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Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 4, 2009 4:59:10 AM
MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi there.

We're happy to announce the first available beta release of MacSword 2
(version 1.8.11).
From the available features and stability we've decided to open it to
a wider public.
Requirements are Mac OSX Leopard.

We're are not yet as feature rich as MacSword 1 is but that will come.
For the next release (1.9.0) personal commentary editing is planed,
this is not yet included here.
The module installer should be familiar since it is the same except
some minor enhancements and fixes.

You can now choose between using multi window approach or a workspace
window with tabs.

For some screenshots (of a now somewhat older version) look here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/

If interested, download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.8.11.app.zip

!!! Although MacSword2 can co-exist with MacSword1 we suggest you make
a backup of you MacSword folder:
/Users/<yourlogin>/Library/Application Support/MacSword


Any feedback is highly appreciated.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by Simon at Mar 4, 2009 1:23:46 PM
Hurrah! nt
Hurrah!
Downloading it as I write. Feedback will come.
Simon

Posted by Dale at Mar 9, 2009 4:53:21 AM
Re: Hurrah! nt
Thanks for the update: however I'm getting a blue *_x instead of a a cross-reference verse, any ideas as to the issue?


Dale
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“The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest." Luke 10:2

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 9, 2009 7:01:30 AM
Re: Hurrah! nt
Thanks for the update: however I'm getting a blue *_x instead of a a cross-reference verse, any ideas as to the issue?


Well, that's not a bug. :)
We're using the default HTML filter like BibleCS does and many other programs.
However if you klick on the *_x or hold the mouse a little longer then the cross-reference is shown in the HUD preview window.


Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 9, 2009 7:12:18 AM
Re: Hurrah! nt
However if you klick on the *_x or hold the mouse a little longer then the cross-reference is shown in the HUD preview window.

The same way it works for Strong's, Morph's and footnotes.


Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 9, 2009 7:45:26 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Yet another beta version update has been released (version 1.9.0 build 162).
It brings the following new features:

• added personal commentary editing
• added commentary module creation
• added full screen mode for single and workspace windows
• added module unlocking via user interface
• module installer shows locked modules
• module installer now accepts multi selection
• HUD preview window now remembers if enabled/disabled
• many more fixes

Please use the application updater to download.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by Dale at Mar 9, 2009 5:51:10 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Well, So far I like the upgrade but still getting the blue *_x, even if I hold the cursor over or click, which by the way turns to the typing cursor, I still can not get the cross reference. I'm new to Mac, so is there a setting I need to adjust?

Dale
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“The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest." Luke 10:2

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 10, 2009 1:04:39 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Well, So far I like the upgrade but still getting the blue *_x, even if I hold the cursor over or click, which by the way turns to the typing cursor, I still can not get the cross reference. I'm new to Mac, so is there a setting I need to adjust?

Dale, the blue *_x is a link, like in a browser. You could say it is a bug that the cursor stays a typing cursor even though it should get a finger.
If you click on that link, the cross-reference is shown in the preview window.
I'm not sure right now if the pewview window is shown by default.
If not, look into main the main menu->Windows and enable: "Show/Hide Preview panel".
This should display a black, half transparent small window which shows the cross-refs.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 10, 2009 1:06:31 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

If you click on that link, the cross-reference is shown in the preview window.

Btw: these types of windows are available since Mac OSX Leopard and are called HUD (Head Up Display).

Manfred

Posted by Dale at Mar 10, 2009 6:03:38 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Ok, I see the HUD and can get there with the shortcut keys stokes, is there any way to get the link to display the verse/cross-ref as in the previous version?

Dale

P.S. Thanks for your patience.

http://missionfieldimages.com/main.php
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“The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest." Luke 10:2

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 10, 2009 8:35:42 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Ok, I see the HUD and can get there with the shortcut keys stokes, is there any way to get the link to display the verse/cross-ref as in the previous version?

You mean instead of the *_x the list of x-refs?
Yes, we can do that, I don't like the *_x very much either. But they would still be displayed in the HUD instead of the tooltop.

Btw: you have a very good web page.
God bless your efforts.


Manfred

Posted by Dale at Mar 10, 2009 9:58:25 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I don't mind using the HUD shortcuts, it's just a matter of getting use too, however I do like all the new features. I appreciate all your efforts as well, this is going to be a great help in the field.

Thanks for the complement on the website, God is Good.

Dale
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“The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest." Luke 10:2

Posted by Simon at Mar 14, 2009 6:37:05 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hello again!
Thankyou for providing the new version of MacSword. I have tried it for a few days now, and these are some thoughts about it:

About the module manager: When I'm looking for new modules, what I primarily want to know is what language the module is in. It's short name or it's version is less important. If I'm looking for greek modules with the current Module manager, I need to know the shortcut for a greek module. I would like the module manager to sort the modules by language.

When a verse number in a hebrew text appears att the end of a line, it appears at the wrong end of the line (to the left, when it should be to the right). When the verse number is somewhere in a line, it appears where it should be.

I miss some features from version 1.4.3, for example the headings, the italics, the small verse numbers and to be able to change the text size and font. But you said that more features were to be added in the future. Perhaps we will not have to live without those for long.

I like the sidebars with modules and bookmarks on one side and Bible books and chapters on the other. However, I think MacSword should also have the arrow buttons in the toolbar and the shortcuts to jump to next or previous chapter.

I also like the preview window.

That was my feedback for now. Hope it helps.
God bless you and your work.
And again: thank you!

Simon

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 14, 2009 4:52:36 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Thanks for your feedback, Simon.

About the module manager: When I'm looking for new modules, what I primarily want to know is what language the module is in. It's short name or it's version is less important. If I'm looking for greek modules with the current Module manager, I need to know the shortcut for a greek module. I would like the module manager to sort the modules by language.

Yeah. Indeed, this is missing.
I wasn't sure if this is really needed but I understand a need for this.


When a verse number in a hebrew text appears att the end of a line, it appears at the wrong end of the line (to the left, when it should be to the right). When the verse number is somewhere in a line, it appears where it should be.

On which module did you try this?


I miss some features from version 1.4.3, for example the headings, the italics, the small verse numbers and to be able to change the text size and font. But you said that more features were to be added in the future. Perhaps we will not have to live without those for long.

Yes, this all will come sooner or later.


I like the sidebars with modules and bookmarks on one side and Bible books and chapters on the other. However, I think MacSword should also have the arrow buttons in the toolbar and the shortcuts to jump to next or previous chapter.

Once you clicked on the right side bar, you can navigate through the chapters with the cursor keys but up/down buttons will come.


Manfred

Posted by Simon at Mar 16, 2009 1:53:12 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

When a verse number in a hebrew text appears att the end of a line, it appears at the wrong end of the line (to the left, when it should be to the right). When the verse number is somewhere in a line, it appears where it should be.

On which module did you try this?


I have tried it on the WLC and the Aleppo codex, both provided by the SWORD homepage.
The verse numbers on the wrong side of the text appears when the verse is the first of a part of the text (for exampel verses 1, 6, 9 and 14 of the first chapter of Genesis). Other than that, the verse numbers appear with the beginning of the verse in the text.
The hebrew verse numbers in the Aleppo are always shown in the proper place, but personally I prefer the arabic numbers.

I have also found that I miss to be able to print the text, but perhaps that also is coming with further versions.

On the other hand, I can hardly think of an easier way to read parallell Bible versions. Great job with that!

God's peace!
Simon

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 16, 2009 2:52:15 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

When a verse number in a hebrew text appears att the end of a line, it appears at the wrong end of the line (to the left, when it should be to the right). When the verse number is somewhere in a line, it appears where it should be.

On which module did you try this?


I have tried it on the WLC and the Aleppo codex, both provided by the SWORD homepage.
The verse numbers on the wrong side of the text appears when the verse is the first of a part of the text (for exampel verses 1, 6, 9 and 14 of the first chapter of Genesis). Other than that, the verse numbers appear with the beginning of the verse in the text.
The hebrew verse numbers in the Aleppo are always shown in the proper place, but personally I prefer the arabic numbers.

I will try that.


I have also found that I miss to be able to print the text, but perhaps that also is coming with further versions.

Yes, definitely.
For now you need to vopy the text into TextEdit or such.


