<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Tonny Kohar wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br><br>Thanks for the feedback, it is very appreciated. And I am glad it is<br>works in your Mac OSX environment although with some quirks that need<br>to be sorted out.<br><br>I will go back to coding and fix those annoying quirks. And related to<br>the font size, on the next release I am planning to add user<br>preferences so user could place their own font style/attribute/size.<br>Do you have any idea what kind of font style/size which is suitable<br>for reading in Mac OSX eg: sanserif 12 or sanserif 14<br>(bold/italic,normal) for the default (of course the user will be able<br>to change it in the preferences dialog), I am looking for the defaulf<br>font/style/size that looking good on Mac OSX</blockquote><div><br></div>In BibleDesktop, we use: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(42, 0, 255); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 11px; ">"Serif-PLAIN-14" for all platforms.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span></span></div><div>The other mechanism I've used in the past is to pick a widget with a font and size I like and use that with something like:</div><div>Font defaultFont = new Dialog().getFont();</div><div><br></div><div>Either mechanism is fine, but the key is to either use a symbolic font name that Java defines or to ask the UI manager directly or indirectly for a font. That way you avoid defaulting to a font that is not present on a platform.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>Cheers<br>Tonny Kohar<br>-- <br>Alkitab Bible Study<br>imagine, design, create ...<br><a href="http://www.kiyut.com">http://www.kiyut.com</a><br><br>On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith555@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Tonny Kohar wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Just released Alkitab 0.6 which following enhancements:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- Added Search Panel (Advanced)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- Added some icon<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- Various UI Improvement<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- Fix Java 1.5 compatibility problem<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It is available at http://www.kiyut.com/products/alkitab/ and the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">source code is available at the usual location (under Developer<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Section)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Note: Mac OSX build is available as well. If anyone have tried the Mac<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">OSX build, it will be very appreciated if could you give us feedback<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">regarding the Mac OSX build especially<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- installation (is it easy/user friendly enough ?)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- program running (does it look native mac osx enough ?)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Any feedback is very appreciated<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Tonny,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> This works well on my Mac. But it is not quite "Mac" like.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Installation:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> The installer is just a zip and without a Mac you won't be able to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> create a *.dmg ("disk image") instead. But Mac users expect a *.dmg and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> not a *.zip.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> On Leopard, the latest version of the OS, the zip is downloaded into the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> "Downloads" folder and the user has to dig for it.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> On Tiger, and earlier versions of OSX, the zip is downloaded to the Desktop.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Unless the user has changed default settings, the zip is automatically<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> unzipped.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> The "app" that you built probably should begin with a capital "A".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> FYI, the experience a user gets for a *.dmg is that it is automatically<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> mounted and shown in it's own Finder view. The view typically has the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> application and frequently a shortcut to the Applications folder. The<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> background image typically includes a banner or splash for the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> application and some kind of indication that the user should drag the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> application to the Applications folder. This indicator may be text or if<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> there is a shortcut to the folder present a visual representation of the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> drag.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Application:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> The About and Preferences are in the expected location.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> On Leopard, a Help menu is automatically provided and it contains a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> "Spotlight" for the app's menu. (This is not present on earlier OSX).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> This makes the absence of any kind of application help stand out.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> The menu's the adhere to the Mac UI guidelines (i.e. no underlined<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> mnemonics), but the Preferences -> Advanced have mnemonics indicated<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> with an &.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Probably because the application is in an early state of development,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> there is too much NetBeans showing through as menu items.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> The big problem I have is that the font being used is way too small for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> me to comfortably read Bible text. This should be a simple CSS change or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> you need to let the user establish their preferred font and size.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Other than that I like what I see!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Congrats.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> In Him,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> DM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> jsword-devel mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> jsword-devel@crosswire.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/jsword-devel<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>jsword-devel mailing list<br>jsword-devel@crosswire.org<br>http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/jsword-devel<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>