=12
> II PETER=61
> II PTR=61
> II SAMUEL=10
> II THESSALONIANS=53
> II TIMOTHY=55
> IIC=47
> IICHRONICLES=14
> IICORINTHIANS=47
> III JN=64
> III JOHN=64
> IIIJN=64
> IIIJOHN=64
> IIJN=63
> IIJOHN=63
> IIKGS=12
> IIKINGS=12
> IIPETER=61
> IIPTR=61
> IISAMUEL=10
> IITHESSALONIANS=53
> IITIMOTHY=55
> IJN=62
> IJOHN=62
> IKGS=11
> IKINGS=11
> IPETER=60
> IPTR=60
> ISA=23
> ISAIAH=23
> ISAMUEL=9
> ITHESSALONIANS=52
> ITIMOTHY=54
> J=43
> JAMES=59
> JAS=59
> JEREMIAH=24
> JN=43
> JO=43
> JOB=18
> JOEL=29
> JOHN=43
> JONAH=32
> JOSHUA=6
> JUD=7
> JUDE=65
> JUDGES=7
> L=42
> LAMENTATIONS=25
> LEVITICUS=3
> LK=42
> LUKE=42
> MA=40
> MALACHI=39
> MARK=41
> MATTHEW=40
> MICAH=33
> MK=41
> MR=41
> MT=40
> N=4
> NAHUM=34
> NEHEMIAH=16
> NUMBERS=4
> OBADIAH=31
> P=19
> PH=50
> PHILEMON=57
> PHILIPPIANS=50
> PHM=57
> PHP=50
> PROVERBS=20
> PSALMS=19
> PSM=19
> PSS=19
> REVELATION OF JOHN=66
> ROMANS=45
> RUTH=8
> SONG OF SOLOMON=22
> SONG OF SONGS=22
> SOS=22
> TITUS=56
> ZECHARIAH=38
> ZEPHANIAH=36
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> JOOS=6
> TUOM=7
> RUUT=8
> 1. SAM=9
> 2. SAM=10
> 1. KUN=11
> 2. KUN=12
> 1. AIK=13
> 2. AIK=14
> ESRA=15
> NEH=16
> EST=17
> JOB=18
> PS=19
> SANANL=20
> SAARN=21
> LAULL=22
> JES=23
> JER=24
> VALIT=25
> HESL=26
> DAN=27
> HOOS=28
> JOEL=29
> AAM=30
> OB=31
> JOONA=32
> MIIKA=33
> NAH=34
> HAB=35
> SEF=36
> HAGG=37
> SAK=38
> MAL=39
> MATT=40
> MARK=41
> LUUK=42
> JOH=43
> APT=44
> ROOM=45
> 1. KOR=46
> 2. KOR=47
> GAL=48
> EF=49
> FIL=50
> KOL=51
> 1. TESS=52
> 2. TESS=53
> 1. TIM=54
> 2. TIM=55
> TIT=56
> FILEM=57
> HEPR=58
> JAAK=59
> 1. PIET=60
> 2. PIET=61
> 1. JOH=62
> 2. JOH=63
> 3. JOH=64
> JUUD=65
> ILM=66
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 03:06:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Bobby Nations)
Date: 24 Jan 2002 21:06:35 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] unti test classes for JSword
In-Reply-To: <1010921197.16096.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1010921197.16096.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1011927997.1291.2.camel@amos>
All,
Ok, it's almost two weeks since I submitted the three files in this
thread, and I still don't see them in CVS. What would it take to get
priveledges to the CVS server so that I could continue working on the
JSword port? It's getting a little old waiting.
Please if anyone else is still working on JSword, let me know because
I'd like to be able to email questions without necessarily going through
the mailing list. Brainstorming type stuff.
Thanks,
Bobby
On Sun, 2002-01-13 at 05:26, Bobby Nations wrote:
> All,
>
> I've made some progress on getting the unit test classes up and going on
> the JSword project. Attached are two test classes along with a new ant
> build containing targets to run all test cases and generate reports on
> their results. The target names are 'test' and 'results' respectively.
> In order to run the results target, you'll need two jar files from the
> apache group's xalan xml project, xalan.jar and xerces.jar, to be either
> in your CLASSPATH or in the ANT_HOME/lib directory. I'm working with
> them to get this requirement removed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bobby
>
> P.S. Is anyone else working on JSword?
>
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> // CanonTest.java
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> package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
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> import junit.framework.TestCase;
> import junit.framework.TestSuite;
>
> /**
> * CanonTest (Copyright 2001 )
> *
> * This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
> *
> * @author Bobby Nations
> * @date $Date: $
> * @version $Revision: $
> *
> * @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
> * @see some.other.package
> */
>
> public class CanonTest extends TestCase
> {
> /**
> * Constructor (needed for JTest)
> * @param name Name of Object
> */
> public CanonTest(String name) {
> super(name);
> }
>
> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
> */
> protected void setUp() {
> canon = new Canon();
> }
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> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
> */
> protected void tearDown() {
> canon = null;
> }
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> /**
> * Test the constructor: Canon()
> */
> public void testCanon() {
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the old testament books array #1
> */
> public void testOTBooks1() {
> assertTrue( "Genesis" == canon.otbooks[0].name );
> assertTrue( 50 == canon.otbooks[0].chapmax );
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the old testament books array #2
> */
> public void testOTBooks2() {
> assertTrue( "Psalms" == canon.otbooks[18].name );
> assertTrue( 150 == canon.otbooks[18].chapmax );
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the old testament books array #3
> */
> public void testOTBooks3() {
> assertTrue( "Malachi" == canon.otbooks[38].name );
> assertTrue( 4 == canon.otbooks[38].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array length
> */
> public void testOTBooksLength() {
> assertTrue( 39 == canon.otbooks.length );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array #1
> */
> public void testNTBooks1() {
> assertTrue( "Matthew" == canon.ntbooks[0].name );
> assertTrue( 28 == canon.ntbooks[0].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array #2
> */
> public void testNTBooks2() {
> assertTrue( "Titus" == canon.ntbooks[16].name );
> assertTrue( 3 == canon.ntbooks[16].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array #3
> */
> public void testNTBooks3() {
> assertTrue( "Revelation of John" == canon.ntbooks[26].name );
> assertTrue( 22 == canon.ntbooks[26].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array length
> */
> public void testNTBooksLength() {
> assertTrue( 27 == canon.ntbooks.length );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #1
> */
> public void testAbbrevs1() {
> assertTrue( "1 C" == canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].ab );
> assertTrue( 46 == canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].book );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #2
> */
> public void testAbbrevs2() {
> assertTrue( "PSALMS" == canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].ab );
> assertTrue( 19 == canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].book );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #3
> */
> public void testAbbrevs3() {
> int n = canon.builtin_abbrevs.length;
> assertTrue( "" == canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].ab );
> assertTrue( -1 == canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].book );
> }
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> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #4
> */
> public void testAbbrevsLength() {
> assertTrue( 184 == canon.builtin_abbrevs.length );
> }
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> /**
> * Main method needed to make a self runnable class
> *
> * @param args This is required for main method
> */
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(CanonTest.class) );
> }
>
> private Canon canon;
> }
> ----
>
> // SWKeyTest.java
>
> package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
>
> import junit.framework.TestCase;
> import junit.framework.TestSuite;
>
> /**
> * SWKeyTest (Copyright 2001 )
> *
> * This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
> *
> * Explanation about the tested class and its responsibilities
> *
> * Relations:
> * SWKey extends java.lang.Object
> * SWKey implements java.lang.Cloneable, java.lang.Comparable
> *
> * @author -
> * @date $Date: $
> * @version $Revision: $
> *
> * @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
> * @see some.other.package
> */
>
> public class SWKeyTest extends TestCase
> {
>
> /**
> * Constructor (needed for JTest)
> * @param name Name of Object
> */
> public SWKeyTest(String name) {
> super(name);
> }
>
> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
> */
> protected void setUp() {
> //swkey = new SWKey();
> }
>
> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
> */
> protected void tearDown() {
> swkey = null;
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the constructor: SWKey()
> */
> public void testSWKey() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the constructor: SWKey(String)
> */
> public void testSWKey_1() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> String str [] = {null, "\u0000", " "};
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the constructor: SWKey(SWKey)
> */
> public void testSWKey_2() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> //SWKey;
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: int compareTo(Object)
> */
> public void testCompareTo() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> Object oValues [] = { null };
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: java.lang.Object clone()
> */
> public void testClone() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: String toString()
> */
> public void testToString() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void set(SWKey)
> */
> public void testSet() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> //SWKey;
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void next(int)
> */
> public void testNext_1() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> int intValues [] = {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void next()
> */
> public void testNext() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void previous(int)
> */
> public void testPrevious_1() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> int intValues [] = {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void previous()
> */
> public void testPrevious() {
>
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>
> /**
> * Test method: String getText()
> */
> public void testGetText() {
>
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>
> /**
> * Test method: int getError()
> */
> public void testGetError() {
>
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>
> /**
> * Test method: void position(int)
> */
> public void testPosition() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> int intValues [] = {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: boolean isPersist()
> */
> public void testIsPersist() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void setPersist(boolean)
> */
> public void testSetPersist() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> boolean BValues [] = { true, false };
>
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>
> /**
> * Test method: boolean traversable()
> */
> public void testTraversable() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void setText(String)
> */
> public void testSetText() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> String str [] = {null, "\u0000", " "};
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Main method needed to make a self runnable class
> *
> * @param args This is required for main method
> */
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(SWKeyTest.class) );
> }
> private SWKey swkey;
> }
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 08:15:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:15:17 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <200201242153.OAA32131@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000601c1a578$7129fc00$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> Well done, Chris ;)
> But don't force Troy to write code if he's so tired. Code may
> get worse :)
Actually, I had gone to bed by 12 like a good little boy who knew he had
to be up for a meeting at 9. Troy on the other hand....
> Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used?
> Would be cool.
Yes. Yes it would. :)
Unfortunately only a small subset of the CCEL texts are in ThML, but you
could all go help Harry out by converting the rest into ThML. :)
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 10:12:47 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (mcp)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 6:12:47 EDT
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
Message-ID: <101195356801@mail1.emumail.net>
hey folks
more graphics: http://members.truepath.com/matt1260/sword/index.html
Please take what gfx you will, I won't leave them up forever.. I will create more graphics soon. I guess I'll just create stuff as I think up things, and you can make use of what you will...
blessyah!
Matt
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 13:17:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:17:37 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <000601c1a578$7129fc00$773395a6@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <004e01c1a5a2$a8c5b9e0$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
> > Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used?
> > Would be cool.
>
> Yes. Yes it would. :)
> Unfortunately only a small subset of the CCEL texts are in ThML, but you
> could all go help Harry out by converting the rest into ThML. :)
EXACTLY! :D There are only a small group of programmers working on Sword,
but I think many many more people out there are capable of tagging texts
with ThML mark up. Anyone can do that. Once we have a ThML manager/viewer I
think that many more people would join the effort of placing texts into
ThML. It would not be long before Sword could boast of having more texts
available in their format than Logos or QuickVerse.
I am just wondering, since this jump to general book support is so huge,
wouldn't it warrant a 2.0 designation?
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 13:51:49 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Todd Pedlar)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:51:49 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
References: <004e01c1a5a2$a8c5b9e0$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Message-ID: <059201c1a5a7$71434500$612f5480@lns.cornell.edu>
CCEL has a lot of nice tools for converting to ThML, too. Are we really
going in this direction with Sword? :) :) That would be really great...
I'd like to get into the ThML side if we're moving there... just let me
know what you see as priorities
todd
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don A. Elbourne Jr."
To:
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] General Book Support
> > > Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used?
> > > Would be cool.
> >
> > Yes. Yes it would. :)
> > Unfortunately only a small subset of the CCEL texts are in ThML, but you
> > could all go help Harry out by converting the rest into ThML. :)
>
>
> EXACTLY! :D There are only a small group of programmers working on Sword,
> but I think many many more people out there are capable of tagging texts
> with ThML mark up. Anyone can do that. Once we have a ThML manager/viewer
I
> think that many more people would join the effort of placing texts into
> ThML. It would not be long before Sword could boast of having more texts
> available in their format than Logos or QuickVerse.
>
> I am just wondering, since this jump to general book support is so huge,
> wouldn't it warrant a 2.0 designation?
>
>
> by grace alone,
>
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 16:38:22 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:38:22 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <200201182244.g0IMiOT01762@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost>
On 18 Jan 2002 at 16:44, Jerry Kreps sent forth the message:
> On Friday 18 January 2002 08:53, you wrote:
> > According to this bug on sourceforge
> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&gro
> >up_i d=9516&atid=109516
> >
> > gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
> > src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would
> > be best to rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr,
> > rawstr4.
>
> Why design to a specific distro, or against one?
Why have it compile on MSVC, or C++ builder either then?
Because at least some people use those and it should compile out of the box for them. Same
principle for Redhat 7.2
> > It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not
> > convinced this is the most intuitive name it could be.
> >
> > getText is another option though that would be very prone to typos.
> > Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
>
> These approaches can lead to confusion...
> Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
> icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
Good idea. Don't know anything about c++ namespaces yet myself. anyone?
> Also, I notice that in 11 source files and 6 headers 'extern "C" '
> wraps are being used so g++ won't mangle the C code being wrapped.
> Why not rewrite the C code so it is C++ compliant?
roman.h and roman.c could easily move to cpp afaict
the zlib stuff is a C lib external to sword to it should stay extern "C"
the flatapi stuff needs to be accessed from Kylix so I assume that should stay as it is.
As for stricmp in utilstr.cpp, dunno.
The regex stuff is an optional replacement if the system doesn't have regex.h so I assume that
should stay as is.
I think that is all there is.
> > Maybe readtext describes what it does better, reading the text into
> > a provided buffer rather than returning it?
> >
> > (fwiw I'd go for readtext)
Daniel
P.S. I'd still like to change it to readtext, but that can wait. ;)
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 19:26:08 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:26:08 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <059201c1a5a7$71434500$612f5480@lns.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <000b01c1a5d6$270778b0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
> CCEL has a lot of nice tools for converting to ThML, too.
> Are we really going in this direction with Sword? :) :) That
> would be really great... I'd like to get into the ThML side
> if we're moving there... just let me know what you see as priorities
What we're REALLY moving toward is OSIS, but that's not defined yet.
Until then, we will use ThML. And the path for converting from ThML to
OSIS should not be too difficult if we decide to convert all our content
(and we won't need to do this because we already have a system of using
multiple content markup drivers).
It's been my position since I joined the project and probably was
assumed before I joined that ThML would be used for
non-[Bible|commentary|LD] modules when we supported them. So, go
contribute work to CCEL or markup your own works in ThML.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 19:45:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:45:15 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <004e01c1a5a2$a8c5b9e0$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Message-ID: <000c01c1a5d8$d27ab2a0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
> EXACTLY! :D There are only a small group of programmers
> working on Sword, but I think many many more people out there
> are capable of tagging texts with ThML mark up. Anyone can do
> that. Once we have a ThML manager/viewer I think that many
> more people would join the effort of placing texts into ThML.
> It would not be long before Sword could boast of having more
> texts available in their format than Logos or QuickVerse.
I would like to see 1000 modules complete by year's end. We're about
740 modules from that goal right now. Between everything in OLB and
everything on CCEL, I think we've got a signifigant body of works to
import.
> I am just wondering, since this jump to general book support
> is so huge, wouldn't it warrant a 2.0 designation?
It's not that huge, in terms of the library. :) It's huge in terms of
utility and user experience, but it uses such a similar API to our other
classes that some utilities written for RawText & the other drivers
still work for RawGenBook.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 22:12:54 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:12:54 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
In-Reply-To: <101195356801@mail1.emumail.net>
References: <101195356801@mail1.emumail.net>
Message-ID: <200201252212.g0PMCsr01612@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 25 January 2002 04:12, you wrote:
> hey folks
> more graphics:
> http://members.truepath.com/matt1260/sword/index.html Please take
> what gfx you will, I won't leave them up forever.. I will create
> more graphics soon. I guess I'll just create stuff as I think up
> things, and you can make use of what you will... blessyah!
> Matt
The one at the bottom of the list is beautiful! Numero uno!
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 22:22:34 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:22:34 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost> <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201252222.g0PMMYr01687@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 25 January 2002 10:38, you wrote:
[snip]
>
> > > It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm
> > > not convinced this is the most intuitive name it could be.
> > >
> > > getText is another option though that would be very prone to
> > > typos. Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
> >
> > These approaches can lead to confusion...
> > Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
> > icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
>
> Good idea. Don't know anything about c++ namespaces yet myself.
> anyone?
file:/home/jerry/TICPP/V1/Frames-expanded-TOC.html
And do a find on 'namespace' in the left panel. The concept is as
easy as falling off a log, and eliminates a lot of possible problems
with name collisions.
JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 23:05:31 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
In-Reply-To: <200201252212.g0PMCsr01612@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <000201c1a5f4$c96f4380$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a graphic
with Tux reading a Bible. :)
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 01:10:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (mcp)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:10:24 EDT
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
Message-ID: <101200742901@mail1.emumail.net>
who is Tux?
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600 "Don A. Elbourne Jr." wrote:
> You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a
> graphic
> with Tux reading a Bible. :)
>
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
>
------------------------
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mpennock@mygfa.org
http://members.truepath.com/matt1260
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 01:52:07 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Burry)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:52:07 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
References: <101200742901@mail1.emumail.net>
Message-ID: <3C520BC6.1BB6F693@tagnet.org>
Tux is the little linux penguin dude...
Dave
mcp wrote:
> who is Tux?
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600 "Don A. Elbourne Jr." wrote:
>
> > You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a
> > graphic
> > with Tux reading a Bible. :)
> >
> > Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> > http://elbourne.org
> >
>
> ------------------------
> Matt Pennock
> mpennock@mygfa.org
> http://members.truepath.com/matt1260
> ____________________________________________________
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 03:38:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:38:14 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <200201252222.g0PMMYr01687@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost> <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost> <200201252222.g0PMMYr01687@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <200201260338.g0Q3cEr03527@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 25 January 2002 16:22, you wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2002 10:38, you wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > > It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but
> > > > I'm not convinced this is the most intuitive name it could
> > > > be.
> > > >
> > > > getText is another option though that would be very prone to
> > > > typos. Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
> > >
> > > These approaches can lead to confusion...
> > > Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
> > > icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
> >
> > Good idea. Don't know anything about c++ namespaces yet myself.
> > anyone?
>
> file:/home/jerry/TICPP/V1/Frames-expanded-TOC.html
Opps! SHould be:
http://celestrion.totalaccess.net/docs/eckel/tic1/html/
> And do a find on 'namespace' in the left panel. The concept is as
> easy as falling off a log, and eliminates a lot of possible
> problems with name collisions.
> JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 08:16:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:16:48 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
Message-ID: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
Hey guys,
Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
"/Introduction"
or
"/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
warring schemes to make you fall:
(NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
My righteous right hand.'
11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
shall perish.
12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
thing.
13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
'Fear not, I will help you.'
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 11:06:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:06:36 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201261219.FAA18287@www.crosswire.org>
Hi Troy,
tried it. I get this:
joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # mkdir testmodul
joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # ./genbooktest testmodul/mybook
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Segmentation fault
Using "dir" I see these two new files in /work/devel/cvs/sword/tests:
-rw------- 1 root root 15 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.dat
-rw------- 1 root root 4 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.idx
Maybe this helps you more than my previous report,
Joachim
> Hey guys,
> Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
>
> "/Introduction"
>
> or
>
> "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
>
>
> Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
>
> In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> warring schemes to make you fall:
>
>
> (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> My righteous right hand.'
> 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> shall perish.
> 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> thing.
> 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> 'Fear not, I will help you.'
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 13:39:28 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:39:28 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Olb2Sword
Message-ID: <200201261345.GAA18646@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
Does somebody know where the old2sword utilitie is? Or are there better tools
now?
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 14:02:40 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:02:40 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <200201261219.FAA18287@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org> <200201261219.FAA18287@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201261408.HAA18893@www.crosswire.org>
got it, checking in now (the name testmodul/mybook was being deleted before
being used to create the new indexes)
Thanks,
Daniel
On Saturday 26 Jan 2002 11:06 am, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> Hi Troy,
> tried it. I get this:
>
> joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # mkdir testmodul
> joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # ./genbooktest testmodul/mybook
> Error: 2: No such file or directory
> Error: 2: No such file or directory
> Error: 2: No such file or directory
> Segmentation fault
>
> Using "dir" I see these two new files in /work/devel/cvs/sword/tests:
>
> -rw------- 1 root root 15 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.dat
> -rw------- 1 root root 4 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.idx
>
> Maybe this helps you more than my previous report,
>
> Joachim
>
> > Hey guys,
> > Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> > behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
> >
> > "/Introduction"
> >
> > or
> >
> > "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
> >
> >
> > Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
> >
> > In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> > of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> > Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> > through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> > warring schemes to make you fall:
> >
> >
> > (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> > And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> > servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> > 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> > God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> > My righteous right hand.'
> > 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> > and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> > shall perish.
> > 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> > you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> > thing.
> > 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> > 'Fear not, I will help you.'
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 16:28:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 26 Jan 2002 11:28:23 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1012062505.1927.8.camel@office>
Troy,
Don't know if it's me or the GBS stuff.
this all seems to be working ok:
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > p
MyBook/
Introduction/
Chapter 1/
==> 1.1 What's this?/
1.2 Good info!/
Chapter 2/
Chapter 3/
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
But when I add text it adds it ok but when I try 'v - view entry text'
It always displays the first entry.
[MyBook/Introduction] > v
This is the introduction to MyBook.
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > v
This is the introduction to MyBook.
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
Have I missed something?
On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 03:16, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
>
> "/Introduction"
>
> or
>
> "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
>
>
> Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
>
> In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> warring schemes to make you fall:
>
>
> (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> My righteous right hand.'
> 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> shall perish.
> 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> thing.
> 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> 'Fear not, I will help you.'
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:33:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:33:24 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Olb2Sword
In-Reply-To: <200201261345.GAA18646@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000401c1a6ca$5e049dd0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
> Does somebody know where the old2sword utilitie is? Or are
> there better tools
> now?
olb2sword is exclusively for converting DOS OLB modules. I don't
believe there's any need for it any more.
For converting Windows OLB modules, use prn2sword. For everything else,
use vpl2mod or script addvs.
olb2sword and prn2sword should be on the alpha page.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 23:22:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:22:38 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org> <1012062505.1927.8.camel@office>
Message-ID: <3C533A3E.BBBE370C@crosswire.org>
Terry,
Thanks for reporting this. I actually never tried changing the root
node name. This seems to cause troubles. Actually, I'm not sure if we
want to let there be a root node authored information. If you set the
root name back to nothing (just hit enter for the name input prompt), it
seems to make things work again. Tell me what you think about root.
-Troy.
Terry Biggs wrote:
>
> Troy,
>
> Don't know if it's me or the GBS stuff.
> this all seems to be working ok:
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > p
> MyBook/
> Introduction/
> Chapter 1/
> ==> 1.1 What's this?/
> 1.2 Good info!/
> Chapter 2/
> Chapter 3/
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
>
> But when I add text it adds it ok but when I try 'v - view entry text'
> It always displays the first entry.
>
> [MyBook/Introduction] > v
>
> This is the introduction to MyBook.
>
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > v
>
> This is the introduction to MyBook.
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
>
> Have I missed something?
>
> On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 03:16, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> > behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
> >
> > "/Introduction"
> >
> > or
> >
> > "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
> >
> >
> > Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
> >
> > In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> > of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> > Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> > through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> > warring schemes to make you fall:
> >
> >
> > (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> > And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> > servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> > 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> > God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> > My righteous right hand.'
> > 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> > and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> > shall perish.
> > 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> > you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> > thing.
> > 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> > 'Fear not, I will help you.'
> >
> --
>
> Terry
>
> Rev 1:5
> "...Unto him that loved us, and washed
> us from our sins in his own blood."
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 23:51:04 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:51:04 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Trying to Compile Diatheke on RH 6.2... again.
Message-ID:
Hi everyone,
Well, after giving up several months ago, I decided to try building
Diatheke and Sword as a *user* in RedHat 6.2. After spending a half hour or
so deleting different object files in the src directory, I finally got a
finished sword.a installed in ~/sword/lib (at least I think it's finished).
Anyway, so I finished that, but now I'm back to having problems compiling
diatheke.
When I go into diatheke's directory, and type make, it chugs along for a
few moments, and then says:
----------------
gcc -L../../../lib/ -o diatheke diatheke.o corediatheke.o -lsword
-lstdc++ -lz
corediatheke.o: In function `doquery(int, char, char, char, char const *,
char const *, char const *)':
corediatheke.o(.text+0x2303): undefined reference to
`UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
corediatheke.o(.text+0x29b7): undefined reference to
`UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
-----------------
Any ideas what I need to do?
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:31:21 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:31:21 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Trying to Compile Diatheke on RH 6.2... again.
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <200201270037.RAA27330@www.crosswire.org>
you need to add a line to src/modules/filters/Makefile
cpp += unicodertf.cpp
This was missing in sword 1.5.2 so I assume that's what you are using
hth,
Daniel
On Saturday 26 Jan 2002 11:51 pm, you wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Well, after giving up several months ago, I decided to try building
> Diatheke and Sword as a *user* in RedHat 6.2. After spending a half hour or
> so deleting different object files in the src directory, I finally got a
> finished sword.a installed in ~/sword/lib (at least I think it's finished).
> Anyway, so I finished that, but now I'm back to having problems compiling
> diatheke.
> When I go into diatheke's directory, and type make, it chugs along for a
> few moments, and then says:
>
> ----------------
> gcc -L../../../lib/ -o diatheke diatheke.o corediatheke.o -lsword
> -lstdc++ -lz
> corediatheke.o: In function `doquery(int, char, char, char, char const *,
> char const *, char const *)':
> corediatheke.o(.text+0x2303): undefined reference to
> `UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
> corediatheke.o(.text+0x29b7): undefined reference to
> `UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
> -----------------
>
> Any ideas what I need to do?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:45:25 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:45:25 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Trying to Compile Diatheke on RH 6.2... again.
In-Reply-To: <200201270037.RAA27330@www.crosswire.org>
References: <200201270037.RAA27330@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID:
Hi Daniel,
> you need to add a line to src/modules/filters/Makefile
>
> cpp += unicodertf.cpp
>
> This was missing in sword 1.5.2 so I assume that's what you are using
Thanks a ton! That does the trick. :-) Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you!
-Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:47:49 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 26 Jan 2002 19:47:49 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <3C533A3E.BBBE370C@crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
<1012062505.1927.8.camel@office> <3C533A3E.BBBE370C@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1012092471.32028.4.camel@office>
On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 18:22, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Terry,
> Thanks for reporting this. I actually never tried changing the root
> node name. This seems to cause troubles. Actually, I'm not sure if we
> want to let there be a root node authored information. If you set the
> root name back to nothing (just hit enter for the name input prompt), it
> seems to make things work again. Tell me what you think about root.
>
> -Troy.
>
>
that did it. It works now.
There is no need to add information to the root node that I can think of
right now. Who knows about tomorrow.
Thanks Troy and GBS is exciting.
>
>
> Terry Biggs wrote:
> >
> > Troy,
> >
> > Don't know if it's me or the GBS stuff.
> > this all seems to be working ok:
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > p
> > MyBook/
> > Introduction/
> > Chapter 1/
> > ==> 1.1 What's this?/
> > 1.2 Good info!/
> > Chapter 2/
> > Chapter 3/
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
> >
> > But when I add text it adds it ok but when I try 'v - view entry text'
> > It always displays the first entry.
> >
> > [MyBook/Introduction] > v
> >
> > This is the introduction to MyBook.
> >
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > v
> >
> > This is the introduction to MyBook.
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
> >
> > Have I missed something?
> >
> > On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 03:16, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > > Hey guys,
> > > Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> > > behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
> > >
> > > "/Introduction"
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
> > >
> > > In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> > > of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> > > Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> > > through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> > > warring schemes to make you fall:
> > >
> > >
> > > (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> > > And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> > > servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> > > 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> > > God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> > > My righteous right hand.'
> > > 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> > > and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> > > shall perish.
> > > 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> > > you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> > > thing.
> > > 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> > > 'Fear not, I will help you.'
> > >
> > --
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > Rev 1:5
> > "...Unto him that loved us, and washed
> > us from our sins in his own blood."
> >
> >
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 01:23:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:23:18 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
Message-ID:
Uh, well, now I seem to have Diatheke going, but I'm stumped as how to get it
to work properly. As I noted I'm trying to get this working as a user... is
there anyway to make it look in ~/sword/share for modules and mods.d without
having /etc/sword.conf (since I don't have write access to /etc)?
I've been playing around with the environmental variable "SWORD_PATH," but
that doesn't seem to help...
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 01:49:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:49:36 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
I think I got it... I just went mods.conf rather than using mods.d.
-Tim
On Saturday 26 January 2002 07:23 pm, you wrote:
> Uh, well, now I seem to have Diatheke going, but I'm stumped as how to get
> it to work properly. As I noted I'm trying to get this working as a user...
> is there anyway to make it look in ~/sword/share for modules and mods.d
> without having /etc/sword.conf (since I don't have write access to /etc)?
>
> I've been playing around with the environmental variable "SWORD_PATH," but
> that doesn't seem to help...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 02:19:10 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:19:10 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Well, I feel rather foolish replying to my self again, but here we go:
I setup diatheke, and it seems to be able to find the ASV... but... I can't
seem to get verses to come up right. For instance, if I type:
/home/uninet/sword/bin/diatheke -l en -m 50 -f thml -b ASV -k "Gen 1:1"
(i.e. the command passed from Diatheke/CGI), I get this as the output:
Genesis 1:1:
Any ideas? :-)
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 12:20:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:20:38 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Olb2Sword
In-Reply-To: <000401c1a6ca$5e049dd0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
References: <000401c1a6ca$5e049dd0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <200201271227.FAA00611@www.crosswire.org>
Hi Chris!
Thank you for your answer!
Could you please send me the URL of the alpha page to my private eMail
adress? Otherwise the URL for the keys would be in the eMail archives. Or are
the keys not there any longer?
> > Does somebody know where the old2sword utilitie is? Or are
> > there better tools
> > now?
>
> olb2sword is exclusively for converting DOS OLB modules. I don't
> believe there's any need for it any more.
>
> For converting Windows OLB modules, use prn2sword. For everything else,
> use vpl2mod or script addvs.
>
> olb2sword and prn2sword should be on the alpha page.
Thank you!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 16:54:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:54:43 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
References:
Message-ID: <3C5430D3.B8066AE4@crosswire.org>
Timothy,
Still seems to be a path issue.
The API looks for its module configuration in the following sequence:
./mods.[conf|d]
$SWORD_PATH/mods.[conf|d]
$HOME/.sword/mods.[conf|d]
or finally from information found in a system-wide configuration
file
/etc/sword.conf in the format:
[Install]
DataPath=/where/your/datafiles/are/installed
then the API will look for ${DataPath}/mods.[conf|d]
hope this helps. PS. The DataPath in the .conf points to a path
RELATIVE to where the library finds as it's base directory for modules.
Hope this helps. Let me know.
-Troy.
"Timothy R. Butler" wrote:
>
> Well, I feel rather foolish replying to my self again, but here we go:
>
> I setup diatheke, and it seems to be able to find the ASV... but... I can't
> seem to get verses to come up right. For instance, if I type:
>
> /home/uninet/sword/bin/diatheke -l en -m 50 -f thml -b ASV -k "Gen 1:1"
>
> (i.e. the command passed from Diatheke/CGI), I get this as the output:
>
> Genesis 1:1:
>
> Any ideas? :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 21:44:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Trotz)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:44:14 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Missing text in Wesley Module
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I was using Sword for my devotions this morning when I noticed that =
there is
missing text in John Wesley's Notes. Isaiah 22:13 starts like this:
Let us,
Thats it nothing else, not a big deal but I though I should report it
anyway.
