[osis-core] Conclusion on <discourseMarker>?

[Todd Tillinghast]

We don't have a strong champion for <discorseMarker>.

I propose we take one of two courses:

1) Not add <discorseMarker> and figure out where it should go and how it
should be used in Aug.

2) Let <discorseMarker> be a child of anything that <divineName> is
currently a child of and let <discorseMarker> have the same children as
<divineName>.  With the necessary accommodations for containing each
other.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Lowery
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:37 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] <discourseMarker>?
> 
> Chris Little wrote:
>  > On Wed, 28 May 2003, Patrick Durusau wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >> Adding the new element, <discourseMarker>.
>  >
>  >
>  > Would anyone mind defining/explaining this to me?   This was
>  > covered during one of the hours I was out of the meeting for class.
>  >
>  >
> "Discourse" is one of those words which can be confusing. Here is the
> dictionary defintion of discourse:
> 
> 1 archaic : the capacity of orderly thought or procedure : RATIONALITY
> 2 verbal interchange of ideas; especially : CONVERSATION
> 3a: formal and orderly and usually extended expression of thought on a
> subject
> b: connected speech or writing
> c: a linguistic unit (as a conversation or a story) larger than a
sentence
> 4 obsolete : social familiarity
> 
>  > From my vague recollection of its description, this seems like a
>  > type of <q>, doesn't it?
> 
> You are thinking of meaning "2"; the sense we are talking about is
> "3c": a marker of some sort of text-unit.
> 
>  > I guess I don't follow what "appliesTo" means either, but assuming
>  > a milestone type of "discourse", couldn't "preceding" & "following"
>  > be subTypes?
> 
> The <discourseMarker> needs to contain the text segment that is the
> marker, hence it cannot be a milestone. The "appliesTo" attribute is
> necessary because we need to know whether the marker *begins* a
> discourse unit or *ends* it.
> 
> That's what makes most intuitive sense to me.
> 
> I'm not sure why Kees was so anxious to have this element now. It
> really is too generic for linguistic analysis...
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Kirk
> --
> Kirk E. Lowery, Ph.D.
> Director, Westminster Hebrew Institute
> Adjunct Professor of Old Testament
> Westminster Theological Seminary, Philadelphia
> 
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