[osis-core] Using Block Quote

Patrick Durusau osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Wed, 08 May 2002 14:30:36 -0400


Todd,

Todd Tillinghast wrote:

>Taking <blockQuote> out of phaseGroup would solve the abuse problem.
>
>I am still not sure how to use <blockQuote> in conjunction with <p> and
><verse>.
>
With <p> a blockQuote would occur just like you see an indented quote in 
prose, which may contain <p> or even lesser blockQuotes.

With verse, I would illustrate with Peter's speech in Acts (2:14-36)

<div type="section">
<title>Peter Addresses the Crowd</title>
<verse id="Acts.2.14a" next="Acts.2.14b">But Peter, standing up with the 
eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, </verse>
<blockQuote>
<verse id="Acts..2.14b" prev="Acts.2.14a">Ye men of Judaea, and all /ye 
/that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my 
words:</verse>
<verse id="Acts.2.15">For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing 
it is /but /the third hour of the day.</verse>
<verse id="Acts.2.16">But this is that which was spoken by the prophet 
Joel;</verse>

Note here that reference cannot contain verse, Hmmm, should it?

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour 
out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall 
prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall 
dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those 
days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth 
beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

****

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath 
made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
</verse>
</blockQuote>
</div>


Patrick



>
>Todd
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
>>core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:44 PM
>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>Subject: Re: [osis-core] Highly Experimental! OSIS_PR_02!
>>
>>Todd,
>>
>>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
>>
>>>Patrick,
>>>
>>>I don't have a solution for this but the following is possible.
>>>
>>>p->verse->blockQuote->p->verse->blockQuote->p->verse...
>>>
>>Good catch!
>>
>>Yes, the problem is that I want p to contain verse but not allow the
>>situation you describe.
>>
>>Thoughts on how much effort we should expend on not allowing bad
>>
>markup?
>
>>I agree that the case Todd has found is pathological but generally not
>>sure we can prevent absurd markup.
>>
>>Possible solution would be to take blockQuote out of phraseGroup and
>>just insert it where needed. It would probably contain verses anyway.
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>>I don't think we want a <p> or a <verse> within a <verse>.
>>>
>>>I also am not sure how the blockQuote is intended to be used with the
>>>current model.  Can you provide an example?  It seems this might
>>>
>cause
>
>>>us trouble with our current no milestone strategy.  (Also <lineGroup>
>>>could be similar trouble.)
>>>
>>>Still trying to digest all of the implications.
>>>
>>>Todd
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: owner-osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:owner-osis-
>>>>core@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 7:30 AM
>>>>To: osis-core; klowery
>>>>Subject: [osis-core] Highly Experimental! OSIS_PR_02!
>>>>
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>Implemented some of the changes I suggested for your review. Note
>>>>
>that
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>have also generated documentation without the annoying diagrams.
>>>>
>>>Useful
>>>
>>>>for HTML context but less so with the Word version. (Down to 30
>>>>
>>>pages!)
>>>
>>>>Chris: have not forgotten about your post! Reply to soon follow!
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Patrick Durusau
>>>>Director of Research and Development
>>>>Society of Biblical Literature
>>>>pdurusau@emory.edu
>>>>
>>--
>>Patrick Durusau
>>Director of Research and Development
>>Society of Biblical Literature
>>pdurusau@emory.edu
>>
>>
>

-- 
Patrick Durusau
Director of Research and Development
Society of Biblical Literature
pdurusau@emory.edu