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Posted by mdbergmann at Sep 19, 2011 1:30:28 PM
Re: New Name Voting
Absolutely. I'll end the name vote herewith and make preparations for the rename.


Manfred

Posted by lightman at Sep 20, 2011 7:59:07 AM
Re: New Name Voting
I think a new vote with iSword and Biblia is a rich idea.

Posted by Osk at Sep 21, 2011 6:23:54 AM
Re: New Name Voting
It seems like my warning against choosing "Biblia" is going ignored. I need to very seriously warn you against using "Biblia" as a name for Bible software.

Manfred, as you have observed, Logos has a registered trademark on "Biblia.com". Trademarks protect companies with particular marks (e.g. words/names, illustrations, and phrases) from attempts by 3rd parties to use identical or similar marks within the same trade. Logos is very obviously within the same trade, and is even within the same very narrowly described "Bible software" trade.

I don't see how there could be any question that changing the name of Eloquent to Biblia would constitute trademark infringement, and willful infringement at that, since you're aware of Logos' trademark. Were they to choose to do so, Logos would have an easy time of compelling you to change the name yet again to something else (and could also certainly seek monetary damages and/or attorney's fees).

Ignoring trademarks altogether, what is the benefit of using a name that is already in use for a different product? People searching for your software will likely go to Biblia.com instead. There would be no hope of ever getting the domain name Biblia.com. It's doubtful your website would be one of the top results for a google search soon, if ever.

Posted by JohanMarais at Sep 21, 2011 7:40:06 AM
Re: New Name Voting
MyScriptures +2

Posted by niccarter at Sep 22, 2011 3:46:46 AM
Re: New Name Voting
Taking on what Osk has said, and others about Biblica Phanera being too long, I suggest starting over and looking for names without the "My" or "i" prefix. As a Mac user for over 10 years now, I am at the point where if I see an app with the prefix "i" and it's not made by Apple, I don't even give it a go, assuming it's just trying to jump on the bandwagon and has had very little thought go into it. As we all know, MacSword/Eloquent has been around for yonks and has had a lot of time and thought go into it, so it doesn't fit into that type of app! So, I would suggest sticking away from using that suffix.

I would hold to apps having the "My" prefix as being in the same boat. That's just my thoughts, but I'm struggling to recall of any *quality* OS X apps out there that start with the "i" that aren't made by Apple. (actually, looking at all the user-installed apps I have on my Mac, 4 of the 120 of them start with "i" and I don't use any of them, having simply installed them for interest a long time ago.)

I hope that helps?
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Posted by revision29 at Sep 22, 2011 7:03:35 AM
Re: New Name Voting
What was wrong with MacSword?

Posted by cottager at Sep 22, 2011 5:32:15 PM
Re: New Name Voting
too bad Biblia is used. So forgive me but I'll brainstorm more:

Biblux (lux="light")

Scriptorum

Codex (book)


Thank you for working on this great software!

Posted by JonGl at Sep 22, 2011 10:45:04 PM
Re: New Name Voting
What was wrong with MacSword?


apps with "Mac" as part of the name aren't allowed on the Mac App Store. It seems they can say "for Mac", but not like with MacSword, have it integrated. So, if we want the app on the Mac Store, the name has to go.

That said, is the license for the MAS compatible with the OpenSource license of the Sword Project? I know there have been some rumblings about PocketSword (and they seem to be compatible), but I don't have the expertise to know...

-Jon

Posted by ghoussney at Sep 22, 2011 11:52:49 PM
Re: New Name Voting
iSword is my choice.

Posted by niccarter at Sep 23, 2011 5:46:58 AM
Re: New Name Voting
That said, is the license for the MAS compatible with the OpenSource license of the Sword Project? I know there have been some rumblings about PocketSword (and they seem to be compatible), but I don't have the expertise to know...
-Jon

Besides RMS, I believe the rest of the world is generally happy with GPL and the Apple App Stores. ;)
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