God bless,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 16, 2009 2:55:22 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Another new beta update (1.9.1 build 169):

The following things are fixed/changed:

- added intermediate progress indicator overlay view for when pulling out text takes longer
- some fixes to indexed search for GenBooks
- some speed improvements to the ObjC Sword wrapper
- fixed a problem when a GenBook is the active tab and a new tab is created that is a different type
- added possibility to add comments for a bookmark
- fixed a problem in the bookmark edit/new dialog when values were not taken
- added confirmation and information sheet before entering full screen mode
- some changes to context menu text, links and images have different context menus. Links (Strong's, X-Refs, ...) can now be opened via context menu.
- added default Font setting in preferences
- added font size setting per view
- added a thick divider in the Bible/Commentary split view


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 16, 2009 3:09:37 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

- added default Font setting in preferences
- added font size setting per view


I would further suggest you choose either "Helvetica" or "New Times Roman" as font since the previous default font "Lugica Grande" doesn't provide an italics style and thus some texts didn't look like they should.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by Dale at Mar 17, 2009 5:29:23 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Do you have a link to the update?

DUH!! I found it, thanks for the info

Dale
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“The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest." Luke 10:2

Posted by Simon at Mar 17, 2009 12:56:59 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Manfred, you're the best!

Posted by Simon at Mar 17, 2009 1:51:03 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
For now you need to vopy the text into TextEdit or such.

Actually I have kept MacSword 1.4.3 for printing, hebrew vowels, greek accents and (until now) adjustable text size.

Simon

Posted by johnnymac221 at Mar 22, 2009 7:27:28 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi, I'm new here. Found the download through sourceforge. Just wondering if something was wrong with the www.macsword.com website. I haven't been able to go anywhere on it all day.

Thanks to those of you who are doing this. My main reason for downloading was the free access and the Rotherham's Emphasized Bible which is so hard to find.

Thanks,
John

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 23, 2009 3:07:46 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi there.

Hi, I'm new here. Found the download through sourceforge. Just wondering if something was wrong with the www.macsword.com website. I haven't been able to go anywhere on it all day.

Try http://macsword.com

For some reason www.macsword.com doesn't work since a couple of days.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by crenz at Mar 24, 2009 2:19:29 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Do you have a link to the update?

DUH!! I found it, thanks for the info

Dale


Could you share the link here as well? I was unable to find the update, and the update function from within 1.8.11 didn't work for me.

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 24, 2009 3:00:07 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
New beta arrived with the following changes/fixes:

• added support for right to left languages like Hebrew
• added module option Hebrew Vovel Points
• added module option Hebrew Cantillation
• added module option Greek Accents
• added search constrains for indexed search to right side bar. user can now define in which books the search should operate
• fixed task selection in module installer
• reimplementation of bible index code, should be much more relyable and stable. Indexing ESV works here.


The update service should work again.
Or use the link:
http://macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.2_173.app.zip



Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mac_david at Mar 24, 2009 7:10:11 AM
confused   Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hey guys,

its so cool to see this thing growing and developing!
Keep up the good work!!!

And I have one question/reqeust

I use my mac and my macsword when I prepare sessions for a little biblestudygroup... is there any possibility to implement a function that will copy and paste a marked verse(s) into an open openoffice writer document?
(The workflow is this: mark a verse(s) and hit the button/shortcut and MacSword will automatically copy and paste the selection into my office document)

That funktion would be overkill!!! :)

many blessings and divine ideas for the further development...
david


PS: The provided link doesnt work for me... :-/

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 24, 2009 7:54:04 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

And I have one question/reqeust

I use my mac and my macsword when I prepare sessions for a little biblestudygroup... is there any possibility to implement a function that will copy and paste a marked verse(s) into an open openoffice writer document?
(The workflow is this: mark a verse(s) and hit the button/shortcut and MacSword will automatically copy and paste the selection into my office document)

That funktion would be overkill!!! :)

Definitely. :)
Then we can do this also the TextEdit, MS Word and which else text processors are out there.


PS: The provided link doesnt work for me... :-/

Should work actually, just tested it.
We had some problems with this domain though you might want to reload in the browser.


Manfred

Posted by mac_david at Mar 24, 2009 8:21:24 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

That funktion would be overkill!!! :)

Definitely. :)
Then we can do this also the TextEdit, MS Word and which else text processors are out there.

YEAH, this is GREAT! I am excited!


Should work actually, just tested it.
We had some problems with this domain though you might want to reload in the browser.

Manfred

still dont work for me... :-/
I will try the update funktion of my macbook and give report back...

regards
david

Posted by mac_david at Mar 25, 2009 4:43:32 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
use this link - it works

http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.2_173.app.zip

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 25, 2009 6:27:16 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Both macsword.com and www.macsword.com should work and both work for me. But as I understand not for all.
This comes from the domain renewal and some DNS problem connected with that.
Seems it takes a while until all DNS servers are updated.


Manfred

Posted by Batt4Christ at Mar 25, 2009 10:30:53 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Which modules will work with this beta? Can the modules for eSword be used with the beta?

Posted by Batt4Christ at Mar 25, 2009 11:09:38 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
OK - got to the bottom of things... Have modules installed... BUT.

EVERY time a module (or modules if more than one) is installed, MacSword crashes.

Upon relaunch, the added modules appear. Got to the module manager - install another module - as soon as it is done - crash.

Panther 10.5.6
PowerMacintosh G5 Dual 1.8ghz
5GB ram

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 26, 2009 1:30:40 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Which modules will work with this beta? Can the modules for eSword be used with the beta?

No, none of the eSword modules can be used with any of our Applications.


Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 26, 2009 1:31:23 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

EVERY time a module (or modules if more than one) is installed, MacSword crashes.

Upon relaunch, the added modules appear. Got to the module manager - install another module - as soon as it is done - crash.

Hmm, thanks for the report.
I'll check it right away. This shouldn't be.


Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Mar 27, 2009 12:53:02 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I've released a bug fix version for the module installer crash.
Also I've changed the updater URL to www.macsword.com since we still have problems with macsword.com.

That means that hopefully, when you downloaded this release manually the updater should be working after that.

http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.2_174.app.zip


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mac_david at Mar 27, 2009 12:18:26 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hallo Manfred and Team,


during the work with MS_2 beta I found these 2 ideas useful - what do you think?

1) I really wish the shortbut back from version 1 to change chapters and books
(it was something like Apple-Key + left, right (chapters), up and down (books))

2) perhabs there is already a option to disable it!?! But now every line starts with the
book name and the Chapter:Verse, which is not that profitable when one will copy
not only one verse into a document, you know?

blessings,
david

Posted by christo2009 at Mar 31, 2009 11:24:07 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi,

I tried to install MacSword-1.9.2_174 but it seems i can't run it. In the console it says:
Symbol not found: _NSImageNameLockUnlockedTemplate
Referenced from: /Applications/MacSword.app/Contents/MacOS/MacSword
Expected in: /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit

Any help will be appreciate.Thanks.

Nb: I'm using powerbook G4 and OS X Tiger 10.4.11

EDITED:
Sorry, just ignored my post above. My bad, I don't read the first page carefully, it's not designed for tiger........
Thanks anyway for this great application......

Posted by mdbergmann at Apr 1, 2009 3:44:15 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Sorry for that.
You don't plan upgrading?
Snow Leopard is just around the corner already.

There should be a requester window poping up actually when running this on Tiger. Hmm, seems to be a bug.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by Simon at Apr 2, 2009 3:06:13 AM
Copying to word processors.

...any possibility to implement a function that will copy and paste a marked verse(s) into an open openoffice writer document?...

Definitely. :)
Then we can do this also the TextEdit, MS Word and which else text processors are out there.


Then don't forget Pages, Apple's own word processor, a part of the iWork package.

And again: Thankyou so much for a great work!
Simon

Posted by mdbergmann at Apr 2, 2009 3:33:19 AM
Re: Copying to word processors.

...any possibility to implement a function that will copy and paste a marked verse(s) into an open openoffice writer document?...

Definitely. :)
Then we can do this also the TextEdit, MS Word and which else text processors are out there.

Then don't forget Pages, Apple's own word processor, a part of the iWork package.

I actually need to apologize my reply wasn't actually meant like this.

