[osis-core] Continuation quotes - add in <milestone type="continuationQuote"/>

Todd Tillinghast osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:10:46 -0600


Patrick,

Are you talking about rendering or how to encode?

It seems how to render.  I suspect that there are complications in
practice as indicated by Troy's post from Lockman.

It is possible to allow for a <milestone type="continuationQuote"/> IN
ADDATION TO the normal <q> element that marks the start and end of the
quote.  This would cover the case where a single continuous quote starts
in one paragraph and ends in a later paragraph or even section.  There
is little harm in allowing a type attribute on <milestone>.  It could be
ignored and rendered without the continuation quote mark, but it would
prevent people from having to implement complex and likely manually
determined positioning of continuation quote marks.  For these reasons,
I am suggesting that we allow the mechanism.

I would like to stress that I think these milestones SOULD NOT alter in
any way the meaning of the <q> element only allow for a mechanism to
encode the position of a continuation quote mark.

I would not say that best practice would require the usage of these
milestone elements AND that an encoding with them would also be
considered best practice.

I would also say that an application would be conformant if it chooses
to ignore the continuation quote milestones and did its own thing.

Naturally a continuation quote mark milestone would have to occur within
a <q> element and would apply to the <q> element that is its nearest
ancestor.  (Sounds like text for the user manual)

This is not intended to handle the case where a quote is interrupted.

Todd

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:01 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: [osis-core] Continuation quotes
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Talking to Steve on the phone and he had a great idea about the
> continuation quote problem.
> 
> This is the case where a quote starts, end paragraph for example, no
> close quotation marker, then a new line, a continuation quote marker,
> more of the quote and then the closing quote mark (matching the first
one).
> 
> Steve observed that if you have:
> 
> <q>
> <p></p>
> <p></p>
> </q>
> 
> The stylesheet should distinguish a <p> in an open quote and then
insert
> the continuation quote marker.
> 
> Don't know if that will work in all cases but thought it was at least
> worth thinking about and putting a note in the users manual on dealing
> with that case.
> 
> Hope everyone is having a great day!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> --
> Patrick Durusau
> Director of Research and Development
> Society of Biblical Literature
> Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
> Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
> Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
> 
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