In Christ,
David Trotz
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morning=20
when I noticed that there is
missing text in John Wesley's Notes. =
Isaiah=20
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Let us,
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but I though=20
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anyway.
In Christ,
David Trotz
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> >
> > Any ideas? :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 28 10:15:52 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:15:52 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] BUG: VerseKey::setLocale doesn't work properly
Message-ID: <200201281156.EAA07655@www.crosswire.org>
Send this message some days ago, but nobody replied ...
Joachim
---------------------
Hi!
While working on BibleTime's verse parsing I noticed some bad behaviour of
VerseKey::setLocale.
Have a look at this piece of code:
VerseKey bla;
bla = "James 1:19";
bla.setLocale("de");
cout << bla << endl;
bla = "Johannes 1:1";
cout << bla << endl;
The output of this is:
Jakobus 1:19
Offenbarung 22:21
The first one (Jakobus 1:1, which is James 1:19 in english) is correct. But
if I equate the VerseKey object after changing the locale with a german book
name (Johannes 1:1, which is John 1:1 in english) is returns all the time
Revelation 22:21.
Since it returns all the time the last verse Revelation after chaning the
locale I think something's wrong here.
Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?
Thank you very much for your support!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 1 09:59:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leo en Cobie)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:59:19 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] newsgroup
Message-ID: <007c01c192aa$fafa7c60$9600000a@oemcomputer>
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A happy new year to all of you.
Can someone tell me where the newsgroup is and the name of it?
Tnx.
Leo
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 2 09:26:07 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 01:26:07 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] newsgroup
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The newsgroup is at
news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside and can be accessed using any
NNTP news reader (MS Outlook Express, Netscape Communicator, tin, etc.).
However, this newsgroup is just for discussions not related to
development.
sword-devel@crosswire.org is still the forum for development related
discussion. Most of us have just been busy over the last couple weeks
with the holidays.
But don't worry because Troy assures me he's almost finished with
general book support. Okay maybe not quite. ;)
--Chris
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Subject: [sword-devel] newsgroup
A happy new year to all of you.
Can someone tell me where the newsgroup is and the name of it?
Tnx.
Leo
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Communicator,=20
tin, etc.). However, this newsgroup is just for discussions not =
related to=20
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over the=20
last couple weeks with the holidays.
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--Chris
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 2 14:47:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:47:33 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Why I think there should be a Sword 1.5.4
In-Reply-To: <200112231718.KAA09419@www.crosswire.org>
References: <000801c18b4a$38f90850$0300000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <3C331D85.22508.1116BAA@localhost>
I'd agree with Martin. Any new features should go in 1.5.4 unless there is any
particualr reason Are there any important bugs or anything that need worked on
before 1.5.3 can be released? or is it ready at least for a 'beta' release for a few
weeks before a final release? (time to check for bugs and prepare the frontends for
1.5.3).
Come to think of it, the new version of Debian is going into freeze very soon (hopefully
< 2 months, possibly 1 month). Whatever versions of sword/gnomesword/bibletime are
released at that point will be what goes into the release. Only bug fixes rather than
new version will be accepted.
With that in mind, let me know if there is anything I can do to speed up 1.5.3 being
ready.
Daniel
On 23 Dec 2001 at 18:14, Martin Gruner sent forth the message:
> > I get the impression that our users and front end authors would
> > appreciate a 1.5.3 release to be sooner rather than later, in which case
> > I think we ought to plan on a 1.5.4 release.
>
> This is correct. We'd appreciate smaller and more frequent releases, which
> could be done by implementing some of the features below and making a smaller
> release (.4, .5 etc.). 1.5.3 could be released right now (from a
> feature-point of view).
> Things I leave uncommented should imho go into 1.5.4:
>
> > 1) i18n
> > 2) general book support
>
> Should probably wait to 1.5.5 or later, too big a change. Requires a lot of
> work in the frontends.
>
> > 3) expanded ciphering support
> > 4) apocrypha support
>
> Probably it would be better not to go 2 steps, but handle this with the new
> versification scheme handling, which would be much more flexible? It will
> require changes in the frontends anyway...
> So probably wait until 1.5.6 and be combined with versification.
>
> > 5) UTF-8 regex support
> > 6) bookmark interface
>
> This is not as simple as you might think. To make them shareable you must
> think about i18n() here too. You need to think about the versification stuff.
> And finally it might be good to have the data in XML to make it useful for
> other ppl too.
> So imo this could wait a bit. Probably until 1.7.x
>
> > 7) swtext++
> > 8) search on (currently) stripped items
> >
> > Currently, Strong's numbers, morph tags, etc. are stripped out for
> > searches. There are of course circumstances where a person would
> > explicitly want to search for a given morph tag or Strong's number, so
> > we should make sure a facility for this exists.
>
> YES! It should be possible to search in each layer of text (base, stongs,
> morph, etc.) independently. This is not likely to be possible with the
> current approach, and might require a thorough change in the api, which would
> be good, but maybe too big a task for now. And while doing this, things like
> making the searches faster (realtime?, indexing) should be considered too. So
> this probably should wait too. Maybe 1.7.x.
>
> Martin
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 3 06:00:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Trotz)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:00:14 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Compile error :(
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I can't seem to ba able to compile the latest sword cvs. I get the =
following errors using C++ Builder 5
[C++ Warning] maketree.c(28): W8058 Cannot create pre-compiled header: =
write failed
[C++ Error] maketree.c(30): E2040 Declaration terminated incorrectly
[C++ Error] maketree.c(35): E2188 Expression syntax
[C++ Error] maketree.c(36): E2188 Expression syntax
In Christ,
David Trotz
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 3 18:00:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:00:43 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword's cash value :)
Message-ID: <200201032147.OAA24289@www.crosswire.org>
I found a small program called "sloccount".
It estimates the value of a program using the number of lines of code.
Here's the output for Sword :
-------------
Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
cpp: 46447 (73.96%)
ansic: 13318 (21.21%)
tcl: 1602 (2.55%)
sh: 792 (1.26%)
perl: 547 (0.87%)
sed: 93 (0.15%)
Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 62,799
Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 15.45 (185.38)
(Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))
Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 1.52 (18.19)
(Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))
Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 10.19
Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 2,086,854
(average salary = $56,286/year, overhead = 2.40).
Please credit this data as "generated using 'SLOCCount' by David A. Wheeler."
-------------
Many many thanks to Troy, he did the major part of Sword! Troy spent over 2
million dollars for Sword. I hope we'll get another two million...
;)
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 3 23:18:25 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:18:25 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword's cash value :)
References: <200201032147.OAA24289@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C34E6C1.3FA60009@crosswire.org>
NO! Many people have contributed over the years! And I'm sure if you
run BibleTime thru this, you'll get higher numbers!
Joachim Ansorg wrote:
>
> I found a small program called "sloccount".
> It estimates the value of a program using the number of lines of code.
> Here's the output for Sword :
>
> -------------
> Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
> cpp: 46447 (73.96%)
> ansic: 13318 (21.21%)
> tcl: 1602 (2.55%)
> sh: 792 (1.26%)
> perl: 547 (0.87%)
> sed: 93 (0.15%)
>
> Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 62,799
> Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 15.45 (185.38)
> (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))
> Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 1.52 (18.19)
> (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))
> Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 10.19
> Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 2,086,854
> (average salary = $56,286/year, overhead = 2.40).
> Please credit this data as "generated using 'SLOCCount' by David A. Wheeler."
> -------------
>
> Many many thanks to Troy, he did the major part of Sword! Troy spent over 2
> million dollars for Sword. I hope we'll get another two million...
> ;)
>
> Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 3 23:44:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:44:16 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] zLD / treekey
Message-ID: <3C34ECD0.98FE01D5@crosswire.org>
OK, Chris made a deal with me. He's gonna try / test / debug the zLD
stuff and I'm gonna work on general book support. :)
To start, I'm gonna work on a new SWKey decendent: TreeKey. This will
be useful in both gbs and the common bookmark format for which everyone
is asking.
I'm gonna probably model it after the W3C DOM Node interface at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Core/core.html#ID-1950641247
To start, it will include the basics (in addition to the SWKey base
methods):
// position methods
parent();
firstChild();
previousSibling();
nextSibling();
// write methods
insertBefore();
remove();
append();
appendChild();
boolean hasChildNodes();
setUserData(in void *data);
void *getUserData();
Any comments?
-Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 01:43:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:43:32 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Fwd: Re: Want to Try Testing
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103193617.00a88090@pop3.norton.antivirus>
I have verified that nasb95.conf and niv.conf contain the correct unlock
code. The value for DataPath appears to be wrong, however. I downloaded
the Windows versions of the locked files from the Tester section. DataPath
is pointing to ./modules/texts/rawtext/nasb95 and
./modules/texts/rawtext/niv, respectively. The file structure I actually
have is ./modules/texts/ztext/. . . . .
>Sender: scribe@www.crosswire.org
>Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:14:29 -0700
>From: "Troy A. Griffitts"
>Organization: CrossWire Bible Society
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.13 i686)
>X-Accept-Language: en, ja
>To: "Lloyd N. Landers, Jr."
>Subject: Re: Want to Try Testing
>
> > OK. I tried it and it seemed to work fine, but then when I launched Sword,
> > only 2 of the 3 locked Bible versions showed up in the list (NASB95 & NIV
> > did, but NKJV did not) and, except for showing the heading for Chapter 1,
> > the Bible window was blank (I tried several books in each).
>
>If there is any (even the wrong) unlock code, the module will show up.
>If the correct unlock code is there, you will see the readable text,
>otherwise garbled text.
>
>What editor did you use?
>Could you look again in the .conf file for DataPath=, look in this
>directory and be sure there is really data.
>
>
> > FYI. I saved the lock codes to a file and did a cut and paste to CipherKey
> > in the appropriate ".conf" so that I wouldn't have to worry about mistyping
> > the code.
>
>good.
>
>
> > Just for kicks, I downloaded NLT and went through the above, but even
> > though I got the message that the installation was successful, there was no
> > conf file in the mods.d directory.
>
> From were are you downloading these?
>
>
> > Boy, do I feel like a rookie!
>
>NO! You are a grade A tester! This is perfect.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 04:19:57 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Matt Pennock)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 0:19:57 EDT
Subject: [sword-devel] graphics
Message-ID: <101011800301@mail1.emumail.net>
i tried to send an email with attachments, but apparently that didn't work...
Here is were I'll be storing files: http://members.truepath.com/matt1260/sword/
I can do a splash graphic and perhaps other things like
buttons,text,skins, etc.
Also, i'm curious if it will soon be possible to adjust the font settings
completely for each window? Doesn't windows have a premade DLL or something?
Later,
Matt
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 04:51:39 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:51:39 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Fwd: Re: Want to Try Testing
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103193617.00a88090@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <002101c194db$7fafc960$0600000a@DIASPORA>
> I have verified that nasb95.conf and niv.conf contain the
> correct unlock
> code. The value for DataPath appears to be wrong, however.
> I downloaded
> the Windows versions of the locked files from the Tester
> section. DataPath
> is pointing to ./modules/texts/rawtext/nasb95 and
> ./modules/texts/rawtext/niv, respectively. The file
> structure I actually
> have is ./modules/texts/ztext/. . . . .
The files should be located under the rawtext directory. It doesn't
really matter, provided that the actual location and the location
specified by the .conf file are the same. All the locked modules are
RawText.
You might check that you actually have files in your module directory.
If you don't, redownload them using InstallMgr (or FTP). The locked
texts were all moved to the beta area. What is visible in the public
area are just empty files.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 10:37:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Martin Gruner)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:37:17 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] zLD / treekey
In-Reply-To: <3C34ECD0.98FE01D5@crosswire.org>
References: <3C34ECD0.98FE01D5@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201041041.DAA28530@www.crosswire.org>
> OK, Chris made a deal with me. He's gonna try / test / debug the zLD
> stuff and I'm gonna work on general book support. :)
>
> To start, I'm gonna work on a new SWKey decendent: TreeKey. This will
> be useful in both gbs and the common bookmark format for which everyone
> is asking.
> Any comments?
Yeah Troy, go right ahead! =)
But I would be happy if 1.5.3 could be released before GBS comes. We probably
won't be able to include this in the upcoming BT release. Why not release
1.5.3 after the zLD debugging is done and then continue with 1.5.4 stuff?
Thanks fo considering.
I would like to wish all people who are and were involved with sword a really
happy and blessed new year. May God use this project to spread his word to
the "ends of the earth"!
The last half year was so much more productive than before, and I hope this
will continue.
Thanks to all of you.
Martin
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 12:36:01 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:36:01 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] zLD / treekey
In-Reply-To: <200201041041.DAA28530@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C34ECD0.98FE01D5@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C35A1B1.20543.AE59BF4@localhost>
On 4 Jan 2002 at 11:37, Martin Gruner sent forth the message:
> > OK, Chris made a deal with me. He's gonna try / test / debug the zLD
> > stuff and I'm gonna work on general book support. :)
:)
> > To start, I'm gonna work on a new SWKey decendent: TreeKey. This will
> > be useful in both gbs and the common bookmark format for which everyone
> > is asking.
>
> > Any comments?
>
> Yeah Troy, go right ahead! =)
agreed :)
> But I would be happy if 1.5.3 could be released before GBS comes. We probably
> won't be able to include this in the upcoming BT release. Why not release
> 1.5.3 after the zLD debugging is done and then continue with 1.5.4 stuff?
>
> Thanks for considering.
possibly you could hold the work locally until 1.5.3 is released?
otoh if it isn't going to be used by anything (i.e. anywhere within existing classes) til after 1.5.3
there should be no disadvantage in having it incomplete in 1.5.3?
If the windows frontend needs the GBS then it could hold off until 1.5.4 which could just
contain GBS as an essential feature addition and anything else as a bonus. Hopefully that
shouldn't be too long anyway. (imho more frequent releases could help keeping up the momentum
that seems to be building at the moment)
> I would like to wish all people who are and were involved with sword a really
> happy and blessed new year. May God use this project to spread his word to
> the "ends of the earth"!
> The last half year was so much more productive than before, and I hope this
> will continue.
> Thanks to all of you.
>
> Martin
Hear hear,
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 14:06:50 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:06:50 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] graphics
In-Reply-To: <101011800301@mail1.emumail.net>
Message-ID: <002801c19529$0e43b2c0$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
very cool. I like the first banner there.
As soon as 1.5.3 is released, I will put that banner on a high traffic site
that I have.
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Matt Pennock
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:20 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] graphics
>
>
> i tried to send an email with attachments, but apparently that
> didn't work...
> Here is were I'll be storing files:
> http://members.truepath.com/matt1260/sword/
>
> I can do a splash graphic and perhaps other things like
> buttons,text,skins, etc.
>
> Also, i'm curious if it will soon be possible to adjust the font settings
> completely for each window? Doesn't windows have a premade DLL or
> something?
>
> Later,
> Matt
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 16:55:03 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:55:03 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Fwd: Re: Want to Try Testing
In-Reply-To: <002101c194db$7fafc960$0600000a@DIASPORA>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103193617.00a88090@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020104105110.00a925c8@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Hi, Chris.
I think you're missing my point. I did not set up the directory structure;
it was set up when I installed the program. There is no "rawtext"
directory set up, only a "ztext."
I went ahead and tried installing the locked Bibles using InstallMgr, but
got exactly the same results. It appears to complete successfully, but
when I look, there is no "rawtext" directory, which is what the DataPath in
the .conf file points to.
Suggestions???
At 08:51 PM 1/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>
> > I have verified that nasb95.conf and niv.conf contain the
> > correct unlock
> > code. The value for DataPath appears to be wrong, however.
> > I downloaded
> > the Windows versions of the locked files from the Tester
> > section. DataPath
> > is pointing to ./modules/texts/rawtext/nasb95 and
> > ./modules/texts/rawtext/niv, respectively. The file
> > structure I actually
> > have is ./modules/texts/ztext/. . . . .
>
>The files should be located under the rawtext directory. It doesn't
>really matter, provided that the actual location and the location
>specified by the .conf file are the same. All the locked modules are
>RawText.
>
>You might check that you actually have files in your module directory.
>If you don't, redownload them using InstallMgr (or FTP). The locked
>texts were all moved to the beta area. What is visible in the public
>area are just empty files.
>
>--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 17:09:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (James Stauffer)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:09:36 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword's cash value :)
References: <200201032147.OAA24289@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C35E1D0.90103@baldwin-telecom.net>
Where can I get that program?
Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> I found a small program called "sloccount".
> It estimates the value of a program using the number of lines of code.
> Here's the output for Sword :
>
> -------------
> Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
> cpp: 46447 (73.96%)
> ansic: 13318 (21.21%)
> tcl: 1602 (2.55%)
> sh: 792 (1.26%)
> perl: 547 (0.87%)
> sed: 93 (0.15%)
>
>
> Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 62,799
> Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 15.45 (185.38)
> (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))
> Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 1.52 (18.19)
> (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))
> Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 10.19
> Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 2,086,854
> (average salary = $56,286/year, overhead = 2.40).
> Please credit this data as "generated using 'SLOCCount' by David A. Wheeler."
> -------------
>
> Many many thanks to Troy, he did the major part of Sword! Troy spent over 2
> million dollars for Sword. I hope we'll get another two million...
> ;)
>
>
> Joachim
>
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 18:12:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:12:43 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword's cash value :)
In-Reply-To: <3C35E1D0.90103@baldwin-telecom.net>
References: <200201032147.OAA24289@www.crosswire.org> <3C35E1D0.90103@baldwin-telecom.net>
Message-ID: <200201041818.LAA31638@www.crosswire.org>
http://www.dwheeler.com/sloccount/
Joachim
> Where can I get that program?
>
> Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> > I found a small program called "sloccount".
> > It estimates the value of a program using the number of lines of code.
> > Here's the output for Sword :
> >
> > -------------
> > Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
> > cpp: 46447 (73.96%)
> > ansic: 13318 (21.21%)
> > tcl: 1602 (2.55%)
> > sh: 792 (1.26%)
> > perl: 547 (0.87%)
> > sed: 93 (0.15%)
> >
> >
> > Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 62,799
> > Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 15.45
> > (185.38) (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))
> > Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 1.52 (18.19)
> > (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))
> > Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 10.19
> > Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 2,086,854
> > (average salary = $56,286/year, overhead = 2.40).
> > Please credit this data as "generated using 'SLOCCount' by David A.
> > Wheeler." -------------
> >
> > Many many thanks to Troy, he did the major part of Sword! Troy spent over
> > 2 million dollars for Sword. I hope we'll get another two million... ;)
> >
> >
> > Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 21:56:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joe Walker)
Date: 04 Jan 2002 21:56:35 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword's cash value :)
In-Reply-To: <200201041818.LAA31638@www.crosswire.org>
References: <200201032147.OAA24289@www.crosswire.org>
<3C35E1D0.90103@baldwin-telecom.net>
<200201041818.LAA31638@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1010181406.2935.8.camel@tameion.eireneh.com>
It says 5 of me spent a year on ProjectB! Neither of me remembers being
cloned that many times!
I guess it shows the difference between motivations.
Many commercial developers write code because they are at work, and they
are at work because they get paid to go to work.
Open source developers write code because they love writing code.
It is easy to see from that who will write the best code.
Joe.
On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 18:12, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> http://www.dwheeler.com/sloccount/
>
> Joachim
>
> > Where can I get that program?
> >
> > Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> > > I found a small program called "sloccount".
> > > It estimates the value of a program using the number of lines of code.
> > > Here's the output for Sword :
> > >
> > > -------------
> > > Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
> > > cpp: 46447 (73.96%)
> > > ansic: 13318 (21.21%)
> > > tcl: 1602 (2.55%)
> > > sh: 792 (1.26%)
> > > perl: 547 (0.87%)
> > > sed: 93 (0.15%)
> > >
> > >
> > > Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 62,799
> > > Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 15.45
> > > (185.38) (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))
> > > Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 1.52 (18.19)
> > > (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))
> > > Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 10.19
> > > Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 2,086,854
> > > (average salary = $56,286/year, overhead = 2.40).
> > > Please credit this data as "generated using 'SLOCCount' by David A.
> > > Wheeler." -------------
> > >
> > > Many many thanks to Troy, he did the major part of Sword! Troy spent over
> > > 2 million dollars for Sword. I hope we'll get another two million... ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 22:49:58 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:49:58 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword and BibleTime on FreeBSD
Message-ID: <200201042258.PAA09192@www.crosswire.org>
Hi all!
There's some work to include Sword and BibleTime on FreeBSD. Isn't this
really cool?
The last problem is that /etc/sword.conf is hardcoded in the sources of Sword
and BibleTime. As far as I understood it are config files of programs put
into /usr/local/etc/.
How do I make the config file location of sword.conf more general in the
Sword sources? Using Makefile.cfg or what?
I'm a bit clueless about this. Help is really appreciated!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 23:35:26 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:35:26 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword and BibleTime on FreeBSD
References: <200201042258.PAA09192@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C363C3E.9962917A@crosswire.org>
Joachim,
Thanks for looking into this. There is a new parameter in Makefile.cfg
now: globalconfdir defaulted to /etc, but can be changed to
/usr/local/etc
-Troy.
Joachim Ansorg wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> There's some work to include Sword and BibleTime on FreeBSD. Isn't this
> really cool?
>
> The last problem is that /etc/sword.conf is hardcoded in the sources of Sword
> and BibleTime. As far as I understood it are config files of programs put
> into /usr/local/etc/.
>
> How do I make the config file location of sword.conf more general in the
> Sword sources? Using Makefile.cfg or what?
>
> I'm a bit clueless about this. Help is really appreciated!
>
> Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 4 23:32:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel=20Glassey?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:32:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword and BibleTime on FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <200201042258.PAA09192@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <20020104233224.50266.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Joachim Ansorg wrote: > Hi all!
>
> There's some work to include Sword and BibleTime on
> FreeBSD. Isn't this
> really cool?
Yep :)
> The last problem is that /etc/sword.conf is
> hardcoded in the sources of Sword
> and BibleTime. As far as I understood it are config
> files of programs put
> into /usr/local/etc/.
>
> How do I make the config file location of sword.conf
> more general in the
> Sword sources? Using Makefile.cfg or what?
in src/mgr/swmgr.cpp SWMgr::findConfig method
there is a check for /etc/sword.conf
that could be replicated to look in /usr/local/etc
as well.
alternatively make that "/etc/sword.conf" into a
define and that could be selected in Makefile.cfg
um, I hope that's clear enough
> I'm a bit clueless about this. Help is really
> appreciated!
>
> Joachim
hth,
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 5 14:08:31 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 01:08:31 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Problems making SWORD module...
Message-ID: <3C3708DF.2070400@bitmead.com>
Hi all,
I'm working on this little project to make an NIV study sword module.
What I'm wondering is, there are commentary passages that
apply to a range of verses like...
Tit 2:11-14
.....
Tit 2:11
.....
Tit 2:12
....
Tit 2:13
...
Tit 2:14
Now if I add each of these comments with addvs, the 2:11-14 comment
gets obliterated by the 2:11 comment. How am I supposed to handle this???
I would have hoped that the 11-14 passage would be visible on all applicable
verses.
Also, to get it working I manually copied the directory and .conf file into
the places where they apparently go. But it's not clear to me how I package
the lot up into one file suitable for installing.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 5 19:18:10 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Geoffrey W Hastings)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:18:10 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Searching Strongs Numbers.
Message-ID: <20020105.111811.-447541.1.geoffreyhastings@juno.com>
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I have found that the Windows version on Win ME using SWORD 1.5.2
requires the Strong's numbers to be turned on to search for Strong's
numbers in the KJV. It will not find anything if the Strong's numbers are
not turned on.
The section below is from the help files on searching for Stong's
numbers. The Last sentence should say Options Menu instead of
Preferences Window.
Note: Searching for Strong's Numbers
To find the Greek word "agape" enter the Strong's number for agape, <26>,
in the Input Field. The angle brackets, <> mark the beginning and end of
a Strong's number, and are needed to limit the search from finding other
numbers. To search for Strong's numbers you need a module that has the
numbers in the text, such as the AV/KJV with Strong's numbers. Not all
Bible modules have the numbers. You may also need to toggle Strong's
Numbers on in the Preferences Window.
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will=20
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 6 16:52:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:52:05 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
Message-ID: <200201061657.JAA25118@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
After I got a new PC (Athlon 1.2GHz) the CVS of Sword won't build cleanly. At
the end I get a long list of unresolved references. I found out that Swords
makesystem doesn't call "ar" on some object files so they are not integrated
into the library. The missing object files are randomly "chosen" by the
Makefiles.
1.5.2 builds fine.
Does somebody know which parts were changed in CVS since 1.5.2? This would
really make things easier for me.
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 6 18:35:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Trotz)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:35:06 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Compile error :(
References: <000a01c1941b$ead48a70$0100007f@localhost>
Message-ID: <001401c196e0$dddc7d60$0100007f@localhost>
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I hate to be a bug... But I really was looking forward to working on =
sword this week and I couldn't. Can someone please fix the latest sword =
on the cvs, it still does not compile.
David
----- Original Message -----=20
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To: sword-devel@crosswire.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:00 PM
Subject: [sword-devel] Compile error :(
I can't seem to ba able to compile the latest sword cvs. I get the =
following errors using C++ Builder 5
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write failed
[C++ Error] maketree.c(30): E2040 Declaration terminated incorrectly
[C++ Error] maketree.c(35): E2188 Expression syntax
[C++ Error] maketree.c(36): E2188 Expression syntax
In Christ,
David Trotz
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David
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PM
Subject: [sword-devel] Compile =
error=20
:(
I can't seem to ba able to compile =
the latest=20
sword cvs. I get the following errors using C++ Builder 5
[C++ Warning] maketree.c(28): W8058 =
Cannot create=20
pre-compiled header: write failed
[C++ Error] maketree.c(30): E2040 =
Declaration terminated incorrectly
[C++ Error] maketree.c(35): =
E2188=20
Expression syntax
[C++ Error] maketree.c(36): E2188 Expression=20
syntax
In Christ,
David =
Trotz
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 6 19:01:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:01:13 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201061657.JAA25118@www.crosswire.org>
References: <200201061657.JAA25118@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201061901.g06J1D503142@jerrykreps.athome>
On Sunday 06 January 2002 10:52, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> Hi!
>
> After I got a new PC (Athlon 1.2GHz) the CVS of Sword won't build
> cleanly. At the end I get a long list of unresolved references. I
> found out that Swords makesystem doesn't call "ar" on some object
> files so they are not integrated into the library. The missing
> object files are randomly "chosen" by the Makefiles.
>
> 1.5.2 builds fine.
>
> Does somebody know which parts were changed in CVS since 1.5.2?
> This would really make things easier for me.
>
> Joachim
I have the same kind of box. I could'n't compile the CVS either
until Chris suggested that I go to several of the subdirectories and
do a manual 'make clean' in them. Then I could compile. But, the
libsword.a file is 19.3MB, not 1.6MB as the binary package installed.
Haven't figured out why, yet.
JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 6 19:34:52 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:34:52 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201061901.g06J1D503142@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <200201061657.JAA25118@www.crosswire.org> <200201061901.g06J1D503142@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <200201061940.MAA26000@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
> I have the same kind of box. I could'n't compile the CVS either
> until Chris suggested that I go to several of the subdirectories and
> do a manual 'make clean' in them. Then I could compile. But, the
> libsword.a file is 19.3MB, not 1.6MB as the binary package installed.
> Haven't figured out why, yet.
> JLK
I had to do the same. But since 1.5.2 compiles fine there has to be a problem
with the Makefiles.
My idea is that my box is too fast for the Makefiles. Don't laugh, with a
slower PC the same CVS compiled fine!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 6 21:01:51 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:01:51 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201061940.MAA26000@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <003701c196f5$5d72e7d0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
> > I have the same kind of box. I could'n't compile the CVS
> either until
> > Chris suggested that I go to several of the subdirectories and do a
> > manual 'make clean' in them. Then I could compile. But, the
> > libsword.a file is 19.3MB, not 1.6MB as the binary package
> installed.
> > Haven't figured out why, yet. JLK
>
> I had to do the same. But since 1.5.2 compiles fine there has
> to be a problem
> with the Makefiles.
>
> My idea is that my box is too fast for the Makefiles. Don't
> laugh, with a
> slower PC the same CVS compiled fine!
It acts like it's a threading issue. The problem is definitely more
prominent on faster machines. It also definitely occurs more frequently
on computers running RH 7.1/7.2 (as compared to 7.0) -- which might mean
our makefiles don't like some recent versions of make tools (ar
perhaps).
I don't think anyone really understands the problem, let alone the
solution. But I think we need to fix this for the 1.5.3 release.
Also, there are reports of the same build errors with 1.5.2 and the
makefiles have not changed very much since 1.5.2.
Anyone feel like tackling this problem?
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 6 22:53:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:53:23 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201061901.g06J1D503142@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <200201061657.JAA25118@www.crosswire.org> <200201061901.g06J1D503142@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <200201062253.g06MrN506720@jerrykreps.athome>
On Sunday 06 January 2002 13:01, Jerry Kreps wrote:
[snip]
> But, the libsword.a file is 19.3MB, not 1.6MB as the binary package
> installed. Haven't figured out why, yet.
> JLK
Doh!
It dawned on my that I had debug on in the Makefile.
Now libsword.a is only 2.4MB, but I had shared on.
In my best Rosana Rosana Dana: "never mind"
JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 7 03:14:20 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:14:20 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201061940.MAA26000@www.crosswire.org>
References: <200201061657.JAA25118@www.crosswire.org> <200201061901.g06J1D503142@jerrykreps.athome> <200201061940.MAA26000@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201070314.g073EK508339@jerrykreps.athome>
On Sunday 06 January 2002 13:34, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > I have the same kind of box. I could'n't compile the CVS either
> > until Chris suggested that I go to several of the subdirectories
> > and do a manual 'make clean' in them. Then I could compile.
> > But, the libsword.a file is 19.3MB, not 1.6MB as the binary
> > package installed. Haven't figured out why, yet.
> > JLK
>
> I had to do the same. But since 1.5.2 compiles fine there has to be
> a problem with the Makefiles.
>
> My idea is that my box is too fast for the Makefiles. Don't laugh,
> with a slower PC the same CVS compiled fine!
>
> Joachim
I turned off the debug flag, turned shared on, did a make clean in
all directorys and then redid 'make'. The compile proceeded nicely
and I ended up with libsword.a and libsword.so in the /libs directory.
I'll try it again and see if it is reproducible.
JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 7 11:00:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:00:15 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <003701c196f5$5d72e7d0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
References: <200201061940.MAA26000@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost>
On 6 Jan 2002 at 13:01, Chris Little sent forth the message:
>
> > > I have the same kind of box. I could'n't compile the CVS
> > either until
> > > Chris suggested that I go to several of the subdirectories and do a
> > > manual 'make clean' in them. Then I could compile. But, the
> > > libsword.a file is 19.3MB, not 1.6MB as the binary package
> > installed.
> > > Haven't figured out why, yet. JLK
> >
> > I had to do the same. But since 1.5.2 compiles fine there has
> > to be a problem
> > with the Makefiles.
> >
> > My idea is that my box is too fast for the Makefiles. Don't
> > laugh, with a
> > slower PC the same CVS compiled fine!
>
> It acts like it's a threading issue. The problem is definitely more
> prominent on faster machines. It also definitely occurs more frequently
> on computers running RH 7.1/7.2 (as compared to 7.0) -- which might mean
> our makefiles don't like some recent versions of make tools (ar
> perhaps).
>
> I don't think anyone really understands the problem, let alone the
> solution. But I think we need to fix this for the 1.5.3 release.
>
> Also, there are reports of the same build errors with 1.5.2 and the
> makefiles have not changed very much since 1.5.2.
>
> Anyone feel like tackling this problem?
Funnily enough I was just getting onto this as I was getting the same problem with building debian
packages since I upgraded my machine!.
My automake patch generates a single makefile so it won't have any of these problems. It's in
cvs/sword in my home directory on crosswire for those that can access it. It's ready to be
checked in to cvs as soon as someone gives the word and it doesn't interfere with the current build
system.