To be honest I don't really see a benefit when you still can use copy&paste to get the text into other applications.
Implementing such a feature means a lot of work since many word processing applications use a different interface for pasting text (if it is possible at all).
Especially for OpenOffice you would need to use the UNO bridge to access pasting text (this is something like AppleScript for Mac apps) and this is quite hard to achieve from an Objective-C applicatiion. It would probably be easier for NeoOffice and application which have an AppleScript interface like Pages.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Apr 3, 2009 11:18:51 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi there.

again an update with the following changes/fixes:

• added new Sword engine with latest fixes.
• fixed a bug that caused that module option cross-references could not be enabled even though the module supported it.
• fixed module installer bug where one one install source could be refreshed.
• added reload toolbar button. this is for some cases when the content is not updated because it is buffered.
• enhanced the view add function of bible and commentary views. the + sign now holds a menu where the to be opened module can be chosen. This should also makes adding commentaries to the bottom more easy.
• fixed a minor issue where the comment textbox in the bookmark dialog was focused instead of the bookmark name textfield.
• fixed the toolbar text entry box so that it is able to scroll the text.
• added the option the show target text that is normally displayed in preview panel as a tooltip within the text.



To be downloaded here or via the updater:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.3-181.app.zip


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Apr 14, 2009 1:13:51 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
New beta version available with the following changes:

• better error checking, better overall stability.
• added bookmark highlighting with user defined fore- and background
color.
• added engine changes to support versification systems other than KJV.
• added Sword engine version 1.6.0rc1.
• fixed left sidebar issues when adding or moving bookmarks. In those
cases the tree view collapsed all items.
• added recents menu to search text box. the menu holds the last 10
recent searches for reference and index search.
• session now stores also module and display options.
• added "Show Verse number only" which shows only the verse number in
"Verses on one line" mode.
• fixed main menu issues where the menuitems under "View" were
disabled.
• fixed a problem with indexed search where the book selection wasn't
distributed to other parallel views.

Use the updater or download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.4-194.app.zip


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mac_david at Apr 14, 2009 3:24:52 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
• added "Show Verse number only" which shows only the verse number in
"Verses on one line" mode.


You ROCK! Thank you so much for all the beta and especially for that feature...!!! Priceless!
blessings,
david

Posted by mac_david at Apr 15, 2009 12:59:41 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hello Manfred,

I cannot change the fonts of the bibleversions in the panels via the preferences... the app doesnt accept any changes (1.9.3. did)... but in 1.9.3. I could not change the fonttype
my desired setting is Times new Roman BOLD and ITALIC (or what that name)


Will you be able to implement a function that the user will personalize the layout more than now? What I mean is this: I would really love to see a possibilty to display a bible version and a commentary side by side... at the moment its only possible to display them one above the other...


Any last one :)
Do you think there is a chance to display pdf files within the app? I have some commentaries as pdf file and I would love to see them also within the macsword program... but I dont know if this is possible...


blessings,
david

Posted by pomdet at Apr 25, 2009 5:16:58 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
The versions after 1.9.2 crashed on start-up for me. Deleting my modules and downloading them again from the module installer in 1.9.4 seems to have fixed the problem.

There seems to be a bug when editing personal commentaries (I created it in MacSword). Changes to the last verse displayed aren't saved. I can get around this issue by also displaying the verse after the one I am editing.

I also noticed that entering a reference to 1kin or 1king goes to 1 Samuel instead of 1 Kings (and the same references to 2 Kings go to 2 Samuel). 1kgs & 1kings do work correctly.

Posted by mdbergmann at Apr 26, 2009 7:14:16 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Again a new update:

• fixed a problem on commentary editing where the last verse comment wasn't saved.
• SWORD engine update to RC2.
• fixed problems with session restoring where the text of all tabs initially was the same.
• fixed startup problems where text has been loaded several times.
• indexing and searching the index is now done threaded. This brings the progress overlay view back as it is with reference lookup.
• further indexing/searching fixes. Open indexes are now shared and only closed if no instance uses it any longer.
• index search results can now show a verse context.
• indexed text is not not stored in the index itself any longer. This reduces the index file size by more than half.
• increased maximum size of search text box in toolbar.

Use the updater or download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.5-202.app.zip


Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Apr 26, 2009 7:15:12 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
The versions after 1.9.2 crashed on start-up for me. Deleting my modules and downloading them again from the module installer in 1.9.4 seems to have fixed the problem.

There seems to be a bug when editing personal commentaries (I created it in MacSword). Changes to the last verse displayed aren't saved. I can get around this issue by also displaying the verse after the one I am editing.

I also noticed that entering a reference to 1kin or 1king goes to 1 Samuel instead of 1 Kings (and the same references to 2 Kings go to 2 Samuel). 1kgs & 1kings do work correctly.


Thanks.
Both of the issues you mention are fixed, see change log of last post.
The reference lookup issue was fixed in SWORD RC2 which this updates includes.


Best regards,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at May 6, 2009 1:10:19 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi.

Update available:

• SWORD engine update to RC3.
• added CMD L shortcut to focus the text entry box.
• added next/previous book/chapter shortcuts.
• added locale strings for toolbar buttons/items.
• fixes to progress overlay view display on index operations.
• fixed showing book set view when switching to indexed search and search text was empty.

Use the updater or download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.6-207.app.zip


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at May 14, 2009 1:18:31 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Another update available:

• fixed a problem in the module installer where no data was shown and no install sources could be added.
• added custom session loading and saving. session can now saved as custom files and also loaded.
• removed the forward and back button sin the toolbar. history is handled by the recents menu in the search text field.
• added rudimentary printing support. views with a single open module are printed as is. for views with multiple parallel bibles and commentaries only the first one is printed (this need more work obviously).
• text in the left side bar cells is now truncated instead of wrapped.
• added module about menu item to context menu.

Use the updater or download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-1.9.7-212.app.zip


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by koodimyyra at May 19, 2009 1:18:55 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Still crashing on launch for me. Removing modules and installing them again from Module Manager solved this as well. I'm running OS X 10.5.7 and MacSword 1.9.7-212. Here's the crash log.

And, thanks for the great app :)

Posted by mdbergmann at Jun 9, 2009 8:28:16 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
First full version beta:

- added SWORD engine 1.6.0 final release.
- fixed a bug where a cache object was used instead of the performed index search result. this happened when the search word was a book name.
- fixed a bug in index search result display where the font size change was not applied.
- removed module manager icon in main toolbar.
- added master install source list synchronization in module installer. default install sources can now be fetched via a toolbar button.
- added next/previous book, chapter buttons.

Use the updater or download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-2.0.0b1-216.app.zip


Cheers,
Manfred

Posted by Eric at Jun 21, 2009 5:59:49 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Is it possible to run MacSword 1.4.3 in one instance and on the same machine run 2.0.0? Can someone walk me through the process to do this? THANKS!

MacBook Pro 4,1 (Penryn, early 2008), Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, OS 10.5.7
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Posted by mdbergmann at Jun 21, 2009 12:49:35 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Is it possible to run MacSword 1.4.3 in one instance and on the same machine run 2.0.0? Can someone walk me through the process to do this? THANKS!

MacBook Pro 4,1 (Penryn, early 2008), Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, OS 10.5.7

That's possible, yes.
Both use separate preferences and search index files.
The only thing that both share are the module installations.

There is not much to guide you through. Just start the application as you need it.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by jlfmusic at Jul 11, 2009 7:16:24 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Thank you for the announcement.
If this issue has been addressed elsewhere, please direct me to the page - I could not find an answer.
According to the post, the requirements for the 2.0 Beta and the eventual 2.0 are Leopard 10.5
Will Tiger 10.4.11 users be able install this release?
There are very many Tiger users who did not upgrade to Leopard and who are using older Macs.
The latest MacSword release for Tiger that I can find, 1.4.2, still has the "ephelimos" bug with the KJV module with Strongs Greek and other problems that have been address here at the forums. Are we going to be forced to continue using this problematic release or is there a fix that I have not found or do not know about?

Thank you for a reply.

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 4, 2009 1:27:30 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
New beta:

- index search highlighting uses a darker red.
- fixed backlock that could happen on on-the-fly indexing which resulted in the application being unresponsive.
- OK button text is now "OK" instead "Ok".
- new workspace is opened on launch if the default session doesn't contain a window.
- changed book/chapter previous/forward buttons.
- window/tab titles are now changed depending on the module and search reference.
- adding a new commentary or bible view, the current search reference is automatically applied.
- about window text area is not editable anymore.

Use the updater or download here:
http://www.macsword.com/macsword2/download/MacSword-2.0.0b2-222.app.zip


Cheers,
Manfred

Posted by crenz at Aug 5, 2009 2:33:46 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Manfred, thanks a lot for your efforts!

