[osis-core] Are quotes structure?

Troy A. Griffitts osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:44:03 -0700


I think you guys know too much :)

I don't think the question is whether they are real entities in the 
original.  The problem is this:

We have texts in which authors feel the need to mark up an English 
anomaly called nested quotes.  We need to let them do this if they wish to.

???

But anyway, we don't have a problem with nested quotes.  We can do it 
currently, either with milestones or segmented <q> tags.  I just think 
segmented <q> tags get extremely messy, and would prefer:

<q mStart="uid123" level="1" who="me" />Go into all the world and say, 
<q mStart="uid456" level="2" who="you" />Why don't you look into Jesus<q 
mEnd="uid456" /><q mEnd="uid123" />

But I can't seem to get anyone with the pen to concede. :)

This milestone approach let's me ignore verse boundaries and still gives 
me all the attributes of a real <q> element.

	-Troy.





Patrick Durusau wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> Steven J. DeRose wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> That's a really interesting point.... I'm having a little trouble 
>> getting my head around that, but i think it's because the syntactic 
>> analysis aspect is so ingrained.
> 
> 
> Yes, it puzzled me at first because I tend to think of it as structure 
> but since it is really an addition to the "original" text in order to 
> make a claim via presentation, perhaps not.
> 
>>
>> Would the consequence be that one just doesn't mark the elements 
>> formerly known as nested quotes :) ?
>>
>>    Is there a decent way to parenthesize emoticons?
>>
>> We could certainly still get the quotation marks placed by hand, 
>> though they couldn't be mapped between different national styles (for 
>> example, swapping single and double would only work by chance for 
>> US/UK usage, at least because of interference from apostrophes)....
> 
> 
> Actually could use entities, which would allow remapping for display 
> purposes. Would have to be consistently used.
> 
> Patrick
>