Since I need it for the debian packages anyway I'll backport it to 1.5.2 as well and post a patch
later.
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 7 14:00:46 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:00:46 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Compile error :(
In-Reply-To: <001401c196e0$dddc7d60$0100007f@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C39AA0E.25222.C9445A@localhost>
On 6 Jan 2002 at 10:35, David Trotz sent forth the message:
> I hate to be a bug... But I really was looking forward to working on
> sword this week and I couldn't. Can someone please fix the latest
> sword on the cvs, it still does not compile.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Trotz
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:00 PM
> Subject: [sword-devel] Compile error :(
>
>
> I can't seem to ba able to compile the latest sword cvs. I get the following errors using C++ Builder 5
>
> [C++ Warning] maketree.c(28): W8058 Cannot create pre-compiled header: write failed
Is your disk full or something? write failed shouldn't happen. I don't know anything about c++ builder errors, but
if that isn't it is there anything in the compiler docs that gives a clue?
> [C++ Error] maketree.c(30): E2040 Declaration terminated incorrectly
28:void maketree(uInt b, inflate_huft *t)
29:{
30: int i, e;
??? it doesn't seem to like this for some reason.
Try
int i;
int e;
> [C++ Error] maketree.c(35): E2188 Expression syntax
> [C++ Error] maketree.c(36): E2188 Expression syntax
35: e = t[i].exop;
36: if (e && (e & (16+64)) == 0) /* table pointer */
These will be because e is undefined.
> In Christ,
> David Trotz
Nothing has changed in this file (src/utilfuns/zlib/maketree.c) for months so it's likely to be something else. Are
there any unusual warnings before this happens?
Actually from the file:
/* WARNING: this file should *not* be used by applications. It is
part of the implementation of the compression library and is
subject to change. Applications should only use zlib.h.
*/
/* This program is included in the distribution for completeness.
You do not need to compile or run this program since inffixed.h
is already included in the distribution. To use this program
you need to compile zlib with BUILDFIXED defined and then compile
and link this program with the zlib library. Then the output of
this program can be piped to inffixed.h. */
try just deleting maketree.c from the build file. According to the above it shouldn't be needed?
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 7 17:24:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:24:06 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost>
References: <003701c196f5$5d72e7d0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <3C39D9B6.17787.1836CD8@localhost>
ok, I've now got the files up to date for current cvs. I'll start commiting the files that are
essential for building since they won't interfere with anything else. (configure.ac, empty NEWS
and AUTHORS, and many Makefile.am)
To build with this you will need automake 1.5 and autoconf 2.52 and libtool 1.4. The earlier
versions (that are with most linux distributions) will not work.
Run
aclocal;automake -a;autoheader;autoconf
to
generate files required for building
create a temporary build directory (optional, but stops the object files cluttering up your source
tree), say build
cd build
../configure
Notes:
--sysconfdir=DIR read-only single-machine data [PREFIX/etc]
is the configure option for specifying what the new globalconfdir variable will be
Other configure options should be self-explanatory
Things incomplete/missing:
no makefiles for apps directory yet
makefiles in tests and utilities incomplete, will finish and add that later
if diatheke wants to use the new system it will need modified
need to make instructions for when new files/directories are added
currently the automake generated makefiles will overwrite the original ones. Make sure you
backup the originals, say to Makefile.sw e.g. with this script
#!/bin/sh
cp Makefile Makefile.sw
cp tests/Makefile tests/Makefile.sw
cp utilities/Makefile utilities/Makefile.sw
This script will copy the files back so you can build the old way.
#!/bin/sh
cp Makefile.sw Makefile
cp tests/Makefile.sw tests/Makefile
cp utilities/Makefile.sw utilities/Makefile
Will this be ok?
Since most people won't have automake 1.5 etc I guess it will be best to put copies of the files
that they generate into cvs even though they are relatively large. Yes?
Let me know of any problems,
Daniel
On 7 Jan 2002 at 11:00, Daniel Glassey sent forth the message:
> On 6 Jan 2002 at 13:01, Chris Little sent forth the message:
>
> >
[stuff]
> > Anyone feel like tackling this problem?
>
> Funnily enough I was just getting onto this as I was getting the same problem with building debian
> packages since I upgraded my machine!.
> My automake patch generates a single makefile so it won't have any of these problems. It's in
> cvs/sword in my home directory on crosswire for those that can access it. It's ready to be
> checked in to cvs as soon as someone gives the word and it doesn't interfere with the current build
> system.
>
> Since I need it for the debian packages anyway I'll backport it to 1.5.2 as well and post a patch
> later.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 8 01:45:04 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 12:45:04 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Problems making SWORD module...
Message-ID: <3C3A4F20.9080008@bitmead.com>
Hi all,
I'm working on this little project to make an NIV study sword module.
What I'm wondering is, there are commentary passages that
apply to a range of verses like...
Tit 2:11-14
.....
Tit 2:11
.....
Tit 2:12
....
Tit 2:13
...
Tit 2:14
Now if I add each of these comments with addvs, the 2:11-14 comment
gets obliterated by the 2:11 comment. How am I supposed to handle this???
I would have hoped that the 11-14 passage would be visible on all applicable
verses.
Also, to get it working I manually copied the directory and .conf file into
the places where they apparently go. But it's not clear to me how I package
the lot up into one file suitable for installing.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 8 03:03:20 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:03:20 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Problems making SWORD module...
In-Reply-To: <3C3A4F20.9080008@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <003a01c197f1$076708b0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
> I'm working on this little project to make an NIV study sword
> module. What I'm wondering is, there are commentary passages
> that apply to a range of verses like... Tit 2:11-14 ..... Tit
> 2:11 ..... Tit 2:12 .... Tit 2:13 ... Tit 2:14
>
> Now if I add each of these comments with addvs, the 2:11-14
> comment gets obliterated by the 2:11 comment. How am I
> supposed to handle this??? I would have hoped that the 11-14
> passage would be visible on all applicable verses.
addvs doesn't handle this. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to
check if a verse already contains data, then add to it and create a new
entry if so. You would then want to clean out the excess entries, such
as by running mod2zmod on the module.
> Also, to get it working I manually copied the directory and
> .conf file into the places where they apparently go. But it's
> not clear to me how I package the lot up into one file
> suitable for installing.
I guess you could download one of the Windows .zips from CrossWire and
replace the data.zip enclosed in it with one that uses your module's
files & directory structure. We don't handle single file installers
because we have InstallMgr, which makes installation even easier.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 8 03:25:45 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 14:25:45 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Problems making SWORD module...
References: <003a01c197f1$076708b0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <3C3A66B9.7040707@bitmead.com>
Actually, I find the Sword commentary window to be very annoying in that
it only displays a verse at a time. Shouldn't it display a whole chapter
just like
with the bible module and highlight the current verse?
The thing is, if I have these commentaries that apply to several verses,
what do
I do? Add them to each verse they apply to? Or only to the first verse? Both
options are lame in their own way which is why I think it is right to
see a whole
chapter at once and make it more like the real thing.
>addvs doesn't handle this. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to
>check if a verse already contains data, then add to it and create a new
>entry if so.
>
This is pretty lame. What if someone implements the above scheme, at least
as an option? If I append the multi-verse commentary to every verse then
it would appear multiple times in the text (very lame). If I append it to
only the first verse then if I search for comments on a particular verse
I might miss it.
It seems to me that Sword should be understanding this concept so that it
can handle it intelligently.
>You would then want to clean out the excess entries, such
>as by running mod2zmod on the module.
>
I don't know what this means.
>I guess you could download one of the Windows .zips from CrossWire and
>replace the data.zip enclosed in it with one that uses your module's
>files & directory structure. We don't handle single file installers
>because we have InstallMgr, which makes installation even easier.
>
Let me put it this way... In what form do you accept the data from
submitters?
I would have thought it pretty convenient that there would be some form
that these things can be moved around as one file - an extreme example -
maybe people in the 3rd world don't have internet connections and need to
get modules from friends. And maybe they don't use Windows either.
Shouldn't there be a platform independant, one-file distribution format?
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 8 10:11:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 02:11:16 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Problems making SWORD module...
In-Reply-To: <3C3A66B9.7040707@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <000401c1982c$cf465300$0f01a8c0@didymus>
> Actually, I find the Sword commentary window to be very
> annoying in that it only displays a verse at a time.
> Shouldn't it display a whole chapter
> just like
> with the bible module and highlight the current verse?
Maybe we'll give users the options of toggling between those two modes
in BibleCS 2.0
> The thing is, if I have these commentaries that apply to
> several verses,
> what do
> I do? Add them to each verse they apply to? Or only to the
> first verse? Both options are lame in their own way which is
> why I think it is right to
> see a whole
> chapter at once and make it more like the real thing.
My feeling is that when you query a particular verse reference, it
should return all the text relating to that entry. So if you have a
section entry for Gen 1:1-5 and a individual verse entries for each of
Gen 1:1-5, then querying Gen 1:3 should return the section entry and the
verse entry. Presently that requires adding the whole block to each
individual verse, which means the section entry will be repeated 5 times
in the data file. It might be smart to add a linking mechanism similar
to that of our LD modules that allows multiple other entries to be
linked to by a single entry. Presently we only allow linking to a
single entry per verse (obviously).
> >addvs doesn't handle this. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to
> >check if a verse already contains data, then add to it and
> create a new
> >entry if so.
> >
> This is pretty lame. What if someone implements the above
> scheme, at least as an option?
Feel free. Repeat the mantra after me: "cvs co sword, fix it, and
submit a patch".
> >You would then want to clean out the excess entries, such
> >as by running mod2zmod on the module.
> >
> I don't know what this means.
When you replace an entry, the old entry remains in the data file. To
remove the unused and inaccessible entries, you need to rebuild the
module by querying each entry and writing it out anew. But mod2zmod
will do this for you in the process of compression.
> >I guess you could download one of the Windows .zips from
> CrossWire and
> >replace the data.zip enclosed in it with one that uses your module's
> >files & directory structure. We don't handle single file installers
> >because we have InstallMgr, which makes installation even easier.
> >
> Let me put it this way... In what form do you accept the data from
> submitters?
> I would have thought it pretty convenient that there would be
> some form that these things can be moved around as one file -
> an extreme example - maybe people in the 3rd world don't have
> internet connections and need to get modules from friends.
> And maybe they don't use Windows either. Shouldn't there be a
> platform independant, one-file distribution format?
.zips work for me. I can figure out what goes where and usually need to
compress or otherwise clean up modules that get submitted.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 8 14:08:30 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 01:08:30 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Problems making SWORD module...
References: <000401c1982c$cf465300$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <3C3AFD5E.9040707@bitmead.com>
>
>
>
>Feel free. Repeat the mantra after me: "cvs co sword, fix it, and
>submit a patch".
>
>
I can't see myself finding the time anytime soon. Anybody else feel free
to jump in.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 9 01:12:54 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:12:54 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New Diaspora
Message-ID: <003e01c198aa$c5033ab0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
New build of Diaspora at
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/download/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/diaspo
ra.zip . Improvements include:
1) using ICU 2.0 with a number of our own transliterators
2) doesn't crash when exporting ThML, GBF, & Plain (this error was
caused by my incorrectly compiling swordlib without RTTI... oops)
3) various minor updates to use current Sword CVS
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 9 12:57:59 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:57:59 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <3C39D9B6.17787.1836CD8@localhost>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C3C3E57.15026.ADC65AD@localhost>
I've commited everything I have at the moment including the files
generated by autoconf/automake and everything works for me on a clean
checkout. 'make install' need tweaked to install /etc/sword.conf and
stuff, but apart from that the library builds and runs fine.
hth,
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 9 18:40:21 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Scott Thomas)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:40:21 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <3C3C3E57.15026.ADC65AD@localhost>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost> <3C3C3E57.15026.ADC65AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com>
Sorry to sound lame, but I just recently joined the list and wanted
to look at the code, and see where I might be able to volunteer (most
likely testing or documentation, but who knows).
I immediately had two problems I can't resolve from the web info.
1. I followed the cvs (Linux) instructions and obtained the sword
module. I ran ./configure fine, but when I tried to make I got as far
as the keys directory when I got errors, as follows:
src/keys/versekey.cpp: In member function `virtual ListKey
VerseKey::ParseVerseList(const char*, const char*, bool)':
src/keys/versekey.cpp:402: `isdigit' undeclared (first use this
function)
src/keys/versekey.cpp:402: (Each undeclared identifier is reported
only once
for each function it appears in.)
src/keys/versekey.cpp: In member function `VerseKey&
VerseKey::UpperBound(const
char*)':
src/keys/versekey.cpp:718: `isalpha' undeclared (first use this
function)
make[2]: *** [versekey.lo] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/space/docs/scott/Sword/sword'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/space/docs/scott/Sword/sword'
make: *** [all] Error 2
Have I missed something in the preparation for building?
2. On the web site (the URL I received in the email after joining the
list) I tried to download a couple of the publicly locked modules
from the Beta links, but all I got was the conf files. Is there
another location where I should be looking for those modules?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Scott
On Wednesday 09 January 2002 07:57 am, Daniel Glassey wrote:
> I've commited everything I have at the moment including the files
> generated by autoconf/automake and everything works for me on a
> clean checkout. 'make install' need tweaked to install
> /etc/sword.conf and stuff, but apart from that the library builds
> and runs fine.
>
> hth,
> Daniel
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 9 19:25:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:25:36 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New Diaspora & new BibleCS
In-Reply-To: <003e01c198aa$c5033ab0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <004101c19943$6ac134f0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
New build of Diaspora at
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/download/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/diaspo
ra.zip .
This is functionally identical to the version I posted yesterday, but I
have renamed the file icudt20.dll to swicu20.dll and re-linked the exe
accordingly. The reason for the renaming is to avoid clashing with the
standard ICU data file name, since ours has significantly different
content.
There's a new build of BibleCS at
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/swo
rd.zip . This absolutely requires that you also have the file
swicu20.dll. If you don't get Diaspora from the above link, the
swicu20.dll file is available separately at
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/swi
cu20.zip . Just unzip it to the Sword directory.
Improvements include all the minor tweaks to Sword of the last couple
months, zLD support (though it is untested), and significant changes to
the transliterator system. It will now transliterate into Latin or the
Latin-1 subset of Latin from any script used by any current Sword
module. It will also transliterate into Beta and BGreek. It will no
longer transliterate into all those other scripts, because they were
causing bugs to appear.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 9 19:46:31 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (John Gardner)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:46:31 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] conversations with Stallman
In-Reply-To: <3C250E3C.7020201@bitmead.com>
Message-ID:
While the scriptures indicate that God owns everything. It also indicates
personal property. Otherwise how could one steal?
Paying taxes is also an implied admission that the government does not own
everything.
It was considered wicked for one to give his property to the King. See King
Ahab and the Jezreelite with the vinyard.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] conversations with Stallman
>
>
> Tim Hawes wrote:
>
> >I think these fireside chats are great, but I would much rather see them
> >on the news server.
> >
> I'm CCing to fireside for possible follow-ups.
>
> >Chris, before you go on long tirades on socialism,
> >
> I'm not a raving socialist you know. Just wait till some hard-core
> socialists
> get on the list and watch me hammer them about how important the market
> is. :-) I don't like to see one faction getting high and mighty on moral
> grounds.
>
> >Socialism is not about "having
> >all things in common", but rather the government owning everything.
> >
> What about a Kibbutz, is that "the government owning everything"?
>
> >I think
> >socialism is a bad idea, because instead of recognizing that God is Lord
> >over all, and we lend from God, socialists believe that government owns
> >all and we lend from government.
> >
> Follow your logic through. You believe God is Lord over all. So
> you don't own anything, it's God's. Therefore you should use
> everything you own for the good of all God's children. Therefore
> you should gather together with like-minded people and form
> a committee to administer the resources in the best way possible.
> Scale that up a bit and you've got socialism. And this was going
> on all the time in Acts 5.
>
>
> >This is the very war the early
> >Christian martyrs fought against in the early centuries of the Church.
> >Christians were tried and killed as traitors because they said that
> >there was a king over ceasar (King Jesus!).
> >
> I don't see the connection.
>
>
>
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 00:15:44 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:15:44 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost> <3C3C3E57.15026.ADC65AD@localhost> <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com>
Message-ID: <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
This happens with some version of gcc
Add a #include to include/versekey.h and that ought to be enough
Daniel
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2002 6:40 pm, you wrote:
> Sorry to sound lame, but I just recently joined the list and wanted
> to look at the code, and see where I might be able to volunteer (most
> likely testing or documentation, but who knows).
>
> I immediately had two problems I can't resolve from the web info.
>
> 1. I followed the cvs (Linux) instructions and obtained the sword
> module. I ran ./configure fine, but when I tried to make I got as far
> as the keys directory when I got errors, as follows:
>
> src/keys/versekey.cpp: In member function `virtual ListKey
> VerseKey::ParseVerseList(const char*, const char*, bool)':
> src/keys/versekey.cpp:402: `isdigit' undeclared (first use this
> function)
> src/keys/versekey.cpp:402: (Each undeclared identifier is reported
> only once
> for each function it appears in.)
> src/keys/versekey.cpp: In member function `VerseKey&
> VerseKey::UpperBound(const
> char*)':
> src/keys/versekey.cpp:718: `isalpha' undeclared (first use this
> function)
> make[2]: *** [versekey.lo] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/space/docs/scott/Sword/sword'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/space/docs/scott/Sword/sword'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> Have I missed something in the preparation for building?
>
> 2. On the web site (the URL I received in the email after joining the
> list) I tried to download a couple of the publicly locked modules
> from the Beta links, but all I got was the conf files. Is there
> another location where I should be looking for those modules?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wednesday 09 January 2002 07:57 am, Daniel Glassey wrote:
> > I've commited everything I have at the moment including the files
> > generated by autoconf/automake and everything works for me on a
> > clean checkout. 'make install' need tweaked to install
> > /etc/sword.conf and stuff, but apart from that the library builds
> > and runs fine.
> >
> > hth,
> > Daniel
> >
> > _________________________________________________________
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 03:06:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Hastings)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 20:06:16 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] New Diaspora & new BibleCS
In-Reply-To: <004101c19943$6ac134f0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
References: <003e01c198aa$c5033ab0$0600000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020109200307.00a3d4f0@mail.dancris.com>
At 11:25 AM 1/9/2002 -0800, Chris Little wrote:
>There's a new build of BibleCS
>
>It will now transliterate into Latin or the
>Latin-1 subset of Latin from any script used by any current Sword
>module. It will also transliterate into Beta and BGreek.
Should I document this for the helps in 1.5.3? How should this be used?
What is a good module to test it with?
Jerry
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 13:19:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Martin Gruner)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:19:06 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost> <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com> <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201101325.GAA21614@www.crosswire.org>
Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2002 01:15 schrieben Sie:
> This happens with some version of gcc
>
> Add a #include to include/versekey.h and that ought to be enough
>
> Daniel
Can it be put in cvs?
Martin
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 13:28:02 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:28:02 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201101325.GAA21614@www.crosswire.org>
References: <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C3D96E2.13764.101E37A5@localhost>
ok, done
On 10 Jan 2002 at 14:19, Martin Gruner sent forth the message:
>
> Am Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2002 01:15 schrieben Sie:
> > This happens with some version of gcc
> >
> > Add a #include to include/versekey.h and that ought to be enough
> >
> > Daniel
>
> Can it be put in cvs?
>
> Martin
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 13:50:40 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Scott Thomas)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:50:40 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost> <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com> <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201101350.g0ADoi310798@slthomaspc.portal.com>
Thanks for the reply, but that has taken me to a new error:
include/localemgr.h:81: parse error before `(' token
make[2]: *** [versekey.lo] Error 1
BTW, I'm using gcc 3.0.1, if that helps.
Scott
On Wednesday 09 January 2002 07:15 pm, Daniel Glassey wrote:
> This happens with some version of gcc
>
> Add a #include to include/versekey.h and that ought to be
> enough
>
> Daniel
>
> On Wednesday 09 Jan 2002 6:40 pm, you wrote:
> > Sorry to sound lame, but I just recently joined the list and
> > wanted to look at the code, and see where I might be able to
> > volunteer (most likely testing or documentation, but who knows).
> >
> > I immediately had two problems I can't resolve from the web info.
> >
> > 1. I followed the cvs (Linux) instructions and obtained the sword
> > module. I ran ./configure fine, but when I tried to make I got as
> > far as the keys directory when I got errors, as follows:
> >
> > src/keys/versekey.cpp: In member function `virtual ListKey
> > VerseKey::ParseVerseList(const char*, const char*, bool)':
> > src/keys/versekey.cpp:402: `isdigit' undeclared (first use this
> > function)
> > src/keys/versekey.cpp:402: (Each undeclared identifier is
> > reported only once
> > for each function it appears in.)
> > src/keys/versekey.cpp: In member function `VerseKey&
> > VerseKey::UpperBound(const
> > char*)':
> > src/keys/versekey.cpp:718: `isalpha' undeclared (first use this
> > function)
> > make[2]: *** [versekey.lo] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/space/docs/scott/Sword/sword'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/space/docs/scott/Sword/sword'
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
> >
> > Have I missed something in the preparation for building?
> >
> > 2. On the web site (the URL I received in the email after joining
> > the list) I tried to download a couple of the publicly locked
> > modules from the Beta links, but all I got was the conf files. Is
> > there another location where I should be looking for those
> > modules?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Wednesday 09 January 2002 07:57 am, Daniel Glassey wrote:
> > > I've commited everything I have at the moment including the
> > > files generated by autoconf/automake and everything works for
> > > me on a clean checkout. 'make install' need tweaked to install
> > > /etc/sword.conf and stuff, but apart from that the library
> > > builds and runs fine.
> > >
> > > hth,
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 17:43:09 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:43:09 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201101350.g0ADoi310798@slthomaspc.portal.com>
References: <200201100022.RAA04978@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C3DD2AD.8418.1107C87E@localhost>
Hmmm, don't understand that one.
btw, forgot to say, welcome to the list :)
On 10 Jan 2002 at 8:50, Scott Thomas sent forth the message:
> Thanks for the reply, but that has taken me to a new error:
>
> include/localemgr.h:81: parse error before `(' token
> make[2]: *** [versekey.lo] Error 1
81:virtual list < string > getAvailableLocales ();
I guess something in the isn't valid c++ for gcc 3. Any ideas?
> BTW, I'm using gcc 3.0.1, if that helps.
Anyone else have it and can shed light on the matter?
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 18:47:45 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:47:45 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New Diaspora & new BibleCS
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020109200307.00a3d4f0@mail.dancris.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c19a07$4ae27c10$0f01a8c0@didymus>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Hastings
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:06 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org; sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Diaspora & new BibleCS
>
>
> At 11:25 AM 1/9/2002 -0800, Chris Little wrote:
>
> >There's a new build of BibleCS
> >
> >It will now transliterate into Latin or the
> >Latin-1 subset of Latin from any script used by any current Sword
> >module. It will also transliterate into Beta and BGreek.
>
> Should I document this for the helps in 1.5.3?
Probably. It depends on what people think of it and how well it works.
There is a bug with Beta transliteration of polytonic Greek that I
believe may be caused by ICU 2.0 itself and not my transliterator, but
I'm not sure yet.
> How should this be used?
> What is a good module to test it with?
It acts like any other option filter, but it can work with any module.
However, you'll need to use a non-Latin module since the transliterators
to non-Latin scripts are hidden. Hebrew, Greek, Russian, Arabic, etc.
should all work well.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 10 20:16:53 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:16:53 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost> <3C3C3E57.15026.ADC65AD@localhost> <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com>
Message-ID: <200201102023.NAA27437@www.crosswire.org>
I've got hold of gcc 3.0.3 and tried it and it compiles the library ok, maybe
versekey.h got corrupted on a cvs update. try deleting versekey.h, doing a
cvs update and try again.
Unfortunately I get problems once it gets to tests:
g++-3.0 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../tests -I.. -I ../../include -g -O2 -c
-o testblocks.o `test -f ../../tests/testblocks.cpp || echo
'../../tests/'`../../tests/testblocks.cpp
../../tests/testblocks.cpp: In function `void addEntry(EntriesBlock*)':
../../tests/testblocks.cpp:8: `string' undeclared (first use this function)
../../tests/testblocks.cpp:8: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once
for each function it appears in.)
../../tests/testblocks.cpp:8: parse error before `;' token
../../tests/testblocks.cpp:15: `input' undeclared (first use this function)
../../tests/testblocks.cpp:17: `body' undeclared (first use this function)
../../tests/testblocks.cpp: In function `int main(int, char**)':
../../tests/testblocks.cpp:52: parse error before `;' token
8: string input;
STL problems?
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 11 11:19:02 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:19:02 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-support] Compiling problems in Mandrake 8.1
In-Reply-To: <3C3EA3EC.16480.C51E8@localhost>
References: <02011102035600.25230@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3C3ECA26.13661.14CE68BA@localhost>
ok, I haven't tested this yet, but it should work. it's definitely finding
string, otherwise it would have complained about it, so you don't need to
add Barrys file anywhere.
you need to have this just after the includes:
using namespace std;
Either that or change references to string etc to std::string
I'll change it in cvs tonight once I test it.
Regards,
Daniel
On 11 Jan 2002 at 8:35, Barry Drake sent forth the message:
> Hi .......
>
> On 11 Jan 2002 at 2:03, Franklin Bratcher wrote:
> > Everything goes fine till this point, anyone have a clue how to deal with
> > this? this is Mandrake 8.1 with the latest GCC.
> > function `void addEntry(EntriesBlock*)': testblocks.cpp:8: `string'
> > undeclared (first use this function)
>
> I do remember 'string' being a bit hard to find. It's a header called
> 'string' (not 'string.h') that should be in the GCC headers and wasn't in
> the release I had. I can't remember where I found it - I've attached it.
> Hope it hasn't changed since the rather old one I have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 11 21:21:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:21:38 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Build problems with CVS
In-Reply-To: <200201102023.NAA27437@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C397FBF.4996.23FD61@localhost> <200201091840.g09IePO06185@slthomaspc.portal.com> <200201102023.NAA27437@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201112128.OAA19893@www.crosswire.org>
ok, it compiles cleanly on gcc 3.0 now, fixes in cvs
Daniel
On Thursday 10 Jan 2002 8:16 pm, you wrote:
> I've got hold of gcc 3.0.3 and tried it and it compiles the library ok,
> maybe versekey.h got corrupted on a cvs update. try deleting versekey.h,
> doing a cvs update and try again.
>
> Unfortunately I get problems once it gets to tests:
>
> g++-3.0 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../tests -I.. -I ../../include -g -O2
> -c -o testblocks.o `test -f ../../tests/testblocks.cpp || echo
> '../../tests/'`../../tests/testblocks.cpp
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp: In function `void addEntry(EntriesBlock*)':
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp:8: `string' undeclared (first use this function)
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp:8: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
> once
> for each function it appears in.)
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp:8: parse error before `;' token
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp:15: `input' undeclared (first use this function)
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp:17: `body' undeclared (first use this function)
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp: In function `int main(int, char**)':
> ../../tests/testblocks.cpp:52: parse error before `;' token
>
> 8: string input;
>
> STL problems?
>
> Daniel
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 08:34:29 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:34:29 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
Message-ID: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com>
I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" includes Hebrews.
Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews is by Paul?
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 09:17:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joe Walker)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 09:17:37 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com>
References: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <1010827068.13191.18.camel@tameion.eireneh.com>
On Sat, 2002-01-12 at 08:34, Chris wrote:
>
> I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" includes Hebrews.
> Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews is by Paul?
At the risk of getting off topic, I think there is an empirical "yes" to
your question - some people do seriously believe that. My "Charts of the
New Testament" book (by H. Wayne House) suggests the following options
in order (with a very detailed list of pros and cons to each)
1. Paul
2. Luke
3. Apollos
4. Barnabas
5. Priscilla and Aquila
6. Clement of Rome
However this does not answer the real question "Where should we group
Hebrews?". An alternative might be to have groups "letters to people"
and "letters from people", but whilst technically correct, that doesn't
seem to be clearer.
The answer would be in where our average user expected Hebrews to be,
and I would estimate that under "Paul's Epistles" was not a bad answer,
even if technically incorrect, people would guess where to go.
Joe.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 12:54:51 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:54:51 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com> <1010827068.13191.18.camel@tameion.eireneh.com>
Message-ID: <3C40321B.7030505@bitmead.com>
>
>
>The answer would be in where our average user expected Hebrews to be,and I would estimate that under "Paul's Epistles" was not a bad answer,
>
>even if technically incorrect, people would guess where to go.
>
Hmm, when searching (that's the only purpose of the categories isn't
it?), I was
surprised to see Hebrews results come up. Yep, I know that it used to be
accepted as fact that Paul wrote it, but I didn't think many people
believed that
any more.
>However this does not answer the real question "Where should we group
>Hebrews?". An alternative might be to have groups "letters to people"
>and "letters from people", but whilst technically correct, that doesn't
>seem to be clearer.
>
I thought the nature of these categories is that a book can be in many
categories, or
none. It is a letter, so it is in "Letters/Epistles". I would have
thought that enough.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 17:39:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:39:06 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
> I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews
> is by Paul?
We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
sources?
We include Daniel with the prophets, despite his exclusion from that
group in the Hebrew canon itself. Does anybody seriously believe that
Daniel lived during the Babylonian exile, despite his apparently not
knowing that the Medes never ruled Judea and the fact that he apparently
can't decide whether he prefers Hebrew or Aramaic, then forgets them
both and starts writing in Greek around the end of his composition?
There's a case to be made that Daniel should be removed from the
prophets purely on the basis of it belonging to the apocalyptic genre.
So then, if we created an apocalyptic category, where do we put Ezekiel
& Isaiah? Maybe both? Maybe 1st Isaiah goes to the prophets, 2nd
Isaiah goes to the apocalyptic?
My point is that scholarship challenges many traditional notions of
Biblical authorship. At one point, Pauline authorship of Hebrews was
the prevailing view. That view is, indeed, still maintained by plenty
of people today. There's not even a claim to be made on the basis of
the age of questioned authorship because the traditional authorship of
the Pentateuch has been doubted for centuries and of Daniel since the
4th century. Modern Bibles don't typically group Hebrews with the
catholic epistles either, so we might as well group it with the Pauline.
NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 17:51:11 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:51:11 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020112114532.00a8dc38@pop3.norton.antivirus>
I sent the following message last Friday, 1/4, and now again today,
Saturday, 1/12. Since I'm new at this, I don't know what protocols you
follow in answering questions/responding to bug reports. If I'm getting in
too big a hurry, I'm sorry, I'm just anxious to be able to get on with
testing this software.
*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled the
program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr to
download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries. I
added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done previously).
The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box opened
with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I entered the
lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file. At that point, I
didn't know what to do: should I click on "TRY" or "OK"?
I ended up trying both on different runs. When I clicked on TRY, my
machine simply sat there with no indication of any activity of any sort (no
disk activity, no Internet activity, nothing). After about 7 minutes, I
clicked on OK. The installation immediately opened a window indicating it
was ready to try to install NIV (opened the cipher window). I cancelled
the installation.
I looked at the /modules/texts/ directory to see what had been created this
time since on prior install attempts there was no rawtext directory, only a
ztext directory. This time there was a rawtext directory containing
KJV. I then looked at the mods.d directory to see what .conf files had
been created. There was one for KJV which pointed to /rawtext/ via
DataPath. There was also one for NASB95. It contained the correct
CipherKey and DataPath, but there was no NASB95 directory in /rawtext/.
I tried unzipping the NASB95 file I had previously downloaded from the beta
section and ran the Setup.Exe. No NASB95 was created under /rawtext/.
My conclusion is that the installation works just great using either
InstallMgr or doing it manually by downloading, unzipping, and running
Setup as long as the file is not a locked file. There appears to be a real
problem, however, whenever a locked file is involved.
Any help you can give me at this point would be appreciated.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 18:48:52 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Martin Gruner)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:48:52 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <200201121855.LAA26645@www.crosswire.org>
> > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews
> > is by Paul?