Two questions: 1) is the personal commentary thing suposed to work already? I'm able to create modules, but I can't edit them.
2) Is MacSword 2 still open source? Do you accept patches?

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 6, 2009 12:36:06 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Two questions: 1) is the personal commentary thing suposed to work already? I'm able to create modules, but I can't edit them.

Yes, they are supposed to work.
However it doesn't work with the Personal Commentary module that is available for download at CrossWire, except you add "Editable=YES" to the conf file.
You need to create a commentary module from within MacSword.

2) Is MacSword 2 still open source? Do you accept patches?

Yes, it is under GPL2 license and yes, I accept patches. :)


Manfred

Posted by Dale at Aug 7, 2009 7:07:48 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hey Manfred, Good Work my man, Good Work.

Quick question, For some unknown reason, maybe I hit a button but I lost the text in a few of the Bible translations not the book and verse just the text, any ideas??

Dale


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Posted by Dale at Aug 7, 2009 7:14:13 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Here is what I'm getting:




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Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 7, 2009 9:31:07 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Strange, I'm not having this iiue here.
Did you try hitting the refresh button?

Posted by Dale at Aug 7, 2009 10:08:10 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I'm sure it's something I did, it happened before the update. Yeah, I've tried just about everything I can think of short of clean install, just didn't know if you had seen this before.

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Posted by crenz at Aug 9, 2009 3:48:02 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Manfred, thanks for the quick reply. I took a look at the editing feature again and noticed that I always clicked next to the verse and couldn't type there - but once you click below, it works fine for me. So know I now.

I noticed a few smaller issues (like e.g. the add bookmark dialog cannot be closed using the ESC button), and was thinking it might be easier to just submit a patch rather than writing long posts describing them. Is the repository described at http://sourceforge.net/projects/macsword/develop the current one for MacSword 2?

Posted by crenz at Aug 9, 2009 3:50:04 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
So know I now.


Ooops, I guess I should get more coffee :-)

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 9, 2009 4:02:57 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Is the repository described at http://sourceforge.net/projects/macsword/develop the current one for MacSword 2?

The current SVN trunk of MacSword 2 is here:
https://macsword.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/macsword/macsword/trunk


Manfred

Posted by Dale at Aug 9, 2009 7:10:52 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I fixed it, there was duplicate module from an update, must have confused the program.

Dale
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Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 11, 2009 5:59:13 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
New version of MacSword released.

If no show stoppers are discovered this might get the final version and will be released shortly.


Manfred

Posted by sgtoh1919 at Aug 12, 2009 3:21:35 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
It seems like

- Focus search Text box
- Next book
- Previous book
- Next chapter
- Previous chapter

keyboard shortcuts are not working. Can you check? (Version 2.0.0rc1-225)

Also, I was wondering if you could assign same shortcuts for both "Switch to Reference lookup" and "Switch to Index lookup" since you are moving from one lookup mode to another. Something like "Switch lookup mode" -> command R

God bless,

TJ

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 12, 2009 11:58:41 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
It seems like

- Focus search Text box
- Next book
- Previous book
- Next chapter
- Previous chapter

keyboard shortcuts are not working. Can you check? (Version 2.0.0rc1-225)

Yes, thanks. Fixed it.


Also, I was wondering if you could assign same shortcuts for both "Switch to Reference lookup" and "Switch to Index lookup" since you are moving from one lookup mode to another. Something like "Switch lookup mode" -> command R

Yes, we can do that. Two shortcuts are not necessary here.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by chasm at Aug 19, 2009 4:02:54 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I've been experimenting with the new beta for a while, and here's some questions/comments.

Are there going to be more flexible options with the text layout? One thing I've missed from 1.4 is the smooth and crisp font layout with margins and colored titles/verse numbers. The new layout has a lot of benefits, but it's very crowded. If I shrink or hide the sidebars to make more room, it feels stretched. If anything, an option to add margins (so the text wouldn't feel quite so boxed in) would be nice. I attend a weekly college level Bible class where I share my laptop's bible with a friend, and I find the new layout to harder to read for extended periods of time.

I like how the newest version saves sidebar widths, but the transition from windowed to fullscreen messes that up a little. Rather than the fullscreen mode having the same fixed width as windowed, it tends to "scale" out to be larger. If I readjust them in full screen, the sidebars will be much narrower when I return to windowed. Is this intended? On a side note, perhaps an option to smoothly show/hide the sidebars would be a cool addition...

Now, perhaps the most irritating aspect of MacSword 2 is the search feature. The background indexing takes forever and eats up a whole core of my processor. I am using a 4,1 Unibody Macbook Pro with 2.4 gHZ processor and 4 GB RAM, and it took MacSword 20 minute to index the KJV. After all that, I at least hoped the search would work, but no such luck. After I enter a term and hit Return, simply nothing happens. I?should note as an experiment I completely erased all MacSword files from my hard drive, and installed 1.4 by itself. I installed some modules, and ran a search. The first attempt didn't work, but on the second try on a relaunch a few minute later, I got nearly instant results from the whole KJV. What is different between 1.4 and 2, and why does 2 take so long to index?

I set KJV as my default Bible yet when I started a new Bible window, I got a different version first every time, with KJV listed under it. Does the default option really work?

One more question…Could the keyboard shortcut for returning from fullscreen mode be changed to the Escape key? It is much more Mac-like and intuitive, in my opinion. The Command-Option-F command is fine for entering fullscreen, but Escape seems more natural to exit fullscreen.
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Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 20, 2009 12:37:24 AM
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Hi chasm.

Thanks for your feedback.

Are there going to be more flexible options with the text layout? One thing I've missed from 1.4 is the smooth and crisp font layout with margins and colored titles/verse numbers. The new layout has a lot of benefits, but it's very crowded. If I shrink or hide the sidebars to make more room, it feels stretched. If anything, an option to add margins (so the text wouldn't feel quite so boxed in) would be nice.

Yes, we can add adjustible margins.
Also other layout options will come in the future.


I like how the newest version saves sidebar widths, but the transition from windowed to fullscreen messes that up a little. Rather than the fullscreen mode having the same fixed width as windowed, it tends to "scale" out to be larger. If I readjust them in full screen, the sidebars will be much narrower when I return to windowed. Is this intended?

No, I haven't noticed this.
I'll check it.

On a side note, perhaps an option to smoothly show/hide the sidebars would be a cool addition...

The left side bar actually is hidden and shown using Core Animation and should actually be smooth but it isn't. Don't know why right now.
This made me just remove and add the side bar on the right without animation.
Probably there are some Core Animation settings to do this more smooth and I just didn't find them. :)

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 20, 2009 12:37:41 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

Now, perhaps the most irritating aspect of MacSword 2 is the search feature. The background indexing takes forever and eats up a whole core of my processor. I am using a 4,1 Unibody Macbook Pro with 2.4 gHZ processor and 4 GB RAM, and it took MacSword 20 minute to index the KJV.

Indexing is an expensive process. It needs a lot of CPU time. However the background indexer is a thread that runs at low priority and will be suppressed if there are other things for the CPU To to that have higher priority.
Also the background indexer indexes all your installed modules. Depending on how many you have installed the indexing process can take from 30 seconds (for maybe one module) to a couple of hours (if you have installed really a lot).
How do you know 20 minutes were used for the KJV? Do you only have the KJV installed?
Background indexing takes some time on the first start or whenever new modules are installed. The CPU usage might be a bit irritating especially on Notebooks when the fan comes up. But all this is totally normal for CPU intensive tasks.
But one the indexes are created you can search all modules instantly.


After all that, I at least hoped the search would work, but no such luck. After I enter a term and hit Return, simply nothing happens.

Sorry for asking this but it needs to be clear.
You changed to indexed search mode in the toolbar before entering the search string?
Did you try switching off background indexing?

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 20, 2009 12:37:51 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

I?should note as an experiment I completely erased all MacSword files from my hard drive, and installed 1.4 by itself. I installed some modules, and ran a search. The first attempt didn't work, but on the second try on a relaunch a few minute later, I got nearly instant results from the whole KJV. What is different between 1.4 and 2, and why does 2 take so long to index?

See above. You can switch off background indexing to get a similar behaviour than in MacSword 1.4 - indexing on request if no index exists.


I set KJV as my default Bible yet when I started a new Bible window, I got a different version first every time, with KJV listed under it. Does the default option really work?

Hmm, have to check this. Normally the default bible should get opened.
This setting also is for lookups in commentaries, dictionaries and genbooks for when you click or hover over bible references the default bible is used to lookup the text. This at least works.


