Hi Martin,<div><br></div><div>What I am looking for in a Bible reader for my Android phone is one with the full power of a desktop Bible reader. I will gladly make suggestions and work with you all you want.</div><div><br>
</div><div>I am looking forward to the next build. :) If I had time I would help to code but that will have to wait for retirement.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy coding and God bless!<br><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Martin Denham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjdenham@gmail.com">mjdenham@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi SonWon,<div><br></div><div>I don't want to frustrate people by putting up a lot of builds which are only half finished so I am not doing very frequent builds. I would like to address many of the issues before making another build available.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am hoping to do another build in a couple of weeks.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your continued input and encouragement everybody. It is much appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div>
<div>Martin</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 July 2010 01:37, SonWon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sonwon.1@gmail.com" target="_blank">sonwon.1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Martin,<div><br></div><div>You wrote, "<span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">I have already switched to using a standard menu on my own local build after playing with Troy's Bishop. I have only just got an Android phone and never pressed the Menu button!!!</span>"</div>
<div><br></div><div>When could I get a copy of this version to test?</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:37 AM, David Forslund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:forslund@mail.com" target="_blank">forslund@mail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Some more observations:<br>
<br>
- It doesn't seem to remember what version or book and chapter were
displayed the last time the program was run. It always seems to start
with BBE at Genesis 1.<br>
<br>
- If I select a book of the Bible but cancel the selection by hitting
the back arrow instead of selecting a chapter, it goes ahead to that
book instead of going back to the book selection.<br>
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I know this is a work in progress, so I'm not complaining, just
observing in case you weren't aware.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Dave <br><div>
On 7/5/2010 1:38 PM, Martin Denham wrote:
</div><div><div></div><div><blockquote type="cite">Thanks SonWon, That is useful input and thanks for
encouragement.
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<div>1. I used Pocket e-sword for years and tabs for bible/commentary
etc is the approach Pocket e-sword used but it uses a whole row and I
found I normally just used 2 tabs (bible & commentary) so I was
planning to initially have a bible/commentary button on the main menu
bar (as you suggest at the end of point 1).</div>
<div>2. I have already switched to using a standard menu on my own
local build after playing with Troy's Bishop. I have only just got an
Android phone and never pressed the Menu button!!!</div>
<div>3. I am not sure how to best fit book/chapter nav on one screen.
I initially tried and failed to copy Pocket e-sword's nav, but list
items are so big on the Android I have thought of putting the books
into a grid, but then that still leaves up to 150 chapters. All ideas
appreciated. I am currently thinking of 2 tabs - tab 1 containing a
grid of books and tab 2 a list of chapters. Alternatively I could have
3 tabs Document/BibleBook/BibleChapter. That would also remove the
Document button from the menu.</div>
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</div>
<div>Did you realise you can drop other books from the CrossWire site
into the appropriate place under the jsword dir on the sdcard and after
restarting AndBible you can view them.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I need to select verses to enable display of the correct
commentary verse associated with the currently viewed bible passage and
I was considering auto verse calculation based on the current distance
scrolled down the ScrollView - that is something I can play around with.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Last weekend I managed to increase speed considerably by
bypassing some slow DOM creation code - now I just need to work around
a couple of bugs but most docs/chapters display fine.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am hoping my youngest daughter will create a splash screen for
the app to distract users from the slowish start up time. Also new
name "and-the-word" instead of "AndBible". What do you think? It
obviously comes from John chapter 1. I thought AndBible was a bit
obvious.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Best Regards</div>
<div>Martin</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 5 July 2010 19:13, SonWon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sonwon.1@gmail.com" target="_blank">sonwon.1@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Got
it, when I unzipped SdcardBibles it placed the jsword in a SdcardBibles
folder. I moved jsword to root of the sdcard and all is well.
<div><br>
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<div>Thank you very much. This is a very good start!</div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My first suggestion is to place tabs across the bottom to
easily switch between text, like Bible, commentary, dictionary, and
etc.. Maybe this could be done with the menu button?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Second suggestion, move the navigation buttons into a
menu assessable from the menu button. This will free up space for the
text.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Third suggestion, make the navigation to a new book, chapter,
and verse a table that fits all on one screen so the user doesn't have
to scroll. I have a lot more suggestions to make about this area.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks again!
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Martin
Denham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjdenham@gmail.com" target="_blank">mjdenham@gmail.com</a>></span>
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Hi SonWon,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry you had problems. Error handling in the app needs to
be greatly improved on. Did you unzip SdcardBibles.zip to your
mobile's sd card and have you now got a directory named jsword in the
root of your sdcard?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To uninstall the application you can go to
Settings/Applications/Manage applications/Bible/Uninstall.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kind regards</div>
<div>Martin
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 5 July 2010 14:27, SonWon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sonwon.1@gmail.com" target="_blank">sonwon.1@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Hi
Martin,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bad news, I am unable to run the application. I get a
forced closed error? I am using Android version 2.1-update1 on a
Sprint EVO.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if there is anything I can do to help solve
this problem.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, how do I uninstall the application?</div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Caleb
Maclennan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:caleb@alerque.com" target="_blank">caleb@alerque.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">2010/7/2
Martin Denham <<a href="mailto:mjdenham@gmail.com" target="_blank">mjdenham@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div>> I have built a working prototype of a bible for
Android mobile phones. The<br>
> prototype uses a slightly modified JSword back-end. You can
download the<br>
> prototype from <a href="http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list</a>.<br>
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</div>
Martin,<br>
<br>
Excellent work, this looks great for a prototype! Keep it up.<br>
<br>
I will be following progress closely and perhaps participating at some
point.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Caleb<br>
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