Traditionally, those letters with Paul as sender in the text are considered
Paul's letters. That would be Romans - Philemon. That is how we handle our
letters too, by the way. Hebrews may, and may not be from Paul.
> We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
> of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
> Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
> sources?
I do, though that may not count much here. Where do you want to draw the line
in the text? Which is the objective criterion of your distinction? Has there
ever been any consensus in the critic science on this matter?
Martin
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 22:24:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:24:06 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <3C40B786.20304@bitmead.com>
Chris Little wrote:
>>I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
>>includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews
>>is by Paul?
>>
>
>We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
>of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
>Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
>sources?
>
That sounds like a whole more complex argument.
Whereas it seems to me Hebrews tells explicitely it was NOT Paul. (2:3),
indicates that the author had
neither been with Jesus during his earthly ministry nor received special
revelation directly from the risen Lord, as had Paul (Gal 1:11-12).
>My point is that scholarship challenges many traditional notions of
>Biblical authorship. At one point, Pauline authorship of Hebrews was
>the prevailing view.
>
And prior to it becoming a prevailing view, it was not the prevailing view.
>Modern Bibles don't typically group Hebrews with the
>catholic epistles either, so we might as well group it with the Pauline.
>
I don't see that you must group it just for the sake of grouping it.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 12 22:54:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 17:54:48 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com>
References: <3C3FF515.4010409@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <1010876090.11488.2.camel@office>
A lot of us old folks do!
On Sat, 2002-01-12 at 03:34, Chris wrote:
>
> I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles" includes Hebrews.
> Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews is by Paul?
>
>
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 00:51:34 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:51:34 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <02011219513405.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote:
> > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews
> > is by Paul?
>
> We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
> of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
> Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
> sources?
Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> We include Daniel with the prophets, despite his exclusion from that
> group in the Hebrew canon itself. Does anybody seriously believe that
> Daniel lived during the Babylonian exile, despite his apparently not
> knowing that the Medes never ruled Judea and the fact that he apparently
> can't decide whether he prefers Hebrew or Aramaic, then forgets them
> both and starts writing in Greek around the end of his composition?
The text is in Hebrew/Aramaic. The names of the three musical instruments are
greek words (not written in greek).
Not to start any arguments but...
Why call matthew, matthew when it wasn't written by him
same with luke, mark, john.
Why believe a word john writes at all when there was never any custom to
release a prisoner at pesach by Pilate?
--
7:30pm up 32 days, 3:20, 10 users, load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.02
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 01:14:40 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Flemming Vilster)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 02:14:40 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <02011219513405.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <001601c19bcf$ade38830$5c972fc3@vilsterlaptop>
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
> On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote:
> > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> > > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews
> > > is by Paul?
> >
> > We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
> > of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
> > Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
> > sources?
>
> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
>
> > We include Daniel with the prophets, despite his exclusion from that
> > group in the Hebrew canon itself. Does anybody seriously believe that
> > Daniel lived during the Babylonian exile, despite his apparently not
> > knowing that the Medes never ruled Judea and the fact that he apparently
> > can't decide whether he prefers Hebrew or Aramaic, then forgets them
> > both and starts writing in Greek around the end of his composition?
>
> The text is in Hebrew/Aramaic. The names of the three musical instruments are
> greek words (not written in greek).
>
> Not to start any arguments but...
> Why call matthew, matthew when it wasn't written by him
> same with luke, mark, john.
>
> Why believe a word john writes at all when there was never any custom to
> release a prisoner at pesach by Pilate?
Apparently someone has a hard time believing the fundamental truth in 2 Tim 3:16, that all scriptures is inspired by God.
I'm sure it will do you good if you spend some more time with the Bible that with litterature considering criticism.
Flemming
>
> --
> 7:30pm up 32 days, 3:20, 10 users, load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.02
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 02:00:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:00:05 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <001601c19bcf$ade38830$5c972fc3@vilsterlaptop>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <02011219513405.17871@webserver.house.hse> <001601c19bcf$ade38830$5c972fc3@vilsterlaptop>
Message-ID: <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:14, you wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "chris"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
>
> > On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote:
> > > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> > > > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that Hebrews
> > > > is by Paul?
> > >
> > > We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
> > > of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
> > > Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
> > > sources?
> >
> > Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> >
> > > We include Daniel with the prophets, despite his exclusion from that
> > > group in the Hebrew canon itself. Does anybody seriously believe that
> > > Daniel lived during the Babylonian exile, despite his apparently not
> > > knowing that the Medes never ruled Judea and the fact that he
> > > apparently can't decide whether he prefers Hebrew or Aramaic, then
> > > forgets them both and starts writing in Greek around the end of his
> > > composition?
> >
> > The text is in Hebrew/Aramaic. The names of the three musical instruments
> > are greek words (not written in greek).
> >
> > Not to start any arguments but...
> > Why call matthew, matthew when it wasn't written by him
> > same with luke, mark, john.
> >
> > Why believe a word john writes at all when there was never any custom to
> > release a prisoner at pesach by Pilate?
>
> Apparently someone has a hard time believing the fundamental truth in 2 Tim
> 3:16, that all scriptures is inspired by God. I'm sure it will do you good
> if you spend some more time with the Bible that with litterature
> considering criticism.
No, I have no problem believing that statement considering the very
"Scripture" it refers to has nothing to do with any book in the xian bible
but with the Torah. The "nt" was not in existance at that time. I suppose you
think that paul used a copy of the KJV NT to teach?
The "literature considering criticism" you refer to is called History.
As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument over
this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
--
8:53pm up 32 days, 4:43, 10 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 04:00:52 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:00:52 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <001601c19bcf$ade38830$5c972fc3@vilsterlaptop> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <200201130400.g0D40qF09236@jerrykreps.athome>
On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:00, you wrote:
> On Saturday 12 January 2002 20:14, you wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chris"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
> >
> > > On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:39, you wrote:
> > > > > I see that the default for Sword is that "Paul's Epistles"
> > > > > includes Hebrews. Does anybody seriously believe that
> > > > > Hebrews is by Paul?
> > > >
> > > > We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses
> > > > respectively in many of our localized book names. Does
> > > > anybody seriously believe that the Pentateuch was written by
> > > > Moses and is not an amalgam of four major sources?
> > >
> > > Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> > >
> > > > We include Daniel with the prophets, despite his exclusion
> > > > from that group in the Hebrew canon itself. Does anybody
> > > > seriously believe that Daniel lived during the Babylonian
> > > > exile, despite his apparently not knowing that the Medes
> > > > never ruled Judea and the fact that he apparently can't
> > > > decide whether he prefers Hebrew or Aramaic, then forgets
> > > > them both and starts writing in Greek around the end of his
> > > > composition?
> > >
> > > The text is in Hebrew/Aramaic. The names of the three musical
> > > instruments are greek words (not written in greek).
> > >
> > > Not to start any arguments but...
> > > Why call matthew, matthew when it wasn't written by him
> > > same with luke, mark, john.
> > >
> > > Why believe a word john writes at all when there was never any
> > > custom to release a prisoner at pesach by Pilate?
> >
> > Apparently someone has a hard time believing the fundamental
> > truth in 2 Tim 3:16, that all scriptures is inspired by God. I'm
> > sure it will do you good if you spend some more time with the
> > Bible that with litterature considering criticism.
>
> No, I have no problem believing that statement considering the
> very "Scripture" it refers to has nothing to do with any book in
> the xian bible but with the Torah. The "nt" was not in existance at
> that time. I suppose you think that paul used a copy of the KJV NT
> to teach?
>
Interesting statement. Jude makes a similar statement in Jude 3:
"...to contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the
saints...."
Obviously, the letter of Jude, which some historians believe was
written between 67AD and 70AD, cannot be part of the Faith because
Jude states the Faith was once and for all being delivered (past
tense) to the saints. The same would be true for any letters written
after Jude was written, which is many of them, including Revelations.
John 5:37 holds the answer.
JLK
> The "literature considering criticism" you refer to is called
> History.
>
> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a
> argument over this. I was merely pointing out some well known
> facts.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 04:32:55 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:32:55 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Borland follows in Microsoft's footsteps with draconian license
Message-ID: <200201130432.g0D4WtF09453@jerrykreps.athome>
http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/369/
For sale, cheap: One Copy of Kylix 1.0 Desktop Editon
Contains 3 CDs and 3 manuals.
Now destroyed and no longer present on my PC or archives: one
downloaded copy of Kylix 2.0 Open Edition.
What will never happen again: me purchasing another Borland Product
JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 05:28:50 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:28:50 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Re: Borland follows in Microsoft's footsteps with draconian license
In-Reply-To: <200201130432.g0D4WtF09453@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <200201130432.g0D4WtF09453@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID:
Jerry -
Ouch... that's horrible. Well, now Borland isn't a choice, and Microsoft of
course isn't a (good) choice - I see a big void needing to be filled with a
good IDE.
-Tim
On Saturday 12 January 2002 10:32 pm, Jerry Kreps wrote:
> http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/369/
>
> For sale, cheap: One Copy of Kylix 1.0 Desktop Editon
> Contains 3 CDs and 3 manuals.
>
> Now destroyed and no longer present on my PC or archives: one
> downloaded copy of Kylix 2.0 Open Edition.
>
> What will never happen again: me purchasing another Borland Product
> JLK
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 20:21:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Scott Thomas)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:21:27 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020112114532.00a8dc38@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Lloyd,
I just recently joined the list, and expressed a similar problem
installing locked modules. If you find out the solution, I'd appreciate
hearing about it, if it isn't published on the list.
Thanks,
Scott
On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
> I sent the following message last Friday, 1/4, and now again today,
> Saturday, 1/12. Since I'm new at this, I don't know what protocols
> you follow in answering questions/responding to bug reports. If I'm
> getting in too big a hurry, I'm sorry, I'm just anxious to be able to
> get on with testing this software.
>
> *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
>
> Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> previously).
>
> The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
> At that point, I didn't know what to do: should I click on "TRY" or
> "OK"?
>
> I ended up trying both on different runs. When I clicked on TRY, my
> machine simply sat there with no indication of any activity of any
> sort (no disk activity, no Internet activity, nothing). After about 7
> minutes, I clicked on OK. The installation immediately opened a
> window indicating it was ready to try to install NIV (opened the
> cipher window). I cancelled the installation.
>
> I looked at the /modules/texts/ directory to see what had been created
> this time since on prior install attempts there was no rawtext
> directory, only a ztext directory. This time there was a rawtext
> directory containing KJV. I then looked at the mods.d directory to
> see what .conf files had been created. There was one for KJV which
> pointed to /rawtext/ via DataPath. There was also one for NASB95. It
> contained the correct CipherKey and DataPath, but there was no NASB95
> directory in /rawtext/.
>
> I tried unzipping the NASB95 file I had previously downloaded from the
> beta section and ran the Setup.Exe. No NASB95 was created under
> /rawtext/.
>
> My conclusion is that the installation works just great using either
> InstallMgr or doing it manually by downloading, unzipping, and running
> Setup as long as the file is not a locked file. There appears to be a
> real problem, however, whenever a locked file is involved.
>
> Any help you can give me at this point would be appreciated.
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 20:54:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:54:38 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C41F40E.A34E55E0@crosswire.org>
Hey guys,
Sorry for no one responding to you sooner. We seem to be having
problems with our servlet on the beta site that builds the installer.
For now, you'll have to use installmgr by pointing it to:
site:
sword.cx
path:
pub/sword/betaraw
or just download the files directly from that ftp location.
Sorry for the troubles.
-Troy.
Scott Thomas wrote:
>
> Lloyd,
>
> I just recently joined the list, and expressed a similar problem
> installing locked modules. If you find out the solution, I'd appreciate
> hearing about it, if it isn't published on the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
> On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
>
> > I sent the following message last Friday, 1/4, and now again today,
> > Saturday, 1/12. Since I'm new at this, I don't know what protocols
> > you follow in answering questions/responding to bug reports. If I'm
> > getting in too big a hurry, I'm sorry, I'm just anxious to be able to
> > get on with testing this software.
> >
> > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
> >
> > Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> > the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> > to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> > translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> > I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> > previously).
> >
> > The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> > already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> > opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> > entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
> > At that point, I didn't know what to do: should I click on "TRY" or
> > "OK"?
> >
> > I ended up trying both on different runs. When I clicked on TRY, my
> > machine simply sat there with no indication of any activity of any
> > sort (no disk activity, no Internet activity, nothing). After about 7
> > minutes, I clicked on OK. The installation immediately opened a
> > window indicating it was ready to try to install NIV (opened the
> > cipher window). I cancelled the installation.
> >
> > I looked at the /modules/texts/ directory to see what had been created
> > this time since on prior install attempts there was no rawtext
> > directory, only a ztext directory. This time there was a rawtext
> > directory containing KJV. I then looked at the mods.d directory to
> > see what .conf files had been created. There was one for KJV which
> > pointed to /rawtext/ via DataPath. There was also one for NASB95. It
> > contained the correct CipherKey and DataPath, but there was no NASB95
> > directory in /rawtext/.
> >
> > I tried unzipping the NASB95 file I had previously downloaded from the
> > beta section and ran the Setup.Exe. No NASB95 was created under
> > /rawtext/.
> >
> > My conclusion is that the installation works just great using either
> > InstallMgr or doing it manually by downloading, unzipping, and running
> > Setup as long as the file is not a locked file. There appears to be a
> > real problem, however, whenever a locked file is involved.
> >
> > Any help you can give me at this point would be appreciated.
> >
> >
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 21:09:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Scott Thomas)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:09:48 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <3C41F40E.A34E55E0@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C41B14C.10336.3B1AD1@localhost>
Troy,
Thanks for the info ...
On the ftp, is the login the same as the cvs login?
Thanks,
Scott
On 13 Jan 2002, at 13:54, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Sorry for no one responding to you sooner. We seem to be having
> problems with our servlet on the beta site that builds the installer.
> For now, you'll have to use installmgr by pointing it to: site:
> sword.cx path: pub/sword/betaraw
>
> or just download the files directly from that ftp location.
>
> Sorry for the troubles.
>
> -Troy.
>
>
>
> Scott Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Lloyd,
> >
> > I just recently joined the list, and expressed a similar problem
> > installing locked modules. If you find out the solution, I'd
> > appreciate hearing about it, if it isn't published on the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > I sent the following message last Friday, 1/4, and now again
> > > today, Saturday, 1/12. Since I'm new at this, I don't know what
> > > protocols you follow in answering questions/responding to bug
> > > reports. If I'm getting in too big a hurry, I'm sorry, I'm just
> > > anxious to be able to get on with testing this software.
> > >
> > > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> > > *+*+ *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
> > >
> > > Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I
> > > uninstalled the program and started from scratch. This time I
> > > used the InstallMgr to download and install add-in modules. I
> > > selected a number of Bible translations, both locked and unlocked
> > > as well as some commentaries. I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers
> > > (something I had not done previously).
> > >
> > > The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's
> > > had already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a
> > > box opened with the message that the version appeared to be
> > > ciphered. I entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the
> > > supersecret file. At that point, I didn't know what to do: should
> > > I click on "TRY" or "OK"?
> > >
> > > I ended up trying both on different runs. When I clicked on TRY,
> > > my machine simply sat there with no indication of any activity of
> > > any sort (no disk activity, no Internet activity, nothing). After
> > > about 7 minutes, I clicked on OK. The installation immediately
> > > opened a window indicating it was ready to try to install NIV
> > > (opened the cipher window). I cancelled the installation.
> > >
> > > I looked at the /modules/texts/ directory to see what had been
> > > created this time since on prior install attempts there was no
> > > rawtext directory, only a ztext directory. This time there was a
> > > rawtext directory containing KJV. I then looked at the mods.d
> > > directory to see what .conf files had been created. There was one
> > > for KJV which pointed to /rawtext/ via DataPath. There was also
> > > one for NASB95. It contained the correct CipherKey and DataPath,
> > > but there was no NASB95 directory in /rawtext/.
> > >
> > > I tried unzipping the NASB95 file I had previously downloaded from
> > > the beta section and ran the Setup.Exe. No NASB95 was created
> > > under /rawtext/.
> > >
> > > My conclusion is that the installation works just great using
> > > either InstallMgr or doing it manually by downloading, unzipping,
> > > and running Setup as long as the file is not a locked file. There
> > > appears to be a real problem, however, whenever a locked file is
> > > involved.
> > >
> > > Any help you can give me at this point would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 21:28:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:28:48 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <3C40B786.20304@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <005601c19c79$49d07a60$0600000a@DIASPORA>
> >My point is that scholarship challenges many traditional notions of
> >Biblical authorship. At one point, Pauline authorship of
> Hebrews was
> >the prevailing view.
> >
> And prior to it becoming a prevailing view, it was not the
> prevailing view.
>
> >Modern Bibles don't typically group Hebrews with the
> >catholic epistles either, so we might as well group it with the
> >Pauline.
> >
> I don't see that you must group it just for the sake of grouping it.
Okay, I checked through the interface at the bits to which you referred
and noticed the Letters/Epistles option that someone else had mentioned.
I'll agree that Hebrews does fit this category and doesn't fit into
Pauline Epistles. However, I don't think anything should be changed.
My reason is that some people will want Hebrews results to be included
in their Pauline Epistles searches. There are those who won't, but it
is much simpler to ignore all the returned Hebrews references than it is
to do two searches, one on Pauline Epistles and a second on Hebrews--or
one on Pauline Epistles then a second on Rom-Heb when you realize the
former does not include Hebrews as expected.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 21:34:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:34:48 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <3C41B14C.10336.3B1AD1@localhost>
Message-ID: <005701c19c7a$20683d10$0600000a@DIASPORA>
> On the ftp, is the login the same as the cvs login?
It's anonymous FTP.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 13 11:26:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Bobby Nations)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 05:26:35 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] unti test classes for JSword
Message-ID: <1010921197.16096.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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All,
I've made some progress on getting the unit test classes up and going on
the JSword project. Attached are two test classes along with a new ant
build containing targets to run all test cases and generate reports on
their results. The target names are 'test' and 'results' respectively.
In order to run the results target, you'll need two jar files from the
apache group's xalan xml project, xalan.jar and xerces.jar, to be either
in your CLASSPATH or in the ANT_HOME/lib directory. I'm working with
them to get this requirement removed.
Cheers,
Bobby
P.S. Is anyone else working on JSword?
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// CanonTest.java
package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
import junit.framework.TestCase;
import junit.framework.TestSuite;
/**
* CanonTest (Copyright 2001 )
*=20
* This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
*=20
* @author Bobby Nations
* @date $Date: $
* @version $Revision: $
*=20
* @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
* @see some.other.package
*/
public class CanonTest extends TestCase
{
/**
* Constructor (needed for JTest)
* @param name Name of Object
*/
public CanonTest(String name) {
super(name);
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
*/
protected void setUp() {
canon =3D new Canon();
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
*/
protected void tearDown() {
canon =3D null;
}
/**
* Test the constructor: Canon()
*/
public void testCanon() {
}
/**
* Test the old testament books array #1
*/
public void testOTBooks1() {
assertTrue( "Genesis" =3D=3D canon.otbooks[0].name );
assertTrue( 50 =3D=3D canon.otbooks[0].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the old testament books array #2
*/
public void testOTBooks2() {
assertTrue( "Psalms" =3D=3D canon.otbooks[18].name );
assertTrue( 150 =3D=3D canon.otbooks[18].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the old testament books array #3
*/
public void testOTBooks3() {
assertTrue( "Malachi" =3D=3D canon.otbooks[38].name );
assertTrue( 4 =3D=3D canon.otbooks[38].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array length
*/
public void testOTBooksLength() {
assertTrue( 39 =3D=3D canon.otbooks.length );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array #1
*/
public void testNTBooks1() {
assertTrue( "Matthew" =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[0].name );
assertTrue( 28 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[0].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array #2
*/
public void testNTBooks2() {
assertTrue( "Titus" =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[16].name );
assertTrue( 3 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[16].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array #3
*/
public void testNTBooks3() {
assertTrue( "Revelation of John" =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[26].name );
assertTrue( 22 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks[26].chapmax );
}
/**
* Test the new testament books array length
*/
public void testNTBooksLength() {
assertTrue( 27 =3D=3D canon.ntbooks.length );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #1
*/
public void testAbbrevs1() {
assertTrue( "1 C" =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].ab );
assertTrue( 46 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].book );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #2
*/
public void testAbbrevs2() {
assertTrue( "PSALMS" =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].ab );
assertTrue( 19 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].book );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #3
*/
public void testAbbrevs3() {
int n =3D canon.builtin_abbrevs.length;
assertTrue( "" =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].ab );
assertTrue( -1 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].book );
}
/**
* Test the abbreviations for all books array #4
*/
public void testAbbrevsLength() {
assertTrue( 184 =3D=3D canon.builtin_abbrevs.length );
}
/**
* Main method needed to make a self runnable class
*=20
* @param args This is required for main method
*/
public static void main(String[] args) {
junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(CanonTest.class) );
}
private Canon canon;
}
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// SWKeyTest.java
package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
import junit.framework.TestCase;
import junit.framework.TestSuite;
/**
* SWKeyTest (Copyright 2001 )
*=20
* This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
*=20
*
Explanation about the tested class and its responsibilities
*=20
* Relations:
* SWKey extends java.lang.Object
* SWKey implements java.lang.Cloneable, java.lang.Comparable
*=20
* @author -
* @date $Date: $
* @version $Revision: $
*=20
* @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
* @see some.other.package
*/
public class SWKeyTest extends TestCase
{
/**
* Constructor (needed for JTest)
* @param name Name of Object
*/
public SWKeyTest(String name) {
super(name);
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
*/
protected void setUp() {
//swkey =3D new SWKey();
}
/**
* Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
*/
protected void tearDown() {
swkey =3D null;
}
/**
* Test the constructor: SWKey()
*/
public void testSWKey() {
}
/**
* Test the constructor: SWKey(String)
*/
public void testSWKey_1() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
String str [] =3D {null, "\u0000", " "};
}
/**
* Test the constructor: SWKey(SWKey)
*/
public void testSWKey_2() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
//SWKey;
}
/**
* Test method: int compareTo(Object)
*/
public void testCompareTo() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
Object oValues [] =3D { null };
}
/**
* Test method: java.lang.Object clone()
*/
public void testClone() {
}
/**
* Test method: String toString()
*/
public void testToString() {
}
/**
* Test method: void set(SWKey)
*/
public void testSet() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
//SWKey;
}
/**
* Test method: void next(int)
*/
public void testNext_1() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
int intValues [] =3D {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
}
/**
* Test method: void next()
*/
public void testNext() {
}
/**
* Test method: void previous(int)
*/
public void testPrevious_1() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
int intValues [] =3D {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
}
/**
* Test method: void previous()
*/
public void testPrevious() {
}
/**
* Test method: String getText()
*/
public void testGetText() {
}
/**
* Test method: int getError()
*/
public void testGetError() {
}
/**
* Test method: void position(int)
*/
public void testPosition() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
int intValues [] =3D {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
}
/**
* Test method: boolean isPersist()
*/
public void testIsPersist() {
}
/**
* Test method: void setPersist(boolean)
*/
public void testSetPersist() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
boolean BValues [] =3D { true, false };
}
/**
* Test method: boolean traversable()
*/
public void testTraversable() {
}
/**
* Test method: void setText(String)
*/
public void testSetText() {
//Must test for the following parameters!
String str [] =3D {null, "\u0000", " "};
}
/**
* Main method needed to make a self runnable class
*=20
* @param args This is required for main method
*/
public static void main(String[] args) {
junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(SWKeyTest.class) );
}
private SWKey swkey;
}
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 11:43:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:43:33 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <20020114114356.0C2DC32593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Sunday 13 January 2002 01:39, Chris Little wrote:
> We also call the books of the Pentateuch 1-5 Moses respectively in many
> of our localized book names. Does anybody seriously believe that the
> Pentateuch was written by Moses and is not an amalgam of four major
> sources?
The JEDP hypothesis?
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/dochypo.html
In point of fact, Gensis does have some ``natural'' subdivisions in it, each
one ``signed'' for the people it relates to, but that's quite a different
concept to JEDP's post-facto amalgamation.
http://www.rae.org/bits10.htm
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 11:49:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:49:33 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <001601c19bcf$ade38830$5c972fc3@vilsterlaptop> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please explain?
> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument over
> this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as facts,
why has debate ensued?
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 13:02:00 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:02:00 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net>
Message-ID: <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
>
> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
> explain?
I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to spell
out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
messiah.
> > As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument over
> > this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
>
> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as
> facts, why has debate ensued?
Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that
particular custom was well known.
> Cheers; Leon
--
7:29am up 33 days, 15:18, 10 users, load average: 0.26, 0.21, 0.08
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 15:48:58 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:48:58 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <3C41F40E.A34E55E0@crosswire.org>
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020114094839.00a7cdd0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
That solved the problem. Thanks, Troy.
At 01:54 PM 1/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey guys,
> Sorry for no one responding to you sooner. We seem to be having
>problems with our servlet on the beta site that builds the installer.
>For now, you'll have to use installmgr by pointing it to:
>site:
>sword.cx
>path:
>pub/sword/betaraw
>
>or just download the files directly from that ftp location.
>
> Sorry for the troubles.
>
> -Troy.
>
>
>
>Scott Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Lloyd,
> >
> > I just recently joined the list, and expressed a similar problem
> > installing locked modules. If you find out the solution, I'd appreciate
> > hearing about it, if it isn't published on the list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > I sent the following message last Friday, 1/4, and now again today,
> > > Saturday, 1/12. Since I'm new at this, I don't know what protocols
> > > you follow in answering questions/responding to bug reports. If I'm
> > > getting in too big a hurry, I'm sorry, I'm just anxious to be able to
> > > get on with testing this software.
> > >
> > > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> > > *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
> > >
> > > Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> > > the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> > > to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> > > translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> > > I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> > > previously).
> > >
> > > The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> > > already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> > > opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> > > entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
> > > At that point, I didn't know what to do: should I click on "TRY" or
> > > "OK"?
> > >
> > > I ended up trying both on different runs. When I clicked on TRY, my
> > > machine simply sat there with no indication of any activity of any
> > > sort (no disk activity, no Internet activity, nothing). After about 7
> > > minutes, I clicked on OK. The installation immediately opened a
> > > window indicating it was ready to try to install NIV (opened the
> > > cipher window). I cancelled the installation.
> > >
> > > I looked at the /modules/texts/ directory to see what had been created
> > > this time since on prior install attempts there was no rawtext
> > > directory, only a ztext directory. This time there was a rawtext
> > > directory containing KJV. I then looked at the mods.d directory to
> > > see what .conf files had been created. There was one for KJV which
> > > pointed to /rawtext/ via DataPath. There was also one for NASB95. It
> > > contained the correct CipherKey and DataPath, but there was no NASB95
> > > directory in /rawtext/.
> > >
> > > I tried unzipping the NASB95 file I had previously downloaded from the
> > > beta section and ran the Setup.Exe. No NASB95 was created under
> > > /rawtext/.
> > >
> > > My conclusion is that the installation works just great using either
> > > InstallMgr or doing it manually by downloading, unzipping, and running
> > > Setup as long as the file is not a locked file. There appears to be a
> > > real problem, however, whenever a locked file is involved.
> > >
> > > Any help you can give me at this point would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 17:50:01 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:50:01 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
Message-ID: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org>
There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
least for now).
In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
see how to use it.
* FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
work.
* WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR sword.conf in
/usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
Usual place:
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/
file: clxSWORD.tar.gz
[KJV][Ephesians 5:2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and
hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
sweetsmelling savour.
Goodnight!
-Troy.
______________________________________
MainForm.pas:
unit MainFrm;
interface
uses
SysUtils, Types, Classes, Variants, QGraphics, QControls, QForms,
QDialogs,
QStdCtrls, QComCtrls, QExtCtrls, Sword;
type
TForm1 = class(TForm)
Panel1: TPanel;
Panel2: TPanel;
Panel3: TPanel;
TreeView1: TTreeView;
Button1: TButton;
Edit1: TEdit;
Label1: TLabel;
TextBrowser1: TTextBrowser;
procedure Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
procedure TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
procedure Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
private
procedure lookup();
public
{ Public declarations }
end;
var
Form1: TForm1;
mgr : SWMgr;
implementation
{$R *.xfm}
procedure TForm1.Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
begin
lookup();
end;
procedure TForm1.lookup();
var
module : SWModule;
node : TTreeNode;
begin
node := TreeView1.Selected;
if (node <> nil) then
begin
module := mgr.getModuleByName(node.Text);
if (module <> nil) then
begin
module.setKeyText(Edit1.Text);
TextBrowser1.Text :=
'' +
'' + module.getKeyText() + ' ' +
module.getRenderText() +
'';
Label1.Caption := ': ' + module.getKeyText();
end;
end;
end;
procedure TForm1.TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
begin
lookup();
end;
procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
begin
Application.Terminate;
end;
procedure TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
begin
mgr := SWMgr.Create;
end;
procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
var
root, node : TTreeNode;
module : SWModule;
modIt : ModIterator;
found : Boolean;
begin
modIt := mgr.getModulesIterator;
module := modIt.getValue;
while (module <> nil) do
begin
node := TreeView1.Items.GetFirstNode;
found := false;
while ((node <> nil) AND (NOT found)) do
begin
if (node.Text = module.getType) then
found := true
else node := node.getNextSibling;
end;
if (node = nil) then
node := TreeView1.Items.AddChild(TreeView1.TopItem,
module.GetType());
TreeView1.Items.AddChild(node, module.GetName());
modIt.Next;
module := modIt.getValue;
end;
end;
end.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 18:45:42 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 14 Jan 2002 13:45:42 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
In-Reply-To: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org>
References: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1011033943.12905.0.camel@office>
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 12:50, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
> exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
> least for now).
>
Troy,
I'm getting this error
flatapi.cpp: In function `long int SWMgr_getModulesIterator (long
int)':
flatapi.cpp:53: warning: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `ModItType'
with no type
> In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
>
> There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
> see how to use it.
>
> * FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
> you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
> experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
> Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
> the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
> of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
> work.
>
> * WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
> over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
> DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR sword.conf in
> /usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
>
> Usual place:
>
> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/
>
> file: clxSWORD.tar.gz
>
>
>
>
> [KJV][Ephesians 5:2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and
> hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
> sweetsmelling savour.
>
> Goodnight!
> -Troy.
>
>
> ______________________________________
> MainForm.pas:
>
> unit MainFrm;
>
> interface
>
> uses
> SysUtils, Types, Classes, Variants, QGraphics, QControls, QForms,
> QDialogs,
> QStdCtrls, QComCtrls, QExtCtrls, Sword;
>
> type
> TForm1 = class(TForm)
> Panel1: TPanel;
> Panel2: TPanel;
> Panel3: TPanel;
> TreeView1: TTreeView;
> Button1: TButton;
> Edit1: TEdit;
> Label1: TLabel;
> TextBrowser1: TTextBrowser;
> procedure Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> procedure TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> procedure Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> private
> procedure lookup();
> public
> { Public declarations }
> end;
>
> var
> Form1: TForm1;
> mgr : SWMgr;
>
> implementation
>
> {$R *.xfm}
>
> procedure TForm1.Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> begin
> lookup();
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.lookup();
> var
> module : SWModule;
> node : TTreeNode;
>
> begin
> node := TreeView1.Selected;
> if (node <> nil) then
> begin
> module := mgr.getModuleByName(node.Text);
> if (module <> nil) then
> begin
> module.setKeyText(Edit1.Text);
>
> TextBrowser1.Text :=
> '' +
> '' + module.getKeyText() + ' ' +
> module.getRenderText() +
> '';
>
> Label1.Caption := ': ' + module.getKeyText();
> end;
> end;
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> begin
> lookup();
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> begin
> Application.Terminate;
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> begin
> mgr := SWMgr.Create;
> end;
>
> procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> var
> root, node : TTreeNode;
> module : SWModule;
> modIt : ModIterator;
> found : Boolean;
>
> begin
> modIt := mgr.getModulesIterator;
> module := modIt.getValue;
> while (module <> nil) do
> begin
> node := TreeView1.Items.GetFirstNode;
> found := false;
> while ((node <> nil) AND (NOT found)) do
> begin
> if (node.Text = module.getType) then
> found := true
> else node := node.getNextSibling;
> end;
> if (node = nil) then
> node := TreeView1.Items.AddChild(TreeView1.TopItem,
> module.GetType());
>
> TreeView1.Items.AddChild(node, module.GetName());
>
> modIt.Next;
> module := modIt.getValue;
> end;
> end;
>
> end.