One more question…Could the keyboard shortcut for returning from fullscreen mode be changed to the Escape key? It is much more Mac-like and intuitive, in my opinion. The Command-Option-F command is fine for entering fullscreen, but Escape seems more natural to exit fullscreen.

Yep I'll check this.


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by chasm at Aug 20, 2009 9:38:25 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I'll try to clear up a few things...

Indexing is an expensive process. It needs a lot of CPU time. However the background indexer is a thread that runs at low priority and will be suppressed if there are other things for the CPU To to that have higher priority.

This makes perfect sense, and I had a minimum of other apps running when the indexer was going, and it still took quite a long while. Just to compare speeds between both programs, I completely uninstalled everything and reinstalled MacSword 1.4. I got the indexing done in just a few minutes. Interestingly, 1.4 does not seem to have any option in the prefs or anywhere at all specifically for toggling background indexing. I have looked for it.

How do you know 20 minutes were used for the KJV? Do you only have the KJV installed?.

Tell you the truth, I'm not sure exactly what I had installed at the time, but when I did the said reinstallations, I still got that much a delay on the KJV, and I added the Strongs afterwards and it didn't seem to take quite as long indexing. I think it might have something to do with the KJV module itself, as I had to relaunch MacSword a couple times before it recognized the KJV module I had installed for 1.4 when I first used 2.
Sorry for asking this but it needs to be clear.
You changed to indexed search mode in the toolbar before entering the search string?
Did you try switching off background indexing?

Yes, I switched to Indexed Search mode. It's clearly recognizable from the normal mode, of course. As for switching Bacground indexing, I hadn't tried that, but I was reasonably certain it wasn't indexing anything anymore, since the application was snappy and responsive, and I hadn't installed any more modules.

Just in case anything I said isn't clear, here is a screenshot I took and uploaded just before typing this line. I get no result on any searches, even after waiting a while after entering a term.


mm, have to check this. Normally the default bible should get opened.
This setting also is for lookups in commentaries, dictionaries and genbooks for when you click or hover over bible references the default bible is used to lookup the text. This at least works.

All I know is that when I had that problem, it was because a different bible text I had downloaded before KJV at that time always showed up on top. It seemed the MacSword 2 preferred Bible texts first downloaded over user-selected default. I will note that I had deleted that other bible text before I ever activated background indexing, so the KJV was the only bible module getting indexed when I was having the indexing issues I mentioned earlier. I will also say that so far I've had no more problems with KJV not being the default in new bible windows, so I think that MacSword 2 really was choosing based on install order over default.

See above. You can switch off background indexing to get a similar behaviour than in MacSword 1.4 - indexing on request if no index exists.

See above. I mentioned that I could not find any such preference in 1.4. I sincerely looked very hard for it. :)

Anyways, I hope my posts are helpful. Thanks for working so hard on this app to make it better. :)

(By the way, is there a way to edit posts on this forum? I haven't found it)
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Posted by chasm at Aug 20, 2009 10:11:09 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Sorry for double-posting, in case it's discouraged practice on these forums (it is on most; can't be too careful).

The left side bar actually is hidden and shown using Core Animation and should actually be smooth but it isn't. Don't know why right now.
This made me just remove and add the side bar on the right without animation.
Probably there are some Core Animation settings to do this more smooth and I just didn't find them. :)

By this, you are referring to the smooth show/hide when I press the toggle button? I was referring to an option to have the sidebars always hidden unless I move the mouse to the appropriate edge of the window, similar to the Mac OS X Dock's ability to hide beyond the edge of the screen if you want it to. This option would be great in windowed mode, and super-totally-awesome-great in fullscreen, especially since the buttons to toggle the sidebars disappear in fullscreen. In my opinion, there should be an option to have both sidebars and the top bar hide from view until needed in fullscreen view. I am aware that I can manually hide the sidebars by dragging them, but having them all hide automatically would be oh-so-slicker and Mac OS X. biggrin

By the way, for some reason the fixed sidebar widths in MacSword 2 don't seem to work as well as they were... if I relaunch MacSword 2 after manually adjusting sidebar widths, they will appear back in their default widths and I have to readjust them again.
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Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 20, 2009 11:57:30 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Indexing is an expensive process. It needs a lot of CPU time. However the background indexer is a thread that runs at low priority and will be suppressed if there are other things for the CPU To to that have higher priority.

This makes perfect sense, and I had a minimum of other apps running when the indexer was going, and it still took quite a long while. Just to compare speeds between both programs, I completely uninstalled everything and reinstalled MacSword 1.4. I got the indexing done in just a few minutes. Interestingly, 1.4 does not seem to have any option in the prefs or anywhere at all specifically for toggling background indexing. I have looked for it.

MacSword 1.4 doesn't have this background indexer "feature". MacSword 1.4 _always_ indexes on-the-fly. The same does MacSword 2 if you switch off the background indexer.
Then indexing one module is faster than indexing many more.

I suggest you disable the background indexer, delete the index that was created by MacSword 2 and try again. Index files store for MacSword 2 are here:
/Users/<yourlogin>/Library/Application Support/MacSword/Index (Folder)
If you still have trouble, please send me the MacSword 2 log file:
/Users/<yourlogin>/Library/MacSword2.log


mm, have to check this. Normally the default bible should get opened.
This setting also is for lookups in commentaries, dictionaries and genbooks for when you click or hover over bible references the default bible is used to lookup the text. This at least works.

All I know is that when I had that problem, it was because a different bible text I had downloaded before KJV at that time always showed up on top. It seemed the MacSword 2 preferred Bible texts first downloaded over user-selected default. I will note that I had deleted that other bible text before I ever activated background indexing, so the KJV was the only bible module getting indexed when I was having the indexing issues I mentioned earlier. I will also say that so far I've had no more problems with KJV not being the default in new bible windows, so I think that MacSword 2 really was choosing based on install order over default.

Yes, for opening new windows or views actually also the default bible should be used.
I haven't checked yet but I suspect this simply is a bug.


See above. You can switch off background indexing to get a similar behaviour than in MacSword 1.4 - indexing on request if no index exists.

See above. I mentioned that I could not find any such preference in 1.4. I sincerely looked very hard for it. :)

I meant to switch off the background indexer in MacSword 2. MacSword 1.4 doesn't have this setting. :)


Anyways, I hope my posts are helpful. Thanks for working so hard on this app to make it better. :)

Thanks.


(By the way, is there a way to edit posts on this forum? I haven't found it)

I can edit them. I'll check in the admin section if this can we configured.

Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 21, 2009 12:02:47 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Sorry for double-posting, in case it's discouraged practice on these forums (it is on most; can't be too careful).

The left side bar actually is hidden and shown using Core Animation and should actually be smooth but it isn't. Don't know why right now.
This made me just remove and add the side bar on the right without animation.
Probably there are some Core Animation settings to do this more smooth and I just didn't find them. :)

By this, you are referring to the smooth show/hide when I press the toggle button? I was referring to an option to have the sidebars always hidden unless I move the mouse to the appropriate edge of the window, similar to the Mac OS X Dock's ability to hide beyond the edge of the screen if you want it to. This option would be great in windowed mode, and super-totally-awesome-great in fullscreen, especially since the buttons to toggle the sidebars disappear in fullscreen. In my opinion, there should be an option to have both sidebars and the top bar hide from view until needed in fullscreen view. I am aware that I can manually hide the sidebars by dragging them, but having them all hide automatically would be oh-so-slicker and Mac OS X. biggrin

That's a good idea actually.
I will think about it.

What do you think of the full-screen view in general?
Actually it is not finished yet and is more like a "technology-preview".
You also can't enter search strings. I though of something similar for a search view that you proposed for the side bars.
Since the search text bar is in the window frame it is not part of the full-screen view.


Manfred

Posted by chasm at Aug 21, 2009 12:50:18 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
What do you think of the full-screen view in general?
Actually it is not finished yet and is more like a "technology-preview".
You also can't enter search strings. I though of something similar for a search view that you proposed for the side bars.
Since the search text bar is in the window frame it is not part of the full-screen view.

In general, the fullscreen mode shows a lot of promise, and already serves its basic purpose well, that of removing nearly every distraction and making the text the key focus. With a few more enhancements, it would be excellent.

