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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We don't have to do any of this is we
are already going to have a liferay installation setup. I don't
think I've done any specific forum administration except initially
creating the topics 2 years ago on our current site.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Looking forward to your explanation.
I've played with myBB briefly. From an admins perspective here is what I found:
Depends upon LAMP (where P is php) which is what wikipedia uses and is common to most linux installations. So dependencies are satisfied w/o additional packages, installation or setup.
Small download.
Install is merely unzipping and changing permissions.
Setup consists of three parts:
Create a mysql database and user with appropriate grants for that database.
Simple http entry.
Run install via webpage.
Total time 10 minutes.
It satisfies a particular admin goal that I have: admin simplicity not requiring any special skills.
-- DM
On Nov 21, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Troy A. Griffitts <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"><scribe@crosswire.org></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Presentation in a few hours, no time to respond in detail.
I'd lke the opportunity to convince you of the benefit of the big picture of having a collaborative online community building new datasets and managing their own projects with a set of expanding specialized tools for these projects.
In the meantime, check out the liferay forum link I sent:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.liferay.com/community/forums">http://www.liferay.com/community/forums</a>
It supports all of what you list and I would suggest is better supported than myBB forum. Liferay is an enterprise portal solution with an opensource edition. It is used by Barclays, Sesame Street, Toyota, Cisco, T-Mobile and other large companies. It is the primary portal installation offered by Redhat OpenShift:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openshift.com/developers/java">https://www.openshift.com/developers/java</a>
Ubuntu JuJu:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jujucharms.com/">https://jujucharms.com/</a>
and others.
I believe it is a good choice for all the reasons you list and more. Gotta run for now.
Troy
On 11/21/2013 02:40 PM, Chris Little wrote:
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<pre wrap="">This seems like a really bad idea. The reason for choosing mvnForum was that it was built on JSP & Firebird. That wasn't a particularly good reasons to choose it as a forum solution, and now we have poorly supported forum software.
Troy, it sounds like you're proposing we choose another solution on the basis of its underlying technology rather than its actual functional merits. I really can't see any value to searching for forum software that can function as a portlet. And if we switch to another poorly supported, unpopular forum solution, we're going to be in exactly the same situation within a few years as we're in now.
Our requirements are fairly limited:
free, open, mature, & maintained software
support for threads & quoting
support for spam blocking, better CAPTCHAs, & good user management
MyBB seems to fit that bill well enough. And picking a popular solution like myBB is probably more important than all of these since we can benefit from plugins, regular updates, etc.
FWIW I don't think we should worry about migrating the existing forum content over. We can leave registrations disabled (which tentatively appears to have eliminated the server pegging issue--jira is the current top CPU consumer, with fbserver not visible when I run top). When we have new forums up, we can disable logins to mvnForum. And in a year or so, I wouldn't object to our nuking mvnForum from the server altogether.
Also FWIW, I don't particularly see a need to consult with sword-devel. We already had a bit of discussion of forum software, and now I consider it to be an issue for server admins--the people who will actually install & support the forum software.
--Chris
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<pre wrap="">I'd prefer not to take the conversation to sword-devel. Now that I am
done with my project for the INTF, my hope is to utilize the frameworks
I've built for projects at CrossWire. This includes running a liferay
installation which is a fully compliant JSR-168 and 286 portlet
container as well as an OpenSocial container. I'm sure we could find a
forum portlet or use the one that ships with liferay. You can see it
their forums in action on their own site if you'd like to evaluate:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.liferay.com/community/forums">http://www.liferay.com/community/forums</a>
DM Smith <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org"><dmsmith@crosswire.org></a> wrote:
On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Chris Little <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chrislit@crosswire.org"><chrislit@crosswire.org></a> wrote:
On 11/20/2013 11:07 AM, DM Smith wrote:
Do you want me to stop the fb server?
What are the web apps that use it? (besides news and forums)
News can't possibly be creating the problem. For all
practical purposes,
it is read-only.
Can we make the forums read-only and put up a banner that it
is locked down?
-- DM
I disabled new registrations on the servers, which I predict
will prevent the pegging problem.
I couldn't find a sensible way to switch off registrations
through the admin panel, so I went after the addmember.jsp file
itself and moved it to
/home/forums/servers/main/webapps/forums/mvnplugin/mvnforum/user/addmember.bak
--Chris
I've been looking for a replacement. Should we take the discussion to sword-devel?
I think the key features that people have mentioned are:
Something that is actively maintained.
Something that does threading and quoting.
Something w/ decent spam and user management support.
Must work on RHEL 6. Good if it is part of the distribution.
Open source
The most popular db for forums is mysql. Very few work w/ firebird.
I'm willing to be an active admin for the software and database, but not the forum.
If we can come up w/ something to try, I can install it this weekend. Maybe sooner.
How about we try "myBB"?
Seehttp://myBB.com/features
If we want to import current rather than start over empty:
vBulletin can import from mvnForum. It's the only one I could find that handles mvnForum.
myBB can import from vBulletin.
-- DM
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