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 20:09:28 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:09:28 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
References: <3C431A49.9BCBD340@crosswire.org> <1011033943.12905.0.camel@office>
Message-ID: <3C433AF8.B2EAEBBD@crosswire.org>
Terry,
Sorry, just commited the latest header.
Also, there seems to be symlink errors in the tarball. You'll need to
point them to the current directory, NOT /usr/local/kylix/bin
-Troy.
Terry Biggs wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 12:50, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
> > exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
> > least for now).
> >
> Troy,
> I'm getting this error
>
> flatapi.cpp: In function `long int SWMgr_getModulesIterator (long
> int)':
> flatapi.cpp:53: warning: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `ModItType'
> with no type
>
> > In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
> >
> > There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
> > see how to use it.
> >
> > * FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
> > you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
> > experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
> > Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
> > the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
> > of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
> > work.
> >
> > * WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
> > over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
> > DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR sword.conf in
> > /usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
> >
> > Usual place:
> >
> > http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/
> >
> > file: clxSWORD.tar.gz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [KJV][Ephesians 5:2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and
> > hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
> > sweetsmelling savour.
> >
> > Goodnight!
> > -Troy.
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________
> > MainForm.pas:
> >
> > unit MainFrm;
> >
> > interface
> >
> > uses
> > SysUtils, Types, Classes, Variants, QGraphics, QControls, QForms,
> > QDialogs,
> > QStdCtrls, QComCtrls, QExtCtrls, Sword;
> >
> > type
> > TForm1 = class(TForm)
> > Panel1: TPanel;
> > Panel2: TPanel;
> > Panel3: TPanel;
> > TreeView1: TTreeView;
> > Button1: TButton;
> > Edit1: TEdit;
> > Label1: TLabel;
> > TextBrowser1: TTextBrowser;
> > procedure Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> > procedure TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> > procedure Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> > procedure FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> > procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> > private
> > procedure lookup();
> > public
> > { Public declarations }
> > end;
> >
> > var
> > Form1: TForm1;
> > mgr : SWMgr;
> >
> > implementation
> >
> > {$R *.xfm}
> >
> > procedure TForm1.Edit1Change(Sender: TObject);
> > begin
> > lookup();
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.lookup();
> > var
> > module : SWModule;
> > node : TTreeNode;
> >
> > begin
> > node := TreeView1.Selected;
> > if (node <> nil) then
> > begin
> > module := mgr.getModuleByName(node.Text);
> > if (module <> nil) then
> > begin
> > module.setKeyText(Edit1.Text);
> >
> > TextBrowser1.Text :=
> > '' +
> > '' + module.getKeyText() + ' ' +
> > module.getRenderText() +
> > '';
> >
> > Label1.Caption := ': ' + module.getKeyText();
> > end;
> > end;
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.TreeView1Change(Sender: TObject; Node: TTreeNode);
> > begin
> > lookup();
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
> > begin
> > Application.Terminate;
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
> > begin
> > mgr := SWMgr.Create;
> > end;
> >
> > procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
> > var
> > root, node : TTreeNode;
> > module : SWModule;
> > modIt : ModIterator;
> > found : Boolean;
> >
> > begin
> > modIt := mgr.getModulesIterator;
> > module := modIt.getValue;
> > while (module <> nil) do
> > begin
> > node := TreeView1.Items.GetFirstNode;
> > found := false;
> > while ((node <> nil) AND (NOT found)) do
> > begin
> > if (node.Text = module.getType) then
> > found := true
> > else node := node.getNextSibling;
> > end;
> > if (node = nil) then
> > node := TreeView1.Items.AddChild(TreeView1.TopItem,
> > module.GetType());
> >
> > TreeView1.Items.AddChild(node, module.GetName());
> >
> > modIt.Next;
> > module := modIt.getValue;
> > end;
> > end;
> >
> > end.
> >
> --
>
> Terry
>
> Rev 1:5
> "...Unto him that loved us, and washed
> us from our sins in his own blood."
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 20:14:49 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:14:49 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Kylix CLX bindings and test program
In-Reply-To: <3C4323BF.10771.1F38C47@localhost>
References: <3C4323BF.10771.1F38C47@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201142021.NAA30523@www.crosswire.org>
> There is a new 'bindings' subdirectory with a helper flatapi.cpp that
> exports a flat extern "C" interface the to SWORD API (or some of it, at
> least for now).
>
> In bindings/clx you will find Kylix / CLX bindings to the SWORD API.
>
> There is a test program under bindings/clx/test1 if anyone would like to
> see how to use it.
>
> * FINALLY: THERE IS A BINARY that I would love to hear the outcome, if
> you try it on your linux box. Please report on what distro you are
> experimenting. The tarball contains the Qt version that Kylix wants.
> Please, also let me know if your default Qt lib worked or if you needed
> the one in the tarball. I'll paste the code for this program at the end
> of this message so you can get an idea of how the clx sword components
> work.
>
> * WARNING: The libsword.so that is shipped with the tarball MUST BE USED
> over any older libsword.so. I just realized IT WAS BUILT WITH NEW
> DEFAULT ./configure OPTIONS WHICH MEANS IT IS LOOKING FOR
> sword.conf in
> /usr/local/etc/sword.conf Please adjust. Thanks again!
distro Debian testing/unstable
after a few twiddles it worked
the symlinks for libqt and libqtinf are wrong /usr/local/kylix2
need to link
libqtintf-6.5-qt2.3.so -> libqtintf-6.5.0-qt2.3.so
remove the libqt link, works ok with the system library
need to link libstdc++ as it is named differently on debian
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 -> /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.so
it had to be run as
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./ ./test1
(dunno why the script clxSWORD didn't work)
Looking great, great work :)
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 21:03:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Allen Foster)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:03:27 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Software Tester - Graphic Artwork
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graphic artwork that needs to be done I can do that as well. I have =
downloaded and installed the NIV text and it does not allow me to get in =
to see that. Is there a way that I can get the key for that.=20
Thanks,
Allen Foster
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 23:21:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Michael Rempel)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:21:23 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <02011221000506.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
> On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> >
> > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
> > apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
> > explain?
>
> I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
spell
> out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> messiah.
Your choices are your own, but why then do you concern yourself with this
group?
Shalom,
Michael
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 14 23:40:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Overcash)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:40:43 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID:
> > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> >
> > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
> spell
> > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> > messiah.
So, you are saying that Jesus is a God? And because Jewish and Christian
believe together in one true God, you are saying that Jesus is God? Just
curious, seemed very contradictory.
-Dave Overcash
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 06:25:11 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:25:11 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <20020114115253.BD0E932593E@mail.old-firestation.net> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote:
> On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
>> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
>>>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
>> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
>> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
>> explain?
> I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to spell
> out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> messiah.
Hmm... I guess you'd onkly be interested in OT modules then. I've always
wondered, who does someone in your situation identify as the beaten, bruised,
plain-looking and murdered but peaceful servant/saviour of Isaiah 53
(referred to in 1Peter 2:24, quoted here from the KJV):
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry
ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is
no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a
man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces
from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our
griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of
God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised
for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his
stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned
every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us
all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he
is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is
dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from
judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the
land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And
he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he
had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the
LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul
an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and
the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the
travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my
righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore
will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil
with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was
numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made
intercession for the transgressors.
>>> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument
>>> over this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
>> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as
>> facts, why has debate ensued?
> Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that
> particular custom was well known.
Ruthless, yes, but not totally, and politically he did have some clues.
Washing his hands of Jesus was a believable attempt at compromise, pacifying
one band the irate locals without a potentially offensive (to other locals)
direct act.
Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
Judaic circles?
It has the ring of one of those assumed-truth arguments, the ``but of
course'' or ``as everyone knows'' throwaway. I'd check, if I were you.
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 14:35:56 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:35:56 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse> <008a01c19d52$2f61c420$35d1a743@fed1.sdca.home.com>
Message-ID: <0201150935560B.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Monday 14 January 2002 18:21, you wrote:
> > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> > > >>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> > >
> > > Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew
> > > but apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold.
> > > Please explain?
> >
> > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
>
> spell
>
> > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> > messiah.
>
> Your choices are your own, but why then do you concern yourself with this
> group?
>
> Shalom,
>
> Michael
Uhhh, there are modules other than "nt". Hebrew even.
--
9:35am up 34 days, 17:24, 10 users, load average: 0.19, 0.20, 0.10
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 14:46:47 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:47 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <0201150946470C.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Monday 14 January 2002 18:40, you wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> > >
> > > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
> >
> > spell
> >
> > > out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is the
> > > messiah.
>
> So, you are saying that Jesus is a God? And because Jewish and Christian
> believe together in one true God, you are saying that Jesus is God? Just
> curious, seemed very contradictory.
No, I said a god. Little g as in false.
Jew's believe in HaShem and in HaShem only. The Almighty is one. He has never
been a man and never will since He does not change.
Most (not all) xians believe in some form of "trinity" and that jes-s was
G-d. Believing that any man was/is G-d is idolatry. Since the name jes-s has
become associated with a foreign xian god that was not known from the
beginning it is not said/written.
--
9:36am up 34 days, 17:25, 10 users, load average: 0.29, 0.22, 0.11
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 14:53:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:53:19 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net>
Message-ID: <0201150953190D.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 01:25, you wrote:
> On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote:
> > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote:
> >> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote:
> >>>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did.
> >>
> >> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but
> >> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please
> >> explain?
> >
> > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to
> > spell out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is
> > the messiah.
>
> Hmm... I guess you'd onkly be interested in OT modules then. I've always
> wondered, who does someone in your situation identify as the beaten,
> bruised, plain-looking and murdered but peaceful servant/saviour of Isaiah
> 53 (referred to in 1Peter 2:24, quoted here from the KJV):
The servant referred to is Israel. Notice that the servant is identified many
times in the text of Isaiah (ch 41, 44, 49, others).
> >>> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument
> >>> over this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts.
> >>
> >> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as
> >> facts, why has debate ensued?
> >
> > Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that
> > particular custom was well known.
>
> Ruthless, yes, but not totally, and politically he did have some clues.
> Washing his hands of Jesus was a believable attempt at compromise,
> pacifying one band the irate locals without a potentially offensive (to
> other locals) direct act.
It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of
releasing a prisoner on pesach.
> Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
> Judaic circles?
No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel.
> It has the ring of one of those assumed-truth arguments, the ``but of
> course'' or ``as everyone knows'' throwaway. I'd check, if I were you.
I have.
> Cheers; Leon
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 15:16:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:16:15 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201140802000A.17871@webserver.house.hse> <20020115062544.DBC51325776@mail.old-firestation.net> <0201150953190D.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <3C4447BF.70104@bitmead.com>
>
>
>It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of
>releasing a prisoner on pesach.
>
>>Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
>>Judaic circles?
>>
>
>No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel.
>
Oh, well if it was on TV it MUST be right.
Josephus records a possibly similar incident. A group of Assasins
kidnapped a scribe belonging to the retinue of the High Priest, and held
him hostage. This happened JUST BEFORE THE FESTIVAL. They then informed
the High Priest that they wanted him to persuade the governor to release
ten of their number who were being held prisoner. The governor, Albinus,
agrees, and the prisoners are released. (Josephus, 'Antiquities', XX 9.3).
Of course, this doesn't necessarily indicate the existence of a
regular custom during a festival, but it is possibly suggestive.
Similarly, there is a mention in the Mishnah (Pes. 8.6) that a
seder may be prepared for one 'whom they have promised to bring out of
prison' , and who presumably can't prepare one for himself. Some
scholars think this presupposes some kind of regular amnesty for
Pesach. So, while there isn't proof of a custom, neither is it
possible to assume that such a custom 'couldn't' have existed, or
'didn't' exist, or that the release of a prisoner by the Roman governor
at a festival period was never practiced.
And one may ask why, if there was no such custom, the writer of a
gospel should mention it, since it would be easily disproven by any of
those alive at the time who could have very simply refuted it.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 17:38:54 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:38:54 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <3C4447BF.70104@bitmead.com>
References: <003501c19b90$08c1a970$0f01a8c0@didymus> <0201150953190D.17871@webserver.house.hse> <3C4447BF.70104@bitmead.com>
Message-ID: <0201151238540G.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:16, you wrote:
> >It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of
> >releasing a prisoner on pesach.
> >
> >>Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain
> >>Judaic circles?
> >
> >No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel.
>
> Oh, well if it was on TV it MUST be right.
I think you know what i meant.
>
> Josephus records a possibly similar incident. A group of Assasins
> kidnapped a scribe belonging to the retinue of the High Priest, and held
> him hostage. This happened JUST BEFORE THE FESTIVAL. They then informed
> the High Priest that they wanted him to persuade the governor to release
> ten of their number who were being held prisoner. The governor, Albinus,
> agrees, and the prisoners are released. (Josephus, 'Antiquities', XX 9.3).
This happened according to Josephus around the time of 62-65ce. The sicarii
had kidnapped Eleazar and the whole ordeal is described as a kind of "hostage
trade".
> Of course, this doesn't necessarily indicate the existence of a
> regular custom during a festival, but it is possibly suggestive.
Nothing of the sort actually. I certainly wasn't the governors idea to
release the ten prisoners.
> Similarly, there is a mention in the Mishnah (Pes. 8.6) that a
> seder may be prepared for one 'whom they have promised to bring out of
> prison' , and who presumably can't prepare one for himself. Some
> scholars think this presupposes some kind of regular amnesty for
> Pesach. So, while there isn't proof of a custom, neither is it
> possible to assume that such a custom 'couldn't' have existed, or
> 'didn't' exist, or that the release of a prisoner by the Roman governor
> at a festival period was never practiced.
I will check this reference an let you know what it is refering to asap.
> And one may ask why, if there was no such custom, the writer of a
> gospel should mention it, since it would be easily disproven by any of
> those alive at the time who could have very simply refuted it.
How many years later was this written? By whom? For what audience?
I think we'd better move this discussion to the news server.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 18:27:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:27:13 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <0201151238540G.17871@webserver.house.hse>
Message-ID: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse
for theological debates:
> NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
So, that said, you have three options:
1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
anywhere you like that is not on this list.
2) Continue your discussion and be removed from this mailing list.
3) Unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list and save us the trouble of
removing you if you can't display the self control required to NOT press
that reply button.
Here's what you should be asking yourself before you press that send
button: "Does my message have anything to do with Sword development?"
If your answer is no, please don't send it. There are about 250 people
on this mailing list, none of whom signed up to hear your off-topic
discussion.
Please don't make us have to start removing people from the list or make
the list moderated.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 19:04:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (chris)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:04:14 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <0201151404140I.17871@webserver.house.hse>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 13:27, you wrote:
> Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse
>
> for theological debates:
> > NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
>
> argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
>
> So, that said, you have three options:
> 1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
> anywhere you like that is not on this list.
Done...
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 19:23:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Overcash)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:23:17 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Paul's epistles
In-Reply-To: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID:
Sorry Chris, I think they may have received your request after they sent
their messages as email servers tend to be slow in delivery.
-Dave O
************************************************
Okay guys, I specifically asked that my email NOT be used as an excuse
for theological debates:
> NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
So, that said, you have three options:
1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
anywhere you like that is not on this list.
2) Continue your discussion and be removed from this mailing list.
3) Unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list and save us the trouble of
removing you if you can't display the self control required to NOT press
that reply button.
Here's what you should be asking yourself before you press that send
button: "Does my message have anything to do with Sword development?"
If your answer is no, please don't send it. There are about 250 people
on this mailing list, none of whom signed up to hear your off-topic
discussion.
Please don't make us have to start removing people from the list or make
the list moderated.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 15 20:58:22 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:58:22 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Coptic font
Message-ID: <000c01c19e07$5ec08700$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Do any of you know of a Unicode font with Coptic-style glyphs for
Greek/Coptic? (Not one that simply covers the Greek/Coptic range, since
most fonts do this using Greek-style glyphs.)
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 00:10:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:10:18 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] [possibly OT, certainly META] fireside
In-Reply-To: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
References: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <20020116001100.5333D325220@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 02:27, Chris Little wrote:
>> NB: any persons seeing this as an invitation to theological debate may
>> argue amongst themselves at news://crosswire.org/crosswire.fireside.
> So, that said, you have three options:
> 1) Move your discussion to crosswire.fireside, private email, or
> anywhere you like that is not on this list.
> 2) Continue your discussion and be removed from this mailing list.
> 3) Unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list and save us the trouble of
> removing you if you can't display the self control required to NOT press
> that reply button.
The bug in this is that generally only one side of a debate goes to fireside,
which is then left to languish unless two people of similar views settle down
to discussing fine points.
IMHO there would be a lot more value in the fireside discussions if they were
also accessible as a mailing list, then potential participants would not need
to acquire a new toolset or at least skillset in order to continue working
through differences together.
I find I generally (not always) get far more value from disagreements between
people of widely divergent views than from people patting each other on the
back, provided that those people are committed enough to what they're saying
to hang around and address the answers to their broadcasts.
If nothing else, fireside could be the foundation of a FAQ-ish module, a
collection of more-or-less-lay people's comments on and in relation to
specific Bible texts.
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 02:45:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:45:37 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
Message-ID: <000601c19e37$e0b2ab00$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Four new modules have been released publicly:
ACV (A Conservative Version)
ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
Plus an updated version of:
RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
necessary):
RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
RusGN (Russian NT)
RusWOL (Russian NT)
RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
subscribers.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 04:03:20 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (J. Patrick Smith)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:03:20 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Commandline Bible Reader?
Message-ID:
First, I'd like to thank Chris Little for ending the "To Jesus or not to
Jes-s" debate... I was just about to opt out of the mailing list before I'd
even mailed a message to say "Hi."
Now on to my message:
Hi.
I'm a linux user looking to get my feet wet with a little programing. I
honestly have very little experience in the field, but this looked like a
good project to contribute something to, and I have long wanted to write
software.
Is there currently a project to produce a command-line only bible reader
based on the sword libraries? If there is, can some one point me to the
source so I can have a look?
Thanks.
- Patrick Smith
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 04:09:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Franklin Bratcher)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:09:43 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
References: <000601c19e37$e0b2ab00$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <008201c19e43$a0ec6950$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized greek text
modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek texts for my eggdrop.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Little"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:45 PM
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
> Four new modules have been released publicly:
>
> ACV (A Conservative Version)
> ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
> ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
> ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
>
> Plus an updated version of:
>
> RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
>
>
>
> Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
> been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
> of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
> necessary):
>
> RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
> RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
> RusGN (Russian NT)
> RusWOL (Russian NT)
> RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
>
> UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
> UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
>
> CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
>
> The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
> full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
> rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
>
> Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
> subscribers.
>
> --Chris
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 05:20:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:20:32 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <008201c19e43$a0ec6950$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
Message-ID: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
> -----Original Message-----
> speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> texts for my eggdrop.
No, but you can use the LXX with the Basic Latin transliteration filter
turned on to achieve the same effect. I'll have this working with
Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 06:33:41 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:33:41 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Commandline Bible Reader?
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000101c19e57$bd092100$0200000a@DIASPORA>
> Is there currently a project to produce a command-line only
> bible reader
> based on the sword libraries? If there is, can some one point
> me to the
> source so I can have a look?
Welcome to the project Patrick. We have a couple of command-line tools
to try.
The diatheke homepage is at http://www.crosswire.org/sword/diatheke but
the version in CVS is much more up to date. We use it for Eggdrop, CGI,
SOAP, etc. interfaces.
There's also irenaeus at http://sourceforge.net/projects/irenaeus/,
which is primarily an ncurses frontend but has a command line interface
too I believe. Unfortunately it hasn't been maintained in about a year.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 07:22:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:22:05 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <000601c19e37$e0b2ab00$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <000d01c19e5e$803ed380$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
What is "A Conservative Version?" Do you have any info on it?
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:46 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
>
>
> Four new modules have been released publicly:
>
> ACV (A Conservative Version)
> ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
> ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
> ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
>
> Plus an updated version of:
>
> RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
>
>
>
> Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
> been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
> of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
> necessary):
>
> RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
> RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
> RusGN (Russian NT)
> RusWOL (Russian NT)
> RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
>
> UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
> UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
>
> CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
>
> The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
> full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
> rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
>
> Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
> subscribers.
>
> --Chris
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 08:15:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Barry Drake)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:15:16 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] [possibly OT, certainly META] fireside
In-Reply-To: <20020116001100.5333D325220@mail.old-firestation.net>
References: <000301c19df2$40a9c980$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Message-ID: <3C453694.14306.14541A@localhost>
Hi everybody .....
On 16 Jan 2002 at 8:10, Leon Brooks wrote:
> IMHO there would be a lot more value in the fireside discussions if they
> were also accessible as a mailing list
Please can this happen? The last two off-topic threads were ones I'd have
loved to join in, but I quite agree with the policy - this list ought to be
confined to developmental issues. And personally I find newsgroups too
cumbersome to use for lively discussion.
God bless,
Barry
>From Barry Drake (The Revd - minister of the Arnold and the Netherfield
United
Reformed Churches, Nottingham - see http://www.arnold-urc.supanet.com for
our
church homepages).
Replies - b.drake@ntlworld.com
Fax: 0705 069 8746
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 15:08:25 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:08:25 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <000d01c19e5e$803ed380$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c19e9f$a57b6280$a7830e18@mcity1.la.home.com>
Nevermind, I will answer my own question. :)
The info states:
A Conservative Version (ACV) was translated by Dr. Walter L. Porter. The ACV
is in the public domain. The translation can be accessed online at
http://www.stillvoices.org. This copy of the ACV text came from there.
If you want a copy of the ACV, contact Joshua Holman at hoshie@hotpop.com.
You have to poke around the guys web site for a while, but if you do you
will find the article
http://www.stillvoices.org/Essays/Search4Word.asp
It looks like his ACV is his corrections to the ASV based upon his use of
bibleWorks and the built in lexicons in that program.
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:22 AM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: RE: [sword-devel] New modules
>
>
>
> What is "A Conservative Version?" Do you have any info on it?
>
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:46 PM
> > To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> > Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
> >
> >
> > Four new modules have been released publicly:
> >
> > ACV (A Conservative Version)
> > ItaDio (Italian Diodati)
> > ItaRive (Italian Riveduta)
> > ChiGUs (Chinese Glory Union (Simplified))
> >
> > Plus an updated version of:
> >
> > RusMakarij (The Pentateuch of Moses in Russian)
> >
> >
> >
> > Additionally, 5 Russian, 2 Ukrainian, and one Coptic translation have
> > been posted in the Beta area, pending approval for release by the author
> > of the program from which they were taken (and copyright holders, when
> > necessary):
> >
> > RusLoot (Russian Gospels)
> > RusSon (Russian Pentateuch)
> > RusGN (Russian NT)
> > RusWOL (Russian NT)
> > RusNWT (Russian NWT NT)
> >
> > UkrUBS (Ukrainian NT)
> > UkrKulish (Ukrainian NT)
> >
> > CopSahHorner (Horner's Sahidic Coptic NT)
> >
> > The Coptic really needs a new font. It will work reasonably well with a
> > full Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS or Code2000, but the glyphs are
> > rendered in Greek style, not Coptic. :(
> >
> > Interesting bit of trivia... Sword modules now outnumber sword-devel
> > subscribers.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 17:42:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Franklin Bratcher)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:42:36 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
References: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <002401c19eb5$2fbb2e70$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Little"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] New modules
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> > greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> > texts for my eggdrop.
>
> No, but you can use the LXX with the Basic Latin transliteration filter
> turned on to achieve the same effect. I'll have this working with
> Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
>
> --Chris
Are you sure? I tried that on the command line on a greek text and it still
came out a bunch of unicode.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 19:03:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:03:32 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <002401c19eb5$2fbb2e70$3df8fea9@thinkkrmrxknsf>
Message-ID: <000f01c19ec0$7dc6e220$0f01a8c0@didymus>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old
> romanized greek
> > > text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> texts for my
> > > eggdrop.
> >
> > No, but you can use the LXX with the Basic Latin transliteration
> > filter turned on to achieve the same effect. I'll have
> this working
> > with Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
>
> Are you sure? I tried that on the command line on a greek
> text and it still came out a bunch of unicode.
I'm mostly sure. :) You will need to compile Sword with ICU support
(and install icu-sword from CVS). I'm not certain that everything is
working right now, but I think it is. In any case, I'll get it working
before 1.5.3 ships.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 16 21:53:12 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:53:12 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
References: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <200201162153.g0GLrC002065@jerrykreps.athome>
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 23:20, you wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> > greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> > texts for my eggdrop.
>
> No, but you can use the LXX with the
"Basic Latin transliteration filter turned on " <--- What's this? I
don't find a menu option for 'filters' ???
JLK
>to achieve the same effect. I'll have this
> working with Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
>
> --Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 17 01:21:46 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joshua Holman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:21:46 -1000
Subject: [sword-devel] B.W. Johnson's People's New Testament: Philemon missing!
Message-ID: <004901c19ef5$56c82d20$714a4140@computer>
Dear friends,
Who in the SWORD project can I send B.W. Johnson's Commentary on Philemon
to? It's part of the People's New Testament, and it's not in the current
build of the module.
Joshua Holman
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 17 01:50:45 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:50:45 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] New modules
In-Reply-To: <200201162153.g0GLrC002065@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <000001c19e4d$8590e320$0200000a@DIASPORA> <200201162153.g0GLrC002065@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <200201170150.g0H1oj003264@jerrykreps.athome>
Duh!
Never mind..
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 15:53, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 January 2002 23:20, you wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > speaking of modules, is there anyway to get the old romanized
> > > greek text modules like the lxxx? i need some plaintext greek
> > > texts for my eggdrop.
> >
> > No, but you can use the LXX with the
>
> "Basic Latin transliteration filter turned on " <--- What's this?
> I don't find a menu option for 'filters' ???
> JLK
>
> >to achieve the same effect. I'll have this
> > working with Diatheke/TCL by the time 1.5.3 ships.
> >
> > --Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 02:10:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Wilson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:10:06 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To: <200201170150.g0H1oj003264@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID:
I posted a bug report on the SourceForge, but wasn't sure if it would be
sent out or not. I decided to send a note myself. In addition, I have found
two more modules that trap on installation and crash the Install Manager.
The suspect modules are:
[Gill] John Gill's Expositor (locked)
[CathEn] The Catholic Encyclopedia (unlocked)
[ISBE] International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (unlocked)
The Install Manager crashes immediately after selecting Install. The remote
site that I have been installing from is ftp.sword.cx, Repository Directory,
/pub/sword/betaraw
My system is a 450 Mhz running MS Win Me. I get the following message on the
BSOD:
Filename: VWIN32 (05) + 000012D0 ERROR : 0E : 0028 : C02A44A8
Steve Wilson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 02:58:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:58:19 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000401c19fcb$fc2846c0$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Grab the latest InstallMgr beta from
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/Ins
tallMgr.exe . This should fix the CathEn and ISBE errors. I'm not
aware of the Gill module having ever caused a problem, so let us know if
that one still isn't working. And if I'm wrong in assuming you aren't
using the latest beta, let us know that too, of course. :) But the
crashes caused by downloading RawLD4 modules (like CathEn and ISBE) was
the main reason for updating InstallMgr.
--Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Steve Wilson
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:10 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
>
>
>
> I posted a bug report on the SourceForge, but wasn't sure if
> it would be sent out or not. I decided to send a note myself.
> In addition, I have found two more modules that trap on
> installation and crash the Install Manager. The suspect modules are:
>
> [Gill] John Gill's Expositor (locked)
> [CathEn] The Catholic Encyclopedia (unlocked)
> [ISBE] International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (unlocked)
>
> The Install Manager crashes immediately after selecting
> Install. The remote site that I have been installing from is
ftp.sword.cx, Repository Directory, /pub/sword/betaraw
My system is a 450 Mhz running MS Win Me. I get the following message on
the
BSOD:
Filename: VWIN32 (05) + 000012D0 ERROR : 0E : 0028 : C02A44A8
Steve Wilson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 03:05:29 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:05:29 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] B.W. Johnson's People's New Testament: Philemon missing!
In-Reply-To: <004901c19ef5$56c82d20$714a4140@computer>
Message-ID: <000501c19fcc$fc4a0a20$0200000a@DIASPORA>
I'll fix this in early February, as soon as I get back from the OSIS
meeting in Dallas. I've got the data here, I just need to reformat the
Philemon section, add it to the rest, and reprocess the source doc.
--Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Holman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:22 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] B.W. Johnson's People's New Testament:
> Philemon missing!
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Who in the SWORD project can I send B.W. Johnson's Commentary
> on Philemon to? It's part of the People's New Testament, and
> it's not in the current build of the module.
>
> Joshua Holman
>
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 03:28:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Steve Wilson)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:28:05 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To: <000401c19fcb$fc2846c0$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID:
Chris, Thanks for the info.
I think I have found the problem with the Gill module. The gill[1].conf has
the following:
[Gill]
DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/gill/
ModDrv=RawCom
SourceType=GBF
CipherKey=
Lang=en
Version=1.1
History_1.1=enciphered module
Description=John Gill's Expositor
There is no 'rawcom' directory that I see. There is a 'raw' directory. This
may very well be the problem, of course I guessing here.
Steve Wilson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
[mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:58 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
Grab the latest InstallMgr beta from
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/Ins
tallMgr.exe . This should fix the CathEn and ISBE errors. I'm not
aware of the Gill module having ever caused a problem, so let us know if
that one still isn't working. And if I'm wrong in assuming you aren't
using the latest beta, let us know that too, of course. :) But the
crashes caused by downloading RawLD4 modules (like CathEn and ISBE) was
the main reason for updating InstallMgr.
--Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Steve Wilson
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:10 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
>
>
>
> I posted a bug report on the SourceForge, but wasn't sure if
> it would be sent out or not. I decided to send a note myself.
> In addition, I have found two more modules that trap on
> installation and crash the Install Manager. The suspect modules are:
>
> [Gill] John Gill's Expositor (locked)
> [CathEn] The Catholic Encyclopedia (unlocked)
> [ISBE] International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (unlocked)
>
> The Install Manager crashes immediately after selecting
> Install. The remote site that I have been installing from is
ftp.sword.cx, Repository Directory, /pub/sword/betaraw
My system is a 450 Mhz running MS Win Me. I get the following message on
the
BSOD:
Filename: VWIN32 (05) + 000012D0 ERROR : 0E : 0028 : C02A44A8
Steve Wilson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 04:04:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:04:05 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Install Manager Traps on Install
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000601c19fd5$2bd64e40$0200000a@DIASPORA>
> There is no 'rawcom' directory that I see. There is a 'raw'
> directory. This may very well be the problem, of course I
> guessing here.
Yep, you were right. There was just the raw directory with the Gill
files inside. I moved them into rawcom/gill, where the should have
been. Thanks for pointing that out.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 12:44:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (W. Simpson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:44:18 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
References: <000601c19fd5$2bd64e40$0200000a@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <004401c1a01d$d9e8e860$c2c568d5@tinypc>
Hi,
This may not be the right place to post this as, strictly speaking, this
e-mail isn't about The Sword. However, I think this is in keeping with the
'ethos' of the Sword Project, so bear with me :-)
I should like RISC OS users to be able to make use of the Bible texts freely
available for download at
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles. It is by
far the largest selection of translations in one place that I have seen
anywhere!
One suggestion I have heard from a Sword developer is to port The Sword to
RISC OS. I'm unable to do that (perhaps there are other RISC OS programmers
who might be able to, but are all too busy) .