Here is my idea of what the fullscreen mode should be when finished. The interface should have the sidebars and top bar exactly as they are in windowed mode (with auto-hide), and the search feature could even work exactly as it does in windowed, that is the bible text view is replaced by the index lookup. Keyboard shortcuts for chapter/book navigation would be intuitive, and for mouse lovers, an OSX floating control (like in Leopard Quick Look) would be useful (and a user-defined preference, since keyboarders like me might find it annoying). Multi-touch trackpad support for scroll, text size and chapter navigation would be wonderful, but not absolutely necessary. On top of that, have separate preferences for text size and the hypothetical adjustable margins for windowed and fullscreen mode. If the text size stays the same between both, then either the fullscreen would seem too spacious or the windowed would seem too crowded.

By the way, would it be possible to implement an index-free method of searching? It can be used very successfully, like it is for file searching in EasyFind.

Also, thanks for enabling post editing! No more double posts from me. love struck

EDIT: After using MacSword 2 for a bible class, I have some more comments.

• If I go into fullscreen in a Workspace (not a single view), and I have more than one reference up in tabs, the right column will reset to a program set default width when I switch tabs, while the left column remains where I set it.

• More info on that "default bible" issue: Turns out I still have the issue with the bible I select as default not being the one that opens by default in new windows/tabs. I have concluded that MacSword is choosing based on alphabetical order of bible text names. I had only the Geneva1599 Bible and KJV (KJV set as default in prefs), and the Geneva1599 always came first. I uninstalled the Geneva1599 and installed the Wesley Bible, and KJV came first, naturally. Then I reinstalled the Geneva1599 to complete the test of this bug, and naturally the Geneva1599 came first in every new window and tab once again.

• If you resize the window really thin, the chapter/verse navigation buttons will layer underneath the menus in the toolbar, rather than disappearing and being replaced with a menu listing the hidden buttons. The text menus will also simply disappear when you resize the window narrow enough. Also, if you resize the window thin enough that the sidebars overlap and expand the window back, the verse button will be cropped off the edge (more cropped if you overlapped the sidebars more), and the scroll bar for the chapter list will be missing. To restore the buttons and scroll bar, you need to open a new window or relaunch MacSword.

• Background indexing is and has been off, and no searches are possible. Tomorrow I will try deleting the indexes again. (They were deleted when I completely erased all MacSword files from my hard drive to conduct a test of the indexing speeds of 1.4 and 2)

Weird, I've been using MacSword more than I've done any other computer stuff today... That's me, the beta software addict. (Would you believe I once found a big bug in a commercially released Mac board game, and got myself free access to the preview releases of the next version because of it? True story.) laughing
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Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 21, 2009 3:44:03 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
chasm.

Thanks for your feedback. I just read briefly though it. Will do more later.
I just noticed that in your screenshot, the right side scroll bar is iTunes like. How did you do this?

Manfred

Posted by chasm at Aug 21, 2009 6:53:02 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Thanks for your feedback. I just read briefly though it. Will do more later.
I just noticed that in your screenshot, the right side scroll bar is iTunes like. How did you do this?

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I have iLeopard installed on my system. It unifies almost all of the Leopard GUI to the iTunes look. I will certainly miss it when I upgrade to Snow Leopard, since Apple has yet to simply unify their GUI between apps. Notice also the duller and more metallic "traffic lights" in my screenshot. That's iLeopard too. Apparently, MacSword must be using its own graphics for the checkboxes, or those would be iLeopard as well.
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Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 22, 2009 12:50:06 AM
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Thanks for your feedback. I just read briefly though it. Will do more later.
I just noticed that in your screenshot, the right side scroll bar is iTunes like. How did you do this?

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I have iLeopard installed on my system. It unifies almost all of the Leopard GUI to the iTunes look. I will certainly miss it when I upgrade to Snow Leopard, since Apple has yet to simply unify their GUI between apps. Notice also the duller and more metallic "traffic lights" in my screenshot. That's iLeopard too. Apparently, MacSword must be using its own graphics for the checkboxes, or those would be iLeopard as well.

iLeopard, ok, nice. :)
No, actually the check boxes are normal Cocoa controls but are cells, no views, in the table view. Maybe this is a corner case for iLeopard which it can't handle.

Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 22, 2009 4:27:01 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Here is my idea of what the fullscreen mode should be when finished. ...

That's all good ideas. However this means quite some work and will need some time.

By the way, would it be possible to implement an index-free method of searching? It can be used very successfully, like it is for file searching in EasyFind.

That's possible but slow.
Finding all occurences of a search string in a whole bible takes as long as indexing. The difference between looking for one occurence and all is that for all the whole bible text needs to be searched. There would be some algorithms which reduce the search time from linear to log something for when you want to look for one occurence.
And then you have to implement your own algorithm for logical operators, group and phrase search options which SearchKit already has.


• If I go into fullscreen in a Workspace (not a single view), and I have more than one reference up in tabs, the right column will reset to a program set default width when I switch tabs, while the left column remains where I set it.

This is also in windowed mode. Noted.

• More info on that "default bible" issue: Turns out I still have the issue with the bible I select as default not being the one that opens by default in new windows/tabs. I have concluded that MacSword is choosing based on alphabetical order of bible text names. I had only the Geneva1599 Bible and KJV (KJV set as default in prefs), and the Geneva1599 always came first. I uninstalled the Geneva1599 and installed the Wesley Bible, and KJV came first, naturally. Then I reinstalled the Geneva1599 to complete the test of this bug, and naturally the Geneva1599 came first in every new window and tab once again.

Internally all modules are in a list which is sorted for name and then the first module of that list was taken.
Fixed.

• If you resize the window really thin, the chapter/verse navigation buttons will layer underneath the menus in the toolbar, rather than disappearing and being replaced with a menu listing the hidden buttons. The text menus will also simply disappear when you resize the window narrow enough. Also, if you resize the window thin enough that the sidebars overlap and expand the window back, the verse button will be cropped off the edge (more cropped if you overlapped the sidebars more), and the scroll bar for the chapter list will be missing. To restore the buttons and scroll bar, you need to open a new window or relaunch MacSword.

Changing controls, for example making a menu out of the book/chapter buttons, when they can't be displayed means lots of work which could go someplace else.
I have set a minimum window size which fixes those issues for now.

Weird, I've been using MacSword more than I've done any other computer stuff today... That's me, the beta software addict. (Would you believe I once found a big bug in a commercially released Mac board game, and got myself free access to the preview releases of the next version because of it? True story.) laughing

It's good to have people testing like you. As developer you normally don't really see all the small issues of software you did yourself.

Regards,
Manfred

Posted by chasm at Aug 22, 2009 4:45:41 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Here is my idea of what the fullscreen mode should be when finished. ...


That's all good ideas. However this means quite some work and will need some time.

You don't have to do it all... You asked me what I thought of the fullscreen mode in general, and then I answered and got carried away with my ideas. Once I gave so many ideas to a developer who was making a freeware game, and he ended up making it into a shareware game instead. Another true story. laughing

That's possible but slow.
Finding all occurences of a search string in a whole bible takes as long as indexing. The difference between looking for one occurence and all is that for all the whole bible text needs to be searched. There would be some algorithms which reduce the search time from linear to log something for when you want to look for one occurence.
And then you have to implement your own algorithm for logical operators, group and phrase search options which SearchKit already has.

Yeah, I guess so. I'm not a developer (yet), so I'll take your word for it. tongue

It's good to have people testing like you. As developer you normally don't really see all the small issues of software you did yourself.

Regards,
Manfred
Just glad to use your software. Best thing since Online Bible, and I don't need Rosetta to use it. :)
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Posted by chasm at Aug 28, 2009 10:54:14 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
*lurks forums for days without any sign of activity*

*detects a new version of MacSword*

*activates*

And suddenly, I'm back to talk about the newest update to MacSword. Miss me? :)

(Now in Categorized Crits™)
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Sidebars

Bugs

• The right sidebar still has a mind of its own, and will resize to a default width whenever you open/close/switch a tab in a Workspace window.

• Sidebar widths reset to defaults when MacSword closes.

• The sidebars "scale" their widths between fullscreen and windowed mode. If I resize the sidebars to "just right" in windowed, they are too wide in fullscreen, and if I resize the sidebars in fullscreen to be "just right", they are too narrow in windowed. (yikes, that sounded like Goldilocks was testing this)

• Whenever I open a new window or launch MacSword, the sidebars roll out to their default widths with a Core Graphics flair. Nice effect, but I still have to adjust them every time to make the best use of window space.

