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    If you check your code into the Google code repository, those of us
    with development environments could monitor what you are doing and
    provide suggestions before you do another full build.&nbsp; Of course,
    you may not want to deal with all the "noise" that it would
    generate.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks for your efforts,<br>
    <br>
    Dave<br>
    On 7/7/2010 1:20 AM, Martin Denham wrote:
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      cite="mid:AANLkTik2FyspY5l_jO6TanqZqNMs6eNXLtENcy2c7YTJ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Hi SonWon,
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      <div>I don't want to frustrate people by putting up a lot of
        builds which are only half finished so I am not doing very
        frequent builds. &nbsp;I would like to address many of the issues
        before making another build available.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I am hoping to do another build in a couple of weeks.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks for your continued input and encouragement everybody.
        &nbsp;It is much appreciated.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Best regards</div>
      <div>Martin</div>
      <div><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 July 2010 01:37, SonWon <span
            dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:sonwon.1@gmail.com">sonwon.1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            Martin,
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            <div>You wrote, "<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;
                font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">I have
                already switched to using a standard menu on my own
                local build after playing with Troy's Bishop. &nbsp;I have
                only just got an Android phone and never pressed the
                Menu button!!!</span>"</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>When could I get a copy of this version to test?</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div><br>
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                <div>
                  <div class="h5">On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:37 AM, David
                    Forslund <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:forslund@mail.com" target="_blank">forslund@mail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        Some more observations:<br>
                        <br>
                        - It doesn't seem to remember what version or
                        book and chapter were
                        displayed the last time the program was run.&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        It always seems to start
                        with BBE at Genesis 1.<br>
                        <br>
                        - If I select a book of the Bible but cancel the
                        selection by hitting
                        the back arrow instead of selecting a chapter,
                        it goes ahead to that
                        book instead of going back to the book
                        selection.<br>
                        <br>
                        I know this is a work in progress, so I'm not
                        complaining, just
                        observing in case you weren't aware.<br>
                        <br>
                        Thanks,<br>
                        <br>
                        Dave <br>
                        <div>
                          On 7/5/2010 1:38 PM, Martin Denham wrote:
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                          <div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">Thanks SonWon, &nbsp;That
                              is useful input and thanks for
                              encouragement.
                              <div><br>
                                <div>1. I used Pocket e-sword for years
                                  and tabs for bible/commentary
                                  etc is the approach Pocket e-sword
                                  used but it uses a whole row and I
                                  found I normally just used 2 tabs
                                  (bible &amp; commentary) so I was
                                  planning to initially have a
                                  bible/commentary button on the main
                                  menu
                                  bar (as you suggest at the end of
                                  point 1).</div>
                                <div>2. I have already switched to using
                                  a standard menu on my own
                                  local build after playing with Troy's
                                  Bishop. &nbsp;I have only just got an
                                  Android phone and never pressed the
                                  Menu button!!!</div>
                                <div>3. I am not sure how to best fit
                                  book/chapter nav on one screen.
                                  &nbsp;I initially tried and failed to copy
                                  Pocket e-sword's nav, but list
                                  items are so big on the Android &nbsp;I
                                  have thought of putting the books
                                  into a grid, but then that still
                                  leaves up to 150 chapters. &nbsp;All ideas
                                  appreciated. &nbsp;I am currently thinking
                                  of 2 tabs - tab 1 containing a
                                  grid of books and tab 2 a list of
                                  chapters. &nbsp;Alternatively I could have
                                  3 tabs
                                  Document/BibleBook/BibleChapter. &nbsp;That
                                  would also remove the
                                  Document button from the menu.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Did you realise you can drop other
                                  books from the CrossWire site
                                  into the appropriate place under the
                                  jsword dir on the sdcard and after
                                  restarting AndBible you can view them.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I need to select verses to enable
                                  display of the correct
                                  commentary verse associated with the
                                  currently viewed bible passage and
                                  I was considering auto verse
                                  calculation based on the current
                                  distance
                                  scrolled down the ScrollView - that is
                                  something I can play around with.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Last weekend I managed to increase
                                  speed considerably by
                                  bypassing some slow DOM creation code
                                  - now I just need to work around
                                  a couple of bugs but most
                                  docs/chapters display fine.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I am hoping my youngest daughter
                                  will create a splash screen for
                                  the app to distract users from the
                                  slowish start up time. &nbsp;Also new
                                  &nbsp;name "and-the-word" instead of
                                  "AndBible". &nbsp;What do you think? &nbsp;It
                                  obviously comes from John chapter 1.
