[osis-core] Add <verse> to <inscription>

[Steven J. DeRose]

At 07:06 -0600 2004-06-14, Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>Patrick and Kees,
>
>The case that I am certain occurs is where the end of an <inscription>
>and the end of a <verse> (almost always a milestone) coincide. 
>
>In general we have not specified a guideline(s) regarding what to do
>with overlapping hierarchies when their starting and ending boundaries
>coincide.

True; I think we should state it as a requirement that when overlap 
is gratuitous (that is, when there are 2 or more indifferent 
placements for a start or end milestone), then the milestone should 
be placed so as to avoid overlap between the pseudo-element and any 
regular element(s).

>
>The following is not possible with the current schema:
><verse osisID="..." sID="A"/>...<inscription>.........<verse
>eID="A"/></inscription>.
>
>I don't think there has been very much experience with using
><inscription> because it is one of the elements that often requires
>manual intervention when converting from SFM/USFM (where the many of the
>text are originating from) to OSIS.  As we see greater use I think we
>will see cases where a <verse> starts in the middle of an <inscription>.
>
>Kees, can you comment on the possibility/likelihood of a verse starting
>in the middle of an <inscription>?
>
>Todd

That seems a different question than is posed by the example above -- 
also a good question, though. I think it doesn't happen among the 
handful of inscriptions in the Bible. And though it will surely show 
up in the Pseudepigrapha or some completely non-Biblical historical 
source, perhaps they won't have verses. I'm ok either way on this one.

>
>
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: osis-core-bounces at bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
>>  bounces at bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
>>  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:03 PM
>>  To: osis-core at bibletechnologieswg.org
>>  Subject: Re: [osis-core] Add <verse> to <inscription>
>>
>>  Todd,
>>
>>  Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>>  > Can we add <verse> to <inscription>, so that a verse can start/end
>>  > within an inscription?
>>  >
>>
>>  Do you have an example of this?
>>
>>  In other words, an inscription that contains a verse (the thing in
>>  itself) as opposed to the typography of someone recording such a
>thing?
>>  (Is there a difference?)
>>
>>  To illustrate:
>>
>>  On the wall of my office: <inscription> Patrick likes to quote the
>>  Bible, where it says: <verse>Why do you call for the day of the
>>  Lord?</verse><verse>The day of the Lord is darkness and not
>>  light.</verse></inscription>
>>
>>  That is a verse appears in an incription that someone may be reporting
>>  in a text and the markup reflects the structure of the inscription as
>>  observed.
>>
>>  Does that make any sense?
>>
>>  Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>>  Patrick
>>
>>
>>  > Todd
>>  >
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