Windows and layouts

Bugs

• The minimum window width is fine for Reference Lookup, but in Index Lookup, the disclosure triangle for TextContext overlaps the left Book arrow.

• The "All", "None", and "Invert" buttons don't work when "All" in the pull-down menu above the books of the Bible is selected. This seems intentional, and it makes sense. Perhaps dim the buttons to make it more obvious? I had forgotten that I had left "All" selected when I was testing this layout, and I wondered why those buttons weren't working...

• The new adjustable margins don't adjust. While the default margins are there (and improve some of the "crowded" feel of the previous version), any new values entered into the prefs are not saved.

Suggestions

• Make the lines for adjustable margins visible when the cursor hovers over them for a second, and adjustable by click-and drag, such that if the left margin is adjusted, the right margin mirrors the change, and vice versa with top/bottom margins.

• Make the sidebars of equal height, possibly by expanding the top bar. This would probably make auto-hide effects smoother-looking (if they are implemented)

• Better yet, a redesign of the interface. Put the Lookup Mode toggle and search field into the right sidebar, and put all the module options and book/chapter navigation in the title bar, eliminating the double top bars. In the Workspace, tabs could take on the tabs-on-top feel that Safari 4 Beta had, and in fullscreen, they would be bottom-tabs that attach under the module options and stuff, and auto-hide into the top of the screen when not needed. Also in fullscreen, the cursor would hide after a delay, and trackpad scrolling would not necessarily make the cursor reappear.

Where do the Lookup mode Toggle and search filed go in the right sidebar? The toggle could go in the top center, and the search field under it. When in Reference Lookup, the books of the bible /module chapters display, and in Index Lookup, the search tools show. The text in the main window need not change unless an action takes place in the sidebar. If scripture is up and Index Lookup is launched, the scripture will not be affected until a search is entered and the results display. Vice versa with search results and Reference Lookup.

Mockup (made in Pages, believe it or not):

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Posted by chasm at Aug 28, 2009 10:55:47 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
(Sorry double post, but the forum wouldn't let me post the whole thing in one post...)
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Indexing/Search

Fixed

• YAY! It worketh now! Not right away, but I did get it to work by first letting it auto-index, deleting the indexes, and letting it run again. I must also say that the indexing speed seemed greatly improved, but it could just be inconsequential.

Feature Requests (most mentioned before, but to put them together)

• No limit on text size, or more font-size options. Especially on larger widescreen displays, bigger font is helpful.

• Separate settings for font size for fullscreen and windowed, as mentioned before.

• Auto-hide of sidebars and toolbar in fullscreen. These would by default be hidden, and overlay over the text when activated (or scale the text, which could slow things down... overlay would work fine). The sidebars and the toolbar would not necessarily pop out of hiding instantly when the cursor moves to them (unlike the Dock), but could stand to wait half a second just in case the user didn't really want or need the sidebars yet. Also, having the cursor disappear when not in use would be great as well.

• Multi-touch trackpad support for text size (a wish, not a need).

• Adjustable margins that can be adjusted manually in the window.

• Options to change font alignment, and chapter/book heading colors. Why font alignment? When I have two or more translations side by side in the same window, center align might make the text easier to read. Also, suppose someone in the Middle East likes to read their MacSword bible in Arabic, and wants to read right to left... (I'm not Middle Eastern, just thought I'd mention them)

• Cross-referencing by clicking on verse numbers like links to go to a Cross Reference display. (Just another wish)

EDIT: Forgot to mention, the default bible issue is resolved. Thanks! :)

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Okay, I'm done for now. Within a week or two, I will have Snow Leopard, so I will do another volley of tests on MacSword then. For now, I will resume lurking around invisibly...
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Posted by transalpin at Aug 29, 2009 4:53:45 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hello! Thanks for providing such great app!
Allow me to add a few suggestions for improvement:

- For those of us working with different languages, more font options would be welcome! The user.css file in previous versions was a viable way to accomplish that, but I’d prefer an option that lets us specify a different font for each module: New Peninim for Hebrew, some Gothic typeface for Wulfila, Schwabacher blackletter for Lut1545lh, BiauKai for Trad.Chinese, etc.

- The beta didn’t recognize existing modules, I had to reinstall them, which wasn’t all that intuitive. Maybe the app should open the Module Installer automatically if no modules are available to work with.
- Modules should be installed one by one, pressing a simple button “Install” next to the module’s name. Much like downloading songs from the iTunes Store.
- Please, please display a processing bar while indexing to give the user some clue of what’s going on and for how long.
- In column view, “Found n verse(s)” takes up too much space and shows the same number of verses for every module (even in empty columns). It should therefore be moved to the grey options bar above or elsewhere for minimal use of screen estate.
- “Show/Hide” could read “Show” and “Hide” respectively, if this is easily possible.
- Basically, counters are a good thing, but these look a bit like the counters for unread emails in Mail or new podcast episodes in iTunes—the ones that you would want to get rid of.

Some bugs:
- If you want to bring an obscured prefs window to the front via MacSword > Preferences (cmd+,) a second prefs window appears while the first one remains in the background. Also, prefs don’t need an OK button in Mac OS X.
- Switching the “search type” resets the search field.
- Links in search results don’t work.
- “Cancel” button cannot be accessed via esc key.
- Full Screen mode cannot be escaped via esc key. Cmd+Tab don’t work either.

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 29, 2009 12:48:21 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Uff. Guys, you keep me busy. :)
I'm away until Wednesday next week, so don't expect answers until then.

Posted by mdbergmann at Aug 29, 2009 2:19:22 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Ok, I still have some time before leaving...
Thanks you two for your feedback. It is much appreciated.

I have put many of your input into the issue tracker so I can work on them and they don't get lost.

@chasm:

Options to change font alignment

What do you mean by "font alignment".
Hebrew and Arabic text is display in RtoL automatically.

@transalpin:

The beta didn’t recognize existing modules, I had to reinstall them, which wasn’t all that intuitive. Maybe the app should open the Module Installer automatically if no modules are available to work with.

I got a few reports that modules were not recognized from the previous version. The problem is I can't reproduce this at all and I suspect that it might be one or only a few modules that are not compatible with the new SWORD version. But I'm not sure about this.
When opening a new, empty workspace window in the latest version the number of installed modules should be displayed and a button to open the module installer.
But you are right, the module installer isn't at all intuitive. I'm thinking of changing it completely.
But I'd like to have the option to select more modules to install/remove/update. If the left sidebar is structured in installed/available/updateable modules the a simple checkbox can be used.


Please, please display a processing bar while indexing to give the user some clue of what’s going on and for how long.

I actually like the intermediate progress indicator which is shown but I understand that it might be better to show a real progress.


Switching the “search type” resets the search field.

Are you sure? It works here.


Links in search results don’t work.

Yes, they work but by default the verse is shown as preview or tooltip. You can right-click on the link to open it in a separate window/tab.


- “Cancel” button cannot be accessed via esc key.
- Full Screen mode cannot be escaped via esc key. Cmd+Tab don’t work either.

No, is esc default for cancel or return from full-screen?


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by transalpin at Aug 29, 2009 4:03:29 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Thank you for the quick response, sorry for the flood of requests.

- links as tooltip: sorry, right-clicking didn’t occur to me. Why not left?

- The search field behaviour is a little unintuitive, but maybe I just have to get used to it. New users will probably 1) enter a search term, 2) notice that they’re in the wrong search mode, 3) toggle, 4) re-enter the search term and hit enter/return.
I also found it annoying that when you switch back to the previous search mode, each of the open columns in the tab jumps back and loads previous search results.

- I guess, an indexing progress bar is less important if only one or two bibles are installed at a time. I had it coming with a total of more than 50 modules. The cool guys want ’em all. ;)

- Specify different fonts for different modules: any word on that? Hope that will make it into v.2.0.

Thanks a lot for listening!

Cheers,
Georg

PS, I experienced a kernel panic today which may or may not be related to MacSword.

Posted by chasm at Aug 29, 2009 7:45:38 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
@Manfred:

Didn't yet know about the automatic right-to-left on text for Hebrew and Aramaic, but I was asking simply about font alignment. As it is now, the font appears to always be aligned to the left side of the window. Having the option to make it center aligned or right aligned (like in a word processing document) may be helpful in some situations.