                                  &nbsp;I thought AndBible was a bit
                                  obvious.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Best Regards</div>
                                <div>Martin</div>
                                <div><br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 5 July
                                    2010 19:13, SonWon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:sonwon.1@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">sonwon.1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      style="border-left: 1px solid
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                                      0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Got
it,
                                      when I unzipped SdcardBibles it
                                      placed the jsword in a
                                      SdcardBibles
                                      folder. &nbsp;I moved jsword to root of
                                      the sdcard and all is well.
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Thank you very much. &nbsp;This is
                                        a very good start!</div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>My first suggestion is to
                                          place tabs across the bottom
                                          to
                                          easily switch between text,
                                          like Bible,&nbsp;commentary,
                                          dictionary, and
                                          etc.. &nbsp;Maybe this could be
                                          done with the menu button?</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Second suggestion, move the
                                          navigation buttons into a
                                          menu&nbsp;assessable&nbsp;from the menu
                                          button. &nbsp;This will free up
                                          space for the
                                          text.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Third suggestion, make
                                          the&nbsp;navigation&nbsp;to a new book,
                                          chapter,
                                          and verse a table that fits
                                          all on one screen so the user
                                          doesn't have
                                          to scroll. &nbsp;I have a lot more
                                          suggestions to make about this
                                          area.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Thanks again!
                                          <div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:42
                                                PM, Martin
                                                Denham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mjdenham@gmail.com" target="_blank">mjdenham@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                  Hi SonWon,
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Sorry you had
                                                    problems. &nbsp;Error
                                                    handling in the app
                                                    needs to
                                                    be greatly improved
                                                    on. &nbsp;Did you unzip
                                                    SdcardBibles.zip to
                                                    your
                                                    mobile's sd card and
                                                    have you now got a
                                                    directory named
                                                    jsword in the
                                                    root of your sdcard?</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>To uninstall the
                                                    application you can
                                                    go to
                                                    Settings/Applications/Manage
applications/Bible/Uninstall.</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Kind regards</div>
                                                  <div>Martin
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          5 July 2010
                                                          14:27, SonWon
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sonwon.1@gmail.com" target="_blank">sonwon.1@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          padding-left:
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                                                          Martin,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Bad news,
                                                          I am unable to
                                                          run the
                                                          application.
                                                          &nbsp;I get a
                                                          forced closed
                                                          error? &nbsp;I am
                                                          using Android
                                                          version
                                                          2.1-update1 on
                                                          a
                                                          Sprint EVO.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Let me
                                                          know if there
                                                          is anything I
                                                          can do to help
                                                          solve
                                                          this problem.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Also, how
                                                          do I uninstall
                                                          the
                                                          application?</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Fri, Jul 2,
                                                          2010 at 12:11
                                                          PM, Caleb
                                                          Maclennan <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:caleb@alerque.com" target="_blank">caleb@alerque.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          Martin Denham
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mjdenham@gmail.com" target="_blank">mjdenham@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
                                                          <div>&gt; I
                                                          have built a
                                                          working
                                                          prototype of a
                                                          bible for
                                                          Android mobile
                                                          phones. &nbsp;The<br>
                                                          &gt; prototype
                                                          uses a
                                                          slightly
                                                          modified
                                                          JSword
                                                          back-end. &nbsp;You
                                                          can
                                                          download the<br>
                                                          &gt; prototype
                                                          from&nbsp;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list</a>.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Martin,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Excellent
                                                          work, this
                                                          looks great
                                                          for a
                                                          prototype!
                                                          Keep it up.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I will be
                                                          following
                                                          progress
                                                          closely and
                                                          perhaps
                                                          participating
                                                          at some
                                                          point.<br>
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