I do have a RISC OS conversion tool which can put the verse numbers back
into the text (making it readable again), so it can be read in a text editor
or using a RISC OS Bible program, but some of the modules appear to deviate
from the architecture of, say, the KJV module. The RSV is one that comes to
mind - it isn't "locked", but it appears encrypted, and its contents appear
in the ZTEXT folder as opposed to the RAWTEXT folder. I presume it is
compressed.
It's modules like this one that cause problems. Could someone enlighten me
on how to decompress them (simpson.general@ntlworld.com), or is it vastly
difficult?
I suppose, in the end, you could say "tough, just use the Sword", and that's
fair enough, but I'm just asking the question all the same ;-) - I don't
want to distract anyone, but if someone has a few ideas they think might
help, I'd be interested to hear them.
Many Thanks,
W.Simpson
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 14:53:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:53:48 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
Message-ID: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
According to this bug on sourceforge
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&group_i
d=9516&atid=109516
gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would be best to
rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr, rawstr4.
It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not convinced
this is the most intuitive name it could be.
getText is another option though that would be very prone to typos.
Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
Maybe readtext describes what it does better, reading the text into a
provided buffer rather than returning it?
(fwiw I'd go for readtext)
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 15:49:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:49:05 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
In-Reply-To: <004401c1a01d$d9e8e860$c2c568d5@tinypc>
Message-ID: <001301c1a037$a8f3a5f0$0f01a8c0@didymus>
Hi,
I think you answered yourself, actually. The best answer is "tough,
just use Sword". And that shouldn't be too difficult, if RISC OS has
GNU tools (like gmake and gcc). About all you should need to do is
modify the Makefile.cfg file to set GNUBIGENDIAN as the target machine
(I think that's an option, but maybe only in the CVS version) and issue
a make.
Failing that, you will have to use code from Sword, which is probably
more difficult. Specifically, you need the ZText class and everything
it inherits and imports.
Maybe someone else has a better answer, if there's another way, but I'm
doubtful. :) It's not even a good idea to assume the RawText modules
are ordered, because some of them may not be.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 16:21:31 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:21:31 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
In-Reply-To: <004401c1a01d$d9e8e860$c2c568d5@tinypc>
Message-ID: <3C484B8B.5034.5AF8E40@localhost>
I don't know how good it is but the RISCOS gcc is here
http://hard-mofo.dsvr.net/gcc/. It and zlib (www.zlib.org) are all you will need to compile
sword
I'm cc'ing a friend that I think still has a RISCOS machine to see if he has used it at all
or can help or has any other ideas. Steve?
If it would help and I get time I might try out the gccsdk that looks as though it would
work for cross-compiling on linux.
It would be great to get sword working on another OS :) (ok, so it would still need
someone to write a RISCOS frontend but it would be a good start).
Regards,
Daniel
On 18 Jan 2002 at 12:44, W. Simpson sent forth the message:
> Hi,
>
> This may not be the right place to post this as, strictly speaking, this
> e-mail isn't about The Sword. However, I think this is in keeping with the
> 'ethos' of the Sword Project, so bear with me :-)
>
> I should like RISC OS users to be able to make use of the Bible texts freely
> available for download at
> http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles. It is by
> far the largest selection of translations in one place that I have seen
> anywhere!
>
> One suggestion I have heard from a Sword developer is to port The Sword to
> RISC OS. I'm unable to do that (perhaps there are other RISC OS programmers
> who might be able to, but are all too busy) .
>
> I do have a RISC OS conversion tool which can put the verse numbers back
> into the text (making it readable again), so it can be read in a text editor
> or using a RISC OS Bible program, but some of the modules appear to deviate
> from the architecture of, say, the KJV module. The RSV is one that comes to
> mind - it isn't "locked", but it appears encrypted, and its contents appear
> in the ZTEXT folder as opposed to the RAWTEXT folder. I presume it is
> compressed.
>
> It's modules like this one that cause problems. Could someone enlighten me
> on how to decompress them (simpson.general@ntlworld.com), or is it vastly
> difficult?
>
> I suppose, in the end, you could say "tough, just use the Sword", and that's
> fair enough, but I'm just asking the question all the same ;-) - I don't
> want to distract anyone, but if someone has a few ideas they think might
> help, I'd be interested to hear them.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> W.Simpson
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 22:15:08 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Aivo_Pr=FCkk?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:15:08 -0200 (GMT+2)
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
Message-ID:
18.1.2002 Daniel Glassey wrote:
>>According to this bug on sourceforge
>>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&group_i
>>d=9516&atid=109516
>>
>>gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
>>src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would be best to
>>rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr, rawstr4.
>>
>>It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not convinced
>>this is the most intuitive name it could be.
Thank You!
I renamed gettext to swgettext, and build was successful.
But what problem is, when I can't see any texts with frontend
programs(BibleTime,GnimeSword)? Only in bible modules are verse numbers
shown, and book information too as tooltips. So modules are loaded, but no
body text.
aivo.
*********************************
Aivo Prükk
URL: http://aivo.bik.ee
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 18 22:44:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:44:24 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201182244.g0IMiOT01762@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 18 January 2002 08:53, you wrote:
> According to this bug on sourceforge
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&gro
>up_i d=9516&atid=109516
>
> gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
> src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would
> be best to rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr,
> rawstr4.
Why design to a specific distro, or against one?
>
> It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not
> convinced this is the most intuitive name it could be.
>
> getText is another option though that would be very prone to typos.
> Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
These approaches can lead to confusion...
Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
Also, I notice that in 11 source files and 6 headers 'extern "C" '
wraps are being used so g++ won't mangle the C code being wrapped.
Why not rewrite the C code so it is C++ compliant?
JLK
> Maybe readtext describes what it does better, reading the text into
> a provided buffer rather than returning it?
>
> (fwiw I'd go for readtext)
>
> Daniel
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 19 14:50:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (W. Simpson)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:50:18 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
References:
Message-ID: <001a01c1a0f8$9e6f1c60$aac668d5@tinypc>
In reply to Chris Little:
Hi,
>> Like I said, I can't port anything. Whether or not I can solicit someone
to
>> do the work is another matter. One particular objection I see is that
>> RISC OS prides itself on its own distinctive style, expecting very
different
>> desktop behaviour from its programs than that of something built for
>> windows. I can't see Sword working acceptably in a RISC OS environment,
>> (though I know very little about porting anything to anywhere).
>Sword itself is just a library. Once you have that compiled, you could
>just call it and write whatever exporter or viewer you like.
I see.
>> Hmmm, I was hoping there might be some relatively simple decompression
>> algorithm I could apply to each file.
>They are compressed in a simple decompression algorithm, namely zip. But
>it isn't simply zipped as a whole, we compress blocks (chapters or books)
>and place them in a file, then index the location in a second file.
Which would account for why the RSV appears encrypted having been
extracted from its ZIP file, and contains more files than the KJV module.
RSV:
nt.bzs
nt.bzc
nt
ot.bzs
ot.bzv
ot
rsv.sgm
Yes, I see what you mean. It isn't a perfectly straightforward decompression
of each file. All the same, if anyone is willing to attach the relevant
pieces of source code to an e-mail for me (or someone else) to examine now
or in the future, with any other useful remarks, I would be grateful.
Thank you all once again :-)
Shalom,
W.Simpson
www.logosword.co.uk
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 19 21:50:26 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Todd Pedlar)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:50:26 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
Message-ID: <004b01c1a133$4e73a3d0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
The Geneva notes seem to be badly formatted. Does
anyone know what might cause this? By 'badly formatted'
I mean that it seems that there are hard-coded spaces
in words where no space should be placed :) also, there
are obvious hard coded double spaces between words as
if there is an intended hard return.
I'd like to help on fixing this, but don't know if anyone
is already working on it, or if anyone's seen the issue.
Todd
PS - also, does anyone have Gill's expositor working? Mine
won't install - or rather, it installs, but even though my CONF
files correctly point to ./rawcom/, I don't get a Gill tab.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 11:36:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Stephen Denne)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:36:15 +1300
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
In-Reply-To: <004b01c1a133$4e73a3d0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
Message-ID:
> The Geneva notes seem to be badly formatted.
I hadn't seen these problems, and can't find any with a quick look - do you
have some references?
I don't like the appearance of the footnote letters as normal letters - this
isn't what you are referring to is it?
I'm not sure how much effort it is worth spending tidying up this module
until after we move to a html renderer. (Are we going to do such a thing?
Does anyone know when? Are there things that can be done to this module that
will be of benefit both now, and when we use an html renderer?)
> PS - also, does anyone have Gill's expositor working? Mine
> won't install - or rather, it installs, but even though my CONF
> files correctly point to ./rawcom/, I don't get a Gill tab.
Mine is showing up - it was a while ago that I downloaded it, but the
DataPath in my .conf file is:
DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/gill/
The current windows program doesn't show enciphered modules that do not have
the CipherKey entered (It does list it in the "Hide/Show modules" window
though.)
Stephen.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 12:36:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:36:13 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Problem with SAOA module
Message-ID: <200201201439.HAA04580@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
I have a problem with the SAOA module (BTW, nice and interesting module).
The first entry shown in the entry list of BibleTime is "ASS". But if I open
the module for the first time BibleTime displays the module heading entry
(normally blank entry).
This heading entry is the entry "ANT", which does not occur in the list so I
think somethings wrong with the index file of the SAOA module.
BTW, the text of the SAOA module mentiones images of the animals at some
places. Are these images available? Will the work with Sword in the future?
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 18:13:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Todd Pedlar)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:13:16 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
References:
Message-ID: <002901c1a1de$2259b2c0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Denne
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
> > The Geneva notes seem to be badly formatted.
>
> I hadn't seen these problems, and can't find any with a quick look - do
you
> have some references?
>
> I don't like the appearance of the footnote letters as normal letters -
this
> isn't what you are referring to is it?
>
> I'm not sure how much effort it is worth spending tidying up this module
> until after we move to a html renderer.
Maybe so. There is the problem with the footnotes - they're
pretty awful as single letters set apart only by spaces.
The other thing, though, is I do find that it seems to have
hardcoded returns in the text... such that if you open up
the commentary window wider, sometimes you get the
paragraphs to line up reasonably so that there are none
of what appear to be double and triple spaces between
words.
> (Are we going to do such a thing?
> Does anyone know when? Are there things that can be done to this module
that
> will be of benefit both now, and when we use an html renderer?)
> > PS - also, does anyone have Gill's expositor working? Mine
> > won't install - or rather, it installs, but even though my CONF
> > files correctly point to ./rawcom/, I don't get a Gill tab.
>
> Mine is showing up - it was a while ago that I downloaded it, but the
> DataPath in my .conf file is:
> DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/gill/
>
> The current windows program doesn't show enciphered modules that do not
have
> the CipherKey entered (It does list it in the "Hide/Show modules" window
> though.)
Man! I'm sure that's what it is. I never entered the unlock.
Now if only I can find that file with the keys in it. :(
Todd
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 20 23:03:40 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:03:40 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
Message-ID:
Hello everyone,
This is just a brief message to announce the launch of the ChristianSource
Free Software and Linux Users Group, a mailing list for Christian Linux and
Free Software enthusiasts. If you would like to learn more about CS-FSLUG,
please take a look at http://cs.uninetsolutions.com .
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:34:53 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Flemming Vilster)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:34:53 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <005701c1a213$74208090$0df0fea9@asus>
downloading and installing locked modules:
> On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> previously).
>
> The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
>
I have now been able to download and installing locked modules from the ftp site, and they appear
on the program, but the text is unreadable. How do I get access to the 'supersecret'
file to get hold on the unlock code??
Flemming
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:43:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:43:06 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug:
In-Reply-To: <005701c1a213$74208090$0df0fea9@asus>
References: <3C41A5F7.8030.ED614@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184026.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Hi, Flemming.
I'm new enough at this that I'm not sure who can authorize what, so I'll
simply tell you what I did to get the file. I sent a note to the owner of
the distribution list and asked how to get it. I was sent back a reply
with the URL to the file.
Good luck with your testing.
Blessings on you as you seek to serve our LORD.
At 01:34 AM 1/21/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>downloading and installing locked modules:
>
> > On 12 Jan 2002, at 11:51, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
>
>Since I can not get a good install of any locked file, I uninstalled
> > the program and started from scratch. This time I used the InstallMgr
> > to download and install add-in modules. I selected a number of Bible
> > translations, both locked and unlocked as well as some commentaries.
> > I added the KJV w/Strong's numbers (something I had not done
> > previously).
> >
> > The installation went smoothly until it hit NASB95; KJV w/Strong's had
> > already completed installing. When it encountered NASB95, a box
> > opened with the message that the version appeared to be ciphered. I
> > entered the lock code with a cut-and-paste from the supersecret file.
> >
>I have now been able to download and installing locked modules from the
>ftp site, and they appear
>on the program, but the text is unreadable. How do I get access to the
>'supersecret'
>file to get hold on the unlock code??
>
>Flemming
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:49:09 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Dan Blake)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:49:09 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Geneva notes / Gill's Expositor
References: <002901c1a1de$2259b2c0$49ec5c18@twcny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c1a215$70871b40$0e00a8c0@tcdr.net>
> Now if only I can find that file with the keys in it. :(
I have the same problem.
I needed to reinstall my computer and have misplaced the file with the keys
in it and I haven't been able to find it on the website anymore. Can anyone
please send me this file or let me know where to get it?
Thanks
Daniel Blake
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 00:53:59 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:53:59 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Tim,
I have gone to the site and read the Statement of Faith. As an
evangelical, conservative Christian (and ordained Southern Baptist
minister) I have absolutely no problems with it.
I do have a question, however. I have not taken the plunge and tried out
Linux, though I have thought very seriously about it; my "tentmaking" job
is that of IT Director for the Voice of the Martyrs. When you talk about
"Free Software," are you referring to software that only runs on Linux or
are you referring to software that runs on Windows?
At 05:03 PM 1/20/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
> This is just a brief message to announce the launch of the ChristianSource
>Free Software and Linux Users Group, a mailing list for Christian Linux and
>Free Software enthusiasts. If you would like to learn more about CS-FSLUG,
>please take a look at http://cs.uninetsolutions.com .
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 01:18:39 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:18:39 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID:
Hello Lloyd,
> I do have a question, however. I have not taken the plunge and tried out
> Linux, though I have thought very seriously about it; my "tentmaking" job
> is that of IT Director for the Voice of the Martyrs. When you talk about
> "Free Software," are you referring to software that only runs on Linux or
> are you referring to software that runs on Windows?
Free Software ("open source") is a reference to
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html which includes Windows software
such as The Sword Project for Windows, however our main focus is on Linux. As
long as you are interested in Linux anyway though (even though you haven't
"taken the plunge"), and going by your membership on Sword-devel, free
software in Windows too, you probably would enjoy the list.
We'd be glad to have you. :-)
-Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 08:02:06 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Markus Peuhkuri)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:02:06 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [sword-devel] locales.d/fi.conf with some questions
Message-ID: <200201210802.g0L826T22434@keskus.tct.hut.fi>
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Here is attached locale for Finnish; but I have some questions.
The book names are according 1992 version of Finnish Bible and there
are some differences to 1933,1938 version of "Pyhä Raamattu" (yes,
there is some 8bit>7bit conversion error at list: in 7bit HTML it
should read "Pyhä Raamattu"; the Old Testament was taken in use
in 1933, the New Testament 1938). For example:
- Song of Solomon is "Laulujen Laulu" in 1992 version and "Korkea
Veisu" (Kork.v) in 1933 version.
- There is no prefix "Paavalin" (Paulus') in letters to
Romans--Philemon in 1992 version.
There may be other differences also which I do not remember anymore.
How these differences should be marked in locales?
Another question is about converting Bible (the 1992 version). The
1992 version is formated as running text i.e. it has multi-verse
paragraphs (with breaks possibly in middle of verse), poems (and
songs) do have line structure and there are informative headings
(again possibly in middle of verse). How these should be handled in
conversion?
The 1992 version has some copyright issues, but I think they are not a
big problem as in 1994 we got right to publish text in HTML format for
personal study, this is mainly an extension. And in worst case, we
can just provide conversion script and one downloads the HTML version
by oneself and runs the converter.
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[Text]
Genesis=Ensimmäinen Mooseksen kirja
Exodus=Toinen Mooseksen kirja
Leviticus=Kolmas Mooseksen kirja
Numbers=Neljäs Mooseksen kirja
Deuteronomy=Viides Mooseksen kirja
Joshua=Joosuan kirja
Judges=Tuomarien kirja
Ruth=Ruutin kirja
I Samuel=Ensimmäinen Samuelin kirja
II Samuel=Toinen Samuelin kirja
I Kings=Ensimmäinen kuninkaiden kirja
II Kings=Toinen kuninkaiden kirja
I Chronicles=Ensimmäinen aikakirja
II Chronicles=Toinen aikakirja
Ezra=Esran kirja
Nehemiah=Nehemian kirja
Esther=Esterin kirja
Job=Jobin kirja
Psalms=Psalmien kirja
Proverbs=Sananlaskujen kirja
Ecclesiastes=Saarnaajan kirja
Song of Solomon=Laulujen kirja
Isaiah=Jesajan kirja
Jeremiah=Jeremian kirja
Lamentations=Valitusvirret
Ezekiel=Hesekielin kirja
Daniel=Danielin kirja
Hosea=Hoosean kirja
Joel=Joelin kirja
Amos=Aamoksen kirja
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Jonah=Joonan kirja
Micah=Miikan kirja
Nahum=Nahumin kirja
Habakkuk=Habakukin kirja
Zephaniah=Sefanjan kirja
Haggai=Haggain kirja
Zechariah=Sakarjan kirja
Malachi=Malakian kirja
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Mark=Evankeliumi Markuksen mukaan
Luke=Evankeliumi Luukkaan mukaan
John=Evankeliumi Johanneksen mukaan
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II Thessalonians=Toinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
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II Timothy=Toinen kirje Timoteukselle
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I Peter=Ensimmäinen Pietarin kirje
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II John=Toinen Johanneksen kirje
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1 CHRONICLES=13
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1CHRONICLES=13
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1KINGS=11
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1PTR=60
1SAMUEL=9
1THESSALONIANS=52
1TIMOTHY=54
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2 CHRONICLES=14
2 CORINTHIANS=47
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2 KINGS=12
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2 PTR=61
2 SAMUEL=10
2 THESSALONIANS=53
2 TIMOTHY=55
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2CHRONICLES=14
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2JOHN=63
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2KINGS=12
2PETER=61
2PTR=61
2SAMUEL=10
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2TIMOTHY=55
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ESTHER=17
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GALATIANS=48
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HAGGAI=37
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I CHRONICLES=13
I CORINTHIANS=46
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I JOHN=62
I KGS=11
I KINGS=11
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I SAMUEL=9
I THESSALONIANS=52
I TIMOTHY=54
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ICHRONICLES=13
ICORINTHIANS=46
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II CHRONICLES=14
II CORINTHIANS=47
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II KINGS=12
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IIKINGS=12
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IKINGS=11
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IPTR=60
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 12:03:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Tero Favorin)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:03:38 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] locales.d/fi.conf with some questions
References: <200201210802.g0L826T22434@keskus.tct.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <3C4C039A.5020409@favorin.com>
I've made a simple Finnish 1992 bible module. I simply split the
multi-verses to single verses and indicated with special tag the
different verse numbering since SWORD cannot handle these yet and I
didn't bother to do anything with poetic lines and headings, although
I've seen headings atleast in the ISV module. The module may be read at
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net, but since I only asked for permission
to publish it at one site I couldn't publish the actual module.
I've got a Java program which converts the original files to SWORD module.
Contact me for more info.
--
Tero Favorin
Email: tero@favorin.com
Markus Peuhkuri wrote:
>Here is attached locale for Finnish; but I have some questions.
>
>The book names are according 1992 version of Finnish Bible and there
>are some differences to 1933,1938 version of "Pyhä Raamattu" (yes,
>there is some 8bit>7bit conversion error at list: in 7bit HTML it
>should read "Pyhä Raamattu"; the Old Testament was taken in use
>in 1933, the New Testament 1938). For example:
>
>- Song of Solomon is "Laulujen Laulu" in 1992 version and "Korkea
> Veisu" (Kork.v) in 1933 version.
>
>- There is no prefix "Paavalin" (Paulus') in letters to
> Romans--Philemon in 1992 version.
>
>There may be other differences also which I do not remember anymore.
>How these differences should be marked in locales?
>
>Another question is about converting Bible (the 1992 version). The
>1992 version is formated as running text i.e. it has multi-verse
>paragraphs (with breaks possibly in middle of verse), poems (and
>songs) do have line structure and there are informative headings
>(again possibly in middle of verse). How these should be handled in
>conversion?
>
>The 1992 version has some copyright issues, but I think they are not a
>big problem as in 1994 we got right to publish text in HTML format for
>personal study, this is mainly an extension. And in worst case, we
>can just provide conversion script and one downloads the HTML version
>by oneself and runs the converter.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[Meta]
>Name=fi
>Description=Finnish
>
>[Text]
>Genesis=Ensimmäinen Mooseksen kirja
>Exodus=Toinen Mooseksen kirja
>Leviticus=Kolmas Mooseksen kirja
>Numbers=Neljäs Mooseksen kirja
>Deuteronomy=Viides Mooseksen kirja
>Joshua=Joosuan kirja
>Judges=Tuomarien kirja
>Ruth=Ruutin kirja
>I Samuel=Ensimmäinen Samuelin kirja
>II Samuel=Toinen Samuelin kirja
>I Kings=Ensimmäinen kuninkaiden kirja
>II Kings=Toinen kuninkaiden kirja
>I Chronicles=Ensimmäinen aikakirja
>II Chronicles=Toinen aikakirja
>Ezra=Esran kirja
>Nehemiah=Nehemian kirja
>Esther=Esterin kirja
>Job=Jobin kirja
>Psalms=Psalmien kirja
>Proverbs=Sananlaskujen kirja
>Ecclesiastes=Saarnaajan kirja
>Song of Solomon=Laulujen kirja
>Isaiah=Jesajan kirja
>Jeremiah=Jeremian kirja
>Lamentations=Valitusvirret
>Ezekiel=Hesekielin kirja
>Daniel=Danielin kirja
>Hosea=Hoosean kirja
>Joel=Joelin kirja
>Amos=Aamoksen kirja
>Obadiah=Obadjan kirja
>Jonah=Joonan kirja
>Micah=Miikan kirja
>Nahum=Nahumin kirja
>Habakkuk=Habakukin kirja
>Zephaniah=Sefanjan kirja
>Haggai=Haggain kirja
>Zechariah=Sakarjan kirja
>Malachi=Malakian kirja
>Matthew=Evankeliumi Matteuksen mukaan
>Mark=Evankeliumi Markuksen mukaan
>Luke=Evankeliumi Luukkaan mukaan
>John=Evankeliumi Johanneksen mukaan
>Acts=Apostolien teot
>Romans=Kirje roomalaisille
>I Corinthians=Ensimminen kirje korinttilaisille
>II Corinthians=Toinen kirje korinttilaisille
>Galatians=Kirje galatalaisille
>Ephesians=Kirje efesolaisille
>Philippians=Kirje filippiläisille
>Colossians=Kirje kolossalaisille
>I Thessalonians=Ensimmäinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
>II Thessalonians=Toinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
>I Timothy=Ensimmäinen kirje Timoteukselle
>II Timothy=Toinen kirje Timoteukselle
>Titus=Kirje Titukselle
>Philemon=Kirje Filemonille
>Hebrews=Kirje heprealaisille
>James=Jaakobin kirje
>I Peter=Ensimmäinen Pietarin kirje
>II Peter=Toinen Pietarin kirje
>I John=Ensimmäinen Johanneksen kirje
>II John=Toinen Johanneksen kirje
>III John=Kolmas Johanneksen kirje
>Jude=Juudaksen kirje
>Revelation of John=Johanneksen ilmestys
>
>[Book Abbrevs]
>
>1 C=46
>1 CHRONICLES=13
>1 CORINTHIANS=46
>1 JN=62
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>
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>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 14:29:57 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Leon Brooks)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:29:57 +0800
Subject: [sword-devel] OT: Announcing ChristianSource FSLUG
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020120184911.00a7e1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <20020121143023.1D45F3251E2@mail.old-firestation.net>
On Monday 21 January 2002 08:53, Lloyd N. Landers, Jr. wrote:
> When you talk about
> "Free Software," are you referring to software that only runs on Linux or
> are you referring to software that runs on Windows?
Straight from the horses' (er, gnus') mouths:
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Cheers; Leon
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 18:34:21 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jonathan Hughes)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:34:21 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Message-ID: <02012110342201.02327@laptop>
Hey Everyone,
I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about why we don't have the
NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from www.netbible.org in
html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to format
the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out in the
efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
Jonathan Hughes
jhughes@crosswire.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 19:16:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Darren DeMeulenaere)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:16:37 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Message-ID: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain. I believe
there is a copywrite on it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Hughes [mailto:jhughes@crosswire.org]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:34 AM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Hey Everyone,
I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about why we don't
have the
NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from www.netbible.org in
html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to format
the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out in the
efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
Jonathan Hughes
jhughes@crosswire.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 20:53:01 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jonathan Hughes)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:53:01 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
In-Reply-To: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
References: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
Message-ID: <02012112530107.02327@laptop>
Hey Everyone,
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain. I believe
> there is a copywrite on it.
Yeah, I believe it is copyrighted however if they are willing to provide it
for anyone to download for free in HTML format as well as some other useful
formats, then I believe they would be willing to let us distribute it also.
Just wondering about the packaging of the module.
Jonathan
jhughes@crosswire.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 23:05:20 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:05:20 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
In-Reply-To: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF464@SDGSYS2>
Message-ID: <000001c1a2d0$1bffa2c0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> I believe there is a copywrite on it.
Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
any other text I know of. There are I believe only two software
packages being allowed to license the text (Logos & OliveTree) and
you're not allowed to copy the text from their webpage to post on your
own webpage.
> I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about
> why we don't have the
> NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from
> www.netbible.org in
> html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to
format
> the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out
in the
> efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
So, like I said, the NET is not very (libre) free and is not easily
downloaded from netbible.org. That said, I have the text in a pair of
modules (a Bible for the text & a commentary for the notes) but don't
expect it to be posted publicly soon, if ever.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 21:14:42 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Darren DeMeulenaere)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:14:42 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
Message-ID: <019F9B76FA41D311872A00805F654B468AF468@SDGSYS2>
Has anyone approached them about our project. I believe I sent an email to
them a couple of years ago, but never heard back. Is there anyone willing
to approach them?
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Little [mailto:chrislit@chiasma.org]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:05 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
> I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> I believe there is a copywrite on it.
Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
any other text I know of. There are I believe only two software
packages being allowed to license the text (Logos & OliveTree) and
you're not allowed to copy the text from their webpage to post on your
own webpage.
> I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about
> why we don't have the
> NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from
> www.netbible.org in
> html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to
format
> the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out
in the
> efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
So, like I said, the NET is not very (libre) free and is not easily
downloaded from netbible.org. That said, I have the text in a pair of
modules (a Bible for the text & a commentary for the notes) but don't
expect it to be posted publicly soon, if ever.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 21 23:25:03 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:25:03 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
In-Reply-To: <000001c1a2d0$1bffa2c0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <001801c1a2d2$da8ba020$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
I met the guy behind the NET Bible several years ago. I was excited about
the project because the main selling point was that it was going to be a
solid translation that was FREELY distributed. I do not know what changed or
why.
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Chris Little
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: RE: [sword-devel] NET Bible: why don't we have it?
>
>
>
>
> > I don't believe that the net bible is gnu, or public domain.
> > I believe there is a copywrite on it.
>
>
> Yup. NET is not PD. It's not available for non-commercial
> distribution. As far as licensing goes, it's at least as restrictive as
> any other text I know of. There are I believe only two software
> packages being allowed to license the text (Logos & OliveTree) and
> you're not allowed to copy the text from their webpage to post on your
> own webpage.
>
> > I recieved a e-mail message from someone asking about
> > why we don't have the
> > NET Bible as a module. It is distributed for free from
> > www.netbible.org in
> > html format. Is it just the fact that it would take too much time to
> format
> > the text from HTML? The guy that contacted me is willing to help out
> in the
> > efforts of preparing the NET Bible HTML for a SWORD module.
>
> So, like I said, the NET is not very (libre) free and is not easily
> downloaded from netbible.org. That said, I have the text in a pair of
> modules (a Bible for the text & a commentary for the notes) but don't
> expect it to be posted publicly soon, if ever.
>
> --Chris
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 16:44:26 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Anthony & Kylie Kerr)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:44:26 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] help with step2vpl
Message-ID: <3C4D96E9.2F483EFF@pacific.net.au>
Hi
I have just discovered this fantastic project, my thanks to you all for
your work in the Lord. I am a newish Linux user (not developer) and
have abandoned Microsoft completely. On discovering the Sword project I
was overjoyed because the one hole in my Linux system was no bible
software.
I am in training for fulltime ministry in Sydney Australia and would
love to convert my Quickverse 4.0 modules to Sword. I have compiled the
utilities and copied them to usr/bin/ but I can't quite get the step2vpl
utility to go. Could someone please help? Alternatively could I become
a software tester to gain access to NIV, NASB, NKJV etc? (I would much
rather learn more about the project and Linux in general and do the
converting if possible.
Thanks, hope you don't mind my newbie-ish-ness.
Your brother in the Lord Jesus Christ
Anthony Kerr
PS Mandrake 8.1
Sword 1.5.2
Bibletime 1.02
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 13:48:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:48:23 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] SWModule:Lang working?
Message-ID: <200201221417.HAA24639@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
At the moment I'm doing some work on the API documentation of Sword. I came
across SWModule::Lang in swmodule.h.
Is this function doing anything except copying the language name to
SWModule::modlang?
I'm dreaming that this function can be used to let the modules appear have
the book names in the language of the module if the user likes it.
Another question: Wouldn't it be useful to put the Sword API documentation
online? Maybe using webcvs?
Thanks!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 14:19:44 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:19:44 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org/stats/ not working properly
Message-ID: <200201221426.HAA24725@www.crosswire.org>
I had a look at the staticstics, because I was curious how many modules are
downloaded each month.
But somehow the stats are not working properly.
For example http://www.crosswire.org/stats/usage_200112.html shows only the
last two days. The other months don't show correctly, too.
Does somebody know how to fix this?
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 14:22:45 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Lloyd N. Landers, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:22:45 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bug: Bad Byte Count in Refresh from Remote Source
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020122081926.00a7f808@pop3.norton.antivirus>
I know it's a very small, almost insignificant thing, but the byte count
being transferred and the % complete are incorrect in the Install
Manager. If you click on "Refresh from Remote Source" to get the
up-to-date listing, once the download starts, the total number of bytes is
0 and the % complete is humongous, to say the least.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 15:49:56 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:49:56 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] BUG: VerseKey::setLocale doesn't work properly
Message-ID: <200201221650.JAA25529@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
While working on BibleTime's verse parsing I noticed some bad behaviour of
VerseKey::setLocale.
Have a look at this piece of code:
VerseKey bla;
bla = "James 1:19";
bla.setLocale("de");
cout << bla << endl;
bla = "Johannes 1:1";
cout << bla << endl;
The output of this is:
Jakobus 1:19
Offenbarung 22:21
The first one (Jakobus 1:1, which is James 1:19 in english) is correct. But
if I equate the VerseKey object after changing the locale with a german book
name (Johannes 1:1, which is John 1:1 in english) is returns all the time
Revelation 22:21.
Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?
Thank you very much for your support!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 19:58:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:58:16 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org/stats/ not working properly
In-Reply-To: <200201221426.HAA24725@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000101c1a37f$36d5a630$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> I had a look at the staticstics, because I was curious how
> many modules are
> downloaded each month.
>
> But somehow the stats are not working properly.
> For example http://www.crosswire.org/stats/usage_200112.html
> shows only the
> last two days. The other months don't show correctly, too.
>
> Does somebody know how to fix this?
