[osis-core] container vs. milestone

[Todd Tillinghast]

Troy,

Good point.  If we were to allow <verse> within <lg> then it should be
at the encoder's discretion to use either milestones (likely for
consistency) OR use a <verse> container.  BUT if we do allow <verse>
within <lg> it should only be allowed to have <l> as a child or be a
milestone.

I believe the following is what Troy is saying should also be at the
encoder's discretion if <verse> were to be a child of <lg>:

<lg>
	<verse osisID="Ps.1.1">
		<l>God blesses those people</l>
		<l>who refuse evil advice</l>
		<l>and won't follow sinners</l>
		<l>or join in sneering at God. </l>
	</verse>
	<verse osisID="Ps.1.2"/>
		<l>Instead, the Law of the <divineName
type="yhwh">LORD</divineName></l>
		<l>makes them happy,</l>
		<l>and they think about it</l>
		<l>day and night.</l>
	</verse>
</lg>


Thoughts?

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Troy A. Griffitts
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:03 PM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: [osis-core] container vs. milestone
> 
> I'm not sure why you're suggesting to use a milestone in you 'more
> accurate' example.  Why not just use the verse container.  It doesn't
> cross anything.
> 
> I'm still a little hazy as to why we would EVER dictate when something
> HAS to be a container and when it HAS to be a milestone.  (also in
> reference to the 2 types of CHAPTER tags we have now).
> 
> My thinking is that the rule that BSP always take precidence when
> something must break, takes care of all the problems.  Let's not
confuse
> the user with more rules.  We're not adding anything and we've already
> said it in more simple terms.
> 
> 	-Troy.
> 
> 
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> > Patrick, Troy, Chris, and Steve,
> >
> > Here is something (that Troy has pointed out in the past) that we
may
> > want to chew on.
> >
> > It would seem appropriate for a <verse> (and a <chapter>) to be
marked
> > outside of the <l> element in many cases, but inside <lg>.  In the
past
> > we have decided against allowing <verse> to be a <lg> because we did
not
> > want to allow <verse> as a container to be a child of <lg>.  Now
that we
> > (according to best practice combined with the fact that almost no
<l>
> > encompasses an entire verse) will be using <verse> as a milestone
> > exclusively within <lg> and <l>, we have to opportunity to allow a
> > milestone only <verse> as a child of <lg>.  The result would be that
in
> > most cases the <l> element itself and not just its contents would be
> > marked as being a part of the verse.  I believe this would be more
> > accurate.
> >
> > REASON TO CONSIDER THIS NOW: We are making a shift from using EITHER
> > <verse> with the splitID OR <milestoneStart>/<milestoneEnd> to using
> > ONLY <verse/> as a milestone in poetry, if we allow a <verse/>
milestone
> > only element in <lg> now at the same time we are already making the
"big
> > change" the result will be that going forward encodings will be
better
> > and will not have to be corrected if it is allowed later.  Also, if
we
> > introduce it later there will already be a number of "weaker"
encodings
> > produced.
> >
> >
> > Ex:
> > CURRENT PLACEMENT OF <verse> MILESTONES.
> > <lg>
> > 	<l><verse osisID="Ps.1.1" sID="Ps.1.1"/>God blesses those
> > people</l>
> > 	<l>who refuse evil advice</l>
> > 	<l>and won't follow sinners</l>
> > 	<l>or join in sneering at God.<verse eID="Ps.1.1"/></l>
> > 	<l><verse osisID="Ps.1.2" sID="Ps.1.2"/>Instead, the Law of the
> > <divineName type="yhwh">LORD</divineName></l>
> > 	<l>makes them happy,</l>
> > 	<l>and they think about it</l>
> > 	<l>day and night.<verse eID="Ps.1.2"/></l>
> > </lg>
> >
> > MORE ACCURATE PLACEMENT OF <verse> MILESTONES.
> > <lg>
> > 	<verse osisID="Ps.1.1" sID="Ps.1.1"/>
> > 	<l>God blesses those people</l>
> > 	<l>who refuse evil advice</l>
> > 	<l>and won't follow sinners</l>
> > 	<l>or join in sneering at God. </l>
> > 	<verse eID="Ps.1.1"/>
> > 	<verse osisID="Ps.1.2" sID="Ps.1.2"/>
> > 	<l>Instead, the Law of the <divineName
> > type="yhwh">LORD</divineName></l>
> > 	<l>makes them happy,</l>
> > 	<l>and they think about it</l>
> > 	<l>day and night.</l>
> > 	<verse eID="Ps.1.2"/>
> > </lg>
> >
> > Note: For this example, I have removed all <lb> and type attributes.
> >
> > Todd
> >
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