[osis-core] <resp>

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:56:58 -0600


Does the including of "who" and "what" lead to a need to define
somewhere (likely in the header) what is meant by "who" and "what"?

If I put DTT (my initials) for the "who" we need some place to define
who is "DTT".  Same thing for "what".

Todd

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> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:03 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] <resp>
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I talked to Troy late yesterday (my time anyway) about this issue.
> 
> As I understand his example, he wants to record what (Strong's
numbers)
> were entered by who (person) and the date of entry, along wtih the who
> (person) proofed (correction/approval of Strong's numbers) and the
date.
> 
> Since this is production information that will not appear in a public
> version of the text, or well, need not appear, I suggested creating an
> extension to the schema to allow an element to hold this information.
> After reading your post, there really isn't any reason to not use the
> resp attribute, albeit with a little more complex structure than one
> associates with attribute values.
> 
> At first blush I would suggest:
> 
> (((yyyy-mm-dd|who|what)|)?)*
> 
> being required in prose and prohibiting the separator "|" (also in
> prose) from appearing in the "who" or "what" portions of the
expression.
> 
> Semantics: applies to the specified "what" inside the element which
> bears the resp attribute.
> 
> Suggest that the "what" be fairly specific, Troy's Strong Numbers is a
> good example. Not much doubt about what was added or proofed.
> 
> Note that you could have any number of dates, whos and whats in the
> string, perhaps addressing different "whats" inside the container.
> 
> I talked to Todd yesterday and I think we may need to have a separate
> technical manual that goes beyond the users manual now under
> construction. I can't imagine this being of interest to anyone hand
> coding texts but would be of interest in production environments.
> 
> Does the solution for resp work for everybody?
> 
> Thoughts on having a separate technical manual?
> 
> Hope everyone is at the start of a great day!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Chris Little wrote:
> > Okay... Troy pointed out to me we already have a resp attribute in
> > globalWith/WithoutType and that it is xs:string.  But he points out
that
> > he doesn't "know how to use it to encode all the information needed:
who
> > / what / when," which points to the need for a best practice
statement
> > for the manual, if not constraint via a pattern.
> >
> > Given that it's already implemented as xs:string, I'm sure the best
> > practice route will be preferrable, though we can probably be fairly
> > confident that no one has actually used the resp attribute to date
in
> > any documents.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> > Chris Little wrote:
> >
> >> Hmm, I find myself in the rather diagreeable position of agreeing
with
> >> Troy. :)
> >>
> >> I'm not sure that he isn't thinking of the resp attribute on
> >> revisionDesc, but I think the availability of resp in any location
> >> would be invaluable for translation & linguistic annotation (the
> >> latter actually being what Troy is using it for here).
> >>
> >> I would argue that it would be better if we could stick it into an
> >> attribute that would be better, though, since it is essentially
> >> information about a container (I assume).
> >>
> >> TEI's version is here:
http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/ref/RESP.htm .
> >> I would suggest something like adding resp to
globalWith/WithoutType
> >> as type xs:string.  Or with a pattern that allows encoding name,
date,
> >> & comment, like Troy's example (e.g. "[A-Za-z0-9
> >>
]+(\|([0-9]{4}\-[0-9]{2}\-[0-9]{2}T[0-9]{2}:[0-9]{2}:[0-9]{2})?\|[A-Za-
> z0-9
> >> \-\:]+)?", using pipe as field divider).
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
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