I think this is happening because the log parsing and the log expiration
are out of sync, causing the logs to be expired before they've been
parsed (entirely or at all).
The other stats page: http://www.crosswire.org/stats.html is a little
better according to Troy. For module stats, just go to the Sword
homepage. Those stats are a lot more accurate because they take into
account all methods of downloading modules and they update about 3 times
daily. They only list the top 20 modules, but I could post a complete
list somewhere if you like.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 21:19:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Grove, Michael)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:19:16 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] unsubscribe sword-devel
Message-ID: <635D99946833D4118AFF00508B4AB44E01934753@pcsprodms04.gsm1900.org>
unsubscribe sword-devel
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Tue Jan 22 23:10:34 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:10:34 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] help with step2vpl
References: <3C4D96E9.2F483EFF@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <3C4DF16A.7101551A@crosswire.org>
Anthony,
Thanks for your interest and encouragement. It's been some time since
working on the step utils. I believe the step2vpl should output a good
vpl (1 verse per line) file, that you should then be able to run thru
vpl2mod to create a working sword module. I used it on a free NKJV step
module that Parson's posted on their site a while back. That was my
target-- to get it to work with this test step module, and that was the
last time I touched it. Please let me know what you tried, and the
result, so I might remember a little more to help, if I can.
-Troy.
Anthony & Kylie Kerr wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have just discovered this fantastic project, my thanks to you all for
> your work in the Lord. I am a newish Linux user (not developer) and
> have abandoned Microsoft completely. On discovering the Sword project I
> was overjoyed because the one hole in my Linux system was no bible
> software.
>
> I am in training for fulltime ministry in Sydney Australia and would
> love to convert my Quickverse 4.0 modules to Sword. I have compiled the
> utilities and copied them to usr/bin/ but I can't quite get the step2vpl
> utility to go. Could someone please help? Alternatively could I become
> a software tester to gain access to NIV, NASB, NKJV etc? (I would much
> rather learn more about the project and Linux in general and do the
> converting if possible.
>
> Thanks, hope you don't mind my newbie-ish-ness.
>
> Your brother in the Lord Jesus Christ
>
> Anthony Kerr
>
> PS Mandrake 8.1
> Sword 1.5.2
> Bibletime 1.02
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 23 18:12:07 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Anthony & Kylie Kerr)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:12:07 +1100
Subject: [sword-devel] Re:help with step2vpl
References: <3C4D96E9.2F483EFF@pacific.net.au> <3C4DF16A.7101551A@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4EFCF7.BA04938E@pacific.net.au>
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Thanks for your email Troy.
This is how I executed step2vpl (as root)
step2vpl /home/oozle-r/bibles/nasb/ /home/oozle-r/anton/
a message came up something like
error couldn't open file Book.dat
I checked step2vpl.cpp and at approx line 130 was the following
fileName = bookpath + "Book.dat";
however the Quickverse file I think it was looking for was called
books.dat
So I changed the name in step2vpl to books.dat, did a "make", copied to /usr/bin
and then ran step2vpl as per above. Then I got a message Aborted (core dump)
Core dump file as attached (it isn't that big 6k)
thanks in anticipation of your help.
yours in Christ
Anthony
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Thanks for your email Troy.
This is how I executed step2vpl (as root)
step2vpl /home/oozle-r/bibles/nasb/
/home/oozle-r/anton/
a message came up something like
error couldn't open
file Book.dat
I checked step2vpl.cpp and at approx line 130 was the following
fileName = bookpath
+ "Book.dat";
however the Quickverse file I think it was looking for was called
books.dat
So I changed the name in step2vpl to books.dat, did a "make", copied
to /usr/bin and then ran step2vpl as per above. Then I got a message
Aborted (core dump)
Core dump file as attached (it isn't that big 6k)
thanks in anticipation of your help.
yours in Christ
Anthony
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 23 13:04:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Trandahl, Steve)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:04:35 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Re:help with step2vpl
Message-ID: <916EA44D78B4D2118FE100805FBB8A2EC2CC9C@sfa-phl-1.cotelligent.com>
Anthony,
Seeing your email triggered a memory from a while back. Here's what Paul
Gear sent me when I briefly worked on the STEP portion over a year ago...
QuickVerse 4.x and earlier were not STEP-based. Try QV 5.0 or later.
See for the gory details. If you
poke around or search Craig's site, you'll find quite a bit of
information on QuickVerse and STEP.
Parsons have a free STEP NKJV on their FTP server:
. Gotta use Windows to
install it, though. :-(
Craig has also offered to me in the past to explain the 4.x and earlier
data format if anyone is interested in writing a driver for it. I would
certainly be interested in this, as it would let me use the NIV with
BibleTime! I understand that the format is a very simple binary
encoding where every word was given a 16-bit code.
Steve Trandahl
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony & Kylie Kerr [mailto:anton_kylie@pacific.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:12 PM
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: [sword-devel] Re:help with step2vpl
Thanks for your email Troy.
This is how I executed step2vpl (as root)
step2vpl /home/oozle-r/bibles/nasb/ /home/oozle-r/anton/
a message came up something like
error couldn't open file Book.dat
I checked step2vpl.cpp and at approx line 130 was the following
fileName = bookpath + "Book.dat";
however the Quickverse file I think it was looking for was called
books.dat
So I changed the name in step2vpl to books.dat, did a "make", copied to
/usr/bin and then ran step2vpl as per above. Then I got a message Aborted
(core dump)
Core dump file as attached (it isn't that big 6k)
thanks in anticipation of your help.
yours in Christ
Anthony
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Wed Jan 23 15:16:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:16:48 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Bible search
In-Reply-To: <3C4DF16A.7101551A@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <004201c1a420$fa5a1180$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Thought you all might enjoy this:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cx/uc/20020115/ft/ft020115.html?u
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 09:20:32 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:20:32 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
Message-ID: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
that should be of interest. Try something like:
cd sword/tests
mkdir yoyo
./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
?
The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
at the printTree method in the test program to see.
There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
possible thought is for bookmark data.
NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
it right!
Blessings,
-Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 11:23:13 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:23:13 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4FEEA1.1315.FF6F6C1@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
done and checked in (I think I got everything, one way to find out).
d
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 11:23:04 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:23:04 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] debian users have it easy
Message-ID: <3C4FEE98.12613.FF6D501@localhost>
well, it's on a par with installmanager at least :)
If there is anyone else out there on the list using Debian you can now install your
modules with apt etc.
Just add
deb http://www.crosswire.org/~glasseyes/debian unstable main
to your sources.list and away you go.
Note that the debs are built with an autoscript and are mostly untested. Bug reports
appreciated.
Ta,
Daniel
P.S. I don't know how to word it as a news item but it would be great if it could be
an item on the websites.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 11:56:16 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:56:16 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4FF660.22914.1015380E@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
just a quickie. rawstr.cpp gave a compiler warning saying that preptext shouldn't be
static there. I changed it locally and it was ok, and still static in the header. I checked
it in by mistake, so I hope that is ok.
after changing that it compiles straight through.
d
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 12:08:33 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:08:33 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C4FF941.107.1020785D@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
er, trying this on crosswire ...
[glasseyes@www tests]$ mkdir yoyo
[glasseyes@www tests]$ ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[glasseyes@www tests]$ ls
H (@H (@ybook.dat compzip indextest listtest.o romantest
H (@H (@ybook.idx compzip.o indextest.o localetest romantest.o
Makefile configtest introtest localetest.o swaptest
casttest configtest.o introtest.o mgrtest swaptest.o
casttest.o core keycast mgrtest.o testblocks
complzss filtertest keycast.o modtest testblocks.o
complzss.o filtertest.o keytest modtest.o treeidxtest
compnone genbooktest keytest.o parsekey treeidxtest.o
compnone.o genbooktest.o listtest parsekey.o yoyo
[glasseyes@www tests]$ ls yoyo
mybook.bdt
[glasseyes@www tests]$
[glasseyes@www .libs]$ !gdb
gdb ./genbooktest
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"...
(gdb) set args ./yoyo/mybook
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/glasseyes/cvs/sword/build/tests/.libs/./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x40144525 in
__as__t12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b1i0PCc
(this=0x4011b53c, s=0x0)
at ../../../libstdc++/std/straits.h:125
125 ../../../libstdc++/std/straits.h: No such file or directory.
(gdb) bt
#0 0x40144525 in
__as__t12basic_string3ZcZt18string_char_traits1ZcZt24__default_alloc_template2b1i0PCc
(this=0x4011b53c, s=0x0)
at ../../../libstdc++/std/straits.h:125
#1 0x40081127 in TreeKeyIdx::getFullName (this=0x80522a0)
at ../../src/keys/treekeyidx.cpp:133
#2 0x804ca12 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbffffc64)
at ../../tests/genbooktest.cpp:122
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 13:44:19 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Martin Gruner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:44:19 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201241351.GAA28483@www.crosswire.org>
Troy,
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
Thank you so much. This is really awesome and will have a huge impact on the
Sword project, I guess.
Some quick questions:
-how can I find out how many levels a treekey has?
-could you please post a GBS module (content doesn't matter) for testing,
with a difficult/complicated tree layout with many levels?
-when do you expect sword 1.5.3 to be released? (Sorry for my nagging, but we
are close to a BT release. Please do the bookmarking later.)
Again, many thanks for all your efforts, the time and energy you invest, from
the whole BibleTime project. I really hope that God will reward you.
May His Word be spread through the Sword and related projects!
Martin
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 14:09:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:09:38 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201241423.HAA28711@www.crosswire.org>
Troy and Chris!
You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to spread Gods word
in the world!
I'll test this now!
Joachim
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
>
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
>
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
>
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
>
> Blessings,
> -Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 15:01:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:01:27 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000401c1a4e7$ff9d8b00$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Troy,
As a non-programming hipster-dufus, I am not sure what all that means, but
it sounds cool. I think that general book support will explode the
usefulness of Sword beyond comprehension. We are cheering for you guys. Keep
up the great work.
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org
> [mailto:owner-sword-devel@crosswire.org]On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:21 AM
> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
>
>
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
>
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
>
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
>
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
>
> Blessings,
> -Troy.
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 16:10:27 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:10:27 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <200201241423.HAA28711@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C5031F3.30665.574C82@localhost>
I should've said earlier but I'll add my thanks to the chorus :)
Daniel
P.S. Doesn't work for me on cygwin either. I think I might have traced the problem to these lines in
genbooktest.cpp
RawGenBook *book = new RawGenBook(argv[1]);
TreeKeyIdx root = *(TreeKeyIdx *)(SWKey *)(*book);
treeKey = (TreeKeyIdx *)(SWKey *)(*book);
string input;
char line[1024];
do {
cout << "[" << treeKey->getFullName() << "] > ";
afaict it is crashing on the getFullName.
ah,
//TreeKeyIdx *root = *(TreeKeyIdx *)(SWKey *)(*book);
TreeKeyIdx root = *((TreeKeyIdx *)((SWKey *)(*book)));
if I use brackets to explicitly do the cast it works, checking that in
P.P.S. (now it's working) Wow!
On 24 Jan 2002 at 15:09, Joachim Ansorg sent forth the message:
> Troy and Chris!
>
> You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to spread Gods word
> in the world!
> I'll test this now!
>
> Joachim
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 17:16:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:16:18 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] debian users have it easy
In-Reply-To: <3C4FEE98.12613.FF6D501@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C504162.29819.9398AB@localhost>
P.S. Forgot to say, more details on www.crosswire.org/~glasseyes
On 24 Jan 2002 at 11:23, Daniel Glassey sent forth the message:
> well, it's on a par with installmanager at least :)
>
> If there is anyone else out there on the list using Debian you can now install your
> modules with apt etc.
> Just add
> deb http://www.crosswire.org/~glasseyes/debian unstable main
> to your sources.list and away you go.
> Note that the debs are built with an autoscript and are mostly untested. Bug reports
> appreciated.
>
> Ta,
> Daniel
>
> P.S. I don't know how to word it as a news item but it would be great if it could be
> an item on the websites.
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 18:09:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:09:17 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <3C504DCD.14373.C4192C@localhost>
On 24 Jan 2002 at 2:20, Troy A. Griffitts sent forth the message:
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
what can I say but great :) Thanks guys.
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
ok, couple of things after playing with genbooktest
did you mean this instead? (set text doesn't work unless you enter "." ;) )
genbooktest: 56:
-if ((buf[0] != '.') || (buf[1] != 0))
+if ((buf[0] == '.') && (buf[1] == 0))
when you get the text back after entering it, the newlines are stripped, dunno if this is good or
bad.
In RawGenBook::getRawEntry
there is a local variable key as well as the class variable key. This is confusing. (at least I think
that is what is happening, I think this may be causing problems but I'm not sure).
The rest is working great.
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
Hope you had a good sleep :)
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
btw, I haven't noticed you saying. What are you out there for, what are the meetings about if
you can say?
Regards,
Daniel
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 22:39:10 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:39:10 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <200201241423.HAA28711@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000001c1a527$f3b15fc0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> Troy and Chris!
>
> You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to
> spread Gods word
> in the world!
> I'll test this now!
Just to clarify. Troy did all the real work. All I did was play
solitaire and complain that Troy hadn't finished GBS & zLD. I'll
concentrate my continued complaints on zLD's non-completion. :)
I'll try to get a ThML importer written tonight, assuming I can figure
it all out.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 21:43:05 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:43:05 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
References: <3C4FD1E0.681490B4@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201242150.OAA32094@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
Tested it. It's not working, sorry! Even with Daniel's fix it works not in
all cases.
If I run "treeindextest yoyo" it creates some data files. Only if the data
files were created by treeindextest "genbooktest yoyo" works (starting
without crash). Otherwise I get
./genbooktest yoyo
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Segmentation fault
Thank you!
Joachim
> Me and Chris are out here in Dallas at Wycliffe and have had some time
> to work together. TreeKey and general book support are now checked in
> to cvs. Try them out and let me know what you think.
>
> There are test tools in the tests directory. There is a genbooktest.cpp
> that should be of interest. Try something like:
>
> cd sword/tests
> mkdir yoyo
> ./genbooktest ./yoyo/mybook
> ?
>
>
>
> The ? will give you a small menu of some stuff to try. You should be
> able to build a tree index and add and view text on your new book. The
> driver for the .conf file (when you finish and would like to check it
> out with swmgr) is RawGenBook
>
> The iteration of the tree is a little different in a few points. look
> at the printTree method in the test program to see.
>
> There is also a treeidxtest program. It was done first and tests the
> TreeKeyIdx implementation of the TreeKey interface (which general book
> support uses). It may be useful to see how to use TreeKeyIdx by
> itself. Many (maybe all) functions in this program are also present in
> genbooktest, so refer the genbooktest for the latest version of each
> function; I'll probably back-copy them when I'm not so sleepy.
>
> TreeKey allows for _USER DATA_ to be stored with each key entry. We use
> this to store the offset and size of the book entry in the rawgenbook
> driver. We can also use this for all kinds of other things. One
> possible thought is for bookmark data.
>
> NOTE: new files are not added to new autoconf / automake system yet.
> You will need to use the old make system to build. Maybe Daniel can get
> them in sometime soon (hint hint, DANIEL GLASSEY, read this) :)
>
> Hope you all enjoy it. Please keep our meetings in prayer over the next
> couple days. OSIS will be a great tool for us, Lord willing, if we do
> it right!
>
> Blessings,
> -Troy.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 21:46:42 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:46:42 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <000001c1a527$f3b15fc0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
References: <000001c1a527$f3b15fc0$773395a6@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <200201242153.OAA32131@www.crosswire.org>
Well done, Chris ;)
But don't force Troy to write code if he's so tired. Code may get worse :)
Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used? Would be cool.
Joachim
> > Troy and Chris!
> >
> > You're awesome! Really good work! I'm sure this will help to
> > spread Gods word
> > in the world!
> > I'll test this now!
>
> Just to clarify. Troy did all the real work. All I did was play
> solitaire and complain that Troy hadn't finished GBS & zLD. I'll
> concentrate my continued complaints on zLD's non-completion. :)
>
> I'll try to get a ThML importer written tonight, assuming I can figure
> it all out.
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 22:02:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Hastings)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:02:35 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Transliterations
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020124142531.00a38590@mail.dancris.com>
Chris and Troy.
Here is a rough draft of the help for the new transliteration feature in
BibleCS:
Transliteration changes a text from the script that would be displayed into
a transliteration of it. If the text was Greek, an alpha would become an
"A" or "a", and a beta would become a "B" or "b". This is useful when
documents are prepared for sharing with others that may not be able to
display the native script. For posting text to a newsgroup or an email
list, a transliteration is often the standard format. Transliteration works
for Greek, Hebrew and many other languages.
Comments or suggestions?
After looking at the B-Greek right click copy feature you told me about. It
seems to me that generalizing the B-Greek right click copy feature to a
Copy as Transliteration feature, where one could select any of the
transliterations and use it on many modules, would often be better than
turning transliteration on and off. I would keep the on/off option but add
the copy as transliteration.
JerryPH
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 23:07:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:07:14 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Sword Modules -> RISC OS
References: <001a01c1a0f8$9e6f1c60$aac668d5@tinypc>
Message-ID: <3C5093A2.9DA4A5C3@crosswire.org>
accessing a module is fairly straight forward. something like this
should work:
SWMgr mgr;
SWModule *module = mgr.Modules["KJV"];
for ((*module) = TOP; !module->Error(); (*module)++) {
// do something like:
cout << (const char *)(*module);
}
Hope this helps
There is also a utility in the utilities directory called mod2vpl that
will output a 'verse per line' text file from a module.
In Christ's blessings,
-Troy.
"W. Simpson" wrote:
>
> In reply to Chris Little:
>
> Hi,
>
> >> Like I said, I can't port anything. Whether or not I can solicit someone
> to
> >> do the work is another matter. One particular objection I see is that
> >> RISC OS prides itself on its own distinctive style, expecting very
> different
> >> desktop behaviour from its programs than that of something built for
> >> windows. I can't see Sword working acceptably in a RISC OS environment,
> >> (though I know very little about porting anything to anywhere).
>
> >Sword itself is just a library. Once you have that compiled, you could
> >just call it and write whatever exporter or viewer you like.
>
> I see.
>
> >> Hmmm, I was hoping there might be some relatively simple decompression
> >> algorithm I could apply to each file.
>
> >They are compressed in a simple decompression algorithm, namely zip. But
> >it isn't simply zipped as a whole, we compress blocks (chapters or books)
> >and place them in a file, then index the location in a second file.
>
> Which would account for why the RSV appears encrypted having been
> extracted from its ZIP file, and contains more files than the KJV module.
>
> RSV:
>
> nt.bzs
> nt.bzc
> nt
> ot.bzs
> ot.bzv
> ot
> rsv.sgm
>
> Yes, I see what you mean. It isn't a perfectly straightforward decompression
> of each file. All the same, if anyone is willing to attach the relevant
> pieces of source code to an e-mail for me (or someone else) to examine now
> or in the future, with any other useful remarks, I would be grateful.
>
> Thank you all once again :-)
>
> Shalom,
>
> W.Simpson
> www.logosword.co.uk
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Thu Jan 24 23:23:58 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:23:58 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] locales.d/fi.conf with some questions
References: <200201210802.g0L826T22434@keskus.tct.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <3C50978E.48AA3AF3@crosswire.org>
Thank you for the FINNISH locale! I'm not sure your question about
different book names. But... Our locales files REQUIRE you to have a
[Book Abbrevs] entry that resolves to EXACTLY the book name translation
run thru toupper() (whatever that produces :)). If you would like both
these references. then you could do something like:
[Book Abbrevs]
LAULUJEN LAULU=22
KORKEA VEISU=22
NOTE: The first one is REQUIRED for SWORD to use your locale
correctly. This is because the first is how you translated 'Song of
Solomon' on your locale that you attached. The second (and any number
of additional variants) may be added, optionally.
Hope this helps.
-Troy.
PS. Thanks again! Please send updates as you refine. You may use the
parsekey test tool to try your locale out!
Markus Peuhkuri wrote:
>
> Here is attached locale for Finnish; but I have some questions.
>
> The book names are according 1992 version of Finnish Bible and there
> are some differences to 1933,1938 version of "Pyhä Raamattu" (yes,
> there is some 8bit>7bit conversion error at list: in 7bit HTML it
> should read "Pyhä Raamattu"; the Old Testament was taken in use
> in 1933, the New Testament 1938). For example:
>
> - Song of Solomon is "Laulujen Laulu" in 1992 version and "Korkea
> Veisu" (Kork.v) in 1933 version.
>
> - There is no prefix "Paavalin" (Paulus') in letters to
> Romans--Philemon in 1992 version.
>
> There may be other differences also which I do not remember anymore.
> How these differences should be marked in locales?
>
> Another question is about converting Bible (the 1992 version). The
> 1992 version is formated as running text i.e. it has multi-verse
> paragraphs (with breaks possibly in middle of verse), poems (and
> songs) do have line structure and there are informative headings
> (again possibly in middle of verse). How these should be handled in
> conversion?
>
> The 1992 version has some copyright issues, but I think they are not a
> big problem as in 1994 we got right to publish text in HTML format for
> personal study, this is mainly an extension. And in worst case, we
> can just provide conversion script and one downloads the HTML version
> by oneself and runs the converter.
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> [Meta]
> Name=fi
> Description=Finnish
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> [Text]
> Genesis=Ensimmäinen Mooseksen kirja
> Exodus=Toinen Mooseksen kirja
> Leviticus=Kolmas Mooseksen kirja
> Numbers=Neljäs Mooseksen kirja
> Deuteronomy=Viides Mooseksen kirja
> Joshua=Joosuan kirja
> Judges=Tuomarien kirja
> Ruth=Ruutin kirja
> I Samuel=Ensimmäinen Samuelin kirja
> II Samuel=Toinen Samuelin kirja
> I Kings=Ensimmäinen kuninkaiden kirja
> II Kings=Toinen kuninkaiden kirja
> I Chronicles=Ensimmäinen aikakirja
> II Chronicles=Toinen aikakirja
> Ezra=Esran kirja
> Nehemiah=Nehemian kirja
> Esther=Esterin kirja
> Job=Jobin kirja
> Psalms=Psalmien kirja
> Proverbs=Sananlaskujen kirja
> Ecclesiastes=Saarnaajan kirja
> Song of Solomon=Laulujen kirja
> Isaiah=Jesajan kirja
> Jeremiah=Jeremian kirja
> Lamentations=Valitusvirret
> Ezekiel=Hesekielin kirja
> Daniel=Danielin kirja
> Hosea=Hoosean kirja
> Joel=Joelin kirja
> Amos=Aamoksen kirja
> Obadiah=Obadjan kirja
> Jonah=Joonan kirja
> Micah=Miikan kirja
> Nahum=Nahumin kirja
> Habakkuk=Habakukin kirja
> Zephaniah=Sefanjan kirja
> Haggai=Haggain kirja
> Zechariah=Sakarjan kirja
> Malachi=Malakian kirja
> Matthew=Evankeliumi Matteuksen mukaan
> Mark=Evankeliumi Markuksen mukaan
> Luke=Evankeliumi Luukkaan mukaan
> John=Evankeliumi Johanneksen mukaan
> Acts=Apostolien teot
> Romans=Kirje roomalaisille
> I Corinthians=Ensimminen kirje korinttilaisille
> II Corinthians=Toinen kirje korinttilaisille
> Galatians=Kirje galatalaisille
> Ephesians=Kirje efesolaisille
> Philippians=Kirje filippiläisille
> Colossians=Kirje kolossalaisille
> I Thessalonians=Ensimmäinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
> II Thessalonians=Toinen kirje tessalonikalaisille
> I Timothy=Ensimmäinen kirje Timoteukselle
> II Timothy=Toinen kirje Timoteukselle
> Titus=Kirje Titukselle
> Philemon=Kirje Filemonille
> Hebrews=Kirje heprealaisille
> James=Jaakobin kirje
> I Peter=Ensimmäinen Pietarin kirje
> II Peter=Toinen Pietarin kirje
> I John=Ensimmäinen Johanneksen kirje
> II John=Toinen Johanneksen kirje
> III John=Kolmas Johanneksen kirje
> Jude=Juudaksen kirje
> Revelation of John=Johanneksen ilmestys
>
> [Book Abbrevs]
>
> 1 C=46
> 1 CHRONICLES=13
> 1 CORINTHIANS=46
> 1 JN=62
> 1 JOHN=62
> 1 KGS=11
> 1 KINGS=11
> 1 PETER=60
> 1 PTR=60
> 1 SAMUEL=9
> 1 THESSALONIANS=52
> 1 TIMOTHY=54
> 1C=46
> 1CHRONICLES=13
> 1CORINTHIANS=46
> 1JN=62
> 1JOHN=62
> 1KGS=11
> 1KINGS=11
> 1PETER=60
> 1PTR=60
> 1SAMUEL=9
> 1THESSALONIANS=52
> 1TIMOTHY=54
> 2 C=47
> 2 CHRONICLES=14
> 2 CORINTHIANS=47
> 2 JN=63
> 2 JOHN=63
> 2 KGS=12
> 2 KINGS=12
> 2 PETER=61
> 2 PTR=61
> 2 SAMUEL=10
> 2 THESSALONIANS=53
> 2 TIMOTHY=55
> 2C=47
> 2CHRONICLES=14
> 2CORINTHIANS=47
> 2JN=63
> 2JOHN=63
> 2KGS=12
> 2KINGS=12
> 2PETER=61
> 2PTR=61
> 2SAMUEL=10
> 2THESSALONIANS=53
> 2TIMOTHY=55
> 3 JN=64
> 3 JOHN=64
> 3JN=64
> 3JOHN=64
> ACTS=44
> AMOS=30
> APOCALYPSE OF ST. JOHN=66
> C=51
> CANTICLE OF CANTICLES=22
> COC=22
> COLOSSIANS=51
> D=5
> DANIEL=27
> DEUTERONOMY=5
> E=49
> ECCLESIASTES=21
> EPHESIANS=49
> ESTER=17
> ESTHER=17
> EXODUS=2
> EZEKIEL=26
> EZRA=15
> G=1
> GALATIANS=48
> GENESIS=1
> H=58
> HABAKKUK=35
> HAGGAI=37
> HEBREWS=58
> HOSEA=28
> I C=46
> I CHRONICLES=13
> I CORINTHIANS=46
> I JN=62
> I JOHN=62
> I KGS=11
> I KINGS=11
> I PETER=60
> I PTR=60
> I SAMUEL=9
> I THESSALONIANS=52
> I TIMOTHY=54
> IC=46
> ICHRONICLES=13
> ICORINTHIANS=46
> II C=47
> II CHRONICLES=14
> II CORINTHIANS=47
> II JN=63
> II JOHN=63
> II KGS=12
> II KINGS=12
> II PETER=61
> II PTR=61
> II SAMUEL=10
> II THESSALONIANS=53
> II TIMOTHY=55
> IIC=47
> IICHRONICLES=14
> IICORINTHIANS=47
> III JN=64
> III JOHN=64
> IIIJN=64
> IIIJOHN=64
> IIJN=63
> IIJOHN=63
> IIKGS=12
> IIKINGS=12
> IIPETER=61
> IIPTR=61
> IISAMUEL=10
> IITHESSALONIANS=53
> IITIMOTHY=55
> IJN=62
> IJOHN=62
> IKGS=11
> IKINGS=11
> IPETER=60
> IPTR=60
> ISA=23
> ISAIAH=23
> ISAMUEL=9
> ITHESSALONIANS=52
> ITIMOTHY=54
> J=43
> JAMES=59
> JAS=59
> JEREMIAH=24
> JN=43
> JO=43
> JOB=18
> JOEL=29
> JOHN=43
> JONAH=32
> JOSHUA=6
> JUD=7
> JUDE=65
> JUDGES=7
> L=42
> LAMENTATIONS=25
> LEVITICUS=3
> LK=42
> LUKE=42
> MA=40
> MALACHI=39
> MARK=41
> MATTHEW=40
> MICAH=33
> MK=41
> MR=41
> MT=40
> N=4
> NAHUM=34
> NEHEMIAH=16
> NUMBERS=4
> OBADIAH=31
> P=19
> PH=50
> PHILEMON=57
> PHILIPPIANS=50
> PHM=57
> PHP=50
> PROVERBS=20
> PSALMS=19
> PSM=19
> PSS=19
> REVELATION OF JOHN=66
> ROMANS=45
> RUTH=8
> SONG OF SOLOMON=22
> SONG OF SONGS=22
> SOS=22
> TITUS=56
> ZECHARIAH=38
> ZEPHANIAH=36
>
> 1. MOOS=1
> 2. MOOS=2
> 3. MOOS=3
> 4. MOOS=4
> 5. MOOS=5
> JOOS=6
> TUOM=7
> RUUT=8
> 1. SAM=9
> 2. SAM=10
> 1. KUN=11
> 2. KUN=12
> 1. AIK=13
> 2. AIK=14
> ESRA=15
> NEH=16
> EST=17
> JOB=18
> PS=19
> SANANL=20
> SAARN=21
> LAULL=22
> JES=23
> JER=24
> VALIT=25
> HESL=26
> DAN=27
> HOOS=28
> JOEL=29
> AAM=30
> OB=31
> JOONA=32
> MIIKA=33
> NAH=34
> HAB=35
> SEF=36
> HAGG=37
> SAK=38
> MAL=39
> MATT=40
> MARK=41
> LUUK=42
> JOH=43
> APT=44
> ROOM=45
> 1. KOR=46
> 2. KOR=47
> GAL=48
> EF=49
> FIL=50
> KOL=51
> 1. TESS=52
> 2. TESS=53
> 1. TIM=54
> 2. TIM=55
> TIT=56
> FILEM=57
> HEPR=58
> JAAK=59
> 1. PIET=60
> 2. PIET=61
> 1. JOH=62
> 2. JOH=63
> 3. JOH=64
> JUUD=65
> ILM=66
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
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> SG 207 ! http://www.iki.fi/puhuri/
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 03:06:35 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Bobby Nations)
Date: 24 Jan 2002 21:06:35 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] unti test classes for JSword
In-Reply-To: <1010921197.16096.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1010921197.16096.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1011927997.1291.2.camel@amos>
All,
Ok, it's almost two weeks since I submitted the three files in this
thread, and I still don't see them in CVS. What would it take to get
priveledges to the CVS server so that I could continue working on the
JSword port? It's getting a little old waiting.
Please if anyone else is still working on JSword, let me know because
I'd like to be able to email questions without necessarily going through
the mailing list. Brainstorming type stuff.
Thanks,
Bobby
On Sun, 2002-01-13 at 05:26, Bobby Nations wrote:
> All,
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> I've made some progress on getting the unit test classes up and going on
> the JSword project. Attached are two test classes along with a new ant
> build containing targets to run all test cases and generate reports on
> their results. The target names are 'test' and 'results' respectively.
> In order to run the results target, you'll need two jar files from the
> apache group's xalan xml project, xalan.jar and xerces.jar, to be either
> in your CLASSPATH or in the ANT_HOME/lib directory. I'm working with
> them to get this requirement removed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bobby
>
> P.S. Is anyone else working on JSword?
