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smile Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

Hi

Thank you for all explanations!

I process the new bible file after some small corrections (collapses verses number).

Here is the error log

http://cjoint.com/?3EqvVF1lAkO

I think the only errors is now due to differences between synodal and english version.

I post the IMP file use to generate the bible

http://cjoint.com/?3EqvWDAA9Wl

You want me to generate and english compatible version, you can correct the IMP file (more easy to correct) and send me new file to generate new bible with.

Here is the new bible module without error (within the meaning of synodal version)

http://cjoint.com/?3EqvZs4jb8c

I wil send you by mail my personnal ftp site to download this module with your iphone without using bonjour. I will explain to you how to add ftp source in pocketsword to directly download this module in your iphone.
So you will be able to test it before i post it to sword team.

Thanks and regards.

PS: just updated files.
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Hi,

I juste create another module with psalms in english format.

So the new error log file is this (without psalms errors)

http://cjoint.com/?3EqxIkYFa3g

New IMP file for remaining corrections is this (unzip and do the corrections in this file and send it back to me in another zip file to avoid browser character encoding)

http://cjoint.com/?3EqxNer8M1K

and new module is this.

http://cjoint.com/?3Eqx3vsYMgf

We are very close to have a module without error.

Could you or someone else reading this post can help doing remaining corrections for this module to match english bible totally?

Or do you prefer synodal verse references?

Let me known.

Thanks and regards.
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Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

Hi guys,

sounds like you're having great success with this! Did you know that you can use an alternative versification to create your module? You don't need to stick to the KJV versification, but instead there are Synodal versifications that PocketSword supports that may better suite your Bible?

Also, when you are using additional sources for the module, make sure that those sources are also under the Public Domain (or another appropriate freely distributable licence). We would love to be able to use the module so that everyone can access and benefit from it! :) I've been keeping an excited eye on this thread and can't wait to see the results -- sorry I've been so busy, otherwise I would have replied earlier and would be offering to help test it, but I don't have time right now, sorry!

Thanks, ybic
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Hi,

Thank you so much Nic for your precious indications.

I found that indeed sword is able to deal with differents versification!

Located here: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Alternate_Versification

and : http://www.crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trun...asicv11ns/canon_synodal.h

So no more need to convert this module to english versification or add another source than original public domain one.

I compil the module with the synodal versification.

David,
The only remaining errors (instead of missing Apocrypha's books,chapters or verses) is :

Psalms 101:28 (missing verse number)
Psalms 114:9 (missing verse number)
Proverbs 18:25 (missing verse number)

So, only 3 verses number is needed to have or module rigth.

Here is error log file http://cjoint.com/?3Ero6b3aVkz

Here is new module for test http://cjoint.com/?3Ero7VHt2xH

Find it also in my personnal ftp server.

Could you tell me where to add missing verse number? No need to post all document for that. After that, the module will be ready to be submit to Sword.

Thanks and Regards.
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Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

Hi,

I did the correction with regard to this site

http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=13

Added missing verse number Psalms 114:9 and Psalms 101:28, but i found that Proverbs 18:25 do not exist in synodal version of russian bible.

I will built the new module without error and send it to sword.

Regard.
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Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

Ahh, one quick other comment is that there is both a Synodal v11n and a Protestant version of the Synodal v11n which won't expect the Apocrypha... :) You can pick and choose which to use based on the available text you are using :)


Thanks, ybic
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Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

I apologize that it took me a while to respond to your messages... I have summer classes and at times, I have little time.

I followed your instructions for "FTP" and I was successfully able to download the Russian Bible. Thank you for keeping your computer on, so that I could download the file.

It makes no difference for me whether the numbering is in English format or in Russian format. However, most Russian speaking people would prefer the Russian format, since it exactly matches the Russian Bibles. Many people are not aware that the numbering is slight different between the English Bible and the Russian Bible. To these people, it would be slightly confusing if they open Psalm 100 and it shows Psalm 101.

Yes, Psalms 114:9 and Psalms 101:28 have the actual verse, but had a missing verse number. Just in case, here is the corrected file:

https://sites.google.com/site/wwjdru/Bible.doc?attredirects=0&d=1

In Russian language, there are two Bibles. The two Bibles have identical texts, but have different amount of books. The first Bible is the "Canon Bible" and it has 66 books like the English Bible. The second Bible is the "Full Bible" and it has additional books like "Wisdom of Solomon" and "Maccabees". In the Slavic culture, the Protestant denominations accept and read the "Full Bible". In America, the only the Catholics use the "Full Bible" and Catholics call it "Catholic Bible" or "Apocrypha books". In Slavic culture, the "Full Bible" is not recommended for new believers because of its content. For example, in Maccabees, Jews are fried on pans because they refuse to eat pork. As the result, many churches prefer the "Canon Bible", while at times do actually use the "Full Bible".

As for Proverbs 18:25... It falls into the "Full Bible" category. If you open a "Canon Bible", then you will not find Proverbs 18:25.

Also, if you open a Canon Bible, then you will not find these verses: Manasses, I Esdras, II Esdras, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, Epistle of Jeremiah, Baruch, I Maccabees, II Maccabees, III Maccabees, Daniel 3:34-100, Daniel 13, Daniel 14, Psalms 151, Proverbs 18:25

Please remove these from your list and compile/create the "Canon Bible". Once it is compiled, notify me and I will download it from your IP address. I will once again go through the verification process.

After we are fully finished with the "Canon Bible"... If you would like, I can help you create a "Full RSV Bible". However, we would need to obtain "special approval" from the "official servers". The reason that I say this, is that they might refuse to host "Full RSV Bible", because it contains "apocrypha books". By the way, the RSV Full Bible does not have "Manasses", while it does have "III Maccabees". ("III Maccabees" is not on your error list). Also canon "Ezra" is the exact same book as full Bible "1 Esdras".
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Hi,

Thank you Nic. One more time, your intervention take me out of a deadlock. Actually, it was necessary to built the module with SynodalP option instead of Synodal.

I have no error now even for Proverbs 18:25.

Only errors in source text file could remain now.

Thank You Nic and David for your precious help.

Here is the final module and IMP file i will submit to sword.

Module : http://cjoint.com/?3EspUxBfl2Z

IMP file : http://cjoint.com/?3EspVDCM97S

David, i will put it on my ftp server very soon.

Regards.
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Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

Peace be unto you, Cyrille!

I just want to add that there is some kind of work around Russian infrastructure for Sword environment. There is full Synodal Bible with apocrypha in Crosswire Experimental repository and another repository with Russian content, take a look for it on Google if you are interested.

Please feel free to ask me about any related question here or via email.

P.S. I see you have much energy and we have started some work on Russian modules, for example Lopukhin Explanatory Bible. So I will be glad, if we unite our efforts.
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Re: Russian Language Bible (specifically Old Testament)

Hi Kalemas,

Welcome to you. I think many people will be interrested on having the list of those experimentals repositories and bring their help.

For me, i am not russian, and I do not even speak Russian. I just wanted to help David getting this module, because i was myself very happy to discover this fantastic app (pocketsword) and the modules that interest me.

I remains your to provide any assistance within the limits of my knowledge because i just discovered crosswire environement.

Thanks and Regards.
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