[mobile-devel] Android bible
SonWon
sonwon.1 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 5 17:40:13 MST 2010
Hi Martin,
I hope I can continue to help by making suggestions. The design thought I
have is the less taps or actions on the screen to make it work is better and
quicker.
1) & 2) Here are the windows I would like to flip between on screen Bible,
Commentary, Dictionary, Cross Reference, search list (would be nice to be
able to select these with minimal taps). And the features / menu picks I
would like in a Bible reader, Navigation, history forward and backward,
search. I know I am not thinking of them all.
3) More on the table navigation screen. I have given this much thought, not
sure if it makes sense yet so I toss it out to see what others think.
- First I have to describe how the keyboard input works. Finger down on
a button and a little bubble pops up confirming the choice. I would like to
finger down on the navigation window and a bubble would pop up showing me
what I selected. For example if I finger down on 'Mat' then a bubble could
pop up with 'Mat' or 'Mathew' in it. If I actually wanted 'Mar' then I
could slide my finger to 'Mar' and the bubble would change to 'Mark'. The
Bible book selection would not register until I lifted my finger.
- Once I select the book there should be a button on the screen to move
backward in case I selected the wrong choice.
- You are right the table size can be to big for the tiny screens. So
could we draw a table larger than the screen and as you move your finger
around the table could scroll under the finger. The screen would only show
you a portion of the table depending where you slide your finger to. I
would avoid tabs, once you select a book just jump to the chapter selection
table and the same to move to the verse. There should also be buttons to
skip forward to chapter or verse selection and back to book or chapter in
the table or on the screen somewhere. Drilling to a verse is useful for
sermons. So I think verse selection should be included.
I plan to drop more Bibles and books in the folder soon. Another problem I
noticed is when I goto ESV I get square boxes, I think it was ESV. Any idea
what is causing that, I suspect a font maybe.
And-the-Word sounds okay. If I think of something different I'll bounce it
off you. A splash screen would be great, I wonder what she comes up with?
God bless,
~SonWon (John)
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks SonWon, That is useful input and thanks for encouragement.
>
> 1. I used Pocket e-sword for years and tabs for bible/commentary etc is the
> approach Pocket e-sword used but it uses a whole row and I found I normally
> just used 2 tabs (bible & commentary) so I was planning to initially have a
> bible/commentary button on the main menu bar (as you suggest at the end of
> point 1).
> 2. I have already switched to using a standard menu on my own local build
> after playing with Troy's Bishop. I have only just got an Android phone and
> never pressed the Menu button!!!
> 3. I am not sure how to best fit book/chapter nav on one screen. I
> initially tried and failed to copy Pocket e-sword's nav, but list items are
> so big on the Android I have thought of putting the books into a grid, but
> then that still leaves up to 150 chapters. All ideas appreciated. I am
> currently thinking of 2 tabs - tab 1 containing a grid of books and tab 2 a
> list of chapters. Alternatively I could have 3 tabs
> Document/BibleBook/BibleChapter. That would also remove the Document button
> from the menu.
>
> Did you realise you can drop other books from the CrossWire site into the
> appropriate place under the jsword dir on the sdcard and after restarting
> AndBible you can view them.
>
> I need to select verses to enable display of the correct commentary verse
> associated with the currently viewed bible passage and I was considering
> auto verse calculation based on the current distance scrolled down the
> ScrollView - that is something I can play around with.
>
> Last weekend I managed to increase speed considerably by bypassing some
> slow DOM creation code - now I just need to work around a couple of bugs but
> most docs/chapters display fine.
>
> I am hoping my youngest daughter will create a splash screen for the app to
> distract users from the slowish start up time. Also new name
> "and-the-word" instead of "AndBible". What do you think? It obviously
> comes from John chapter 1. I thought AndBible was a bit obvious.
>
> Best Regards
> Martin
>
> On 5 July 2010 19:13, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Got it, when I unzipped SdcardBibles it placed the jsword in a
>> SdcardBibles folder. I moved jsword to root of the sdcard and all is well.
>>
>> Thank you very much. This is a very good start!
>>
>> My first suggestion is to place tabs across the bottom to easily switch
>> between text, like Bible, commentary, dictionary, and etc.. Maybe this
>> could be done with the menu button?
>>
>> Second suggestion, move the navigation buttons into a menu assessable from
>> the menu button. This will free up space for the text.
>>
>> Third suggestion, make the navigation to a new book, chapter, and verse a
>> table that fits all on one screen so the user doesn't have to scroll. I
>> have a lot more suggestions to make about this area.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi SonWon,
>>>
>>> Sorry you had problems. Error handling in the app needs to be greatly
>>> improved on. Did you unzip SdcardBibles.zip to your mobile's sd card and
>>> have you now got a directory named jsword in the root of your sdcard?
>>>
>>> To uninstall the application you can go to Settings/Applications/Manage
>>> applications/Bible/Uninstall.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 July 2010 14:27, SonWon <sonwon.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> Bad news, I am unable to run the application. I get a forced closed
>>>> error? I am using Android version 2.1-update1 on a Sprint EVO.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if there is anything I can do to help solve this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Also, how do I uninstall the application?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Caleb Maclennan <caleb at alerque.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2010/7/2 Martin Denham <mjdenham at gmail.com>:
>>>>> > I have built a working prototype of a bible for Android mobile
>>>>> phones. The
>>>>> > prototype uses a slightly modified JSword back-end. You can download
>>>>> the
>>>>> > prototype from http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/downloads/list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent work, this looks great for a prototype! Keep it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be following progress closely and perhaps participating at some
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caleb
>>>>>
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