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> // CanonTest.java
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> package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
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> import junit.framework.TestCase;
> import junit.framework.TestSuite;
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> /**
> * CanonTest (Copyright 2001 )
> *
> * This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
> *
> * @author Bobby Nations
> * @date $Date: $
> * @version $Revision: $
> *
> * @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.Canon
> * @see some.other.package
> */
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> public class CanonTest extends TestCase
> {
> /**
> * Constructor (needed for JTest)
> * @param name Name of Object
> */
> public CanonTest(String name) {
> super(name);
> }
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> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
> */
> protected void setUp() {
> canon = new Canon();
> }
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> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
> */
> protected void tearDown() {
> canon = null;
> }
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> * Test the constructor: Canon()
> */
> public void testCanon() {
> }
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> /**
> * Test the old testament books array #1
> */
> public void testOTBooks1() {
> assertTrue( "Genesis" == canon.otbooks[0].name );
> assertTrue( 50 == canon.otbooks[0].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the old testament books array #2
> */
> public void testOTBooks2() {
> assertTrue( "Psalms" == canon.otbooks[18].name );
> assertTrue( 150 == canon.otbooks[18].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the old testament books array #3
> */
> public void testOTBooks3() {
> assertTrue( "Malachi" == canon.otbooks[38].name );
> assertTrue( 4 == canon.otbooks[38].chapmax );
> }
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> * Test the new testament books array length
> */
> public void testOTBooksLength() {
> assertTrue( 39 == canon.otbooks.length );
> }
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> * Test the new testament books array #1
> */
> public void testNTBooks1() {
> assertTrue( "Matthew" == canon.ntbooks[0].name );
> assertTrue( 28 == canon.ntbooks[0].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array #2
> */
> public void testNTBooks2() {
> assertTrue( "Titus" == canon.ntbooks[16].name );
> assertTrue( 3 == canon.ntbooks[16].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array #3
> */
> public void testNTBooks3() {
> assertTrue( "Revelation of John" == canon.ntbooks[26].name );
> assertTrue( 22 == canon.ntbooks[26].chapmax );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the new testament books array length
> */
> public void testNTBooksLength() {
> assertTrue( 27 == canon.ntbooks.length );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #1
> */
> public void testAbbrevs1() {
> assertTrue( "1 C" == canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].ab );
> assertTrue( 46 == canon.builtin_abbrevs[0].book );
> }
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> /**
> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #2
> */
> public void testAbbrevs2() {
> assertTrue( "PSALMS" == canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].ab );
> assertTrue( 19 == canon.builtin_abbrevs[170].book );
> }
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> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #3
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> public void testAbbrevs3() {
> int n = canon.builtin_abbrevs.length;
> assertTrue( "" == canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].ab );
> assertTrue( -1 == canon.builtin_abbrevs[n-1].book );
> }
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> * Test the abbreviations for all books array #4
> */
> public void testAbbrevsLength() {
> assertTrue( 184 == canon.builtin_abbrevs.length );
> }
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> * Main method needed to make a self runnable class
> *
> * @param args This is required for main method
> */
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(CanonTest.class) );
> }
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> private Canon canon;
> }
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> // SWKeyTest.java
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> package org.crosswire.sword.keys;
>
> import junit.framework.TestCase;
> import junit.framework.TestSuite;
>
> /**
> * SWKeyTest (Copyright 2001 )
> *
> * This class performs unit tests on org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
> *
> * Explanation about the tested class and its responsibilities
> *
> * Relations:
> * SWKey extends java.lang.Object
> * SWKey implements java.lang.Cloneable, java.lang.Comparable
> *
> * @author -
> * @date $Date: $
> * @version $Revision: $
> *
> * @see org.crosswire.sword.keys.SWKey
> * @see some.other.package
> */
>
> public class SWKeyTest extends TestCase
> {
>
> /**
> * Constructor (needed for JTest)
> * @param name Name of Object
> */
> public SWKeyTest(String name) {
> super(name);
> }
>
> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called before each test method)
> */
> protected void setUp() {
> //swkey = new SWKey();
> }
>
> /**
> * Used by JUnit (called after each test method)
> */
> protected void tearDown() {
> swkey = null;
> }
>
> /**
> * Test the constructor: SWKey()
> */
> public void testSWKey() {
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> }
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> /**
> * Test the constructor: SWKey(String)
> */
> public void testSWKey_1() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> String str [] = {null, "\u0000", " "};
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> }
>
> /**
> * Test the constructor: SWKey(SWKey)
> */
> public void testSWKey_2() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> //SWKey;
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: int compareTo(Object)
> */
> public void testCompareTo() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> Object oValues [] = { null };
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: java.lang.Object clone()
> */
> public void testClone() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: String toString()
> */
> public void testToString() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void set(SWKey)
> */
> public void testSet() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> //SWKey;
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void next(int)
> */
> public void testNext_1() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> int intValues [] = {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void next()
> */
> public void testNext() {
>
> }
>
> /**
> * Test method: void previous(int)
> */
> public void testPrevious_1() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> int intValues [] = {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
>
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>
> /**
> * Test method: void previous()
> */
> public void testPrevious() {
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> /**
> * Test method: String getText()
> */
> public void testGetText() {
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> /**
> * Test method: int getError()
> */
> public void testGetError() {
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> /**
> * Test method: void position(int)
> */
> public void testPosition() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> int intValues [] = {-1, 0, 1, Integer.MAX_VALUE, Integer.MIN_VALUE};
>
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>
> /**
> * Test method: boolean isPersist()
> */
> public void testIsPersist() {
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>
> /**
> * Test method: void setPersist(boolean)
> */
> public void testSetPersist() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> boolean BValues [] = { true, false };
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>
> /**
> * Test method: boolean traversable()
> */
> public void testTraversable() {
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>
> /**
> * Test method: void setText(String)
> */
> public void testSetText() {
> //Must test for the following parameters!
> String str [] = {null, "\u0000", " "};
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>
> /**
> * Main method needed to make a self runnable class
> *
> * @param args This is required for main method
> */
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> junit.textui.TestRunner.run( new TestSuite(SWKeyTest.class) );
> }
> private SWKey swkey;
> }
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 08:15:17 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:15:17 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <200201242153.OAA32131@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000601c1a578$7129fc00$773395a6@DIASPORA>
> Well done, Chris ;)
> But don't force Troy to write code if he's so tired. Code may
> get worse :)
Actually, I had gone to bed by 12 like a good little boy who knew he had
to be up for a meeting at 9. Troy on the other hand....
> Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used?
> Would be cool.
Yes. Yes it would. :)
Unfortunately only a small subset of the CCEL texts are in ThML, but you
could all go help Harry out by converting the rest into ThML. :)
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 10:12:47 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (mcp)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 6:12:47 EDT
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
Message-ID: <101195356801@mail1.emumail.net>
hey folks
more graphics: http://members.truepath.com/matt1260/sword/index.html
Please take what gfx you will, I won't leave them up forever.. I will create more graphics soon. I guess I'll just create stuff as I think up things, and you can make use of what you will...
blessyah!
Matt
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 13:17:37 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:17:37 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <000601c1a578$7129fc00$773395a6@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <004e01c1a5a2$a8c5b9e0$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
> > Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used?
> > Would be cool.
>
> Yes. Yes it would. :)
> Unfortunately only a small subset of the CCEL texts are in ThML, but you
> could all go help Harry out by converting the rest into ThML. :)
EXACTLY! :D There are only a small group of programmers working on Sword,
but I think many many more people out there are capable of tagging texts
with ThML mark up. Anyone can do that. Once we have a ThML manager/viewer I
think that many more people would join the effort of placing texts into
ThML. It would not be long before Sword could boast of having more texts
available in their format than Logos or QuickVerse.
I am just wondering, since this jump to general book support is so huge,
wouldn't it warrant a 2.0 designation?
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 13:51:49 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Todd Pedlar)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:51:49 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
References: <004e01c1a5a2$a8c5b9e0$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Message-ID: <059201c1a5a7$71434500$612f5480@lns.cornell.edu>
CCEL has a lot of nice tools for converting to ThML, too. Are we really
going in this direction with Sword? :) :) That would be really great...
I'd like to get into the ThML side if we're moving there... just let me
know what you see as priorities
todd
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From: "Don A. Elbourne Jr."
To:
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [sword-devel] General Book Support
> > > Does the ThML-Importer mean that CCel texts can be used?
> > > Would be cool.
> >
> > Yes. Yes it would. :)
> > Unfortunately only a small subset of the CCEL texts are in ThML, but you
> > could all go help Harry out by converting the rest into ThML. :)
>
>
> EXACTLY! :D There are only a small group of programmers working on Sword,
> but I think many many more people out there are capable of tagging texts
> with ThML mark up. Anyone can do that. Once we have a ThML manager/viewer
I
> think that many more people would join the effort of placing texts into
> ThML. It would not be long before Sword could boast of having more texts
> available in their format than Logos or QuickVerse.
>
> I am just wondering, since this jump to general book support is so huge,
> wouldn't it warrant a 2.0 designation?
>
>
> by grace alone,
>
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 16:38:22 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:38:22 -0000
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <200201182244.g0IMiOT01762@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost>
On 18 Jan 2002 at 16:44, Jerry Kreps sent forth the message:
> On Friday 18 January 2002 08:53, you wrote:
> > According to this bug on sourceforge
> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=505134&gro
> >up_i d=9516&atid=109516
> >
> > gettext is already defined as a macro in Redhat 7.2 gcc (see
> > src/utilfuns/regex.c for what it probably is). Looks like it would
> > be best to rename the gettext functions in rawverse, rawstr,
> > rawstr4.
>
> Why design to a specific distro, or against one?
Why have it compile on MSVC, or C++ builder either then?
Because at least some people use those and it should compile out of the box for them. Same
principle for Redhat 7.2
> > It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm not
> > convinced this is the most intuitive name it could be.
> >
> > getText is another option though that would be very prone to typos.
> > Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
>
> These approaches can lead to confusion...
> Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
> icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
Good idea. Don't know anything about c++ namespaces yet myself. anyone?
> Also, I notice that in 11 source files and 6 headers 'extern "C" '
> wraps are being used so g++ won't mangle the C code being wrapped.
> Why not rewrite the C code so it is C++ compliant?
roman.h and roman.c could easily move to cpp afaict
the zlib stuff is a C lib external to sword to it should stay extern "C"
the flatapi stuff needs to be accessed from Kylix so I assume that should stay as it is.
As for stricmp in utilstr.cpp, dunno.
The regex stuff is an optional replacement if the system doesn't have regex.h so I assume that
should stay as is.
I think that is all there is.
> > Maybe readtext describes what it does better, reading the text into
> > a provided buffer rather than returning it?
> >
> > (fwiw I'd go for readtext)
Daniel
P.S. I'd still like to change it to readtext, but that can wait. ;)
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 19:26:08 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:26:08 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <059201c1a5a7$71434500$612f5480@lns.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <000b01c1a5d6$270778b0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
> CCEL has a lot of nice tools for converting to ThML, too.
> Are we really going in this direction with Sword? :) :) That
> would be really great... I'd like to get into the ThML side
> if we're moving there... just let me know what you see as priorities
What we're REALLY moving toward is OSIS, but that's not defined yet.
Until then, we will use ThML. And the path for converting from ThML to
OSIS should not be too difficult if we decide to convert all our content
(and we won't need to do this because we already have a system of using
multiple content markup drivers).
It's been my position since I joined the project and probably was
assumed before I joined that ThML would be used for
non-[Bible|commentary|LD] modules when we supported them. So, go
contribute work to CCEL or markup your own works in ThML.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 19:45:15 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:45:15 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] General Book Support
In-Reply-To: <004e01c1a5a2$a8c5b9e0$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
Message-ID: <000c01c1a5d8$d27ab2a0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
> EXACTLY! :D There are only a small group of programmers
> working on Sword, but I think many many more people out there
> are capable of tagging texts with ThML mark up. Anyone can do
> that. Once we have a ThML manager/viewer I think that many
> more people would join the effort of placing texts into ThML.
> It would not be long before Sword could boast of having more
> texts available in their format than Logos or QuickVerse.
I would like to see 1000 modules complete by year's end. We're about
740 modules from that goal right now. Between everything in OLB and
everything on CCEL, I think we've got a signifigant body of works to
import.
> I am just wondering, since this jump to general book support
> is so huge, wouldn't it warrant a 2.0 designation?
It's not that huge, in terms of the library. :) It's huge in terms of
utility and user experience, but it uses such a similar API to our other
classes that some utilities written for RawText & the other drivers
still work for RawGenBook.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 22:12:54 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:12:54 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
In-Reply-To: <101195356801@mail1.emumail.net>
References: <101195356801@mail1.emumail.net>
Message-ID: <200201252212.g0PMCsr01612@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 25 January 2002 04:12, you wrote:
> hey folks
> more graphics:
> http://members.truepath.com/matt1260/sword/index.html Please take
> what gfx you will, I won't leave them up forever.. I will create
> more graphics soon. I guess I'll just create stuff as I think up
> things, and you can make use of what you will... blessyah!
> Matt
The one at the bottom of the list is beautiful! Numero uno!
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 22:22:34 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:22:34 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost> <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost>
Message-ID: <200201252222.g0PMMYr01687@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 25 January 2002 10:38, you wrote:
[snip]
>
> > > It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but I'm
> > > not convinced this is the most intuitive name it could be.
> > >
> > > getText is another option though that would be very prone to
> > > typos. Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
> >
> > These approaches can lead to confusion...
> > Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
> > icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
>
> Good idea. Don't know anything about c++ namespaces yet myself.
> anyone?
file:/home/jerry/TICPP/V1/Frames-expanded-TOC.html
And do a find on 'namespace' in the left panel. The concept is as
easy as falling off a log, and eliminates a lot of possible problems
with name collisions.
JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Fri Jan 25 23:05:31 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Don A. Elbourne Jr.)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
In-Reply-To: <200201252212.g0PMCsr01612@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <000201c1a5f4$c96f4380$832d0b44@no.cox.net>
You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a graphic
with Tux reading a Bible. :)
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 01:10:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (mcp)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:10:24 EDT
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
Message-ID: <101200742901@mail1.emumail.net>
who is Tux?
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600 "Don A. Elbourne Jr." wrote:
> You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a
> graphic
> with Tux reading a Bible. :)
>
> Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> http://elbourne.org
>
------------------------
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mpennock@mygfa.org
http://members.truepath.com/matt1260
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 01:52:07 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Burry)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:52:07 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] more graphics
References: <101200742901@mail1.emumail.net>
Message-ID: <3C520BC6.1BB6F693@tagnet.org>
Tux is the little linux penguin dude...
Dave
mcp wrote:
> who is Tux?
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:05:31 -0600 "Don A. Elbourne Jr." wrote:
>
> > You know what I always thought would be cool? I would love to see a
> > graphic
> > with Tux reading a Bible. :)
> >
> > Don A. Elbourne Jr.
> > http://elbourne.org
> >
>
> ------------------------
> Matt Pennock
> mpennock@mygfa.org
> http://members.truepath.com/matt1260
> ____________________________________________________
> FREE Book from Gospel for Asia: http://www.gfa.org/myfb
> Sign up for FREE e-mail: http://www.gfa.org/mygfa
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 03:38:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Jerry Kreps)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:38:14 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] RawVerse::gettext etc
In-Reply-To: <200201252222.g0PMMYr01687@jerrykreps.athome>
References: <3C4836FC.11880.55F4016@localhost> <3C5189FE.27223.5972D97@localhost> <200201252222.g0PMMYr01687@jerrykreps.athome>
Message-ID: <200201260338.g0Q3cEr03527@jerrykreps.athome>
On Friday 25 January 2002 16:22, you wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2002 10:38, you wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > > It already has a different name in zverse (swgettext), but
> > > > I'm not convinced this is the most intuitive name it could
> > > > be.
> > > >
> > > > getText is another option though that would be very prone to
> > > > typos. Or alternatively we could #undef gettext in defs.h.
> > >
> > > These approaches can lead to confusion...
> > > Why not use the C++ namespace capability, that is what it was
> > > icnluded for. Call it 'swordspace' or something like that...
> >
> > Good idea. Don't know anything about c++ namespaces yet myself.
> > anyone?
>
> file:/home/jerry/TICPP/V1/Frames-expanded-TOC.html
Opps! SHould be:
http://celestrion.totalaccess.net/docs/eckel/tic1/html/
> And do a find on 'namespace' in the left panel. The concept is as
> easy as falling off a log, and eliminates a lot of possible
> problems with name collisions.
> JLK
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 08:16:48 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:16:48 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
Message-ID: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
Hey guys,
Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
"/Introduction"
or
"/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
warring schemes to make you fall:
(NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
My righteous right hand.'
11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
shall perish.
12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
thing.
13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
'Fear not, I will help you.'
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 11:06:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:06:36 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201261219.FAA18287@www.crosswire.org>
Hi Troy,
tried it. I get this:
joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # mkdir testmodul
joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # ./genbooktest testmodul/mybook
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Error: 2: No such file or directory
Segmentation fault
Using "dir" I see these two new files in /work/devel/cvs/sword/tests:
-rw------- 1 root root 15 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.dat
-rw------- 1 root root 4 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.idx
Maybe this helps you more than my previous report,
Joachim
> Hey guys,
> Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
>
> "/Introduction"
>
> or
>
> "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
>
>
> Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
>
> In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> warring schemes to make you fall:
>
>
> (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> My righteous right hand.'
> 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> shall perish.
> 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> thing.
> 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> 'Fear not, I will help you.'
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 13:39:28 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:39:28 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Olb2Sword
Message-ID: <200201261345.GAA18646@www.crosswire.org>
Hi!
Does somebody know where the old2sword utilitie is? Or are there better tools
now?
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 14:02:40 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:02:40 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <200201261219.FAA18287@www.crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org> <200201261219.FAA18287@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <200201261408.HAA18893@www.crosswire.org>
got it, checking in now (the name testmodul/mybook was being deleted before
being used to create the new indexes)
Thanks,
Daniel
On Saturday 26 Jan 2002 11:06 am, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> Hi Troy,
> tried it. I get this:
>
> joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # mkdir testmodul
> joachim:/work/devel/cvs/sword/tests # ./genbooktest testmodul/mybook
> Error: 2: No such file or directory
> Error: 2: No such file or directory
> Error: 2: No such file or directory
> Segmentation fault
>
> Using "dir" I see these two new files in /work/devel/cvs/sword/tests:
>
> -rw------- 1 root root 15 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.dat
> -rw------- 1 root root 4 Jan 26 12:05 ?q9@?q9@?.idx
>
> Maybe this helps you more than my previous report,
>
> Joachim
>
> > Hey guys,
> > Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> > behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
> >
> > "/Introduction"
> >
> > or
> >
> > "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
> >
> >
> > Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
> >
> > In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> > of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> > Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> > through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> > warring schemes to make you fall:
> >
> >
> > (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> > And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> > servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> > 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> > God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> > My righteous right hand.'
> > 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> > and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> > shall perish.
> > 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> > you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> > thing.
> > 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> > 'Fear not, I will help you.'
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 16:28:23 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 26 Jan 2002 11:28:23 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1012062505.1927.8.camel@office>
Troy,
Don't know if it's me or the GBS stuff.
this all seems to be working ok:
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > p
MyBook/
Introduction/
Chapter 1/
==> 1.1 What's this?/
1.2 Good info!/
Chapter 2/
Chapter 3/
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
But when I add text it adds it ok but when I try 'v - view entry text'
It always displays the first entry.
[MyBook/Introduction] > v
This is the introduction to MyBook.
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > v
This is the introduction to MyBook.
[MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
Have I missed something?
On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 03:16, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
>
> "/Introduction"
>
> or
>
> "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
>
>
> Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
>
> In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> warring schemes to make you fall:
>
>
> (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> My righteous right hand.'
> 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> shall perish.
> 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> thing.
> 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> 'Fear not, I will help you.'
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:33:24 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Chris Little)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:33:24 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Olb2Sword
In-Reply-To: <200201261345.GAA18646@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <000401c1a6ca$5e049dd0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
> Does somebody know where the old2sword utilitie is? Or are
> there better tools
> now?
olb2sword is exclusively for converting DOS OLB modules. I don't
believe there's any need for it any more.
For converting Windows OLB modules, use prn2sword. For everything else,
use vpl2mod or script addvs.
olb2sword and prn2sword should be on the alpha page.
--Chris
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 23:22:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:22:38 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org> <1012062505.1927.8.camel@office>
Message-ID: <3C533A3E.BBBE370C@crosswire.org>
Terry,
Thanks for reporting this. I actually never tried changing the root
node name. This seems to cause troubles. Actually, I'm not sure if we
want to let there be a root node authored information. If you set the
root name back to nothing (just hit enter for the name input prompt), it
seems to make things work again. Tell me what you think about root.
-Troy.
Terry Biggs wrote:
>
> Troy,
>
> Don't know if it's me or the GBS stuff.
> this all seems to be working ok:
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > p
> MyBook/
> Introduction/
> Chapter 1/
> ==> 1.1 What's this?/
> 1.2 Good info!/
> Chapter 2/
> Chapter 3/
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
>
> But when I add text it adds it ok but when I try 'v - view entry text'
> It always displays the first entry.
>
> [MyBook/Introduction] > v
>
> This is the introduction to MyBook.
>
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > v
>
> This is the introduction to MyBook.
> [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
>
> Have I missed something?
>
> On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 03:16, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> > behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
> >
> > "/Introduction"
> >
> > or
> >
> > "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
> >
> >
> > Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
> >
> > In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> > of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> > Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> > through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> > warring schemes to make you fall:
> >
> >
> > (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> > And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> > servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> > 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> > God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> > My righteous right hand.'
> > 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> > and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> > shall perish.
> > 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> > you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> > thing.
> > 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> > 'Fear not, I will help you.'
> >
> --
>
> Terry
>
> Rev 1:5
> "...Unto him that loved us, and washed
> us from our sins in his own blood."
>
>
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sat Jan 26 23:51:04 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:51:04 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Trying to Compile Diatheke on RH 6.2... again.
Message-ID:
Hi everyone,
Well, after giving up several months ago, I decided to try building
Diatheke and Sword as a *user* in RedHat 6.2. After spending a half hour or
so deleting different object files in the src directory, I finally got a
finished sword.a installed in ~/sword/lib (at least I think it's finished).
Anyway, so I finished that, but now I'm back to having problems compiling
diatheke.
When I go into diatheke's directory, and type make, it chugs along for a
few moments, and then says:
----------------
gcc -L../../../lib/ -o diatheke diatheke.o corediatheke.o -lsword
-lstdc++ -lz
corediatheke.o: In function `doquery(int, char, char, char, char const *,
char const *, char const *)':
corediatheke.o(.text+0x2303): undefined reference to
`UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
corediatheke.o(.text+0x29b7): undefined reference to
`UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
-----------------
Any ideas what I need to do?
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:31:21 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Daniel Glassey)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:31:21 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Trying to Compile Diatheke on RH 6.2... again.
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <200201270037.RAA27330@www.crosswire.org>
you need to add a line to src/modules/filters/Makefile
cpp += unicodertf.cpp
This was missing in sword 1.5.2 so I assume that's what you are using
hth,
Daniel
On Saturday 26 Jan 2002 11:51 pm, you wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Well, after giving up several months ago, I decided to try building
> Diatheke and Sword as a *user* in RedHat 6.2. After spending a half hour or
> so deleting different object files in the src directory, I finally got a
> finished sword.a installed in ~/sword/lib (at least I think it's finished).
> Anyway, so I finished that, but now I'm back to having problems compiling
> diatheke.
> When I go into diatheke's directory, and type make, it chugs along for a
> few moments, and then says:
>
> ----------------
> gcc -L../../../lib/ -o diatheke diatheke.o corediatheke.o -lsword
> -lstdc++ -lz
> corediatheke.o: In function `doquery(int, char, char, char, char const *,
> char const *, char const *)':
> corediatheke.o(.text+0x2303): undefined reference to
> `UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
> corediatheke.o(.text+0x29b7): undefined reference to
> `UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)'
> -----------------
>
> Any ideas what I need to do?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:45:25 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:45:25 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Trying to Compile Diatheke on RH 6.2... again.
In-Reply-To: <200201270037.RAA27330@www.crosswire.org>
References: <200201270037.RAA27330@www.crosswire.org>
Message-ID:
Hi Daniel,
> you need to add a line to src/modules/filters/Makefile
>
> cpp += unicodertf.cpp
>
> This was missing in sword 1.5.2 so I assume that's what you are using
Thanks a ton! That does the trick. :-) Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you!
-Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 00:47:49 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Terry Biggs)
Date: 26 Jan 2002 19:47:49 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] GBS update
In-Reply-To: <3C533A3E.BBBE370C@crosswire.org>
References: <3C5265F0.535CC4D9@crosswire.org>
<1012062505.1927.8.camel@office> <3C533A3E.BBBE370C@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <1012092471.32028.4.camel@office>
On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 18:22, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Terry,
> Thanks for reporting this. I actually never tried changing the root
> node name. This seems to cause troubles. Actually, I'm not sure if we
> want to let there be a root node authored information. If you set the
> root name back to nothing (just hit enter for the name input prompt), it
> seems to make things work again. Tell me what you think about root.
>
> -Troy.
>
>
that did it. It works now.
There is no need to add information to the root node that I can think of
right now. Who knows about tomorrow.
Thanks Troy and GBS is exciting.
>
>
> Terry Biggs wrote:
> >
> > Troy,
> >
> > Don't know if it's me or the GBS stuff.
> > this all seems to be working ok:
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > p
> > MyBook/
> > Introduction/
> > Chapter 1/
> > ==> 1.1 What's this?/
> > 1.2 Good info!/
> > Chapter 2/
> > Chapter 3/
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
> >
> > But when I add text it adds it ok but when I try 'v - view entry text'
> > It always displays the first entry.
> >
> > [MyBook/Introduction] > v
> >
> > This is the introduction to MyBook.
> >
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] > v
> >
> > This is the introduction to MyBook.
> > [MyBook/Chapter 1/1.1 What's this?] >
> >
> > Have I missed something?
> >
> > On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 03:16, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > > Hey guys,
> > > Got some new revs of the GBS stuff in CVS. Should be a little more
> > > behaved now. Also, should handle reparsing of keys, e.g.
> > >
> > > "/Introduction"
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > "/Chapter 1/A New Story/"
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me know if anyone is successful or otherwise.
> > >
> > > In Christ's revelation to us, we now know the much more eternal purpose
> > > of His salvation from an enemy so much more potent than earthly foes.
> > > Never forget God's unfailing Love for you and His promise to uphold you
> > > through your trials, and failures, and to defeat the REAL enemy's
> > > warring schemes to make you fall:
> > >
> > >
> > > (NKJV) Isaiah 41:9 [You] whom I have taken from the ends of the earth,
> > > And called from its farthest regions, And said to you, 'You [are] My
> > > servant, I have chosen you and have not cast you away:
> > > 10 Fear not, for I [am] with you; Be not dismayed, for I [am] your
> > > God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with
> > > My righteous right hand.'
> > > 11 "Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed
> > > and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you
> > > shall perish.
> > > 12 You shall seek them and not find them -- Those who contended with
> > > you. Those who war against you Shall be as nothing, As a nonexistent
> > > thing.
> > > 13 For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you,
> > > 'Fear not, I will help you.'
> > >
> > --
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > Rev 1:5
> > "...Unto him that loved us, and washed
> > us from our sins in his own blood."
> >
> >
>
--
Terry
Rev 1:5
"...Unto him that loved us, and washed
us from our sins in his own blood."
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 01:23:18 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:23:18 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
Message-ID:
Uh, well, now I seem to have Diatheke going, but I'm stumped as how to get it
to work properly. As I noted I'm trying to get this working as a user... is
there anyway to make it look in ~/sword/share for modules and mods.d without
having /etc/sword.conf (since I don't have write access to /etc)?
I've been playing around with the environmental variable "SWORD_PATH," but
that doesn't seem to help...
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 01:49:36 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:49:36 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
I think I got it... I just went mods.conf rather than using mods.d.
-Tim
On Saturday 26 January 2002 07:23 pm, you wrote:
> Uh, well, now I seem to have Diatheke going, but I'm stumped as how to get
> it to work properly. As I noted I'm trying to get this working as a user...
> is there anyway to make it look in ~/sword/share for modules and mods.d
> without having /etc/sword.conf (since I don't have write access to /etc)?
>
> I've been playing around with the environmental variable "SWORD_PATH," but
> that doesn't seem to help...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 02:19:10 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Timothy R. Butler)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:19:10 -0600
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Well, I feel rather foolish replying to my self again, but here we go:
I setup diatheke, and it seems to be able to find the ASV... but... I can't
seem to get verses to come up right. For instance, if I type:
/home/uninet/sword/bin/diatheke -l en -m 50 -f thml -b ASV -k "Gen 1:1"
(i.e. the command passed from Diatheke/CGI), I get this as the output:
Genesis 1:1:
Any ideas? :-)
Thanks,
Tim
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 12:20:38 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:20:38 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Olb2Sword
In-Reply-To: <000401c1a6ca$5e049dd0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
References: <000401c1a6ca$5e049dd0$2d0314ac@DIASPORA>
Message-ID: <200201271227.FAA00611@www.crosswire.org>
Hi Chris!
Thank you for your answer!
Could you please send me the URL of the alpha page to my private eMail
adress? Otherwise the URL for the keys would be in the eMail archives. Or are
the keys not there any longer?
> > Does somebody know where the old2sword utilitie is? Or are
> > there better tools
> > now?
>
> olb2sword is exclusively for converting DOS OLB modules. I don't
> believe there's any need for it any more.
>
> For converting Windows OLB modules, use prn2sword. For everything else,
> use vpl2mod or script addvs.
>
> olb2sword and prn2sword should be on the alpha page.
Thank you!
Joachim
From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 16:54:43 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Troy A. Griffitts)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:54:43 -0700
Subject: [sword-devel] Stupid Path Question
References:
Message-ID: <3C5430D3.B8066AE4@crosswire.org>
Timothy,
Still seems to be a path issue.
The API looks for its module configuration in the following sequence:
./mods.[conf|d]
$SWORD_PATH/mods.[conf|d]
$HOME/.sword/mods.[conf|d]
or finally from information found in a system-wide configuration
file
/etc/sword.conf in the format:
[Install]
DataPath=/where/your/datafiles/are/installed
then the API will look for ${DataPath}/mods.[conf|d]
hope this helps. PS. The DataPath in the .conf points to a path
RELATIVE to where the library finds as it's base directory for modules.
Hope this helps. Let me know.
-Troy.
"Timothy R. Butler" wrote:
>
> Well, I feel rather foolish replying to my self again, but here we go:
>
> I setup diatheke, and it seems to be able to find the ASV... but... I can't
> seem to get verses to come up right. For instance, if I type:
>
> /home/uninet/sword/bin/diatheke -l en -m 50 -f thml -b ASV -k "Gen 1:1"
>
> (i.e. the command passed from Diatheke/CGI), I get this as the output:
>
> Genesis 1:1:
>
> Any ideas? :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Sun Jan 27 21:44:14 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (David Trotz)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:44:14 -0800
Subject: [sword-devel] Missing text in Wesley Module
Message-ID: <001a01c1a77b$cee0cea0$0100007f@localhost>
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I was using Sword for my devotions this morning when I noticed that =
there is
missing text in John Wesley's Notes. Isaiah 22:13 starts like this:
Let us,
Thats it nothing else, not a big deal but I though I should report it
anyway.
In Christ,
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I was using Sword for my devotions this =
morning=20
when I noticed that there is
missing text in John Wesley's Notes. =
Isaiah=20
22:13 starts like this:
Let us,
Thats it nothing else, not a big deal =
but I though=20
I should report it
anyway.
In Christ,
David Trotz
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> >
> > Any ideas? :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
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From sword-devel@crosswire.org Mon Jan 28 10:15:52 2002
From: sword-devel@crosswire.org (Joachim Ansorg)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:15:52 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] BUG: VerseKey::setLocale doesn't work properly
Message-ID: <200201281156.EAA07655@www.crosswire.org>
Send this message some days ago, but nobody replied ...
Joachim
---------------------
Hi!
While working on BibleTime's verse parsing I noticed some bad behaviour of
VerseKey::setLocale.
Have a look at this piece of code:
VerseKey bla;
bla = "James 1:19";
bla.setLocale("de");
cout << bla << endl;
bla = "Johannes 1:1";
cout << bla << endl;
The output of this is:
Jakobus 1:19
Offenbarung 22:21
The first one (Jakobus 1:1, which is James 1:19 in english) is correct. But
if I equate the VerseKey object after changing the locale with a german book
name (Johannes 1:1, which is John 1:1 in english) is returns all the time
Revelation 22:21.
Since it returns all the time the last verse Revelation after chaning the
locale I think something's wrong here.
Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?
Thank you very much for your support!
Joachim