@Georg:

Go to Console in /Applications/Utilities and look for the PanicReporter (under /Library/Logs in the left sidebar). You might be able to figure out if MacSword caused the kernel panic. Alternatively, you can copy/paste into a PM to me and I can try to figure out if MacSword caused your kernel to panic. In the mean time, I suggest a good counselor could help your kernel not panic so much when around God's Word. :)
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Posted by Dale at Sep 3, 2009 4:37:36 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Manfred, is there a reason my single modules are no longer re-sizable? I keep several open and now they really overlap. Just happened the other day??

Dale
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Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 4, 2009 1:04:42 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Manfred, is there a reason my single modules are no longer re-sizable? I keep several open and now they really overlap. Just happened the other day??

No, all windows should still be resizable but I reduced the minimum size to not have components overlap within the windows.
Is it that what you mean?


Manfred

Posted by Dale at Sep 4, 2009 5:32:14 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I used to be able to open 4 windows at a time and re-size them to fit within the screen but now I am unable to drag the corner to re-size the modules. Is this a Snow Leopard thing?

Dale

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Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 4, 2009 12:46:30 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi Dale.

Seems to be a bug. Might be that it comes with Snow Leopard but might also be that it was introduced in the last RC which kept the side bars at a stable width when resizing the window.
Have to try on a Leopard version to see whether this is a Snow Leopard thing.

For now, if the right side bar is visible you can resize the window. After that you can again hide the right side bar.

I'll try to put out a new RC on Sunday with a couple of fixes.

Manfred

Posted by Dale at Sep 4, 2009 4:15:56 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Thanks Manfred, you're doing an awesome thing here.

Dale
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Posted by TimVictor at Sep 5, 2009 10:06:04 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I've recently converted to Mac and moved over from e-Sword. I just wanted to say that MacSword V2 is looking outstanding so far.

Thanks for this outstanding product!

Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 7, 2009 1:16:27 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Just released a new rc with a couple of fixes.
Sorry chasm and transalpin. Some of your suggestions will have to wait.


Manfred

Posted by chasm at Sep 7, 2009 2:58:05 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
It's not like you have to put it in just because it was suggested. :)

Thanks for the update, I'll try it out right away.
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Posted by Dale at Sep 7, 2009 8:05:50 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hey Manfred,

Are the windows re-sizable, mine are still are frozen.

Dale
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Posted by transalpin at Sep 7, 2009 10:41:56 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Thanks, Manfred! Now, the Prefs window works as expected.
However, the font settings don’t. Once you’ve changed them, you have to restart the app before you can select a new font.
There seems to be another small issue with the font size menu which in some cases is not respected after launch until you reload the page.
Also, launching MacSword takes a while …

Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 7, 2009 11:38:57 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

Are the windows re-sizable, mine are still are frozen.

Should be resizable.
Are they not?

Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 7, 2009 11:43:27 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement

However, the font settings don’t. Once you’ve changed them, you have to restart the app before you can select a new font.

Somehow I can remember this bug. Thought it was fixed.
Actually I can change the font repeatedly.
What do you do to change the font?


There seems to be another small issue with the font size menu which in some cases is not respected after launch until you reload the page.

The font size might not be applied immediately but should be applied after clicking the refresh button the latest.


Also, launching MacSword takes a while …

Loading depends on how many open scriptures you have in your session as they get loaded on startup.
Or does it always take long, having scriptures open or not?

Manfred

Posted by transalpin at Sep 8, 2009 4:00:17 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I opened Luther in a new workspace, now I am completely unable to change the font at all. Strange.
1) open the prefs
2) click on the “display” tab
3) click on “font panel”
4) selecting/double clicking a font from the list doesn’t change the prefs.

Posted by Dale at Sep 8, 2009 6:02:30 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
This is what I'm getting,

Dale


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Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 8, 2009 9:04:19 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
This is what I'm getting,

Yeah, sorry.
I'll create an update immediately.


Manfred

UPDATE: update is online, please check with updater

Posted by Dale at Sep 8, 2009 12:53:58 PM
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Yea!!!

Thank You Sir!!

Dale
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Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 10, 2009 11:47:01 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
I opened Luther in a new workspace, now I am completely unable to change the font at all. Strange.
1) open the prefs
2) click on the “display” tab
3) click on “font panel”
4) selecting/double clicking a font from the list doesn’t change the prefs.

Yeah, that's strange.
Unfortunately I really can't reproduce this.
Normally just selecting (single click) the font name or size from the font panel should be enough to have it changed in the Preferences dialog.


Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 10, 2009 11:48:33 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
It's not like you have to put it in just because it was suggested. :)

I know but I don't want you disappointed if your suggestions which are now also on my list don't get implemented right away.


Manfred

Posted by chasm at Sep 11, 2009 12:52:22 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Rather than being disappointed when my suggestions aren't added, I will choose to be excited over anything that does get added. Deal? :)
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Posted by ia. at Sep 12, 2009 7:00:38 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hi! Been lurking and using Mac Sword II a bit. Loving it!

Why is it not on the front page though one wonders?

Anyway, I want to send you a donation. How do I do that?

Posted by chasm at Sep 13, 2009 3:34:09 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hey, I do have another list of nitpicks and bugs coming soon, but for now, something more immediate I'd thought you'd like to know first:

Whenever I select "Check for Updates", I get:



Turns out I need to upgrade to the version I already have? So I did, and it told me that again... silly
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Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 13, 2009 4:45:29 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hey, I do have another list of nitpicks and bugs coming soon, but for now, something more immediate I'd thought you'd like to know first:

Whenever I select "Check for Updates", I get:

Turns out I need to upgrade to the version I already have? So I did, and it told me that again... silly

Yeah, there's a problem.
I guess it is because only the build number changed but not the version.
That might have confused the updater.
The only suggestion I have for now is: you don't need to install the version you already have. :)

Manfred

Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 13, 2009 4:49:31 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Why is it not on the front page though one wonders?

It is not yet final and we are working on a MacSword web page revamp.


Anyway, I want to send you a donation. How do I do that?

Thank you very much for your offer.
Please read our FAQ for donations:
http://www.crosswire.org/index.jsp?section=FAQ


Regards,
Manfred

Posted by chasm at Sep 13, 2009 7:56:44 PM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Hehe, of course I'm not going to keep reinstalling a version I already have... I just did it once to verify the updater was indeed messed up. And, I needed an excuse to use that smiley. :)

Oddly though, the build number of the app in the trash displayed as 246, not 247, even though I clearly was using 247. silly (Yay, I can use that smiley again!)
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Posted by chasm at Nov 21, 2009 12:37:56 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
Well, I'm not as active beta testing this as I was before, but it seems not everyone was anyway. Granted, having 2 different Mac beta games and a beta iPhone app to test, as well as school takes up my time. However, thanks to the Bible class I'm taking, I had time to try out the new update:

- The margins finally work. That was a welcome fix. :)

- I noticed you also made a few slight changes to the interface, with the Book/Chapter nav buttons. Pretty good, now I'd love to see some more stuff loaded into the sidebars. Maybe even put the search field and Lookup Mode toggle there, too. Granted, I'm practically suggesting that the app could look more and more like that mockup I put in the last page, but that's just because I really think it would make the app so much nicer interface-wise.

-I'd love to see some improvements to the full-screen interface. The top bar could go away all together (or simply autohide), and its options could be tossed into a contextual menu accessed by Right-Click. The left and right sidebars would autohide in the sides of the screen, and controls for next chapter/book could appear in a hovering controller like Quick Look in Finder.

-Would you be open to a "low-light" feature, or making it possible via a setting to switch the display of text to white text on a black background? Much better for reading at night, as I've discovered from my Bible ap[ on my iPod Touch.
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Posted by SodiumPowered at Dec 1, 2009 7:41:31 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
One bug I've seen so far (and I'm sorry if this has been addressed, I haven't had time to read the whole thread):

After doing a text search (in this case, KJV), it returned one verse. The verse reference is blue and apparently hyperlinked, but clicking on it does nothing. The cursor changes to a little pointing hand icon, but nothing happens when I click.

I have version 2.0.6-289.

Posted by mdbergmann at Dec 1, 2009 8:08:58 AM
Re: MacSword 2 beta announcement
One bug I've seen so far (and I'm sorry if this has been addressed, I haven't had time to read the whole thread):

After doing a text search (in this case, KJV), it returned one verse. The verse reference is blue and apparently hyperlinked, but clicking on it does nothing. The cursor changes to a little pointing hand icon, but nothing happens when I click.

I have version 2.0.6-289.

Left-click will display the same verse in the preview panel.
Right-click->"Open link" should open a new tab.


Manfred