[osis-users] Some more footnote questions

Markku Pihlaja markku.pihlaja at sempre.fi
Thu Feb 21 08:32:17 MST 2013


Hi again,

Our on-off project with the Finnish translation is on again, now really
focusing on the very last details (I hope!). Working on annotations
(footnotes) now, and coming across a few special cases which I'd appreciate
your advice with.

Actually, I posted two questions about footnotes in December, but the
remained unanswered. One of them did get its answer elsewhere, the other
one is included here in these new questions.


*Case 1) Several references to one footnote in a) one verse, b) two
adjacent verses, c) two non-adjacent verses.*

a):
<verse sID="Job 42:14" osisID="Job.42.14" />Yhdelle tyttärelle hän antoi
nimeksi Jemima*, toiselle Kesia* ja kolmannelle Keren-Puk*.<verse eID="Job
42:14" />

b):
<verse sID="4. Moos. 34:5" osisID="Num.34.5" />kääntyy sitten Egyptin
rajapuroa kohti ja jatkuu sitä pitkin mereen.*<verse eID="4. Moos. 34:5"
/></p>
<p><verse sID="4. Moos. 34:6" osisID="Num.34.6" />»Läntisenä rajana on
Suurimeri rantoineen.* Se on teidän rajanne lännen puolella.

c):
For example in Matt.18.24 and Matt.18.28.


All three asterisks in a) refer to the same footnote that explains the
meaning of each name. In b), both the asterisk in 34:5 and the asterisk in
34:6 refer to the same footnote, and in c), there is an asterisk both in
verse 24 and verse 28, but one common footnote for both.

Should I just place one note tag for example at the last or first asterisk?
In a future implementation where you click on the asterisk to see the
footnote, that would then leave the other asterisks unlinked and inactive.
Duplicating the note would certainly not be good practice, would it?


*Case 2) How would you form the osisID for the footnote in *
- case 1a)
- case 1b)
- case 1c)
I believe the osisRef is obvious in all cases.

My osisID format for a normal footnote is for example "John.1.39!note".
Depending on the solution to case 1), the osisID for that might be
identical to the normal case. But how about 2) and 3)?
 "Num.34.5 Num.34.6!note" looks like the note is just in verse 6,
"Num.34.5!note Num.34.6!note" on the other hand looks like two notes. Or
should I ignore (in the osisID) the fact that the note refers to a longer
range and just use (the first?) one of the verses where it is placed - and
let osisRef take care of that extra info about several verses? Or do still
something else?


*Case 3) If I have a footnote that explains a range two (OR MORE) adjacent
verses and obviously has the asterisk once somewhere in the range, how
should the markup look?*

<verse sID="Matt. 23:7" osisID="Matt.23.7" />ja ovat hyvillään, kun ihmiset
toreilla tervehtivät heitä ja kutsuvat heitä rabbiksi*.<verse eID="Matt.
23:7" /></p>
<p><verse sID="Matt. 23:8" osisID="Matt.23.8" />»Älkää te antako kutsua
itseänne rabbiksi, sillä teillä on vain yksi opettaja ja te olette kaikki
veljiä.<verse eID="Matt. 23:8" />


Here, the note applies to the whole range of verses 7 and 8, even though
the asterisk is just at the end of 7.

I'd guess the osisRef for the note to be "Matt.23.7-Matt.23.8", but what
about the osisID? Should it contain the info about the longer range or
should it just contain the one verse it happens to be positioned in (and
again let the osisRef indicate the info about several verses)?

*Case 4) As in 3), but the note explains two (really) separate verses
instead of a contiguous range.*

Exod.33.19 and Exod.34.5 both talk about "Jahve", and the footnote explains
that name. However, the asterisk is only in 33.19. In a print Bible, the
footnote for 33.19 at the bottom of the page mentions both verses.

Also, a footnote for Rom.1.1 and Rom.1.7 (marked by an asterisk only at
1.7) explains that the beginning of 1.7 has been moved to end of 1.1.

*Case 5) The asterisk for the footnote is inside a title before (and
outside) the actual verse or range it refers to.*

<title type="sub" level="4">Uudenvuodenjuhla*</title>
<p><verse sID="3. Moos. 23:23" osisID="Lev.23.23" />Herra sanoi
Moosekselle:<verse
eID="3. Moos. 23:23" />...


I guess this is a trivial case, just checking: I'd use osisID
"Lev.23.23!note" and osisRef that indicates the range that the note refers
to.


Once again, thanks in advance!

Markku
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